RE: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-11 Thread Bob McConnell
From: Daniel P. Brown > On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 08:51, Robert Cummings wrote: >> >> Yeah, that and some Gateway with a Common Interface. > > So any language that could pre-process pre-hypertext would either > have the unique ability to foresee the future, the mundane ability to > "pre-proces

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-11 Thread D. Dante Lorenso
On 11/11/10 12:04 PM, Michael Shadle wrote: > Not to discredit this long post but the media here is now calling > kids who text often "hypertexting teens" which really irked me > even more...I bet some non-technical news guy thinks he is > awesome for coming up with that one. LOL! I too thought

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-11 Thread Michael Shadle
Not to discredit this long post but the media here is now calling kids who text often "hypertexting teens" which really irked me even more... I bet some non-technical news guy thinks he is awesome for coming up with that one. On Nov 11, 2010, at 9:54 AM, "Daniel P. Brown" wrote: > On Thu, No

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-11 Thread Daniel P. Brown
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 08:51, Robert Cummings wrote: > > Yeah, that and some Gateway with a Common Interface. My point was that there is now and never was any such PHP project known as pre-hypertext preprocessor. It originated as Personal Home Page Tools (PHP Tools) and Forms Interpreter (F

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-11 Thread Robert Cummings
On 10-11-11 03:49 AM, David Robley wrote: On Thu, 11 Nov 2010, Robert Cummings wrote: On 10-11-11 02:20 AM, David Robley wrote: Daniel P. Brown wrote: On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 20:59, Nathan Rixham wrote: I went back to using a pre hypertext processor, seemed like a really powerful templatin

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-11 Thread David Robley
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010, Robert Cummings wrote: > On 10-11-11 02:20 AM, David Robley wrote: > > Daniel P. Brown wrote: > >> On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 20:59, Nathan Rixham wrote: > >>> I went back to using a pre hypertext processor, seemed like a > >>> really powerful templating engine that was v famili

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-10 Thread Robert Cummings
On 10-11-11 02:20 AM, David Robley wrote: Daniel P. Brown wrote: On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 20:59, Nathan Rixham wrote: I went back to using a pre hypertext processor, seemed like a really powerful templating engine that was v familiar to use :p Pre-hypertext preprocessor? Perl? Pre

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-10 Thread David Robley
Daniel P. Brown wrote: > On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 20:59, Nathan Rixham wrote: >> >> I went back to using a pre hypertext processor, seemed like a really >> powerful templating engine that was v familiar to use :p > > Pre-hypertext preprocessor? Perl? > Pre Hypertext Processor - the acronym

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-10 Thread Daniel P. Brown
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 20:59, Nathan Rixham wrote: > > I went back to using a pre hypertext processor, seemed like a really > powerful templating engine that was v familiar to use :p Pre-hypertext preprocessor? Perl? -- Dedicated Servers, Cloud and Cloud Hybrid Solutions, VPS, Hosting (8

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-10 Thread Nathan Rixham
Daniel P. Brown wrote: On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 16:41, Hansen, Mike wrote: I really like the idea of using a templating engine. Which one do you use? Why? For those that don't use templating engines, why don't you use them? I chose to write two of my own over the years: one procedural, one

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-10 Thread tedd
At 11:38 AM -0500 11/9/10, Robert Cummings wrote: On 10-11-09 11:18 AM, tedd wrote: At 10:57 AM -0500 11/9/10, Robert Cummings wrote: On 10-11-09 10:42 AM, tedd wrote: I don't have to try them all, just the most popular. If the most popular doesn't work for me, then I don't need to try any ot

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-09 Thread Govinda
I really like the idea of using a templating engine. Which one do you use? Why? For those that don't use templating engines, why don't you use them? Hi Mike I am still so new at PHP that i do not get a real valid vote here... (I have never used any templating engine).. BUT I know myself

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-09 Thread Adam Richardson
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Hansen, Mike wrote: > I really like the idea of using a templating engine. Which one do you use? > Why? For those that don't use templating engines, why don't you use them? > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://ww

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-09 Thread knl
On Tue, 9 Nov 2010 00:20:52 -0500 Paul M Foster wrote: > On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 02:41:12PM -0700, Hansen, Mike wrote: > > Here's why I don't use a templating engine. > > First, You're taking an embedded language and writing a templating > engine in it. Seriously? > > Second, you're painting a

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-09 Thread Robert Cummings
On 10-11-09 10:42 AM, tedd wrote: At 12:23 AM -0500 11/9/10, Robert Cummings wrote: On 10-11-09 12:20 AM, Paul M Foster wrote: On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 02:41:12PM -0700, Hansen, Mike wrote: I really like the idea of using a templating engine. Which one do you use? Why? For those that don't use

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-09 Thread tedd
At 10:57 AM -0500 11/9/10, Robert Cummings wrote: On 10-11-09 10:42 AM, tedd wrote: I don't have to try them all, just the most popular. If the most popular doesn't work for me, then I don't need to try any others. That's all well and good, but the argument being used is a generalization whi

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-09 Thread Robert Cummings
On 10-11-09 11:18 AM, tedd wrote: At 10:57 AM -0500 11/9/10, Robert Cummings wrote: On 10-11-09 10:42 AM, tedd wrote: I don't have to try them all, just the most popular. If the most popular doesn't work for me, then I don't need to try any others. That's all well and good, but the argument

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-09 Thread tedd
At 12:23 AM -0500 11/9/10, Robert Cummings wrote: On 10-11-09 12:20 AM, Paul M Foster wrote: On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 02:41:12PM -0700, Hansen, Mike wrote: I really like the idea of using a templating engine. Which one do you use? Why? For those that don't use templating engines, why don't you

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-09 Thread tedd
At 12:20 AM -0500 11/9/10, Paul M Foster wrote: On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 02:41:12PM -0700, Hansen, Mike wrote: I really like the idea of using a templating engine. Which one do you use? Why? For those that don't use templating engines, why don't you use them? Here's why I don't use a templ

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-09 Thread tedd
At 10:24 PM -0500 11/8/10, Matt Giddings wrote: I have to agree with David here. Smarty may be an added layer to the whole mix, but it makes maintaining the template and application much simpler. Much better than mixing html/php all together in a single file. That and a single template is eas

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-09 Thread tedd
At 10:00 PM -0500 11/8/10, David McGlone wrote: On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 23:36 +0100, k...@bitflop.com wrote: > IMHO - If you have to jump in and out of HTML and template syntax you might as well jump in and out of HTML and PHP. There is truth to this, but for me, its helping me learn in a muc

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-08 Thread Peter Lind
On 9 November 2010 06:20, Paul M Foster wrote: > On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 02:41:12PM -0700, Hansen, Mike wrote: > >> I really like the idea of using a templating engine. Which one do you >> use? Why? For those that don't use templating engines, why don't you >> use them? >> > > Here's why I don't u

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-08 Thread Robert Cummings
On 10-11-09 12:20 AM, Paul M Foster wrote: On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 02:41:12PM -0700, Hansen, Mike wrote: I really like the idea of using a templating engine. Which one do you use? Why? For those that don't use templating engines, why don't you use them? Here's why I don't use a templating en

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-08 Thread Paul M Foster
On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 02:41:12PM -0700, Hansen, Mike wrote: > I really like the idea of using a templating engine. Which one do you > use? Why? For those that don't use templating engines, why don't you > use them? > Here's why I don't use a templating engine. First, You're taking an embedde

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-08 Thread Matt Giddings
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 9:39 PM, David McGlone wrote: > On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 16:51 -0500, Steve Staples wrote: > > On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 14:41 -0700, Hansen, Mike wrote: > > > I really like the idea of using a templating engine. Which one do you > use? Why? For those that don't use templating eng

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-08 Thread David McGlone
On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 23:36 +0100, k...@bitflop.com wrote: > On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 14:41:12 -0700 > "Hansen, Mike" wrote: > > > I really like the idea of using a templating engine. Which one do you > > use? Why? For those that don't use templating engines, why don't you > > use them? > > PHP is in

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-08 Thread David McGlone
On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 16:51 -0500, Steve Staples wrote: > On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 14:41 -0700, Hansen, Mike wrote: > > I really like the idea of using a templating engine. Which one do you use? > > Why? For those that don't use templating engines, why don't you use them? > > > > > > for the long

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-08 Thread knl
On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 14:41:12 -0700 "Hansen, Mike" wrote: > I really like the idea of using a templating engine. Which one do you > use? Why? For those that don't use templating engines, why don't you > use them? PHP is in itself a template language and I find that the template engines just get i

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-08 Thread Michael Shadle
i would point someone in the direction of XHP too if they really wanted to https://github.com/facebook/xhp/wiki/ On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Peter Lind wrote: > On 8 November 2010 22:59, Michael Shadle wrote: >> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Hansen, Mike wrote: >>> I really like the idea

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-08 Thread Peter Lind
On 8 November 2010 22:59, Michael Shadle wrote: > On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Hansen, Mike wrote: >> I really like the idea of using a templating engine. Which one do you use? >> Why? For those that don't use templating engines, why don't you use them? > > smarty is everyone's favorite usual

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-08 Thread Robert Cummings
On 10-11-08 05:02 PM, Bastien Koert wrote: On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: On 10-11-08 04:51 PM, Steve Staples wrote: all of my projects now consist of smarty, pear mdb2, phpmailer, jquery, fpdf (if needed), and pchart (again, if needed). these are my personal choices

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-08 Thread Bastien Koert
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: > On 10-11-08 04:51 PM, Steve Staples wrote: >> >> all of my projects now consist of smarty, pear mdb2, phpmailer, jquery, >> fpdf (if needed), and pchart (again, if needed).   these are my personal >> choices, and I have been happy with them

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-08 Thread Michael Shadle
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Hansen, Mike wrote: > I really like the idea of using a templating engine. Which one do you use? > Why? For those that don't use templating engines, why don't you use them? smarty is everyone's favorite usually but i find it a bit annoying. not to mention php its

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-08 Thread Robert Cummings
On 10-11-08 04:51 PM, Steve Staples wrote: all of my projects now consist of smarty, pear mdb2, phpmailer, jquery, fpdf (if needed), and pchart (again, if needed). these are my personal choices, and I have been happy with them so far ;) pchart... *shudder*. I recently had to add support for

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-08 Thread Steve Staples
On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 14:41 -0700, Hansen, Mike wrote: > I really like the idea of using a templating engine. Which one do you use? > Why? For those that don't use templating engines, why don't you use them? > > for the longest time, i didn't know about them, and was breaking in and out of php

Re: [PHP] Template engines

2010-11-08 Thread Daniel P. Brown
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 16:41, Hansen, Mike wrote: > I really like the idea of using a templating engine. Which one do you use? > Why? For those that don't use templating engines, why don't you use them? I chose to write two of my own over the years: one procedural, one OOP. That said, the m

[PHP] Template engines

2010-11-08 Thread Hansen, Mike
I really like the idea of using a templating engine. Which one do you use? Why? For those that don't use templating engines, why don't you use them? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php