Re: [PHP] Viral Marketing PHP (was Re: [PHP] Computer Science and PHP)

2002-01-28 Thread DL Neil
Hello Manuel, I have just re-read this, and am conscious that I am appearing to disagree with you, too frequently, yet in overview I am wanting to agree!? I am a consultant, and I am well used to playing "devil's advocate", ie disagreeing with what is being said, in order to arrive at the best

RE: [PHP] Re: PHP in the University and Corporation [was RE: [PHP] Computer Science and PHP]

2002-01-27 Thread Chris Lott
I agree about going to technical colleges and other areas. In fact, I made that very point. There is no reason that these kinds of programs even NEED to be four year degrees. I don't want to get into a debate about certifications. As one who hires programmers, I can say this for myself and many o

[PHP] Re: PHP in the University and Corporation [was RE: [PHP] Computer Science and PHP]

2002-01-27 Thread Mike Frazer
In order to make a living as a programmer, unless you can seriously wow your potential employers with raw ability, it's difficult to make any real money unless you have a little piece of paper that says "Look what I can do!" I've been programming in PHP, Perl, ASP, Java, Visual Basic, C and C++ to

[PHP] PHP in the University and Corporation [was RE: [PHP] Computer Science and PHP]

2002-01-26 Thread Chris Lott
Computer science is considered an engineering discipline in most institutions. And I think that's good... we need people out there to develop OS's, create database servers, etc. PHP can be effectively used in this curriculum, but C seems a lot more to the point. The place where PHP could (and sh

Re: [PHP] Viral Marketing PHP (was Re: [PHP] Computer Science and PHP)

2002-01-26 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello, Dl Neil wrote: > > One good point about what you said is that one budgetless what to > > promote PHP is to use 'viral marketing'. Viral marketing is a way to > > market something by using a technique that spreads by itself, ie, no > > additional effort or money needed to be spent by the or

Re: [PHP] Viral Marketing PHP (was Re: [PHP] Computer Science and PHP)

2002-01-24 Thread DL Neil
Hello Manuel, > > One other dimension, the institutions can only offer classes in the languages (and >techniques/technologies) that > > the trainers know and than they have the resources (hardware, >compilers/interpreters) to cover. > > > > Maybe therein lies an answer to the 'marketing' side t

[PHP] Viral Marketing PHP (was Re: [PHP] Computer Science and PHP)

2002-01-23 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello, Dl Neil wrote: > One other dimension, the institutions can only offer classes in the languages (and >techniques/technologies) that > the trainers know and than they have the resources (hardware, >compilers/interpreters) to cover. > > Maybe therein lies an answer to the 'marketing' side

Re: [PHP] Computer Science and PHP

2002-01-19 Thread DL Neil
=dn - Original Message - From: "Hank Marquardt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Francesco Gallarotti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 19 January 2002 13:01 Subject: Re: [PHP] Computer Science and PHP > Hmm, well I'm 20 years removed

Re: [PHP] Computer Science and PHP

2002-01-19 Thread Hank Marquardt
Hmm, well I'm 20 years removed from college at this point, but I can relate somewhat to the issue ... the tail end of my college life was when the IBM PC was introduced and I can assure you there were no classes in 'small systems' of any kind despite the fact that many could see the future --- Ce

Re: [PHP] Computer Science and PHP

2002-01-18 Thread Erik Price
Sincerely, > > Robert T. Covell > President / Owner > Rolet Internet Services, LLC > Web: www.rolet.com > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Phone: 816.471.1095 > Fax: 816.471.3447 > 24x7: 816.210.7145 > > -Original Message- > From: Francesco Gallarotti [mailto:[EM

RE: [PHP] Computer Science and PHP

2002-01-17 Thread Robert Covell
anuary 17, 2002 5:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] Computer Science and PHP I am a student in a college in NY state. Here we have several servers and dozens of courses on computer science. No server is PHP ready and no course instructor knows anything about PHP. Why do you think this is

RE: [PHP] Computer Science and PHP

2002-01-17 Thread Jason Murray
> Why PHP is so not popular in the computer science teaching area? Well, here at RMIT in Melbourne Australia they're teaching all the first year students PHP... Jason -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [E

[PHP] Computer Science and PHP

2002-01-17 Thread Francesco Gallarotti
I am a student in a college in NY state. Here we have several servers and dozens of courses on computer science. No server is PHP ready and no course instructor knows anything about PHP. Why do you think this is happening? I really like PHP and I am using it in my personal website to work with som