Re: [PHP] Re: Spam Bots/E-mail Addys

2002-06-13 Thread Miguel Cruz
On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, Manuel Lemos wrote: > I would say that the long standing users are even more aware that they > should not turn off Javascript because they are experienced enough to > know that some sites of their preference do not work right without > Javascript. > > I believe that users

Re: [PHP] Re: Spam Bots/E-mail Addys

2002-06-13 Thread Miguel Cruz
On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, Analysis & Solutions wrote: > On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 10:36:56PM -0500, Miguel Cruz wrote: >> If you're doing the site for the US government, you're (thank goodness) >> required by law to make sure it works without JavaScript. > > REALLY?! That's good news. Could you pleas

Re: [PHP] Re: Spam Bots/E-mail Addys

2002-06-13 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello, On 06/14/2002 01:25 AM, Analysis & Solutions wrote: Javascript-less represent less then 0.5% of the users in the World. >>> >>>I'd be interested in seeing this data proven. I'm not being sarcastic -- >>>I'm genuinely interested. >> >>http://www.phpclasses.org/browse.html/statistics/st

Re: [PHP] Re: Spam Bots/E-mail Addys

2002-06-13 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello, On 06/14/2002 01:08 AM, Justin French wrote: >>http://www.phpclasses.org/browse.html/statistics/statistics.html#user-browsers > > > Interesting, but these stats only indicate what *browser* has been used... > not if JS was enabled/disabled. > > case 1: user gets sick of pop-ups and crap

Re: [PHP] Re: Spam Bots/E-mail Addys

2002-06-13 Thread Analysis & Solutions
Sire: On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 02:56:27PM +1000, Martin Towell wrote: > > I agree that any checks should be done on the server anyway, just in case > someone has js turned off. But to reduce the load on the server, you can use > js to at least filter _some_ of the traffic. You have a point. Tho

RE: [PHP] Re: Spam Bots/E-mail Addys

2002-06-13 Thread Martin Towell
Spam Bots/E-mail Addys On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 12:32:05AM -0300, Manuel Lemos wrote: > On 06/14/2002 12:03 AM, Justin French wrote: > >On 14/06/02 12:45 PM, Manuel Lemos ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > >>Javascript-less represent less then 0.5% of the users in the World.

Re: [PHP] Re: Spam Bots/E-mail Addys

2002-06-13 Thread Analysis & Solutions
On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 10:36:56PM -0500, Miguel Cruz wrote: > > If you're doing the site for the US government, you're (thank goodness) > required by law to make sure it works without JavaScript. REALLY?! That's good news. Could you please provide a source for that? Thanks, --Dan --

Re: [PHP] Re: Spam Bots/E-mail Addys

2002-06-13 Thread Analysis & Solutions
On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 12:32:05AM -0300, Manuel Lemos wrote: > On 06/14/2002 12:03 AM, Justin French wrote: > >On 14/06/02 12:45 PM, Manuel Lemos ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > >>Javascript-less represent less then 0.5% of the users in the World. > > > >I'd be interested in seeing this data pro

Re: [PHP] Re: Spam Bots/E-mail Addys

2002-06-13 Thread Justin French
on 14/06/02 1:32 PM, Manuel Lemos ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > http://www.phpclasses.org/browse.html/statistics/statistics.html#user-browsers Interesting, but these stats only indicate what *browser* has been used... not if JS was enabled/disabled. case 1: user gets sick of pop-ups and crap, t

Re: [PHP] Re: Spam Bots/E-mail Addys

2002-06-13 Thread Miguel Cruz
On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, Justin French wrote: > on 14/06/02 12:45 PM, Manuel Lemos ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> I prefer to leave the less-than-0-dot-5-percent-non-Javascript-browser >> users fixing the address that had @ replaced. > > I agree. And in the case of a user site like yours, and email f

Re: [PHP] Re: Spam Bots/E-mail Addys

2002-06-13 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello, On 06/14/2002 12:03 AM, Justin French wrote: > on 14/06/02 12:45 PM, Manuel Lemos ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > >>Javascript-less represent less then 0.5% of the users in the World. > > > I'd be interested in seeing this data proven. I'm not being sarcastic -- > I'm genuinely interes

Re: [PHP] Re: Spam Bots/E-mail Addys

2002-06-13 Thread Justin French
on 14/06/02 12:45 PM, Manuel Lemos ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Javascript-less represent less then 0.5% of the users in the World. I'd be interested in seeing this data proven. I'm not being sarcastic -- I'm genuinely interested. > You are guessing. I am sure your address leaked from some ot

Re: [PHP] Re: Spam Bots/E-mail Addys

2002-06-13 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello, On 06/13/2002 11:02 PM, Justin French wrote: >>>I don't think relying on JavaScript for something so integral as an email >>>address it THAT good an idea... >> >>Why not? I use this on mirror sites that only serve static pages so I do >>not need to depend on PHP. > > > Simply, if the use

Re: [PHP] Re: Spam Bots/E-mail Addys

2002-06-13 Thread Justin French
Hi, on 14/06/02 11:53 AM, Manuel Lemos ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hello, > > On 06/13/2002 10:18 PM, Justin French wrote: >> I don't think relying on JavaScript for something so integral as an email >> address it THAT good an idea... > > Why not? I use this on mirror sites that only serve s

Re: [PHP] Re: Spam Bots/E-mail Addys

2002-06-13 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello, On 06/13/2002 10:18 PM, Justin French wrote: > I don't think relying on JavaScript for something so integral as an email > address it THAT good an idea... Why not? I use this on mirror sites that only serve static pages so I do not need to depend on PHP. > Use php to send a mailto: he

Re: [PHP] Re: Spam Bots/E-mail Addys

2002-06-13 Thread Justin French
I don't think relying on JavaScript for something so integral as an email address it THAT good an idea... Use php to send a mailto: header! I have a mail.php file, which I call with a link like: Justin and mail.php is a simple file: mailto:$email_address";); ?> It's got a default domain and

[PHP] Re: Spam Bots/E-mail Addys

2002-06-13 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello, On 06/13/2002 02:10 PM, Jason Soza wrote: > Just curious... > > If I have a site that stores information about people in a database, > including e-mail addresses, and that information is only viewable when > called via a user-specific variable, i.e. their alias, can spambots > still ha