Re: [PHP] Viral Marketing PHP (was Re: [PHP] Computer Science and PHP)

2002-01-28 Thread DL Neil
Hello Manuel, I have just re-read this, and am conscious that I am appearing to disagree with you, too frequently, yet in overview I am wanting to agree!? I am a consultant, and I am well used to playing devil's advocate, ie disagreeing with what is being said, in order to arrive at the best

[PHP] Re: PHP in the University and Corporation [was RE: [PHP] Computer Science and PHP]

2002-01-27 Thread Mike Frazer
In order to make a living as a programmer, unless you can seriously wow your potential employers with raw ability, it's difficult to make any real money unless you have a little piece of paper that says Look what I can do! I've been programming in PHP, Perl, ASP, Java, Visual Basic, C and C++ to

RE: [PHP] Re: PHP in the University and Corporation [was RE: [PHP] Computer Science and PHP]

2002-01-27 Thread Chris Lott
I agree about going to technical colleges and other areas. In fact, I made that very point. There is no reason that these kinds of programs even NEED to be four year degrees. I don't want to get into a debate about certifications. As one who hires programmers, I can say this for myself and many

Re: [PHP] Viral Marketing PHP (was Re: [PHP] Computer Science and PHP)

2002-01-26 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello, Dl Neil wrote: One good point about what you said is that one budgetless what to promote PHP is to use 'viral marketing'. Viral marketing is a way to market something by using a technique that spreads by itself, ie, no additional effort or money needed to be spent by the

[PHP] PHP in the University and Corporation [was RE: [PHP] Computer Science and PHP]

2002-01-26 Thread Chris Lott
Computer science is considered an engineering discipline in most institutions. And I think that's good... we need people out there to develop OS's, create database servers, etc. PHP can be effectively used in this curriculum, but C seems a lot more to the point. The place where PHP could (and

Re: [PHP] Viral Marketing PHP (was Re: [PHP] Computer Science and PHP)

2002-01-24 Thread DL Neil
Hello Manuel, One other dimension, the institutions can only offer classes in the languages (and techniques/technologies) that the trainers know and than they have the resources (hardware, compilers/interpreters) to cover. Maybe therein lies an answer to the 'marketing' side too. The

[PHP] Viral Marketing PHP (was Re: [PHP] Computer Science and PHP)

2002-01-23 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello, Dl Neil wrote: One other dimension, the institutions can only offer classes in the languages (and techniques/technologies) that the trainers know and than they have the resources (hardware, compilers/interpreters) to cover. Maybe therein lies an answer to the 'marketing' side too.

Re: [PHP] Computer Science and PHP

2002-01-19 Thread Hank Marquardt
. Here we have several servers and dozens of courses on computer science. No server is PHP ready and no course instructor knows anything about PHP. Why do you think this is happening? I really like PHP and I am using it in my personal website to work with some text files and a small database

Re: [PHP] Computer Science and PHP

2002-01-19 Thread DL Neil
: Hank Marquardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Francesco Gallarotti [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 January 2002 13:01 Subject: Re: [PHP] Computer Science and PHP Hmm, well I'm 20 years removed from college at this point, but I can relate somewhat to the issue ... the tail end of my college

Re: [PHP] Computer Science and PHP

2002-01-18 Thread Erik Price
PROTECTED] Phone: 816.471.1095 Fax: 816.471.3447 24x7: 816.210.7145 -Original Message- From: Francesco Gallarotti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 5:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] Computer Science and PHP I am a student in a college in NY

[PHP] Computer Science and PHP

2002-01-17 Thread Francesco Gallarotti
I am a student in a college in NY state. Here we have several servers and dozens of courses on computer science. No server is PHP ready and no course instructor knows anything about PHP. Why do you think this is happening? I really like PHP and I am using it in my personal website to work

RE: [PHP] Computer Science and PHP

2002-01-17 Thread Jason Murray
Why PHP is so not popular in the computer science teaching area? Well, here at RMIT in Melbourne Australia they're teaching all the first year students PHP... Jason -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail:

RE: [PHP] Computer Science and PHP

2002-01-17 Thread Robert Covell
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] Computer Science and PHP I am a student in a college in NY state. Here we have several servers and dozens of courses on computer science. No server is PHP ready and no course instructor knows anything about PHP. Why do you think this is happening? I really like