Re: [PHP] Doctrine madness!

2011-06-20 Thread Nathan Nobbe
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 5:16 AM, Ford, Mike wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Nathan Nobbe [mailto:quickshif...@gmail.com] > > Sent: 16 June 2011 17:51 > > [...] > > > Here's what's going on, I instantiate a model object for the product > > table > > from my application > > > > $new

RE: [PHP] Doctrine madness!

2011-06-20 Thread Ford, Mike
> -Original Message- > From: Nathan Nobbe [mailto:quickshif...@gmail.com] > Sent: 16 June 2011 17:51 [...] > Here's what's going on, I instantiate a model object for the product > table > from my application > > $newRecord = new Product(); > > at this point memory usage goes up noticea

Re: [PHP] Doctrine madness!

2011-06-18 Thread Nathan Nobbe
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Jim Lucas wrote: > On 6/16/2011 3:15 PM, Nathan Nobbe wrote: > > what it really amounts to is php is good at doing 1 thing and 1 thing > only, > > generating web pages. for anything else, including command line scripts > > that run for more than 30 seconds, choos

Re: [PHP] Doctrine madness!

2011-06-18 Thread Richard Quadling
On 17 June 2011 20:19, Jim Lucas wrote: > On 6/16/2011 3:15 PM, Nathan Nobbe wrote: >> what it really amounts to is php is good at doing 1 thing and 1 thing only, >> generating web pages.  for anything else, including command line scripts >> that run for more than 30 seconds, choose an actual prog

Re: [PHP] Doctrine madness!

2011-06-17 Thread Jim Lucas
On 6/17/2011 12:23 PM, Eric Butera wrote: > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Jim Lucas wrote: >> On 6/16/2011 3:15 PM, Nathan Nobbe wrote: >>> what it really amounts to is php is good at doing 1 thing and 1 thing only, >>> generating web pages. for anything else, including command line scripts >>

Re: [PHP] Doctrine madness!

2011-06-17 Thread Bostjan Skufca
Not the original poster's response, but here PHP daemons also run smoothly. Full fledged OO style programming, with a bit of a thought about freeing unused variables/objects (running since PHP 5.2 times) it runs smoothly and in couple of weeks of uptime only gains few MB of memory footprint. Not he

Re: [PHP] Doctrine madness!

2011-06-17 Thread Jim Lucas
On 6/16/2011 3:15 PM, Nathan Nobbe wrote: > what it really amounts to is php is good at doing 1 thing and 1 thing only, > generating web pages. for anything else, including command line scripts > that run for more than 30 seconds, choose an actual programming language or > be prepared to deal w/ h

Re: [PHP] Doctrine madness!

2011-06-17 Thread Eric Butera
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Jim Lucas wrote: > On 6/16/2011 3:15 PM, Nathan Nobbe wrote: >> what it really amounts to is php is good at doing 1 thing and 1 thing only, >> generating web pages.  for anything else, including command line scripts >> that run for more than 30 seconds, choose an a

Re: [PHP] Doctrine madness!

2011-06-17 Thread Floyd Resler
On Jun 17, 2011, at 3:05 AM, wrote: > While I do agree with your discloser of the bloat for all off the shelf > frameworks. > > I created my own framework and my development time drop drastically and not > by a few hours, in some cases days. > > The complaint of time is always an issue, if

RE: [PHP] Doctrine madness!

2011-06-17 Thread admin
hat are DB driven. I never claimed to be the expert here, I just know what has made me very successful. Richard L. Buskirk -Original Message- From: Paul M Foster [mailto:pa...@quillandmouse.com] Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 1:46 AM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Doctri

Re: [PHP] Doctrine madness!

2011-06-16 Thread 李白|字一日
; Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 9:51 AM > > >> To: php-general@lists.php.net > > >> Subject: [PHP] Doctrine madness! > > >> > > >> Hi gang, > > >> > > >> If anyone out there has some experience w/ Doctrine now would be a &

Re: [PHP] Doctrine madness!

2011-06-16 Thread Paul M Foster
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 06:50:00PM -0700, Daevid Vincent wrote: [snip] > > Name me some LARGE popular sites that use frameworks? > I generally agree with your position, but I'm not sure about this one. I'm too lazy/busy to do extensive research, but I believe that Joomla and Drupal are used pr

Re: [PHP] Doctrine madness!

2011-06-16 Thread Paul M Foster
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 08:53:18PM -0400, Eric Butera wrote: > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Daevid Vincent wrote: > > [snip] > > I'm sorry but this is absolute rubbish. I used to write my queries by > hand, but over time you start to realize that perhaps, maybe writing > out thousands of

RE: [PHP] Doctrine madness! huh?

2011-06-16 Thread Daevid Vincent
> >> out XSS out of the box. Of course, with diligence and time we can all > >> overcome these things, but that does not mean someone with the > >> ambition to bang together a quick website for a relative understands > >> the real perils they're getting into - I certainly did not. > > > > I'm sure

Re: [PHP] Doctrine madness!

2011-06-16 Thread Eric Butera
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Daevid Vincent wrote: > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Eric Butera [mailto:eric.but...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 5:53 PM >> To: Daevid Vincent >> Cc: php-general@lists.php.net >> Subject: Re: [P

RE: [PHP] Doctrine madness!

2011-06-16 Thread Daevid Vincent
> -Original Message- > From: Eric Butera [mailto:eric.but...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 5:53 PM > To: Daevid Vincent > Cc: php-general@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP] Doctrine madness! > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 7:32 P

Re: [PHP] Doctrine madness!

2011-06-16 Thread Nathan Nobbe
11 2:58 PM > >> To: Daevid Vincent > >> Cc: php-general@lists.php.net > >> Subject: Re: [PHP] Doctrine madness! > >> > >> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Daevid Vincent wrote: > >> >> -Original Message- > >> >> From

RE: [PHP] Doctrine madness!

2011-06-16 Thread Daevid Vincent
> -Original Message- > From: Nathan Nobbe [mailto:quickshif...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 5:39 PM > To: Daevid Vincent > Cc: php-general@lists.php.net > Subject: RE: [PHP] Doctrine madness! > > On Jun 16, 2011 5:31 PM,

Re: [PHP] Doctrine madness!

2011-06-16 Thread Eric Butera
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Daevid Vincent wrote: > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Eric Butera [mailto:eric.but...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 2:58 PM >> To: Daevid Vincent >> Cc: php-general@lists.php.net >> Subject: Re: [P

RE: [PHP] Doctrine madness!

2011-06-16 Thread Nathan Nobbe
On Jun 16, 2011 5:31 PM, "Daevid Vincent" wrote: > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Eric Butera [mailto:eric.but...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 2:58 PM > > To: Daevid Vincent > > Cc: php-general@lists.php.net > &

RE: [PHP] Doctrine madness!

2011-06-16 Thread Daevid Vincent
> -Original Message- > From: Eric Butera [mailto:eric.but...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 2:58 PM > To: Daevid Vincent > Cc: php-general@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP] Doctrine madness! > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Daevid Vincent w

Re: [PHP] Doctrine madness!

2011-06-16 Thread Nathan Nobbe
eneral@lists.php.net > >> Subject: [PHP] Doctrine madness! > >> > >> Hi gang, > >> > >> If anyone out there has some experience w/ Doctrine now would be a great > >> time to share it! > > > > Yeah, I've used Doctrine as part of S

Re: [PHP] Doctrine madness!

2011-06-16 Thread Eric Butera
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Daevid Vincent wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: Nathan Nobbe [mailto:quickshif...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 9:51 AM >> To: php-general@lists.php.net >> Subject: [PHP] Doctrine madness! >> >&

RE: [PHP] Doctrine madness!

2011-06-16 Thread Daevid Vincent
> -Original Message- > From: Nathan Nobbe [mailto:quickshif...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 9:51 AM > To: php-general@lists.php.net > Subject: [PHP] Doctrine madness! > > Hi gang, > > If anyone out there has some experience w/ Doctrine now would

Re: [PHP] Doctrine madness!

2011-06-16 Thread Nathan Nobbe
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Eric Butera wrote: > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Nathan Nobbe > wrote: > > Hi gang, > > > > If anyone out there has some experience w/ Doctrine now would be a great > > time to share it! > > > > So I'm writing a batch importer and noticed memory usage climb

Re: [PHP] Doctrine madness!

2011-06-16 Thread Eric Butera
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Nathan Nobbe wrote: > Hi gang, > > If anyone out there has some experience w/ Doctrine now would be a great > time to share it! > > So I'm writing a batch importer and noticed memory usage climbing during > script execution. > > In the debugging effort I've isolat

[PHP] Doctrine madness!

2011-06-16 Thread Nathan Nobbe
Hi gang, If anyone out there has some experience w/ Doctrine now would be a great time to share it! So I'm writing a batch importer and noticed memory usage climbing during script execution. In the debugging effort I've isolated it down to a Doctrine issue. Here's what's going on, I instantiate