Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-06-23 Thread Tomas Vondra
On 15.5.2014 00:41, Tomas Vondra wrote: > On 13.5.2014 20:42, Tomas Vondra wrote: >> On 10.5.2014 20:21, Tomas Vondra wrote: >>> On 9.5.2014 00:47, Tomas Vondra wrote: >>> >>> And I've requested 6 more animals - two for each compiler. One set for >>> tests with basic CLOBBER, one set for recursive

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-25 Thread Andres Freund
On 2014-05-25 16:58:39 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > Andres Freund writes: > > On 2014-05-25 01:02:25 +0200, Tomas Vondra wrote: > >> The cache invalidation bug was apparently fixed, but we're still getting > >> failures (see for example markhor): > >> http://www.pgbuildfarm.org/cgi-bin/show_history.pl

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-25 Thread Andres Freund
On 2014-05-25 16:58:39 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > Andres Freund writes: > > On 2014-05-25 01:02:25 +0200, Tomas Vondra wrote: > >> The cache invalidation bug was apparently fixed, but we're still getting > >> failures (see for example markhor): > >> http://www.pgbuildfarm.org/cgi-bin/show_history.pl

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-25 Thread Tom Lane
Andres Freund writes: > On 2014-05-25 01:02:25 +0200, Tomas Vondra wrote: >> The cache invalidation bug was apparently fixed, but we're still getting >> failures (see for example markhor): >> http://www.pgbuildfarm.org/cgi-bin/show_history.pl?nm=markhor&br=HEAD >> I see there's a transaction (COMM

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-25 Thread Andres Freund
On 2014-05-25 01:02:25 +0200, Tomas Vondra wrote: > On 14.5.2014 15:17, Andres Freund wrote: > The cache invalidation bug was apparently fixed, but we're still getting > failures (see for example markhor): > > http://www.pgbuildfarm.org/cgi-bin/show_history.pl?nm=markhor&br=HEAD > > I see there's

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-24 Thread Tomas Vondra
On 14.5.2014 15:17, Andres Freund wrote: > On 2014-05-14 15:08:08 +0200, Tomas Vondra wrote: >> On 14 Květen 2014, 13:51, Andres Freund wrote: >>> On 2014-05-13 20:42:16 +0200, Tomas Vondra wrote: Can someone please approve the animals I've requested a few days ago? I'm already running th

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-14 Thread Tomas Vondra
On 13.5.2014 20:42, Tomas Vondra wrote: > On 10.5.2014 20:21, Tomas Vondra wrote: >> On 9.5.2014 00:47, Tomas Vondra wrote: >> >> And I've requested 6 more animals - two for each compiler. One set for >> tests with basic CLOBBER, one set for recursive CLOBBER. > > Can someone please approve the an

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-14 Thread Andres Freund
On 2014-05-14 15:08:08 +0200, Tomas Vondra wrote: > On 14 Květen 2014, 13:51, Andres Freund wrote: > > On 2014-05-13 20:42:16 +0200, Tomas Vondra wrote: > >> Can someone please approve the animals I've requested a few days ago? > >> I'm already running the clobber tests with '--nosend --nostatus' a

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-14 Thread Tomas Vondra
On 14 Květen 2014, 13:51, Andres Freund wrote: > On 2014-05-13 20:42:16 +0200, Tomas Vondra wrote: >> Can someone please approve the animals I've requested a few days ago? >> I'm already running the clobber tests with '--nosend --nostatus' and >> it's already reporting some errors. Would be nice to

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-14 Thread Andres Freund
On 2014-05-13 20:42:16 +0200, Tomas Vondra wrote: > Can someone please approve the animals I've requested a few days ago? > I'm already running the clobber tests with '--nosend --nostatus' and > it's already reporting some errors. Would be nice to get it to the > buildfarm. Can you provide some de

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-13 Thread Tomas Vondra
On 10.5.2014 20:21, Tomas Vondra wrote: > On 9.5.2014 00:47, Tomas Vondra wrote: > >> So, if I get this right, the proposal is to have 7 animals: >> >> >> 1) all branches/locales, frequent builds (every few hours) >> magpie - gcc >> fulmar - icc >> treepie - clang >> >> 2) single branch/loc

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-10 Thread Tomas Vondra
On 9.5.2014 00:47, Tomas Vondra wrote: > On 8.5.2014 23:48, Andrew Dunstan wrote: >> >> On 05/08/2014 05:21 PM, Alvaro Herrera wrote: >>> Andrew Dunstan wrote: >>> I really don't get what your objection to the setup is. And no, I don't want them to run concurrently, I'd rather spread out

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-09 Thread Tomas Vondra
On 9.5.2014 00:47, Tomas Vondra wrote: > On 8.5.2014 23:48, Andrew Dunstan wrote: >> >> On 05/08/2014 05:21 PM, Alvaro Herrera wrote: >>> Andrew Dunstan wrote: >>> I really don't get what your objection to the setup is. And no, I don't want them to run concurrently, I'd rather spread out

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-09 Thread Tomas Vondra
On 9.5.2014 20:09, Andrew Dunstan wrote: > > I've done that a bit in the past. At one stage all my Windows animals > were some sort of bat. There's nothing magical about the names. It's > just a text field and can be whatever we like. I initially started with > animals because it seemed like a cat

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-09 Thread Tomas Vondra
On 9.5.2014 17:18, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > Tomas Vondra wrote: > >> So, if I get this right, the proposal is to have 7 animals: > > It's your machine, so you decide what you want. I'm only throwing > out some ideas. > >> 1) all branches/locales, frequent builds (every few hours) magpie >> - gcc

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-09 Thread Andrew Dunstan
On 05/09/2014 11:25 AM, Robert Haas wrote: On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Alvaro Herrera wrote: I guess it depends how likely we think that a different compiler will change the behavior of the shared invalidation queue. Somebody else would have to answer that. If not, then clearly we need

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-09 Thread Robert Haas
On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > Robert Haas wrote: >> On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Alvaro Herrera >> wrote: >> > I guess it depends how likely we think that a different compiler will >> > change the behavior of the shared invalidation queue. Somebody else >> > would

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-09 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Robert Haas wrote: > On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Alvaro Herrera > wrote: > > I guess it depends how likely we think that a different compiler will > > change the behavior of the shared invalidation queue. Somebody else > > would have to answer that. If not, then clearly we need only 5 anima

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-09 Thread Robert Haas
On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > I guess it depends how likely we think that a different compiler will > change the behavior of the shared invalidation queue. Somebody else > would have to answer that. If not, then clearly we need only 5 animals. This may be heresy, but

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-09 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Tomas Vondra wrote: > So, if I get this right, the proposal is to have 7 animals: It's your machine, so you decide what you want. I'm only throwing out some ideas. > 1) all branches/locales, frequent builds (every few hours) > magpie - gcc > fulmar - icc > treepie - clang > > 2) single

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-08 Thread Tomas Vondra
On 8.5.2014 23:48, Andrew Dunstan wrote: > > On 05/08/2014 05:21 PM, Alvaro Herrera wrote: >> Andrew Dunstan wrote: >> >>> I really don't get what your objection to the setup is. And no, I >>> don't want them to run concurrently, I'd rather spread out the >>> cycles. >> I wasn't objecting, merely

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-08 Thread Andrew Dunstan
On 05/08/2014 05:21 PM, Alvaro Herrera wrote: Andrew Dunstan wrote: I really don't get what your objection to the setup is. And no, I don't want them to run concurrently, I'd rather spread out the cycles. I wasn't objecting, merely an observation. Note that Tomas mentioned he's okay with run

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-08 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Andrew Dunstan wrote: > I really don't get what your objection to the setup is. And no, I > don't want them to run concurrently, I'd rather spread out the > cycles. I wasn't objecting, merely an observation. Note that Tomas mentioned he's okay with running 4 builds at once. My main point here,

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-08 Thread Andrew Dunstan
On 05/08/2014 04:54 PM, Andrew Dunstan wrote: Why? This was actually discussed when I set this up and Tom opined that a once a day run with CLOBBER_CACHE_ALWAYS was plenty. It takes about 4 /12 hours. The rest of the time nightjar runs. friarbird runs a bit after midnight US East Coast tim

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-08 Thread Andrew Dunstan
On 05/08/2014 04:09 PM, Alvaro Herrera wrote: Andrew Dunstan wrote: Here is what I do on my FreeBSD VM. I have 2 animals, nightjar and friarbird. They have the same buildroot. friarbird is set up to build with CLOBBER_CACHE_ALWAYS, building just HEAD and just testing C locale; nightjar builds

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-08 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Andrew Dunstan wrote: > Here is what I do on my FreeBSD VM. I have 2 animals, nightjar and > friarbird. They have the same buildroot. friarbird is set up to > build with CLOBBER_CACHE_ALWAYS, building just HEAD and just testing > C locale; nightjar builds all branches we are interested in and > te

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-08 Thread Andrew Dunstan
On 05/08/2014 12:21 PM, Tomas Vondra wrote: On 6.5.2014 23:01, Tomas Vondra wrote: On 6.5.2014 22:24, Tom Lane wrote: Tomas Vondra writes: I recall there was a call for more animals with CLOBBER_CACHE_ALWAYS some time ago, so I went and enabled that on all three animals. Let's see how long

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-08 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Tomas Vondra wrote: > H, with CLOBBER_CACHE_ALWAYS + CLOBBER_FREED_MEMORY the tests take > ~20h on a single branch/animal. With a single locale (e.g. "C") it would > take ~4h, but we're testing a bunch of additional czech/slovak locales. > > The tests are running in sequence (magpie->treepie-

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-08 Thread Tomas Vondra
On 6.5.2014 23:01, Tomas Vondra wrote: > On 6.5.2014 22:24, Tom Lane wrote: >> Tomas Vondra writes: >>> I recall there was a call for more animals with CLOBBER_CACHE_ALWAYS >>> some time ago, so I went and enabled that on all three animals. Let's >>> see how long that will take. >> >>> I see there

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-06 Thread Tomas Vondra
On 6.5.2014 22:24, Tom Lane wrote: > Tomas Vondra writes: >> I recall there was a call for more animals with CLOBBER_CACHE_ALWAYS >> some time ago, so I went and enabled that on all three animals. Let's >> see how long that will take. > >> I see there are more 'clobber' options in the code: CLOBB

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-06 Thread Tom Lane
Tomas Vondra writes: > I recall there was a call for more animals with CLOBBER_CACHE_ALWAYS > some time ago, so I went and enabled that on all three animals. Let's > see how long that will take. > I see there are more 'clobber' options in the code: CLOBBER_FREED_MEMORY > and CLOBBER_CACHE_RECURSI

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-06 Thread Tomas Vondra
On 4.5.2014 21:29, Tomas Vondra wrote: > On 3.5.2014 19:01, Andrew Dunstan wrote: >> >> On 05/03/2014 12:42 PM, Tomas Vondra wrote: >>> On 3.5.2014 03:07, Noah Misch wrote: More coverage of non-gcc compilers would be an asset to the buildfarm. >>> Does that include non-gcc compilers on Linux/x

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-06 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Andres Freund wrote: > > > * sparc 32bit > > > > Do we really care about sparc 32bit at this point? You're talking a > > 10-year-old machine, there. > > I personally don't really, but the last time it came up significant > parts of community opinionated the other way. And I'd rather have it > t

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-05 Thread Andres Freund
Hi, On 2014-05-04 12:35:44 -0700, Josh Berkus wrote: > > There's pretty little coverage of non mainstream platforms/compilers in > > the buildfarm atm. Maybe we should send an email on -announce asking for > > new ones? > > There's no coverage for OS-wise; > > * AIX (at all) > > * HP-UX (for maste

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-05 Thread Michael Paquier
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Heikki Linnakangas wrote: > On 05/04/2014 11:13 PM, Magnus Hagander wrote: >> >> On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 9:35 PM, Josh Berkus wrote: >> Architecture wise there's no coverage for: * some ARM architecture varians >>> >>> >>> I could run a buildfarm animal on

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-04 Thread Heikki Linnakangas
On 05/04/2014 11:13 PM, Magnus Hagander wrote: On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 9:35 PM, Josh Berkus wrote: Architecture wise there's no coverage for: * some ARM architecture varians I could run a buildfarm animal on a Raspberry Pi if the Postgres community will replace my flash cards as they burn out

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-04 Thread Magnus Hagander
On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 9:35 PM, Josh Berkus wrote: > > Architecture wise there's no coverage for: > > * some ARM architecture varians > > I could run a buildfarm animal on a Raspberry Pi if the Postgres > community will replace my flash cards as they burn out. > Heikki already does that - it's c

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-04 Thread Josh Berkus
Andres, > There's pretty little coverage of non mainstream platforms/compilers in > the buildfarm atm. Maybe we should send an email on -announce asking for > new ones? > There's no coverage for OS-wise; > * AIX (at all) > * HP-UX (for master at least) > (* Tru64) > (* UnixWare) Do we want a Smar

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-04 Thread Tomas Vondra
On 3.5.2014 19:01, Andrew Dunstan wrote: > > On 05/03/2014 12:42 PM, Tomas Vondra wrote: >> On 3.5.2014 03:07, Noah Misch wrote: >>> More coverage of non-gcc compilers would be an asset to the buildfarm. >> Does that include non-gcc compilers on Linux/x86 platforms? >> >> Magpie is pretty much ded

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-03 Thread Andrew Dunstan
On 05/03/2014 12:42 PM, Tomas Vondra wrote: On 3.5.2014 03:07, Noah Misch wrote: More coverage of non-gcc compilers would be an asset to the buildfarm. Does that include non-gcc compilers on Linux/x86 platforms? Magpie is pretty much dedicated to the buildfarm, and it's pretty much doing noth

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-03 Thread Tom Lane
Tomas Vondra writes: > Magpie is pretty much dedicated to the buildfarm, and it's pretty much > doing nothing most of the time, so running the tests with other > compilers (llvm/ic/...) would be just fine. Not sure how to do that, > though. Should I run the tests with multiple configurations, or

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-03 Thread Tomas Vondra
On 3.5.2014 03:07, Noah Misch wrote: > More coverage of non-gcc compilers would be an asset to the buildfarm. Does that include non-gcc compilers on Linux/x86 platforms? Magpie is pretty much dedicated to the buildfarm, and it's pretty much doing nothing most of the time, so running the tests wit

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-03 Thread Noah Misch
On Sat, May 03, 2014 at 10:09:56AM +0200, Andres Freund wrote: > On 2014-05-02 21:07:55 -0400, Noah Misch wrote: > > +1 for sending a call for help to -announce. I agree with your importance > > estimates, particularly on the OS side. -1 for making code-level changes to > > "desupport" a platform

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-03 Thread Bernd Helmle
It's a POWER 7 machine. On 3. Mai 2014 10:31:34 MESZ, Dave Page wrote: >Hamid@EDB; Can you please have someone configure anole to build git >head as well as the other branches? Thanks. > >Andres, Andrew; I think the only other gap EDB could fill at the >moment is RHEL6 on Power7 (though we do ha

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-03 Thread Dave Page
Hamid@EDB; Can you please have someone configure anole to build git head as well as the other branches? Thanks. Andres, Andrew; I think the only other gap EDB could fill at the moment is RHEL6 on Power7 (though we do have a couple of Power8 boxes on order that should be here pretty soon). Dotterel

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-03 Thread Andres Freund
On 2014-05-02 21:07:55 -0400, Noah Misch wrote: > On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 05:04:01PM +0200, Andres Freund wrote: > > There's pretty little coverage of non mainstream platforms/compilers in > > the buildfarm atm. Maybe we should send an email on -announce asking for > > new ones? > > There's no cove

Re: [HACKERS] Sending out a request for more buildfarm animals?

2014-05-02 Thread Noah Misch
On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 05:04:01PM +0200, Andres Freund wrote: > There's pretty little coverage of non mainstream platforms/compilers in > the buildfarm atm. Maybe we should send an email on -announce asking for > new ones? > There's no coverage for OS-wise; > * AIX (at all) > * HP-UX (for master a