Re: [HACKERS] How can we expand PostgreSQL ecosystem?

2016-03-07 Thread Tsunakawa, Takayuki
Hello, Josh, > From: pgsql-hackers-ow...@postgresql.org > [mailto:pgsql-hackers-ow...@postgresql.org] On Behalf Of Josh berkus> > Crossing this over to pgsql-advocacy list where it really belongs. > That's what that list is *for*. > > Especially since the discussion on -hackers has focused on

Re: [HACKERS] How can we expand PostgreSQL ecosystem?

2016-03-07 Thread Craig Ringer
On 7 March 2016 at 20:55, MauMau wrote: > From: Craig Ringer > -- > We could help ORMs solve the N+1 SELECTs problem and help them avoid > transferring vast join projections unnecessarily. That'd make PostgreSQL > pretty

Re: [HACKERS] How can we expand PostgreSQL ecosystem?

2016-03-07 Thread Michael Paquier
On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 9:25 PM, Craig Ringer wrote: > pg_rewind will help a lot there if it proves robust enough - FWIW, some of my colleagues are doing a lot of QE/QA on a HA solution based on pg_rewind, and it is proving to be quite stable for the moment, they are having a hard time breaking it

Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] How can we expand PostgreSQL ecosystem?

2016-03-07 Thread Adrian Klaver
On 03/07/2016 01:37 PM, Josh berkus wrote: > MauMau, > > Crossing this over to pgsql-advocacy list where it really belongs. > That's what that list is *for*. > > Especially since the discussion on -hackers has focused on new > PostgreSQL Features, which while also good don't address the general

Re: [HACKERS] How can we expand PostgreSQL ecosystem?

2016-03-07 Thread Josh berkus
MauMau, Crossing this over to pgsql-advocacy list where it really belongs. That's what that list is *for*. Especially since the discussion on -hackers has focused on new PostgreSQL Features, which while also good don't address the general question. On 03/05/2016 09:29 PM, MauMau wrote: > Hello,

Re: [HACKERS] How can we expand PostgreSQL ecosystem?

2016-03-07 Thread Álvaro Hernández Tortosa
On 07/03/16 11:54, José Luis Tallón wrote: On 03/07/2016 07:30 AM, Tsunakawa, Takayuki wrote: From: pgsql-hackers-ow...@postgresql.org [mailto:pgsql-hackers-ow...@postgresql.org] On Behalf Of Mark Kirkwood For cloud - in particular Openstack (which I am working with ATM), the biggest thing

Re: [HACKERS] How can we expand PostgreSQL ecosystem?

2016-03-07 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On 03/07/2016 11:31 AM, MauMau wrote: Why don't we enrich the catalog? I'd like to hear ideas on how to enrich the catalog efficiently. It's ideal for software vendors and users to voluntarily add to the catalog. I think the product/software directory has vastly outlived its purpose. We

Re: [HACKERS] How can we expand PostgreSQL ecosystem?

2016-03-07 Thread MauMau
From: Craig Ringer -- * Make a directory of software/services that can be used with PostgreSQL on the community web site (wiki.postgresql.org or www.postgresql.org). Software/services vendors and PostgreSQL developers/users can edit this

Re: [HACKERS] How can we expand PostgreSQL ecosystem?

2016-03-07 Thread Tatsuo Ishii
> The killer there was that the plugin could only alter queries used by > Wordpress core. Nobody just uses Wordpress core. The whole reason > Wordpress became popular is the vast collection of plugins, themes, etc. > 90% of which are written by three stoned monkeys who once saw a PHP 4 > manual

Re: [HACKERS] How can we expand PostgreSQL ecosystem?

2016-03-07 Thread MauMau
From: Craig Ringer -- We could help ORMs solve the N+1 SELECTs problem and help them avoid transferring vast join projections unnecessarily. That'd make PostgreSQL pretty compelling for exactly the users we're mostly too busy dismissing to

Re: [HACKERS] How can we expand PostgreSQL ecosystem?

2016-03-07 Thread Craig Ringer
On 6 March 2016 at 13:46, Mark Kirkwood wrote: > > For cloud - in particular Openstack (which I am working with ATM), the > biggest thing would be: > > - multi-master replication > Working on it ;) > or failing that: > > - self managing single master failover

Re: [HACKERS] How can we expand PostgreSQL ecosystem?

2016-03-07 Thread Craig Ringer
On 7 March 2016 at 17:06, Tatsuo Ishii wrote: > > * Only 24 open source projects are listed as interoperable. > > Open Source Projects Using PostgreSQL > > https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/OpenSource_Projects_Using_PostgreSQL > > It's pity that some very popular OSS

Re: [HACKERS] How can we expand PostgreSQL ecosystem?

2016-03-07 Thread José Luis Tallón
On 03/07/2016 07:30 AM, Tsunakawa, Takayuki wrote: From: pgsql-hackers-ow...@postgresql.org [mailto:pgsql-hackers-ow...@postgresql.org] On Behalf Of Mark Kirkwood For cloud - in particular Openstack (which I am working with ATM), the biggest thing would be: - multi-master replication or

Re: [HACKERS] How can we expand PostgreSQL ecosystem?

2016-03-07 Thread Tatsuo Ishii
> * Only 24 open source projects are listed as interoperable. > Open Source Projects Using PostgreSQL > https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/OpenSource_Projects_Using_PostgreSQL It's pity that some very popular OSS projects do not care about PostgreSQL. WordPress is one of such OSS projects. Long

Re: [HACKERS] How can we expand PostgreSQL ecosystem?

2016-03-06 Thread Tsunakawa, Takayuki
> From: pgsql-hackers-ow...@postgresql.org > [mailto:pgsql-hackers-ow...@postgresql.org] On Behalf Of Mark Kirkwood > For cloud - in particular Openstack (which I am working with ATM), the > biggest thing would be: > > - multi-master replication > > or failing that: > > - self managing single

Re: [HACKERS] How can we expand PostgreSQL ecosystem?

2016-03-05 Thread Craig Ringer
On 6 March 2016 at 13:29, MauMau wrote: > However, there is a problem. The number of software is very small that > the users can know to interoperate with PostgreSQL. > Yep, even among many big and popular OSS apps. > Many applications might be interoperable through

Re: [HACKERS] How can we expand PostgreSQL ecosystem?

2016-03-05 Thread Mark Kirkwood
On 06/03/16 18:29, MauMau wrote: > As I said in the previous greeting mail, I'd like to discuss how to > expand PostgreSQL ecosystem. Here, ecosystem means "interoperability" > -- the software products and cloud services which use/support > PostgreSQL. If pgsql-advocacy or somewhere else is

[HACKERS] How can we expand PostgreSQL ecosystem?

2016-03-05 Thread MauMau
Hello, As I said in the previous greeting mail, I'd like to discuss how to expand PostgreSQL ecosystem. Here, ecosystem means "interoperability" -- the software products and cloud services which use/support PostgreSQL. If pgsql-advocacy or somewhere else is better for this topic, just tell