Re: [Pharo-dev] Old Pharo Mac VM on pharo.org

2015-03-24 Thread Ben Coman
Is pharo-minimal going to be an artefact of the Release? Should it be temporarily sacrificed to allow a more recent VM to go out with the Release? If its too close to Release to change the VM, then perhaps the current release date could be a Release Candidate including a new VM, kept for maybe a

Re: [Pharo-dev] Morphs becoming unresponsive

2015-03-24 Thread Alain Plantec via Pharo-dev
---BeginMessage--- Hello Henrik, I read windowEvent: anEvent WorldState quitSession. self removeProperty: #closeWorldDialogOpen ] but shouldn't it be windowEvent: anEvent WorldState quitSession. self removeProperty: #canOpenCloseDialog

Re: [Pharo-dev] Update question

2015-03-24 Thread Serge Stinckwich
Don't update use PharoLauncher instead ! I use PharoLauncher everyday for my work and I download new images every 2-3 days. Sent from my iPhone On 24 mars 2015, at 11:13, Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name wrote: Today I wanted (again) to update my image and it can't find GT packages. So

[Pharo-dev] Google Code Shutdown

2015-03-24 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
In case anyone hasn't heard, Google Code will shut down entirely on January 25, 2016. I was following these Smalltalk projects there: magritte-metamodel moose-technology seaside marsonpharo nativeboost metacello squeaksource3 phratch - already on GitHub per Jannik The easiest action seems to be

[Pharo-dev] Some Memory Leak

2015-03-24 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Hi, There seems to be some kind of memory leak in recent Pharo 4.0 images. Image size (as saved on disk) seems to be growing very rapidly under normal use (development with Nautilus, Spotter, GTPlayground, GTInspector and Monticello, debugging). Numbers go from the initial 20Mb to 100s of Mb

Re: [Pharo-dev] Which one to use? [WAS: Re: GLMBrick whats next?]

2015-03-24 Thread Thierry Goubier
2015-03-24 15:16 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com: On 24 Mar 2015, at 14:29, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: There is a big diffirence between Morphic and the other. Morphic is a full solution and mature one as well. The others , with the exception of Bloc , try to

Re: [Pharo-dev] Which one to use? [WAS: Re: GLMBrick whats next?]

2015-03-24 Thread Alain Plantec via Pharo-dev
---BeginMessage--- Hello Esteban, Most probably is because you are doing double work: you draw with Athens, but you convert it to a Form to display it (and a Form is a Morph using DisplayPlugin). I can ensure you that if you use Athens directly with SDL2 (an example I can share with you

Re: [Pharo-dev] Which one to use? [WAS: Re: GLMBrick whats next?]

2015-03-24 Thread Alain Plantec via Pharo-dev
---BeginMessage--- Hello Thierry, Le 24 mars 2015 à 15:24, Thierry Goubier thierry.goub...@gmail.com a écrit : One of the problem is that the Morphic replacement will probably be less than Morphic was (or was intended to be) :( why do you think so ? Cheers Alain You'll probably tell

Re: [Pharo-dev] GLMBrick whats next?

2015-03-24 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On 24 Mar 2015, at 12:37, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Hi Nicolai, I am surprised by your conclusion that the current Brick implementation disqualifies it from being part of the Core :) it was not that what disqualifies it. It is the “we will not announce it” part :) I mean:

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2015-03-24 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/40580 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

[Pharo-dev] StringhowManyMatch: Bug or feature ?

2015-03-24 Thread Noury Bouraqadi
Hi, The normal behavior 'abc' howManyMatch: 'abd' -- 2. I got suprized the way Blanks and new lines are handled. '\**' withCRs howManyMatch: '\\**' withCRs. -- 2 instead of 1 'ab\ **' withCRs howManyMatch: 'ab\\**' withCRs. -- 4 instead of 3 '\ **' withCRs howManyMatch: '\\**' withCRs. -- 3

Re: [Pharo-dev] GLMBrick whats next?

2015-03-24 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, I think I might have misunderstood your mail :). Tthe intention behind Brick is not to be a separate framework but an internal tool for GT. At least not now, and at least not before we investigate how we get to the end goal of having a vectorial canvas (hence Bloc). Is this satisfying?

Re: [Pharo-dev] Update question

2015-03-24 Thread Torsten Bergmann
@Norbert: I also use PharoLauncher, this way I can download clean 3.0/4.0 or prepackaged (Moose, Boostrap) images at own will, clone, copy as I like and with a fresh image it is easy to see if code is loading cleanly, ... I have to give up nothing. I can still profit from image

Re: [Pharo-dev] Which one to use? [WAS: Re: GLMBrick whats next?]

2015-03-24 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On 24 Mar 2015, at 14:29, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: There is a big diffirence between Morphic and the other. Morphic is a full solution and mature one as well. The others , with the exception of Bloc , try to wrap things up or offering better solution to some areas. The

Re: [Pharo-dev] Which one to use? [WAS: Re: GLMBrick whats next?]

2015-03-24 Thread kilon alios
There is a big diffirence between Morphic and the other. Morphic is a full solution and mature one as well. The others , with the exception of Bloc , try to wrap things up or offering better solution to some areas. The one thing I don't understand is why improving Morphic or even redesigning it

Re: [Pharo-dev] Update question

2015-03-24 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
kilon.alios wrote I tried it a few times, and had nothing but problems with it. We have discussed here several times and from what I have learned there several technical limitation. I initially had a bad experience as well. I probably didn't give it a fair trial, but also IIRC at that time the

Re: [Pharo-dev] Slots and MethodWrappers

2015-03-24 Thread Johan Fabry
I would say that they are different although related. Slots are for the interception of accessing instance variables (for read and write), and method wrappers for the interception of accessing methods (for execution). On Mar 24, 2015, at 09:02, p...@highoctane.be wrote: I wondered how

[Pharo-dev] Which one to use? [WAS: Re: GLMBrick whats next?]

2015-03-24 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
And well… I think Nicolai is right in a point (not the fault of Brick, btw): current status is far from ideal: - we have Morphic, and it’s upcoming replace, Brick (but Brick is not in the image, so the pain there is less) - we have Spec to support our tooling. - we have Glamour to support…

Re: [Pharo-dev] Which one to use? [WAS: Re: GLMBrick whats next?]

2015-03-24 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On 24 Mar 2015, at 14:23, Thierry Goubier thierry.goub...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Esteban, 2015-03-24 13:56 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com mailto:esteba...@gmail.com: And well… I think Nicolai is right in a point (not the fault of Brick, btw): current status is far from

Re: [Pharo-dev] Which one to use? [WAS: Re: GLMBrick whats next?]

2015-03-24 Thread Thierry Goubier
Hi Esteban, 2015-03-24 13:56 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com: And well... I think Nicolai is right in a point (not the fault of Brick, btw): current status is far from ideal: - we have Morphic, and it's upcoming replace, Brick (but Brick is not in the image, so the pain

Re: [Pharo-dev] GLMBrick whats next?

2015-03-24 Thread Tudor Girba
There is only one talk about Bloc. The rest is like a sprint. Doru On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: Tudor Girba-2 wrote Concretely, on March 31 and April 1 (no joke :)), we have a session in Bern where Alain Plantec will join us to look into

Re: [Pharo-dev] GLMBrick whats next?

2015-03-24 Thread Alain Plantec via Pharo-dev
---BeginMessage--- Hello Sean, As I’ve already said, I’m currently working on a documentation on Bloc. I’ve stopped adding new things into it (well only examples and bug fixes) It is far from being finished and polished https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/PharoInProgress/tree/master/Bloc

Re: [Pharo-dev] GLMBrick whats next?

2015-03-24 Thread Nicolai Hess
2015-03-24 12:37 GMT+01:00 Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com: Hi Nicolai, I am surprised by your conclusion that the current Brick implementation disqualifies it from being part of the Core :) not the implementation, the uncertainty of its purpose - a GT private implementation / a public

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 79e66b: 40580

2015-03-24 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/4.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 79e66b97d7783fe020fc952f5f5e797f3b0f3a72 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/79e66b97d7783fe020fc952f5f5e797f3b0f3a72 Author: Jenkins Build Server bo...@pharo-project.org Date:

Re: [Pharo-dev] GLMBrick whats next?

2015-03-24 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Tudor Girba-2 wrote Concretely, on March 31 and April 1 (no joke :)), we have a session in Bern where Alain Plantec will join us to look into how to approach this problem concretely. Given that, now I /really/ feel it would be beneficial to have the talks recorded because otherwise you

[Pharo-dev] Slots and MethodWrappers

2015-03-24 Thread p...@highoctane.be
I wondered how these two things are related. Will slots be giving MWs facilities out of the box? When should I use both? Phil

Re: [Pharo-dev] Update question

2015-03-24 Thread kilon alios
I tried it a few times, and had nothing but problems with it. We have discussed here several times and from what I have learned there several technical limitation. I am using pharolauncher non stop and wonder why Pharolauncher is not integrated inside Pharo yet. I have added my code inside the

[Pharo-dev] Update question

2015-03-24 Thread Norbert Hartl
Today I wanted (again) to update my image and it can't find GT packages. So I'm interested how the community deals with that. Do you take fresh downloaded images regularly? Or you do not update? Is it just me? thanks, Norbert

Re: [Pharo-dev] Update question

2015-03-24 Thread Peter Uhnák
I didn't even know there was an update option. Instead I download fresh images (regularly) through Pharo Launcher, plus I have startup script that looks at the name of the image and does extra stuff — e.g. if the image name contains MyProjectX, it automatically adds repositories for it and loads

Re: [Pharo-dev] GLMBrick whats next?

2015-03-24 Thread Nicolai Hess
2015-03-23 20:54 GMT+01:00 Aliaksei Syrel alex.sy...@gmail.com: Hi, Sorry if my reply will be too long, but I tried to summarise our experience with Morphic/Brick and give some useful feedback or even provide ideas. Who wants will read :) Hi, thank you, this is a really great source of

Re: [Pharo-dev] Update question

2015-03-24 Thread Norbert Hartl
What would be better using PharoLauncher? Norbert Am 24.03.2015 um 12:30 schrieb Serge Stinckwich serge.stinckw...@gmail.com: Don't update use PharoLauncher instead ! I use PharoLauncher everyday for my work and I download new images every 2-3 days. Sent from my iPhone On 24 mars

Re: [Pharo-dev] Update question

2015-03-24 Thread Thierry Goubier
2015-03-24 11:13 GMT+01:00 Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name: Today I wanted (again) to update my image and it can't find GT packages. So I'm interested how the community deals with that. Do you take fresh downloaded images regularly? Or you do not update? Is it just me? I don't update. I

[Pharo-dev] Populating/editing list with modal dialogs in Glamour

2015-03-24 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
Hi everyone, I’m playing with glamour, and I’m trying to construct a list that can be edited e.g. you can add items, edit them and remove and for adding and editing you have a custom popup written again in glamour. So first question is how can I dead with basic actions? Is the

Re: [Pharo-dev] Update question

2015-03-24 Thread Serge Stinckwich
PharoLauncher manage all your images and dl new images directly from the CI server. PharoLauncher is written in Pharo and can be adapted to your own needs ;-) Sent from my iPhone On 24 mars 2015, at 12:38, Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name wrote: What would be better using PharoLauncher?

Re: [Pharo-dev] Update question

2015-03-24 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
NorbertHartl wrote What would be better using PharoLauncher? I was a hold out, but I've finally started using it and it's really nice. For things that don't have an automated build process, it's much better than downloading from file.pharo.org by hand. You can set the folder to which the images

Re: [Pharo-dev] Morphs becoming unresponsive

2015-03-24 Thread Henrik Johansen
On 24 Mar 2015, at 11:22 , Alain Plantec via Pharo-dev pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org wrote: Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] Morphs becoming unresponsive From: Alain Plantec alain.plan...@yahoo.com Date: 24 Mar 2015 11:21:55 CET To: Pharo Development List pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org Hello

Re: [Pharo-dev] GLMBrick whats next?

2015-03-24 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi Nicolai, I am surprised by your conclusion that the current Brick implementation disqualifies it from being part of the Core :) Let's recap. Brick was created to support GT. We wanted GT in the image, hence Brick is in the image as part of Glamour. In the meantime, Brick has grown and it's

Re: [Pharo-dev] Existing script example pragmas and new GT needs

2015-03-24 Thread Nicolai Hess
2015-03-24 22:48 GMT+01:00 Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com: Hi Torsten, Thanks for the long email. The first part summarizes the situation reasonably well, except that you are putting the same pot example annotated methods and methods having example* selectors. To try to clear the water I

Re: [Pharo-dev] Existing script example pragmas and new GT needs

2015-03-24 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi Torsten, Thanks for the long email. The first part summarizes the situation reasonably well, except that you are putting the same pot example annotated methods and methods having example* selectors. To try to clear the water I thought I would answer with an almost equally long email :). I am

Re: [Pharo-dev] Which one to use? [WAS: Re: GLMBrick whats next?]

2015-03-24 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Yes, we do not have the replacement now, but we have never had so much investment and will around the UI as we have now. We do not know at this point what is the better way, we do not know the exact roadmap because it is more than just a matter of implementation. But, I know that the kinds

Re: [Pharo-dev] Which one to use? [WAS: Re: GLMBrick whats next?]

2015-03-24 Thread kilon alios
Tudor , I am only amazed how much you guys accomplish with so limited resources. I may not agree with some of the choices but I am very happy with the progress Pharo is making and glad I stick around. If the community is not ready for a roadmap , so be it. You will be ready when you will be

Re: [Pharo-dev] Which one to use? [WAS: Re: GLMBrick whats next?]

2015-03-24 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
I have to confess I did not understand this obsession of implementing everything in Pharo when I joined coming from python. But now I find this obsession too infectious to resist :) That's why its impossible to convert people via HN and Reddit. Like skydiving (I imagine), it seems like a

Re: [Pharo-dev] Existing script example pragmas and new GT needs

2015-03-24 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 12:17 AM, Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de wrote: 2015-03-24 22:48 GMT+01:00 Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com: Hi Torsten, Thanks for the long email. The first part summarizes the situation reasonably well, except that you are putting the same pot example

Re: [Pharo-dev] Which one to use? [WAS: Re: GLMBrick whats next?]

2015-03-24 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi Kilon, The situation is like this. For quite a while we did not have enough expertise in this community to build serious UI frameworks that can work. In the meantime we learnt a lot. GT is not just a couple of windows. It's an experiment of building something that does not exist anywhere else,

Re: [Pharo-dev] Some Memory Leak

2015-03-24 Thread Tudor Girba
Yes, there are clearly objects lying around. I suspect it has to do with Playground or Inspector, but I am not sure. Doru On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 Mar 2015, at 15:18, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: Hi, There seems to be

Re: [Pharo-dev] Some Memory Leak

2015-03-24 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 24 Mar 2015, at 16:50, Andrei Chis chisvasileand...@gmail.com wrote: There are lot of spotter objects that do not get garbaged collected GTSpotter allInstances size -- 29 in my image I got 10 now. But can they cause megabytes to be locked up ? On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Tudor

Re: [Pharo-dev] Which one to use? [WAS: Re: GLMBrick whats next?]

2015-03-24 Thread Thierry Goubier
2015-03-24 15:27 GMT+01:00 Alain Plantec via Pharo-dev pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org: -- Message transféré -- From: Alain Plantec alain.plan...@yahoo.com To: Pharo Development List pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org Cc: Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 15:27:18 +0100 Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev]

Re: [Pharo-dev] Update question

2015-03-24 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 24.03.2015 um 12:41 schrieb Serge Stinckwich serge.stinckw...@gmail.com: PharoLauncher manage all your images and dl new images directly from the CI server. PharoLauncher is written in Pharo and can be adapted to your own needs ;-) So there is nothing to gain. My use cases are

Re: [Pharo-dev] Which one to use? [WAS: Re: GLMBrick whats next?]

2015-03-24 Thread Thierry Goubier
Hi, 2015-03-24 15:27 GMT+01:00 Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com: Hi, I think I do not understand this point. Why do you say that the future solution will be less than Morphic? Because we're driving it with uses which are less than Morphic requirements were. Because you don't need Morphic

Re: [Pharo-dev] Slots and MethodWrappers

2015-03-24 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 24.03.2015 um 15:26 schrieb Johan Fabry jfa...@dcc.uchile.cl: I would say that they are different although related. Slots are for the interception of accessing instance variables (for read and write), and method wrappers for the interception of accessing methods (for execution). +1

Re: [Pharo-dev] Which one to use? [WAS: Re: GLMBrick whats next?]

2015-03-24 Thread Alain Plantec via Pharo-dev
---BeginMessage--- Le 24 mars 2015 à 15:56, Thierry Goubier thierry.goub...@gmail.com a écrit : 2015-03-24 15:39 GMT+01:00 Denis Kudriashov dionisi...@gmail.com mailto:dionisi...@gmail.com: 2015-03-24 17:36 GMT+03:00 Thierry Goubier thierry.goub...@gmail.com

Re: [Pharo-dev] Some Memory Leak

2015-03-24 Thread Andrei Chis
There are lot of spotter objects that do not get garbaged collected GTSpotter allInstances size -- 29 in my image On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Yes, there are clearly objects lying around. I suspect it has to do with Playground or Inspector, but I am

Re: [Pharo-dev] Which one to use? [WAS: Re: GLMBrick whats next?]

2015-03-24 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Thierry Goubier thierry.goub...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-03-24 15:16 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com: On 24 Mar 2015, at 14:29, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: There is a big diffirence between Morphic and the other. Morphic is a

Re: [Pharo-dev] Update question

2015-03-24 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 24.03.2015 um 13:02 schrieb Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com: NorbertHartl wrote What would be better using PharoLauncher? I was a hold out, but I've finally started using it and it's really nice. For things that don't have an automated build process, it's much better than

Re: [Pharo-dev] Which one to use? [WAS: Re: GLMBrick whats next?]

2015-03-24 Thread Thierry Goubier
2015-03-24 15:39 GMT+01:00 Denis Kudriashov dionisi...@gmail.com: 2015-03-24 17:36 GMT+03:00 Thierry Goubier thierry.goub...@gmail.com: IMHO, Rubrics, just from it's layout approach, is already a step backward. What you mean by this? What's wrong with Rubric layouting? Padding -

Re: [Pharo-dev] Some Memory Leak

2015-03-24 Thread Max Leske
On 24 Mar 2015, at 15:18, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: Hi, There seems to be some kind of memory leak in recent Pharo 4.0 images. Image size (as saved on disk) seems to be growing very rapidly under normal use (development with Nautilus, Spotter, GTPlayground, GTInspector

Re: [Pharo-dev] Some Memory Leak

2015-03-24 Thread Tudor Girba
I also tried this: 1. Create a dummy class: Object subclass: #AAA instanceVariableNames: 'x' classVariableNames: '' category: 'AAA'. 2. Open a Playground and do it and go on this: a := #AAA asClass new. 3. In the second pane go on self 4. Close the Playground 5. Execute: 3 timesRepeat: [

Re: [Pharo-dev] Which one to use? [WAS: Re: GLMBrick whats next?]

2015-03-24 Thread Thierry Goubier
2015-03-24 16:43 GMT+01:00 Aliaksei Syrel alex.sy...@gmail.com: The same in Brick: GLMButtonBrick new marginLeft: 10; text: 'Parse'; vAlign: #center; hSpaceFill; openInBrickWindow Yes, I agree - using composition for margin/padding/aligning is much more simple, readable,

Re: [Pharo-dev] Which one to use? [WAS: Re: GLMBrick whats next?]

2015-03-24 Thread Alain Plantec via Pharo-dev
---BeginMessage--- Hello all, I think you should consider what is mature and what is in the image now. now we have Spec with Morphic, Morphic without Spec as an alternative, GT Tool framework (with Brick), Glamour. Regarding text editing we have Rubric. My fault, someone (sorry I don’t

Re: [Pharo-dev] GLMBrick whats next?

2015-03-24 Thread Nicolai Hess
2015-03-24 13:54 GMT+01:00 Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com: Hi, I think I might have misunderstood your mail :). Tthe intention behind Brick is not to be a separate framework but an internal tool for GT. At least not now, and at least not before we investigate how we get to the end goal

Re: [Pharo-dev] Update question

2015-03-24 Thread Ben Coman
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 9:19 PM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: kilon.alios wrote I tried it a few times, and had nothing but problems with it. We have discussed here several times and from what I have learned there several technical limitation. I don't think Kilon was

Re: [Pharo-dev] Populating/editing list with modal dialogs in Glamour

2015-03-24 Thread Andrei Chis
Hi, GLMActionListPresentation is currently the only mechanism to have a separate list of actions as buttons. However, usually when working with lists we add actions directly in the toolbar of the presentation. There is no default way of opening a pop-up. However, it shouldn't be so difficult to

Re: [Pharo-dev] Which one to use? [WAS: Re: GLMBrick whats next?]

2015-03-24 Thread Thierry Goubier
2015-03-24 16:03 GMT+01:00 Alain Plantec via Pharo-dev pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org: -- Message transféré -- From: Alain Plantec alain.plan...@yahoo.com To: Pharo Development List pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org Cc: Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 16:02:56 +0100 Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev]

[Pharo-dev] collecting Pharo 4.0 Contributors

2015-03-24 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
Hi, I’m collection the list of contributors for this version. Since we detect contributors by author stamps: - some times who made the commit does not reflect all the people who worked on a problem, - we consider contributors to Pharo all people who has contributed in any way: discussing

Re: [Pharo-dev] Which one to use? [WAS: Re: GLMBrick whats next?]

2015-03-24 Thread Denis Kudriashov
2015-03-24 17:36 GMT+03:00 Thierry Goubier thierry.goub...@gmail.com: IMHO, Rubrics, just from it's layout approach, is already a step backward. What you mean by this? What's wrong with Rubric layouting?

Re: [Pharo-dev] Which one to use? [WAS: Re: GLMBrick whats next?]

2015-03-24 Thread Johan Fabry
On Mar 24, 2015, at 10:29, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: [Spec] does not support custom made GUIs which is what I want That’s simply not true. Spec supports the embedding of whatever Morph you want inside your GUI. So you can easily mix and match your custom components with all

Re: [Pharo-dev] StringhowManyMatch: Bug or feature ?

2015-03-24 Thread Nicolas Cellier
2015-03-24 13:53 GMT+01:00 Noury Bouraqadi bouraq...@gmail.com: Hi, The normal behavior 'abc' howManyMatch: 'abd' -- 2. I got suprized the way Blanks and new lines are handled. '\**' withCRs howManyMatch: '\\**' withCRs. -- 2 instead of 1 'ab\ **' withCRs howManyMatch: 'ab\\**' withCRs.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Some Memory Leak

2015-03-24 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 24 Mar 2015, at 16:13, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 Mar 2015, at 15:18, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: Hi, There seems to be some kind of memory leak in recent Pharo 4.0 images. Image size (as saved on disk) seems to be growing very rapidly under normal

Re: [Pharo-dev] Which one to use? [WAS: Re: GLMBrick whats next?]

2015-03-24 Thread Aliaksei Syrel
The same in Brick: GLMButtonBrick new marginLeft: 10; text: 'Parse'; vAlign: #center; hSpaceFill; openInBrickWindow Yes, I agree - using composition for margin/padding/aligning is much more simple, readable, fast and maintainable, than horrible scripting in brick, sorry for that.

[Pharo-dev] Latest VM doesn't have Wheel changes

2015-03-24 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
I see them in the source zip right alongside the app on Jenkins, and the changes worked as expected on my Mac when I built by hand. I even kicked off another build, but #419 didn't seem to have the changes either... - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context:

Re: [Pharo-dev] Which one to use? [WAS: Re: GLMBrick whats next?]

2015-03-24 Thread Ben Coman
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:08 AM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: I have to confess I did not understand this obsession of implementing everything in Pharo when I joined coming from python. But now I find this obsession too infectious to resist :) That's why its impossible to

Re: [Pharo-dev] Google Code Shutdown

2015-03-24 Thread kilon alios
Another project abandoned by Google, what a surprise :D On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: In case anyone hasn't heard, Google Code will shut down entirely on January 25, 2016. I was following these Smalltalk projects there: magritte-metamodel

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 059630: 40581

2015-03-24 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/4.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 0596306550830ead2c3aaa348df345230b5c3240 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/0596306550830ead2c3aaa348df345230b5c3240 Author: Jenkins Build Server bo...@pharo-project.org Date:

[Pharo-dev] Glamour List Presentation get selection index

2015-03-24 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
Hi, is it possible, to get selection index from GLMListPresentation? Cheers Uko

Re: [Pharo-dev] Which one to use? [WAS: Re: GLMBrick whats next?]

2015-03-24 Thread kilon alios
if you read my mail, you will notice that I said BOTH are on the table (and we are actually moving oon both): - Bloc is the redesign - In the mean time we WORK and ENCOURAGE others to work on improve it. Last time I asked about Bloc , I was told not to use it and instead stick with Spec or

Re: [Pharo-dev] Update question

2015-03-24 Thread kilon alios
@Kilon: Integrating PharoLauncher in the standard image would not make sense. Then I use PharoLauncher to download an image with a prepackaged PharoLauncher, ... If you mean that it should be the default tool to download when getting Pharo 4.0 or Pharo 3.0 from the download page or from

Re: [Pharo-dev] Some Memory Leak

2015-03-24 Thread Max Leske
On 24 Mar 2015, at 16:56, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 24 Mar 2015, at 16:50, Andrei Chis chisvasileand...@gmail.com wrote: There are lot of spotter objects that do not get garbaged collected GTSpotter allInstances size -- 29 in my image I got 10 now. But can

Re: [Pharo-dev] Slots and MethodWrappers

2015-03-24 Thread Marcus Denker
On 24 Mar 2015, at 13:02, p...@highoctane.be wrote: I wondered how these two things are related. Will slots be giving MWs facilities out of the box? When should I use both? Hello, Slots are about state (instance variables), while method wrappers are about methods (and hooking into

Re: [Pharo-dev] collecting Pharo 4.0 Contributors

2015-03-24 Thread kilon alios
I am Dimitris Chloupis, always a honor to contribute to such an awesome project like Pharo. I have not contributed bug fixes but I have contributed with a lot of documentation by porting 5 chapters of PBE to Pharo 3 and many video tutorials. You cant be a dead language and still the king of live

[Pharo-dev] Existing script example pragmas and new GT needs

2015-03-24 Thread Torsten Bergmann
Hi Tudor and all, to understand the issue one has to know: -- There are two pragmas in Pharo 4 that were already introduced and integrated: script / script: - one can use this to mark methods (of any

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2015-03-24 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/40579 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 0368f1: 40579

2015-03-24 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/4.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 0368f11bb36e30240a81bb6091d34a44f29fcd29 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/0368f11bb36e30240a81bb6091d34a44f29fcd29 Author: Jenkins Build Server bo...@pharo-project.org Date:

Re: [Pharo-dev] choose event in Bern on March 31: alain plantec on Bloc + working session on Pharo IDE

2015-03-24 Thread Tudor Girba
Unlikely. Doru On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 5:05 AM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras vonbecm...@gmail.com wrote: fingers crossed. On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 10:33 PM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: Will the talks be recorded? p.s. please, please, please ;) - Cheers,

Re: [Pharo-dev] Glamour List Presentation get selection index

2015-03-24 Thread Andrei Chis
Hi, No. Currently from a GLMListPresentation you can just get the selected element. Cheers, Andrei On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 7:40 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com wrote: Hi, is it possible, to get selection index from GLMListPresentation? Cheers Uko

Re: [Pharo-dev] Some Memory Leak

2015-03-24 Thread Andrei Chis
Hi Henry, Thanks for the feedback. Don't stop :) In this case I think the memory lead comes from the class variables of GLMHintableActionButtonBrick. Clearing them up removes all instances of playground and spotter from my image. We need to find a better design for that. Cheers, Andrei On

Re: [Pharo-dev] Which one to use? [WAS: Re: GLMBrick whats next?]

2015-03-24 Thread Alain Plantec via Pharo-dev
---BeginMessage--- I don’t get it sorry. Padding by ten pixels to the left: | leftMargin aParserButton | leftMargin := Morph new width: 10; hResizing: #shrinkWrap; vResizing: #spaceFill. aParserButton :=

Re: [Pharo-dev] Update question

2015-03-24 Thread Marcus Denker
On 24 Mar 2015, at 11:13, Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name wrote: Today I wanted (again) to update my image and it can't find GT packages. So I'm interested how the community deals with that. Do you take fresh downloaded images regularly? Or you do not update? Is it just me? We should

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] 203 issues tagged tagged for Pharo4

2015-03-24 Thread Marcus Denker
33. And there are some already fixed, waiting to be reviewed. On 22 Mar 2015, at 19:29, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: 44! On 20 Mar 2015, at 20:17, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: 52. Much better! some are even already fixed (but not integrated) so we will

Re: [Pharo-dev] Update question

2015-03-24 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 24.03.2015 um 18:45 schrieb Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr: On 24 Mar 2015, at 11:13, Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name wrote: Today I wanted (again) to update my image and it can't find GT packages. So I'm interested how the community deals with that. Do you take fresh

Re: [Pharo-dev] Some Memory Leak

2015-03-24 Thread Andrei Chis
If somebody has a larger image can he/she load the latest version of Glamour-Morphic-Brick and then run [1] plus a few garbage collects. [1] Smalltalk cleanUp: true except: #() confirming: false. Cheers, Andrei On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2015-03-24 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/40581 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

[Pharo-dev] Making Seaside work in Pharo 4

2015-03-24 Thread Stephan Eggermont
In Issue 13739, build 40145 classesInTheSelectedPackage in Nautilus was removed. What is the correct way to replace it? WABrowser uses a nautilus browser to show a web-based browser. (build 609, Seaside #'release3.1' pharo4, from ci) WABrowserTesttestContentsNotifying | model |