Re: [Pharo-dev] strange error in latest 3.0 -

2014-01-28 Thread Nicolai Hess
2014-01-27 Martin Dias tinchod...@gmail.com On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 7:10 AM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: I opened an issue: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12731/Traits-modifications-cause-a-DNU I marked it as a show stopper because right now you cannot load a package with

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoLauncher as the default Pharo download on pharo.org?

2014-01-28 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Bestlem wrote I think this is a misreading of Apple's directory design. It is for more than preferences and caches but for all app-specific files No, it is not. Library is meant for shared libraries, like vm plugins, and preferences and caches. Nothing more. Apple is changing this with the app

[Pharo-dev] A doodle for finding good sprint dates for Lille

2014-01-28 Thread Marcus Denker
We need to find good dates for Friday Sprints... the idea is that we will try do small ones every Friday, and once a month a larger one. (In addtion, we need to check to do hangouts again…) I make this public so that if someone wants to come to lille, add the time you could make it.. we then

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoLauncher as the default Pharo download on pharo.org?

2014-01-28 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
Now, everyone can make his own luncher, right? ;) Uko On 28 Jan 2014, at 12:32, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl wrote: Bestlem wrote I think this is a misreading of Apple's directory design. It is for more than preferences and caches but for all app-specific files No, it is not.

Re: [Pharo-dev] strange error in latest 3.0 -

2014-01-28 Thread Martin Dias
So, what to do? - Don't send ClassModifiedClassDefinition in SystemAnnouncertraitDefinitionChangedFrom: oldTrait to: newTrait ? - Implement Traitlayout ? - Test for oldClassDefinition isTrait in ClassModifiedClassDefinitionisPropagating ? I discussed with Camille and we think it's

Re: [Pharo-dev] strange error in latest 3.0 -

2014-01-28 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
yes, please :) On 28 Jan 2014, at 13:47, Martin Dias tinchod...@gmail.com wrote: So, what to do? - Don't send ClassModifiedClassDefinition in SystemAnnouncertraitDefinitionChangedFrom: oldTrait to: newTrait ? - Implement Traitlayout ? - Test for oldClassDefinition isTrait in

Re: [Pharo-dev] strange error in latest 3.0 -

2014-01-28 Thread Tudor Girba
Yes, please! Doru On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.comwrote: yes, please :) On 28 Jan 2014, at 13:47, Martin Dias tinchod...@gmail.com wrote: So, what to do? - Don't send ClassModifiedClassDefinition in SystemAnnouncertraitDefinitionChangedFrom:

Re: [Pharo-dev] strange error in latest 3.0 -

2014-01-28 Thread Martin Dias
hhahah, ok, I'm on it On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Yes, please! Doru On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.comwrote: yes, please :) On 28 Jan 2014, at 13:47, Martin Dias tinchod...@gmail.com wrote: So, what to

Re: [Pharo-dev] strange error in latest 3.0 -

2014-01-28 Thread Tudor Girba
Thank you! I can review it tomorrow morning. Doru On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Martin Dias tinchod...@gmail.com wrote: hhahah, ok, I'm on it On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Yes, please! Doru On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Esteban

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] PharoLauncher as the default Pharo download on pharo.org?

2014-01-28 Thread Sebastian Sastre
On Jan 27, 2014, at 3:00 PM, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com wrote: maybe the launcher can be location agnostic and remember somewhere the locations of the lasts images that where opened with it and simply offer links to open the ones at the lasts, say 7 images, paths. You will even

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] d96ff4: 30727

2014-01-28 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/3.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: d96ff4ca59742c351acb38c77a90d71545ac5698 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/d96ff4ca59742c351acb38c77a90d71545ac5698 Author: Jenkins Build Server bo...@pharo-project.org Date:

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2014-01-28 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/30727 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] PharoLauncher as the default Pharo download on pharo.org?

2014-01-28 Thread Damien Cassou
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote: Therefore, my suggestion is to keep it location agnostic I still don't get it. Do you suggest that the launcher should always ask the user where to put new images? -- Damien Cassou

Re: [Pharo-dev] strange error in latest 3.0 -

2014-01-28 Thread Martin Dias
Done. https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12731/Traits-modifications-cause-a-DNU On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Thank you! I can review it tomorrow morning. Doru On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Martin Dias tinchod...@gmail.com wrote: hhahah, ok,

Re: [Pharo-dev] strange error in latest 3.0 -

2014-01-28 Thread Benjamin
It’s a duplicate of a closed issue (recently integrated by Sven) We should maybe join forces :) Ben On 28 Jan 2014, at 12:41, Martin Dias tinchod...@gmail.com wrote: Done. https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12731/Traits-modifications-cause-a-DNU On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Tudor

[Pharo-dev] Where to report bugs?

2014-01-28 Thread Noury Bouraqadi
Hi, I tried fogbugz but I failed to connect... Is there another place. I wanted to report that changes after a fileIn in Pharo 3.0 seem to be buggy. Class definitions (do it) are ignored and methods are recorded twice. I tried on the latest 30727. Noury Ecole des Mines de Douai

Re: [Pharo-dev] strange error in latest 3.0 -

2014-01-28 Thread Tudor Girba
Could you be more specific? Which issue? Doru On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: It's a duplicate of a closed issue (recently integrated by Sven) We should maybe join forces :) Ben On 28 Jan 2014, at 12:41, Martin Dias

Re: [Pharo-dev] strange error in latest 3.0 -

2014-01-28 Thread Tudor Girba
Thanks, Martin. I will look tomorrow morning. Doru On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 4:41 PM, Martin Dias tinchod...@gmail.com wrote: Done. https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12731/Traits-modifications-cause-a-DNU On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Thank

Re: [Pharo-dev] Where to report bugs?

2014-01-28 Thread Marcus Denker
On 28 Jan 2014, at 16:54, Noury Bouraqadi bouraq...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I tried fogbugz but I failed to connect... Is there another place. No. Fogbugz it is. Marcus

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] PharoLauncher as the default Pharo download on pharo.org?

2014-01-28 Thread Sebastian Sastre
On Jan 28, 2014, at 12:21 PM, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com wrote:Therefore, my suggestion is to keep it location agnosticI still don't get it. Do you suggest that the launcher should alwaysask the user where to put new images?Here is an idea:you can count the clicks and the cases it’d

Re: [Pharo-dev] Issues 12717 and 12684

2014-01-28 Thread Pharo4Stef
Ben I still think that it would have been good to discuss the valueHolder changes in Spec before doing it. Because it broke the tools of people that used Spec like martin and clement as well as the documentation ignaccio wrote. We should be cautious about other people too. Stef On 27 Jan

Re: [Pharo-dev] Issues 12717 and 12684

2014-01-28 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 28 Jan 2014, at 00:57, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: Yes, I just tested: UserManager instVarNamed: 'default' put: nil. UserManager initialize. fixes the release tests. in 30 728 I have to go to bed though ;-) Thx! Sven On 28 Jan 2014, at 00:54, Benjamin

Re: [Pharo-dev] process to collaborate on cleaning morphic

2014-01-28 Thread Pharo4Stef
Sean this is years since I clean Morphic (may be I’m that good at it) but this is important to go step by step. So I would really like to get a list of simple actions. Do you have an idea? For example I have remove extract update conditional leaves into method, remove

Re: [Pharo-dev] Issues 12717 and 12684

2014-01-28 Thread Pharo4Stef
I do not know if I publish it somewhere but when I try to make UserManager I added reset on the class side to avoid such code. Stef On 28 Jan 2014, at 00:57, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: Yes, I just tested: UserManager instVarNamed: 'default' put: nil. UserManager

Re: [Pharo-dev] Issues 12717 and 12684

2014-01-28 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 28 Jan 2014, at 18:47, Pharo4Stef pharo4s...@free.fr wrote: I do not know if I publish it somewhere but when I try to make UserManager I added reset on the class side to avoid such code. Yes that would be better, but it is not in the image as far as I can see... Stef On 28 Jan 2014,

Re: [Pharo-dev] Issues 12717 and 12684

2014-01-28 Thread Pharo4Stef
On 28 Jan 2014, at 13:53, Pharo4Stef pharo4s...@free.fr wrote: Ben I still think that it would have been good to discuss the valueHolder changes in Spec before doing it. This has been discussed for 2-3 days before I made it actually. Where? because I do not talk about just the

Re: [Pharo-dev] strange error in latest 3.0 -

2014-01-28 Thread Pharo4Stef
may be in addition we could add layout returning a default value. Stef On 28 Jan 2014, at 13:47, Martin Dias tinchod...@gmail.com wrote: So, what to do? - Don't send ClassModifiedClassDefinition in SystemAnnouncertraitDefinitionChangedFrom: oldTrait to: newTrait ? - Implement Traitlayout

[Pharo-dev] Platform OS event code

2014-01-28 Thread Pharo4Stef
Hi ronie where can we find the event code that you develop with igor ? Tx Stef

Re: [Pharo-dev] Platform OS event code

2014-01-28 Thread Ronie Salgado
Hi Stef, The code we developed is not completely committed into my SmalltalkHub repository, specifically the changes to Morphic. The VM changes, have all been committed into my github repository at: https://github.com/ronsaldo/pharo-vm/ The API, except for the integration with Morphic are in my

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Life, Ukraine, Developers

2014-01-28 Thread Pharo4Stef
Thanks for sharing it Stef On 27 Jan 2014, at 18:25, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: http://www.slideshare.net/NazarBartosik/what-is-really-happening-in-ukraine Pretty scary. On 22 Jan 2014, at 19:06, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com wrote: My dear Pharo friends, I have

Re: [Pharo-dev] iPad version does not work ?

2014-01-28 Thread Pharo4Stef
jannik the latest vm is not on gitoruous anymore but git On 27 Jan 2014, at 22:03, jannik laval jannik.la...@gmail.com wrote: Hum, have I the correct repository ? I used this one: https://git.gitorious.org/cogvm/cog-osx.git But, I just saw that this one exists:

Re: [Pharo-dev] Platform OS event code

2014-01-28 Thread Pharo4Stef
On 28 Jan 2014, at 20:27, Ronie Salgado ronies...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Stef, The code we developed is not completely committed into my SmalltalkHub repository, specifically the changes to Morphic. could you commit them so that we can have a look at the event hierarchy? Do you have a

[Pharo-dev] packages in 3.0

2014-01-28 Thread Norbert Hartl
I have a project that defines a package Project-Core then I added some more like Project-Core-Exception Project-Core-Command … but those do not appear in the monticello package. Is it supposed to be that way from 3.0 on or is this a bug? Norbert

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Life, Ukraine, Developers

2014-01-28 Thread Sebastian Sastre
Ukraine Prime Minister Azarov resigns http://rt.com/news/ukrainian-minister-azarov-resigns-286/ Ukraine crisis: Parliament abolishes anti-protest law http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25923199 On Jan 28, 2014, at 5:57 PM, Pharo4Stef pharo4s...@free.fr wrote: Thanks for sharing it

Re: [Pharo-dev] packages in 3.0

2014-01-28 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
they do not appear because they shouldn’t :) MCPackage = RPackage in 3.0 that means that you need 3 mc packages… or 1 r packages + 2 tags btw… there are still some glitches with that that need to be fixed. Please report if/when you find them :) Esteban On 28 Jan 2014, at 22:29, Norbert Hartl

Re: [Pharo-dev] iPad version does not work ?

2014-01-28 Thread jannik.laval
Thank you, I am trying the latest one. When compiling for IOS, I have an error in sqSCCSVersion.h #include vmVersionInfo.h // defines REVISION_STRING the file is not found. Anyone knows where is this file ? Cheers, Jannik On Jan 28, 2014, at 8:58 PM, Pharo4Stef pharo4s...@free.fr wrote:

Re: [Pharo-dev] packages in 3.0

2014-01-28 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 28.01.2014 um 22:50 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com: they do not appear because they shouldn’t :) MCPackage = RPackage in 3.0 Ah, very good. I see this of course shortly after I applied ones again stupid package names to be able to separate tests. that means that you

Re: [Pharo-dev] iPad version does not work ?

2014-01-28 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
because you are not following the instructions ;) basically… you can generate them by: build$ ../scripts/extract-commit-info.sh Esteban On 28 Jan 2014, at 23:15, jannik.laval jannik.la...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you, I am trying the latest one. When compiling for IOS, I have an error in

Re: [Pharo-dev] packages in 3.0

2014-01-28 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On 28 Jan 2014, at 23:34, Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name wrote: Am 28.01.2014 um 22:50 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com: they do not appear because they shouldn’t :) MCPackage = RPackage in 3.0 Ah, very good. I see this of course shortly after I applied ones again

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Life, Ukraine, Developers

2014-01-28 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
Pay attention, this is not a lot. As someone said: “Let’s accept new laws, fuck up a lot of people and then if something goes wrong we will roll the laws back. And people will salute us with applauds”. Then abolished 7 of 9 monstrous laws and accepted some 4 new ones. And in fact nothing else

Re: [Pharo-dev] Issues 12717 and 12684

2014-01-28 Thread Nicolai Hess
2014-01-28 Pharo4Stef pharo4s...@free.fr On 28 Jan 2014, at 13:53, Pharo4Stef pharo4s...@free.fr wrote: Ben I still think that it would have been good to discuss the valueHolder changes in Spec before doing it. This has been discussed for 2-3 days before I made it actually. Where?

[Pharo-dev] No more MouseWheelEvents?

2014-01-28 Thread Nicolai Hess
How it comes we lost the MouseWheelEvents. The SimpleHierarchicalListMorph in FileList does not scroll on MouseWheelEvents. Or at least it worked that way in Pharo2. But now the MouseWheel creates a keyboardevent Ctrl-. (Other ListMorphs can handle this, but the ListMorph in FileList can not.)

Re: [Pharo-dev] iPad version does not work ?

2014-01-28 Thread Eliot Miranda
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.comwrote: because you are not following the instructions ;) basically... you can generate them by: build$ ../scripts/extract-commit-info.sh I asked for this info last week ;-). Thanks! But this is alarming:

Re: [Pharo-dev] iPad version does not work ?

2014-01-28 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On 29 Jan 2014, at 00:18, Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: because you are not following the instructions ;) basically… you can generate them by: build$ ../scripts/extract-commit-info.sh

[Pharo-dev] [Review]: Case 12737 Morph sends mouseUp twice to handlers

2014-01-28 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?12737 DoIt: Morph new on: #mouseUp send: #inspect to: 1; openInWorld. Two inspectors will appear. Fix in inbox: SLICE-Issue-12737-Morph-sends-mouseUp-twice-to-handlers-SeanDeNigris.1 Please review. It definitely fixes the problem, but it

Re: [Pharo-dev] Issues 12717 and 12684

2014-01-28 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Nicolai Hess wrote And I don't like the name either. I would prefere Binding or ValueBinding. Guys, I don't love the name either, but can we do a little better than I don't like it. The purpose of ValueHolder's existence was to notify changes to its value. A reactive variable, from FRP,

Re: [Pharo-dev] iPad version does not work ?

2014-01-28 Thread jannik laval
Hi Esteban, Hum, this means that my instructions are outdated. Where are the right instructions ? The ones on Github do not mention IOS. Cheers, Jannik 2014-01-29 Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com On 29 Jan 2014, at 00:18, Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan