php-general Digest 12 Dec 2010 18:24:43 - Issue 7083
Topics (messages 309964 through 309985):
Re: ORM doctrine
309964 by: Peter Lind
309965 by: Tommy Pham
309966 by: Peter Lind
309967 by: Lester Caine
309968 by: Tommy Pham
309969 by: Tommy
I understand cache well, both the benefits (save DB trip) and shortfalls
(outdated by DB, management, etc.). Most of the apps that I've seen so far
used cache to solve a problem that shouldn't happen in the 1st place. For
example, during recent my quest looking PHP MVC framework and
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From: Peter Lind [mailto:peter.e.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 1:18 AM
To: Tommy Pham
Cc: php-general List
Subject: Re: [PHP] ORM doctrine
I understand cache well, both the benefits (save DB trip) and
shortfalls (outdated by DB, management,
On Sunday, 12 December 2010, Tommy Pham tommy...@gmail.com wrote:
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From: Peter Lind [mailto:peter.e.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 1:18 AM
To: Tommy Pham
Cc: php-general List
Subject: Re: [PHP] ORM doctrine
I understand cache well, both the
Peter Lind wrote:
Your posts seem to indicate that caches are only useful when other
parts of the app have been done wrong. My point was that this is a
fairly fundamental misunderstanding of caches - regardless of what you
are or aren't capable of optimizing.
CHACHES are only useful when there
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From: Peter Lind [mailto:peter.e.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 1:44 AM
To: Tommy Pham
Cc: php-general List
Subject: Re: [PHP] ORM doctrine
On Sunday, 12 December 2010, Tommy Pham tommy...@gmail.com
wrote:
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From:
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From: Lester Caine [mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk]
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 2:10 AM
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Subject: Re: [PHP] ORM doctrine
Peter Lind wrote:
Your posts seem to indicate that caches are only useful when other
parts of the app have been done
On Sunday, 12 December 2010, Tommy Pham tommy...@gmail.com wrote:
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From: Lester Caine [mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk]
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 2:10 AM
To: php-general List
Subject: Re: [PHP] ORM doctrine
Peter Lind wrote:
Your posts seem to indicate that
Kirk Bailey wrote:
Ok, so what is echo, and how is it different from print.
The code in code quest used echo. I have a copy of learning php 5.0 from
O'Reilly, and noplace does it mention echo. Why? What's the difference?
IS there a difference? Is there an advantage to either? Please clarify
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From: Peter Lind [mailto:peter.e.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 3:05 AM
To: Tommy Pham
Cc: Lester Caine; php-general List
Subject: Re: [PHP] ORM doctrine
On Sunday, 12 December 2010, Tommy Pham tommy...@gmail.com
wrote:
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Peter Lind wrote:
I may have misunderstood the topic, but a cache to me is more than
just storing views. It's also the db cache, memcache, apc, etc. You
have to think about how you use these - some of them can't just be
slapped on to your app after development.
Data caching SHOULD always be
Nice one Dan, and thanks! :)
Daniel Brown wrote:
Happy Saturday, folks;
I've finally gotten around to releasing my latest PHP extension
(which was actually written about two years ago). Named FileConv, it
adds native functions for converting back and forth between DOS, *NIX,
and
On Sunday, 12 December 2010, Tommy Pham tommy...@gmail.com wrote:
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From: Lester Caine [mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk]
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 2:10 AM
To: php-general List
Subject: Re: [PHP] ORM doctrine
Peter Lind wrote:
Your posts seem to indicate that
On Sunday, 12 December 2010, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
Peter Lind wrote:
I may have misunderstood the topic, but a cache to me is more than
just storing views. It's also the db cache, memcache, apc, etc. You
have to think about how you use these - some of them can't just be
Hi All,
Apologies for wading in to this discussion, however I must point out
that caching at every level is very very important.
As Peter says, caching is not an optimization to be thought of later, it
is not the icing on the cake, rather, caching is one of the most
critical design factors,
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From: Peter Lind [mailto:peter.e.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 5:27 AM
To: Lester Caine
Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] ORM doctrine
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The reason for 'caching' needs to be understood before it is applied in
order to
Tommy Pham wrote:
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From: Peter Lind [mailto:peter.e.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 5:27 AM
To: Lester Caine
Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] ORM doctrine
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The reason for 'caching' needs to be understood before it is applied in
Groovy; they appear to be identical in all but name. IDENTICAL. Or am I
missing a subtle definition difference?
David Robley wrote:
Kirk Bailey wrote:
Ok, so what is echo, and how is it different from print.
The code in code quest used echo. I have a copy of learning php 5.0 from
Nathan Rixham wrote:
In your application itself, caching can be introduced at every level,
you've already got filesystem io caches provided by the operating
system, a well tuned db server cache can make a big difference as well,
then on to opcode caches in languages like PHP since it's
Lester Caine wrote:
Nathan Rixham wrote:
In your application itself, caching can be introduced at every level,
you've already got filesystem io caches provided by the operating
system, a well tuned db server cache can make a big difference as well,
then on to opcode caches in languages like PHP
On 2010-12-12, at 11:45 AM, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote:
Lester Caine wrote:
Nathan Rixham wrote:
In your application itself, caching can be introduced at every level,
you've already got filesystem io caches provided by the operating
system, a well tuned db server cache can make
Nathan Rixham wrote:
Lester Caine wrote:
Nathan Rixham wrote:
In your application itself, caching can be introduced at every level,
you've already got filesystem io caches provided by the operating
system, a well tuned db server cache can make a big difference as well,
then on to opcode caches
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Tommy Pham tommy...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Has anyone used doctrine before? I know Nathan mentioned it in the other
thread but I was wondering how does it handle multi table joins query,
about
its performance and whether it uses any type of caching.
Thanks,
Lester Caine wrote:
For fixed pages this is the best way of handling the information. And
handling those fixed pages is ... from my point of view ... not a
problem since they can be cached at that level, or even stored locally
in the browser cache. I've just been hitting re-load every time for
They are almost identical.
Echo supports multiple parameters like echo $a, $b;
print is 20% slower than echo (by some tests).
echo is shorter than print so it's easy to write.
In fact it's all a matter of taste. The same reason we user die instead of
exit.
Alex
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 6:23 PM,
And the obvious difference, print returns true on success. I'm not sure what
would cause an echo it print to ever fail, so it really doesn't make a huge
difference.
Thanks,
Ash
http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
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From: Alexandru Patranescu dreal...@gmail.com
Date: Sun,
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From: Nathan Rixham [mailto:nrix...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 8:23 AM
To: Tommy Pham
Cc: 'Peter Lind'; php-general@lists.php.net; 'Lester Caine'
Subject: Re: [PHP] ORM doctrine
Tommy Pham wrote:
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From: Peter Lind
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From: Bastien [mailto:phps...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 9:20 AM
To: Nathan Rixham
Cc: Lester Caine; php-general List
Subject: Re: [PHP] ORM doctrine
On 2010-12-12, at 11:45 AM, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote:
Lester Caine wrote:
Hello all.
I have a page where the user can enter a search phrase and upon
submitting, the search phrase is queried in MySQL.
However, I need to modify is so each word in the phrase is searched
for... not just the exact phrase.
So, big blue hat will return results like:
A big hat - blue
Tommy Pham wrote:
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From: Nathan Rixham [mailto:nrix...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 8:23 AM
To: Tommy Pham
Cc: 'Peter Lind'; php-general@lists.php.net; 'Lester Caine'
Subject: Re: [PHP] ORM doctrine
Tommy Pham wrote:
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From:
Rick Dwyer wrote:
Hello all.
I have a page where the user can enter a search phrase and upon
submitting, the search phrase is queried in MySQL.
However, I need to modify is so each word in the phrase is searched
for... not just the exact phrase.
So, big blue hat will return results like:
Thanks Nathan.
The MySQL Match/Against will probably work well... but I would need to
somehow add a + to the beginning of each word in the phrase so PHP
will still be involved.
--Rick
On Dec 12, 2010, at 2:51 PM, Nathan Rixham wrote:
Rick Dwyer wrote:
Hello all.
I have a page where
-Original Message-
From: Nathan Rixham [mailto:nrix...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 11:41 AM
To: Tommy Pham
Cc: 'Peter Lind'; php-general@lists.php.net; 'Lester Caine'
Subject: Re: [PHP] ORM doctrine
Tommy Pham wrote:
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From: Nathan
I have it working now using preg_replace.
--Rick
On Dec 12, 2010, at 3:50 PM, Rick Dwyer wrote:
Thanks Nathan.
The MySQL Match/Against will probably work well... but I would need
to somehow add a + to the beginning of each word in the phrase so
PHP will still be involved.
--Rick
On
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From: Tommy Pham [mailto:tommy...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 12:53 PM
To: 'nrix...@gmail.com'
Cc: 'Peter Lind'; 'php-general@lists.php.net'; 'Lester Caine'
Subject: RE: [PHP] ORM doctrine
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From: Nathan Rixham
Nathan, Thank you very much for your response, we are going to visualize
network management system(topolgy view) with SVG and AJAX.
We found a jQuery plugin, following are urls.
http://plugins.jquery.com/project/svg
http://keith-wood.name/svg.html
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 10:50 PM, Nathan Nobbe
Nathan Rixham wrote:
For fixed pages this is the best way of handling the information. And
handling those fixed pages is ... from my point of view ... not a
problem since they can be cached at that level, or even stored locally
in the browser cache. I've just been hitting re-load every time for
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