Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus questions

2015-08-22 Thread Ben Coman
On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 12:19 AM, Peter Uhnák i.uh...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 4:58 PM, Thierry Goubier thierry.goub...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-08-19 16:46 GMT+02:00 Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com: kilon.alios wrote I have to confess I was never and probably will

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus questions

2015-08-21 Thread Peter Uhnák
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 4:58 PM, Thierry Goubier thierry.goub...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-08-19 16:46 GMT+02:00 Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com: kilon.alios wrote I have to confess I was never and probably will never be a fan of the system browser I agree. It was probably

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus questions

2015-08-20 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On 19 Aug 2015, at 20:26, Dimitris Chloupis kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 5:51 PM Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com mailto:s...@clipperadams.com wrote: kilon.alios wrote For example, let's say your project has a class that implements a

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus questions

2015-08-20 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Le 20 août 2015 09:15, stepharo steph...@free.fr a écrit : For example why protocol get the same space than method. We could split the protocol by half and use the space for soemthing useful. Protocol names can be long... I would like the coding area to expand a bit when a method is too

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus questions

2015-08-20 Thread Franck Warlouzet
From: steph...@free.fr To: pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus questions Sorry but reading code is really important and now assistant is taking too much space. And your proposal does not take into account hierarchy and I use it all the time

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus questions

2015-08-20 Thread stepharo
. yes Franck Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 09:13:09 +0200 From: steph...@free.fr To: pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus questions Sorry but reading code is really important and now assistant is taking too

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus questions

2015-08-20 Thread stepharo
Le 20/8/15 11:08, Esteban Lorenzano a écrit : On 20 Aug 2015, at 09:14, stepharo steph...@free.fr mailto:steph...@free.fr wrote: For example why protocol get the same space than method. We could split the protocol by half and use the space for soemthing useful. I would like the coding

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus questions

2015-08-20 Thread stepharo
my “proposal” is just a fast sketch made to illustrate how I would like to show certain functionality, it does not take into account any other functionality… If I finish my browser proposal ever, it will have a lot more buttons in the toolbar :) about hierarchy I think it should spawn a

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus questions

2015-08-20 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On 20 Aug 2015, at 09:13, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: Sorry but reading code is really important and now assistant is taking too much space. for me code is as important as the other functionality. the size of the code area (and the default size of the browser) can be easily

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus questions

2015-08-20 Thread stepharo
Sorry but reading code is really important and now assistant is taking too much space. And your proposal does not take into account hierarchy and I use it all the time. The same way we use all the time variables. Stef Le 19/8/15 11:50, Esteban Lorenzano a écrit : On 19 Aug 2015, at 11:44,

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus questions

2015-08-20 Thread Thierry Goubier
2015-08-20 10:19 GMT+02:00 stepharo steph...@free.fr: Le 20 août 2015 09:15, stepharo steph...@free.fr a écrit : For example why protocol get the same space than method. We could split the protocol by half and use the space for soemthing useful. Protocol names can be long... yes

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus questions

2015-08-20 Thread Thierry Goubier
2015-08-20 11:53 GMT+02:00 stepharo steph...@free.fr: my “proposal” is just a fast sketch made to illustrate how I would like to show certain functionality, it does not take into account any other functionality… If I finish my browser proposal ever, it will have a lot more buttons in the

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus questions

2015-08-20 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Wow that pdf is very deep. Amazing abilities. Pity there is not much documentation and much exposure about these features. Thank you , I am studying it. On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 2:52 PM Thierry Goubier thierry.goub...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-08-20 11:51 GMT+02:00 Dimitris Chloupis

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus questions

2015-08-19 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
kilon.alios wrote I failed to see why its useful... is particularly useful for: a) applying refactors, b) search senders/implementors inside my project and not in all image. For example, let's say your project has a class that implements a generically-named method, like #asMorph. If you try

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus questions

2015-08-19 Thread Thierry Goubier
2015-08-19 16:46 GMT+02:00 Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com: kilon.alios wrote I failed to see why its useful... is particularly useful for: a) applying refactors, b) search senders/implementors inside my project and not in all image. For example, let's say your project has a

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus questions

2015-08-19 Thread Stephan Eggermont
On 19-08-15 11:20, Peter Uhnák wrote: This sounds like a neat idea (although I don't know if Moprhic understands hold button for X time). Take a look at how MouseClickState is used in HandMorphwaitForClicksOrDrag: aMorph event: evt selectors: clickAndDragSelectors threshold: threshold

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus questions

2015-08-19 Thread Stephan Eggermont
On 19-08-15 14:58, Ben Coman wrote: One thing that sometimes annoys me with current Nautilus, is that to view a class definition, I need to deselect the method and loose my context there. Tabs seem a great way to be able to flick back and forth without loosing context. Nice example. That is

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus questions

2015-08-19 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 5:51 PM Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: kilon.alios wrote For example, let's say your project has a class that implements a generically-named method, like #asMorph. If you try to rename that method via Refactoring, Pharo will try to rename all #asMorph

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus questions

2015-08-19 Thread Thierry Goubier
2015-08-19 11:59 GMT+02:00 Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com: On 19 Aug 2015, at 11:50, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: On 19 Aug 2015, at 11:44, Thierry Goubier thierry.goub...@gmail.com wrote: Screen Shot 2015-08-19 at 11.10.41.png … but arriving to it is not so easy.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus questions

2015-08-19 Thread Thierry Goubier
Hitting send too early :( 2015-08-19 11:59 GMT+02:00 Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com: On 19 Aug 2015, at 11:50, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: On 19 Aug 2015, at 11:44, Thierry Goubier thierry.goub...@gmail.com wrote: Screen Shot 2015-08-19 at 11.10.41.png … but

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus questions

2015-08-19 Thread Christophe Demarey
Le 19 août 2015 à 11:34, Peter Uhnák a écrit : Nos: - no, we are not going to put back buttons in the middle of the browser: what is a toolbar, should be where toolsbars go. I know many if you are used to the older way, but that older way was bad: the original idea was to put

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus questions

2015-08-19 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On 19 Aug 2015, at 11:44, Thierry Goubier thierry.goub...@gmail.com wrote: Screen Shot 2015-08-19 at 11.10.41.png … but arriving to it is not so easy. In conclusion: We are doing some right steps. It is not finished, but we are not going to go back to older way :) Hi Esteban,

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus questions

2015-08-19 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On 19 Aug 2015, at 11:50, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: On 19 Aug 2015, at 11:44, Thierry Goubier thierry.goub...@gmail.com mailto:thierry.goub...@gmail.com wrote: Screen Shot 2015-08-19 at 11.10.41.png … but arriving to it is not so easy. In conclusion: We are