Re: [PHP] Would appreciate thoughts on session management

Ford, Mike [LSS] wrote... >> http://coremessaging.com/"; >> onClick="document.the_form.foo.value='5'; >> document.the_form.submit();">Next > > ... but there's *still* no GET variables involved here... I'm weighing the pros and cons of two different methods: "In

RE: [PHP] Would appreciate thoughts on session management

Additionally... > -Original Message- > From: Charles Wiltgen [mailto:lists@;wiltgen.net] > Sent: 13 November 2002 18:28 > > Ford, Mike [LSS] wrote... > > > ...But why would they even see that in the first place > If I want them > > to click on a button to do something

RE: [PHP] Would appreciate thoughts on session management

> -Original Message- > From: Charles Wiltgen [mailto:lists@;wiltgen.net] > Sent: 13 November 2002 18:28 > > Here's what I > was using: > > Form: > > http://domain.com/"; name="the_form"> > > > > Link: > > http://coremessaging.com/"; > onClick="document.the

Re: [PHP] Would appreciate thoughts on session management

Ford, Mike [LSS] wrote... > ...But why would they even see that in the first place If I want them > to click on a button to do something, I simply make it part of a "POST"> and the value gets fed to my script via $_POST without the user seeing > it in the URL. Why would I ever

RE: [PHP] Would appreciate thoughts on session management

> -Original Message- > From: Charles Wiltgen [mailto:lists@;wiltgen.net] > Sent: 12 November 2002 20:14 > > For example, take my "spinner object" example. By using > Invisible Get, > after clicking on the "increment spinner" button the user sees > > > > ra

Re: [PHP] Would appreciate thoughts on session management

On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:28:53 -0800, you wrote: [snip] >My Invisible GET method avoids all of this. If you get an example of this up and running somewhere why don't you post a link... -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP] Would appreciate thoughts on session management

Michael Sims wrote... > It's always been my experience that trans sid doesn't append the SID to header > redirects. You have to do it manually (I use the SID constant for this > purpose). When I test on a browser with cookies disabled, I imagine I'll find that I have to do that. That's okay, th

Re: [PHP] Would appreciate thoughts on session management

On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:55:52 -0800, you wrote: >It's simple, which is one thing I like about it. My submit.php looks like >this: > >session_start(); >header('Location: ' . $_REQUEST['target']); [snip] I'm curious...your redirect doesn't include the session ID, so how you maintain ses

Re: [PHP] Would appreciate thoughts on session management

Justin French wrote... > Well, you seem so sure it will work, so give it a go... I can't see how, but > am totally willing to learn! > > Have you got any info on invisible gets? It's simple, which is one thing I like about it. My submit.php looks like this: Then to send a new value for a

Re: [PHP] Would appreciate thoughts on session management

Well, you seem so sure it will work, so give it a go... I can't see how, but am totally willing to learn! Have you got any info on invisible gets? Justin French Creative Director http://Indent.com.au Web Developent & Graphic Design -- PHP General Mai

Re: [PHP] Would appreciate thoughts on session management

Ford, Mike [LSS] wrote... > I've been staying out of this discussion as I've been sure there was something > I was missing, but this comment I really don't understand -- if you use PHP's > built-in sessions, all that gets into the URL (maybe, if cookies are disabled) > is the session

RE: [PHP] Would appreciate thoughts on session management

> -Original Message- > From: Charles Wiltgen [mailto:lists@;wiltgen.net] > Sent: 12 November 2002 18:48 > > > Your method assumes something about your users: that they > click on links. > > This may be unlikely, but what if a user uses the 'copy URL > to clipboard' > > (or equivalent) fe

Re: [PHP] Would appreciate thoughts on session management

Pablo wrote... > Your method assumes something about your users: that they click on links. > This may be unlikely, but what if a user uses the 'copy URL to clipboard' > (or equivalent) feature of their browser? It could be pasted into an e-mail, > posted to a newsgroup, etc. Exactly -- this is th

Re: [PHP] Would appreciate thoughts on session management

On 11/12/02 10:15 AM, Charles Wiltgen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> So, your URLs will actually look like >> http://www.site.com/article.php?PHPSESSID=12413523245546453 > > No problem, since the user will never see this and other session properties > using this Invisible Get method even with cook

Re: [PHP] Would appreciate thoughts on session management

Justin, Many thanks for the reply. I didn't provide enough detail in some spots, and I'll attempt to clarify. > Seems to me like this would generate a lot of extra server traffic, and a > little confusion... The only benefit I can see is that you're getting rid of > ugly page URLs. User experie

Re: [PHP] Would appreciate thoughts on session management

Seems to me like this would generate a lot of extra server traffic, and a little confusion... The only benefit I can see is that you're getting rid of ugly page URLs. Problems I can see: 1. sessions need to be carried around... if your user has cookies turned off, or you wish not to use them; a)

Re: [PHP] Would appreciate thoughts on session management

I posted this yesterday: > Specifically, I'm considering using hidden fields for persistent object > properties because (1) I don't want cookies to be an issue, (2) I prefer not > to have session IDs appear in a URL, and (3) I prefer not to use require a > database just to store persistent propert

Re: [PHP] Re: Copy & Paste URL was [Re: [PHP] Would appreciate thoughts on session management ]

On Monday 11 November 2002 23:56, Charles Wiltgen wrote: > B.C. Lance wrote... > > > one reason that i could think of for not including session id into URL > > and using cookies would be copy & paste. > > > > users could just copy and paste the url and send it to his/her friends. > > and it could b

Re: [PHP] Would appreciate thoughts on session management

Justin wrote... > ...every link across your site has to be a form submit. Yuk!!! Yeah, yuk. I'm very silly and didn't realize this until after I'd posted. It's possible since links will be generated automatically, but yuk. Ernest wrote... > Hmm - NIH syndrome? > (>>not invented here<<) No, I

Re: [PHP] Would appreciate thoughts on session management

At 22:41 10.11.2002, Charles Wiltgen said: [snip] >I'm about to implement session management, and I'm considering rolling my >own instead of using PHP's. Hmm - NIH syndrome? (>>not invented here<<) >Specifically, I'm considering using hidden fields for pers

Re: [PHP] Would appreciate thoughts on session management

on 11/11/02 7:41 AM, Charles Wiltgen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Are there drawbacks to storing persistent object properties as a serialized > value in hidden fields that I'm missing? This is a newbie's first major web > application, so I really appreciate your input. Doesn't that mean you'd h