Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: The PHP Platform

2002-04-13 Thread Dave Mertens
On Sat, Apr 13, 2002 at 12:40:49AM -, Jim Winstead wrote: > yes! the new build system that sascha introduced wasn't a move forward. > stig (and the large cast of others) working on building the pear > infrastructure aren't moving forward. rasmus is standing firm as he > looks at integrating t

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: The PHP Platform

2002-04-12 Thread Markus Fischer
On Sat, Apr 13, 2002 at 08:23:14AM +0200, Björn Schotte wrote : > * Ken Egervari wrote: > > Like I said, I think its time PHP started moving forward and developed a new > > vision for itself and the community. > > This is one of the things I'm missing: in my opinion, PHP needs > to have a precis

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: The PHP Platform

2002-04-12 Thread Björn Schotte
* Ken Egervari wrote: > Like I said, I think its time PHP started moving forward and developed a new > vision for itself and the community. This is one of the things I'm missing: in my opinion, PHP needs to have a precise roadmap (like Mozilla has for example) what will come for PHP 5, 5.1, 5.2 a

RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: The PHP Platform

2002-04-12 Thread Tim Thorpe
That's probably the most civilized flame I've ever read. I'm impressed! -Original Message- From: Rasmus Lerdorf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 6:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: The PHP Platform Cool! This is about as work

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: The PHP Platform

2002-04-12 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
Cool! This is about as worked up as I have ever seen Jim. ;) -Rasmus On 13 Apr 2002, Jim Winstead wrote: > Ken Egervari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Usually that "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" attritude is just the > > thing to make a technology less and less useful and eventually it'll

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: The PHP Platform

2002-04-12 Thread Jim Winstead
Ken Egervari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Usually that "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" attritude is just the > thing to make a technology less and less useful and eventually it'll > be antiquated. Eseentially, it is already is. Don't get me wrong, > just because it's out of date doesn't mean i

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: The PHP Platform

2002-04-12 Thread fabwash
ile system. I can't wait to see your contribution to the php code and procedures so that PHP becomes your prefered language compared to Java. Fab. - Original Message - From: "Ken Egervari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 12,

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: The PHP Platform

2002-04-12 Thread Ken Egervari
obably taking advantage of all the other cool features that it provides. Like I said, I think its time PHP started moving forward and developed a new vision for itself and the community. Ken - Original Message - From: "Jim Winstead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: The PHP Platform

2002-04-12 Thread Andi Gutmans
At 22:01 12/04/2002 +, Jim Winstead wrote: >as to my own feelings of the value of reuse and improving productivity, >perhaps i see more value in reusing the components available in the java >and .net platforms through technologies like soap, ext/java, and >ext/dotnet, rather than cloning them

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: The PHP Platform

2002-04-12 Thread Jim Winstead
Ken Egervari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I actually find your post rather immature as well assuming that I just want > free custom tools. I think you need yourself need think to think about > software reuse and improving productivity. It's an important software issue > now as it was 20 years ag

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: The PHP Platform

2002-04-12 Thread Ken Egervari
e - From: "Jim Winstead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 4:41 PM Subject: [PHP-DEV] Re: The PHP Platform > Ken Egervari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [ ... ] because it really only solves the needs of HTML developers &

[PHP-DEV] Re: The PHP Platform

2002-04-12 Thread Jim Winstead
Ken Egervari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [ ... ] because it really only solves the needs of HTML developers > that need some dynamic functionality to their sites. [ ... ] what's wrong with that? more generally, why do you expect the developers of php to provide the tools that you want, instead