Re: [PHP] book quest

[Tommy Pham]

On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:12 AM, George Langley wrote:

>
> On 2011-09-29, at 8:53 AM, Andy McKenzie wrote:
>
> >> Is there something wrong with the PHP.net manual?  Or you just want
> >> something physical to be able read any where and stay unplugged?  If the
> >> latter and there's nothing wrong with the official manual, try
> downloading
> >> the chm or single html file and print as you go.  No need to lug around
> >> thick that manual/reference ;)
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Tommy
> >
> >
> > I didn't find that there was anything wrong with the PHP.net manual,
> > except that it wasn't a book about learning to program.  It's a
> > fantastic reference guide;  if I can't remember what order the inputs
> > to that one function go in, it's my first resort.  But I prefer to
> > read paper for learning theory, and I find it more useful to flip
> > through pages trying to find something I half remember than to click
> > through links.  Put simply, I like to learn the basics from books
> > rather than web pages.
> --
>And as the OP said, something that they can carry around - websites
> don't always cut it on the morning commute! (Although I hope the OP wouldn't
> "smoke" anything!)
>I too prefer books, as they are usually organized as a training
> course, starting you with the basics and walking you through a logical
> progression of learning, as well as giving real-world lessons and
> experience. Not saying that php.net is or isn't, but more often than not,
> the manuals that come with software are organized by sections or features,
> and do not give you the basics from which to start. It's no good to start
> with "This is the drawing tool", if you don't know how to create a canvas to
> draw on. Reference books/sites are good once you know the basics on proper
> techniques, best practices and sensible workflows, and you can now expand
> into the full features that the software can offer.
>Plus, they can target your skills and desired learning - am
> currently researching Drupal, and have found some books that teach the
> basics on using it within its limits, and then others that teach how to
> build your own modules and plugins. Depending on what you are looking for,
> you can quickly target the skills you need to learn.
>And, is easier to make your notes in the margins on a piece of
> paper!
>
>Having said that, one of the main books I used for PHP was Apress'
>  "Beginning PHP and MySQL", which is now in a 4th edition:
>
> http://www.apress.com/9781430231141
>
> It provided a logical approach to both technologies and how to integrate
> them, all in one book.
>Then get one that focuses on security. O'Reilly has one (or more),
> but the one I picked up was "Securing PHP Web Applications":
>
> http://www.amazon.ca/Securing-PHP-Applications-Tricia-Ballad/dp/0321534344
>
> and was a good read.
>
>I just wish book publishers offered an upgrade path if you bought an
> earlier edition, the way software publishers do! Perhaps that will be the
> greatest advantage an iPad or Kobo will have over paper.
>
>
> George Langley
> Multimedia Developer


@Andy and George

>From the layout of the official manual, whilst it doesn't have the
traditional method of explaining as textbooks, to me, it does however
progress as you mentioned:

"Installation and Configuration" - same as any PHP book I've seen though the
other books may not explain all different methods and/or different platforms
as the official.  +1

"Language Reference"
- Basic Syntax
- Types
- Variables
- Constants
- Expressions
- Operators
- Control Structures
- Functions
- etc...


@George,

As for morning commute, if you're driving, you shouldn't be reading
anything. :) That's why I mentioned 'print'.  Printing as you read/progress
means carrying less than entire book.  Any decent book will range in about
400+ pages.  Another good side to printing as you go is that a thick book
wouldn't seem overwhelming for beginners as to how much information they
have to digest and absorb, especially someone who is new to IT and not used
to reading thick books/manuals.  As for the book giving real world
experiences, that's only to give you small idea of what you _may_
encounter.  Personally, I find that too broad and in depth to encompass in a
book unless it's a(n) auto/biography.  A good example to that is accessing
database.  How do you explain to someone new which he/she should use and
why:  straight access via client library, ODBC, PDO, abstraction/wrappers,
ORM, and/or any combination there of.  Although this requires some
understanding of PHP, I don't recall any book hinting or briefly explaining
all the possible methods of DB access.  A long time ago, I wrote an
abstraction wrapper that would allow me to access any DB that PHP supports
and allow simultaneous connections to same and/or different DBs because my
need was there.  That same wrapper would allow DB specific operations too.
IIRC, this was long before

Re: [PHP] book quest

[George Langley]

On 2011-09-29, at 8:53 AM, Andy McKenzie wrote:

>> Is there something wrong with the PHP.net manual?  Or you just want
>> something physical to be able read any where and stay unplugged?  If the
>> latter and there's nothing wrong with the official manual, try downloading
>> the chm or single html file and print as you go.  No need to lug around
>> thick that manual/reference ;)
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Tommy
> 
> 
> I didn't find that there was anything wrong with the PHP.net manual,
> except that it wasn't a book about learning to program.  It's a
> fantastic reference guide;  if I can't remember what order the inputs
> to that one function go in, it's my first resort.  But I prefer to
> read paper for learning theory, and I find it more useful to flip
> through pages trying to find something I half remember than to click
> through links.  Put simply, I like to learn the basics from books
> rather than web pages.
--
And as the OP said, something that they can carry around - websites 
don't always cut it on the morning commute! (Although I hope the OP wouldn't 
"smoke" anything!)
I too prefer books, as they are usually organized as a training course, 
starting you with the basics and walking you through a logical progression of 
learning, as well as giving real-world lessons and experience. Not saying that 
php.net is or isn't, but more often than not, the manuals that come with 
software are organized by sections or features, and do not give you the basics 
from which to start. It's no good to start with "This is the drawing tool", if 
you don't know how to create a canvas to draw on. Reference books/sites are 
good once you know the basics on proper techniques, best practices and sensible 
workflows, and you can now expand into the full features that the software can 
offer.
Plus, they can target your skills and desired learning - am currently 
researching Drupal, and have found some books that teach the basics on using it 
within its limits, and then others that teach how to build your own modules and 
plugins. Depending on what you are looking for, you can quickly target the 
skills you need to learn.
And, is easier to make your notes in the margins on a piece of paper!

Having said that, one of the main books I used for PHP was Apress'  
"Beginning PHP and MySQL", which is now in a 4th edition:

http://www.apress.com/9781430231141

It provided a logical approach to both technologies and how to integrate them, 
all in one book.
Then get one that focuses on security. O'Reilly has one (or more), but 
the one I picked up was "Securing PHP Web Applications":

http://www.amazon.ca/Securing-PHP-Applications-Tricia-Ballad/dp/0321534344

and was a good read.

I just wish book publishers offered an upgrade path if you bought an 
earlier edition, the way software publishers do! Perhaps that will be the 
greatest advantage an iPad or Kobo will have over paper.


George Langley
Multimedia Developer

Re: [PHP] book quest

[Andy McKenzie]

> Is there something wrong with the PHP.net manual?  Or you just want
> something physical to be able read any where and stay unplugged?  If the
> latter and there's nothing wrong with the official manual, try downloading
> the chm or single html file and print as you go.  No need to lug around
> thick that manual/reference ;)
>
> Regards,
> Tommy
>

I'm not the original poster, but I have a response to this:


I didn't find that there was anything wrong with the PHP.net manual,
except that it wasn't a book about learning to program.  It's a
fantastic reference guide;  if I can't remember what order the inputs
to that one function go in, it's my first resort.  But I prefer to
read paper for learning theory, and I find it more useful to flip
through pages trying to find something I half remember than to click
through links.  Put simply, I like to learn the basics from books
rather than web pages.

-Andy

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Re: [PHP] book quest

[Nam Gi VU]

I'm a newbie in PHP technology and what I started with PHP was googling for
PHP + ~tutorial ~"getting started"
which results as this page
http://www.google.com.vn/search?aq=f&gcx=w&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=PHP+%2B+~tutorial+~%22getting+started%22

>From that list, I can have almost all kind of beginner stuff for a newbie
^_^

Regards,
Nam

On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 5:20 AM, Kirk Bailey wrote:

> The best book for a beginner? No, don't tell me php.net, I hear that one
> already, and while it is indeed good, I want something in a dead tree
> edition I can canny around and smoke as needed.
>
> --
> end
>
> Very Truly yours,
> - Kirk Bailey,
>   Largo Florida
>
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Re: [PHP] book quest

[Tommy Pham]

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Jim Lucas  wrote:

> On 9/28/2011 3:26 PM, Bastien Koert wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Kirk Bailey 
> wrote:
> >> The best book for a beginner? No, don't tell me php.net, I hear that
> one
> >> already, and while it is indeed good, I want something in a dead tree
> >> edition I can canny around and smoke as needed.
> >>
> >> --
> >> end
> >>
> >> Very Truly yours,
> >> - Kirk Bailey,
> >>   Largo Florida
> >>
> >>   kniht
> >>  +-+
> >>  | BOX |
> >>  +-+
> >>   think
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
> >> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
> >>
> >>
> >
> > I had great success with Wrox PHP Programming and PHP Essentials by
> > Julie C. Meloni
> >
> > The latter is dated, but was clearly written.
> >
>
> PHP Essentials (first edition) by Julie C. Meloni was the first book about
> PHP
> that I ever bought.  I did not find it very useful.
>
> The second book was "Core PHP First Edition" by Leon Atkinson.  It was more
> like
> an encyclopedia/dictionary with some decent examples.
>
> Around 2001 I started participating the general mailing list.  I haven't
> bought
> another book on PHP since.  PHP.net manual, the php-general mailing list
> and the
> wonderful members of this list, and Google have provided answers for all
> the
> questions I have ever needed to ask since.
>
> Jim Lucas
>
>
>
Is there something wrong with the PHP.net manual?  Or you just want
something physical to be able read any where and stay unplugged?  If the
latter and there's nothing wrong with the official manual, try downloading
the chm or single html file and print as you go.  No need to lug around
thick that manual/reference ;)

Regards,
Tommy

Re: [PHP] book quest

[Jim Lucas]

On 9/28/2011 3:26 PM, Bastien Koert wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Kirk Bailey  wrote:
>> The best book for a beginner? No, don't tell me php.net, I hear that one
>> already, and while it is indeed good, I want something in a dead tree
>> edition I can canny around and smoke as needed.
>>
>> --
>> end
>>
>> Very Truly yours,
>> - Kirk Bailey,
>>   Largo Florida
>>
>>   kniht
>>  +-+
>>  | BOX |
>>  +-+
>>   think
>>
>>
>> --
>> PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
>> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
>>
>>
> 
> I had great success with Wrox PHP Programming and PHP Essentials by
> Julie C. Meloni
> 
> The latter is dated, but was clearly written.
> 

PHP Essentials (first edition) by Julie C. Meloni was the first book about PHP
that I ever bought.  I did not find it very useful.

The second book was "Core PHP First Edition" by Leon Atkinson.  It was more like
an encyclopedia/dictionary with some decent examples.

Around 2001 I started participating the general mailing list.  I haven't bought
another book on PHP since.  PHP.net manual, the php-general mailing list and the
wonderful members of this list, and Google have provided answers for all the
questions I have ever needed to ask since.

Jim Lucas

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Re: [PHP] book quest

[Shawn McKenzie]

On 09/28/2011 06:23 PM, Daniel Brown wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 19:13, Andy McKenzie  wrote:
>>
>> I agree with Bastien -- I've had great luck with the PHP books.
>> "Beginning PHP4" has a permanent place on my shelf, even though PHP4
>> is outdated.  "Beginning PHP5.3" hasn't quite supplanted it as a
>> concept book, but is my go-to for "here's a way to solve this
>> particular problem using a new version of PHP" book.
> 
> I'm still waiting for the day when folks on this list get together
> and say, "let's put all of our notes together, as beginners and
> intermediates, and put together a book for the newcomers, from the
> newcomers, by the newcomers, who can relate to them without the taint
> of overexperience."
> 
> If properly presented, it would not only be easy to shop to
> publishers, but it could also be one of the first truly collaborative
> publications to exist on biological remnants.
> 

Why are you waiting for the day Dan?  Just do it!

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RE: [PHP] book quest

[Christopher Lee]

I agree with Daniel. I would be willing to contribute to that type of 
collaborative initiative.

Best,

Christopher Lee

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Subject: Re: [PHP] book quest

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 19:13, Andy McKenzie  wrote:
>
> I agree with Bastien -- I've had great luck with the PHP books.
> "Beginning PHP4" has a permanent place on my shelf, even though PHP4
> is outdated.  "Beginning PHP5.3" hasn't quite supplanted it as a
> concept book, but is my go-to for "here's a way to solve this
> particular problem using a new version of PHP" book.

I'm still waiting for the day when folks on this list get together and say, 
"let's put all of our notes together, as beginners and intermediates, and put 
together a book for the newcomers, from the newcomers, by the newcomers, who 
can relate to them without the taint of overexperience."

If properly presented, it would not only be easy to shop to publishers, but 
it could also be one of the first truly collaborative publications to exist on 
biological remnants.

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Re: [PHP] book quest

[Daniel Brown]

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 19:13, Andy McKenzie  wrote:
>
> I agree with Bastien -- I've had great luck with the PHP books.
> "Beginning PHP4" has a permanent place on my shelf, even though PHP4
> is outdated.  "Beginning PHP5.3" hasn't quite supplanted it as a
> concept book, but is my go-to for "here's a way to solve this
> particular problem using a new version of PHP" book.

I'm still waiting for the day when folks on this list get together
and say, "let's put all of our notes together, as beginners and
intermediates, and put together a book for the newcomers, from the
newcomers, by the newcomers, who can relate to them without the taint
of overexperience."

If properly presented, it would not only be easy to shop to
publishers, but it could also be one of the first truly collaborative
publications to exist on biological remnants.

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Re: [PHP] book quest

[Andy McKenzie]

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Kirk Bailey  wrote:
> The best book for a beginner? No, don't tell me php.net, I hear that one
> already, and while it is indeed good, I want something in a dead tree
> edition I can canny around and smoke as needed.
>
> --
> end
>
> Very Truly yours,
>                 - Kirk Bailey,
>                   Largo Florida
>
>                       kniht
>                      +-+
>                      | BOX |
>                      +-+
>                       think
>
>
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>

I agree with Bastien -- I've had great luck with the PHP books.
"Beginning PHP4" has a permanent place on my shelf, even though PHP4
is outdated.  "Beginning PHP5.3" hasn't quite supplanted it as a
concept book, but is my go-to for "here's a way to solve this
particular problem using a new version of PHP" book.

-Andy

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Re: [PHP] book quest

[Bastien Koert]

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Kirk Bailey  wrote:
> The best book for a beginner? No, don't tell me php.net, I hear that one
> already, and while it is indeed good, I want something in a dead tree
> edition I can canny around and smoke as needed.
>
> --
> end
>
> Very Truly yours,
>                 - Kirk Bailey,
>                   Largo Florida
>
>                       kniht
>                      +-+
>                      | BOX |
>                      +-+
>                       think
>
>
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>

I had great success with Wrox PHP Programming and PHP Essentials by
Julie C. Meloni

The latter is dated, but was clearly written.



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Re: [PHP] Book site question

[AngeloZanetti]

bruce-60 wrote:
> 
> Hi List...
> 
> A little while ago... (in a land far away!!).. Someone posted some
> questions
> about a site he/she was creating having to do with textbooks... I'm trying
> to find that person to talk to them about what they were doing... I've
> searched my past emails but can't find it.. So, maybe I imagined it!!
> 
> I've got a situation where I'm going to be dealing with books, and it
> might
> be useful to talk with whoever was working on the app..
> 
> If this email finds you, and you were the person working on the app...
> Please get back to me!!
> 
> Thanks
> 
> -bruce
> 
> 
> 

Hi Bruce 

Did you try searching the archives?

http://www.Elemental.co.za http://www.Elemental.co.za 
http://www.wapit.co.za http://www.wapit.co.za 

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Re: [PHP] book on PHP security

[Richard Lynch]

On Wed, October 18, 2006 11:04 am, Angelo Zanetti wrote:
> can anyone recommend a really good book on security with PHP?

http://phpsec.org is also a must-read.

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Re: [PHP] book on PHP security

[Rory Browne]

Essencial PHP Security, Published by O'Reilly, and written by Chris Shiflett

I've never read it, but "Book", "PHP Security", and "Chris Shiflett" in the
same sentence means you're in for a treat.

Any serious discussion on this list security related generally involves a
request for input from Chris Shiflett.

On 10/18/06, Angelo Zanetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


HI,

can anyone recommend a really good book on security with PHP?

Thanks in advance

Re: [PHP] book on PHP security

[Ed Lazor]

essential PHP Security, by Chris Shiflett.  Pro PHP Security by Chris  
Snyder.



On Oct 18, 2006, at 9:04 AM, Angelo Zanetti wrote:


HI,

can anyone recommend a really good book on security with PHP?

Thanks in advance

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Re: [PHP] Book/Site for internernal PHP5 Core Developing

[Richard Lynch]

On Wed, April 26, 2006 4:54 am, Thomas Munz wrote:
> Does someone know a good Book/website for Develop own C-Extensions for
> PHP5?
>
> http://us2.php.net/manual/en/zend.php
> This site are just basic things, but i wanna do more things. Someone
> may help
> me?

There's a nice article Zend.com by Sara[h]? Coleman (|Goldman?|Coreman?)

Also a BUNCH of them on http://talks.php.net and http://conf.php.net

Those all seem pretty basic and similar, however...

I think you're at the bleeding edge commonly known as "Use the source,
Luke" :-^

I guess maybe start reading the source code to the smallest/simplest
extension you most understand.

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Re: [PHP] Book/Site for internernal PHP5 Core Developing

[chris smith]

On 4/26/06, Thomas Munz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hi list!
>
> Does someone know a good Book/website for Develop own C-Extensions for PHP5?
>
> http://us2.php.net/manual/en/zend.php
> This site are just basic things, but i wanna do more things. Someone may help
> me?

This might help you out:

http://pecl.php.net/support.php#resources

If not, the internals list would be able to help you a lot better
since they are the ones writing the C code in the first place..

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Re: [PHP] Book Sample Code Help

[Poppy Alexandra]

which doesn;t actually answer my question :-) you see I have my suspicions
about a book named 'Spidering Hacks' - if it was meat I doubt it would be
kosher or halal.




Hello Jochem

It's actually an interesting text with an evil name. I agree the title might 
sounds suspicious so to answer your question : no. No link farms or 
spambots, very much kosher and halal :)



I maintain several web sites so I battle spam and spambots on a daily basis, 
so I understand you being suspicious.


Thanks again for your help getting the code working.



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Re: [PHP] Book Sample Code Help

[Jochem Maas]

Poppy Alexandra wrote:

Please provide lines 89-91 of book-1.php only please.



humbug David :-) - turns out lines 89-91 will tell the OP nothing about
the error because the its the definition of function getBlock()
that is missing a closing brace (at around line 38) that si causing 
the error.



Thanks for the reply, it had really stumped me. I knew it would be an 
error with the bit I typed in :)


it usually is ;-)





once you add the missing brace the script works (at least it dumped a
load of content from http://www.techdeals.net/ onto my console).
by helping you get your sample code working are per chance hepling into
life yet another 'linkfarm' or some similarly SEO related nasty?



It's only sample code from a book. All of the examples are in Perl, 
except this particular code. I am new to PHP and wanted to try and run 
the code to see if it worked.


which doesn;t actually answer my question :-) you see I have my suspicions
about a book named 'Spidering Hacks' - if it was meat I doubt it would be
kosher or halal.



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Re: [PHP] Book Sample Code Help

[Poppy Alexandra]

it' not to find in the lines 89-91

You missed a " } " at the end of func "getBlock"


Hello Björn,

Thank you also for your reply. I appreciate your help.



 KEEP YOUR CODE CLEAN !!


This is sample code from a book. I am interested to know what you mean by 
clean code (formatting, conventions?). If you have any pointers how one 
should keep their code clean, I would like to learn. I am new to PHP. If 
this is off topic, apologies to the list.


Thank you. Pop

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Re: [PHP] Book Sample Code Help

[Poppy Alexandra]

Please provide lines 89-91 of book-1.php only please.


humbug David :-) - turns out lines 89-91 will tell the OP nothing about
the error because the its the definition of function getBlock()
that is missing a closing brace (at around line 38) that si causing the 
error.


Thanks for the reply, it had really stumped me. I knew it would be an error 
with the bit I typed in :)




once you add the missing brace the script works (at least it dumped a
load of content from http://www.techdeals.net/ onto my console).
by helping you get your sample code working are per chance hepling into
life yet another 'linkfarm' or some similarly SEO related nasty?


It's only sample code from a book. All of the examples are in Perl, except 
this particular code. I am new to PHP and wanted to try and run the code to 
see if it worked.


Thank you. Poppy

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Re: [PHP] Book Sample Code Help

[Jochem Maas]

David Grant wrote:

Poppy,

Poppy Alexandra wrote:


Parse error: parse error in book-1.php on line 90



Please provide lines 89-91 of book-1.php only please.


humbug David :-) - turns out lines 89-91 will tell the OP nothing about
the error because the its the definition of function getBlock()
that is missing a closing brace (at around line 38) that si causing the error.

once you add the missing brace the script works (at least it dumped a
load of content from http://www.techdeals.net/ onto my console).

by helping you get your sample code working are per chance hepling into
life yet another 'linkfarm' or some similarly SEO related nasty?

grds,
Jochem

PS  - 'Queen Alexandra' is a kind of poppy, apparently



David


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Re: [PHP] Book Sample Code Help

[David Grant]

Poppy,

Poppy Alexandra wrote:
> Parse error: parse error in book-1.php on line 90

Please provide lines 89-91 of book-1.php only please.

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[PHP] Re: PHP book recommendations>

[Manuel Lemos]

Hello,.
on 02/14/2005 02:37 PM Dave Bosky said the following:
I'm looking for an easy to read PHP book that will help me learn a solid
foundation in PHP.
I'm already familiar with the language but want to make sure I'm coding in
the most efficient manner.
What's a few of the better books out there?
It depends on your is your criteria of a better book.
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Re: [PHP] Re: PHP book recommendations>

[C.F. Scheidecker Antunes]

I've enjoyed Schlossnagle as I have it on my personal library.
Also I am finishing to read PHP 5 Power Programming from Prentice Hall 
and the creators of PHP.
If you want to learn coding style and coding good practices check out 
this book.
A cheap place to get books here in the US is bookpool.com

Jason Barnett wrote:
Dave Bosky wrote:
I'm looking for an easy to read PHP book that will help me learn a solid
foundation in PHP.
I'm already familiar with the language but want to make sure I'm 
coding in
the most efficient manner.

What's a few of the better books out there?

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[PHP] Re: PHP book recommendations>

[Ugo Bellavance]

Jason Barnett wrote:
Dave Bosky wrote:
I'm looking for an easy to read PHP book that will help me learn a solid
foundation in PHP.
I'm already familiar with the language but want to make sure I'm 
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What's a few of the better books out there?
Advanced PHP Programming by George Schlossnagle is for you.
I agree.  Very good book.
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[PHP] Re: PHP book recommendations>

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Dave Bosky wrote:
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Re: [PHP] Book recommendation

[Al]

John Nichel wrote:
Al wrote:
How can get "Edit/Mail & Newsgroups/Composition/defaults for Html" to 
work?

"Edit/Mail & Newsgroups/Send Format/Send in HTML is checked.
All newsgroups and emails default to plain small text.
Is this a bug, or am I missing something?
Thanks..
Huh?
Sorry everyone.  I was composing 2 messages, one for here and one for a Mozilla 
group, at the time and screwed up.  I immediately canceled this one; but, it 
apparently registered at you reader anyhow.

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Re: [PHP] Book recommendation

[John Holmes]

From: "Al" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
How can get "Edit/Mail & Newsgroups/Composition/defaults for Html" to 
work?

"Edit/Mail & Newsgroups/Send Format/Send in HTML is checked.
All newsgroups and emails default to plain small text.
Is this a bug, or am I missing something?
I think we're all missing something here, like what you're talking about. 
What's this got to do with "Book recommendation"??

I'm consulting my crystal ball, though, and it says that you're trying to 
send HTML messages to a newsgroup or mailing list (hopefully the PHP one), 
right? And you're wondering why it comes across as plain text, right? And 
your great-grandmother had white..err, wait, wrong crystal ball.

Anyhow... plain text is the preferred method of sending to newsgroups and 
mailing lists, especially this one. HTML is usually stripped (along with 
attachments) before it's posted. HTML messages are become bloated with all 
of the markup and can present security/privacy issues depending upon the 
code and the viewers email client.

Bottom line: use plain text.
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Re: [PHP] Book recommendation

[John Nichel]

Al wrote:
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"Edit/Mail & Newsgroups/Send Format/Send in HTML is checked.
All newsgroups and emails default to plain small text.
Is this a bug, or am I missing something?
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Re: [PHP] Book Required

[Stephen Allen]

On Sat, Jul 17, 2004 at 02:59:56AM -0500 or thereabouts, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I agree that PHP & MySQL Web Development (By Luke Welling and Laura 
> Thompson) is a great resource for learning PHP.  Armed with that book 
> and the online PHP manual (with user comments), and you're on your way 
> to being a well-informed developer.
> 
> The second edition (2003) covers PHP 4.3, so it's still quite useful... 
> I'm pretty sure the third edition will be written to cover 5.0.

I agree the foregoing is an excellent book -- BUT, not for beginners. When
beginners are asking for a good book, that assumes they know nothing, and has a
very good teaching manner, I always recommend a Visual Quick Start book.

One such book is "Larry Ullman's PHP for the World Wide Web" second editon. It's
published by Peachpit Press, so the proofreading is of an excellent calibre.

I'm not in any way affliated with Larry Ullman, just a satisfied purchaser.

PHP & MySQL Web Developement is a good reference book, but not a beginners book,
unless one has prior experience in programming. I would add this book to my
libray after reading and completing a beginner's book.

I think many of you gurus, have been too far removed from the beginners learning
thought process, which is a natural thing. No offense intended.

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Re: [PHP] Book Required

[janet]

In a message dated 7/18/2004 2:58:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
Programming PHP by O`Reilly :)
>> 
>>Write-up says it STILL uses MySQL as it's database material ;(
>> 
>> I don't know what Write-up you are refering to. The book is not tied to
>> MySQL. It mentions it only as one of the many databases that PHP supports.
>> The examples that I see, unless I missed something, on accessing a database
>> from PHP use PEAR DB. So, I think this Write-up is misleading.
>
>http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/progphp/desc.html

I'm still apparently not understanding what you mean by non-MySQL. I looked
at the write-up at the link above and the only sentence I found in the entire
write-up that mentioned MySQL was the following:

Material on interacting with relational databases, such as MySQL and Oracle,
using the database-independent PEAR DB library 

This sentence says that the book uses PEAR DB, not MySQL. It is database
independent. From your other comments, I have the impression you don't want
to use this book for other reasons, such as preferring ADOdb to PEAR DB. But
I don't understand why you think this book is focussed on MySQL.

I'm sorry to go on about this. I'm just concerned that someone reading these
messages might be considering buying Programming PHP and get the impression
that it is a PHP and MySQL book. It is not. It is database independent. I'm
quite sure about this. I know this book well. I love it. I use this book
almost every day.

I promise I won't write any more on this subject.

Janet

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Re: [PHP] Book Required

[Lester Caine]

Jason Barnett wrote:
This - I think - highlights the problem. *I* have been programing for 
25+ years, but only switched to PHP last year. I decided not to worry 
I would love to hear why you switched... although some might consider it 
"off topic".
All of my systems last century used Borland C++ and then Builder ( I 
never switched TO Delphi ;) ) Just like Borland's decision in 1999 to 
kill Interbase, their latest move to 'kill' BuilderC has left a bad 
taste in every Borland old timers mouth!
At the same time more pressure was coming to remove the use of 
proprietary code on terminals, so a switch to web based access has been 
happening over the last couple of years. After playing with a number of 
options, Apache/PHP/Firebird settled as a good base that would run on 
Windows for those sites that insisted, or Linux for those already converted.
I recently did a paper on Firebird and PHP at the Firebird conference, 
at which time a check back through the facts only improved the belief 
that I have made the right choice.

too much about PHP4, and have only run with the Beta PHP5. PEAR DB was 
kicked in touch early on - ADOdb does everything I want, and is used 
by every third party package I use. 
SNIP
I'd also add PEAR to your list.  In general their libraries are very 
well written and serve as a good example codebase for PHP5.
No thanks - someone will have to do a VERY good sales pitch on that now, 
it was a right pig last year, and now I can't be bothered to waste any 
more time on it :)
The OTHER reason PHP was the right choice is the vast range of open 
source packages available that have proven to work easily with ADOdb and 
Firebird.

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Re: [PHP] Book Required

[Jason Barnett]

This - I think - highlights the problem. *I* have been programing for 
25+ years, but only switched to PHP last year. I decided not to worry 
I would love to hear why you switched... although some might consider it "off 
topic".

too much about PHP4, and have only run with the Beta PHP5. PEAR DB was 
kicked in touch early on - ADOdb does everything I want, and is used by 
every third party package I use. MySQL has never had the facilities I 
have grown used to with Interbase/Firebird for the last several years, 
and it will be another year (or more) before they add the power that 
Firebird has in the engine with stored procedures, triggers and events - 
removing the need for a lot of in-line coding, and helping to load share.

Bottom line, the on-line articles and examples are always going to be 
more use than a book, and the PHP manual is probably one of the best 
pieces of on-line material available :)

I'd also add PEAR to your list.  In general their libraries are very well 
written and serve as a good example codebase for PHP5.

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Re: [PHP] Book Required

[Lester Caine]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Programming PHP by O`Reilly :)

Write-up says it STILL uses MySQL as it's database material ;(
I don't know what Write-up you are refering to. The book is not tied to
MySQL. It mentions it only as one of the many databases that PHP supports.
The examples that I see, unless I missed something, on accessing a database
from PHP use PEAR DB. So, I think this Write-up is misleading.
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/progphp/desc.html
Programming PHP an excellent book.
Probably, but given the stuff listed on the Full Description, I don't 
think it is worth my money ;)

It's not clear to me what you mean by NON MYSQL books, so I don't know what
to recommend. There are other books that teach PHP without focusing on MySQL.
 For instance, Core PHP programming has chapters for several different
databases. PHP Developer's Cookbook shows how to make your programs database
independent. PHP cookbook mainly shows database access using PEAR DB. PHP
Bible focuses on MySQL and Oracle when showing how to write scripts for
database use. There are others. 
This - I think - highlights the problem. *I* have been programing for 
25+ years, but only switched to PHP last year. I decided not to worry 
too much about PHP4, and have only run with the Beta PHP5. PEAR DB was 
kicked in touch early on - ADOdb does everything I want, and is used by 
every third party package I use. MySQL has never had the facilities I 
have grown used to with Interbase/Firebird for the last several years, 
and it will be another year (or more) before they add the power that 
Firebird has in the engine with stored procedures, triggers and events - 
removing the need for a lot of in-line coding, and helping to load share.

Bottom line, the on-line articles and examples are always going to be 
more use than a book, and the PHP manual is probably one of the best 
pieces of on-line material available :)

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Re: [PHP] Book Required

[janet]

In a message dated 7/17/2004 11:25:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>Tularis wrote:

>> Programming PHP by O`Reilly :)

>Write-up says it STILL uses MySQL as it's database material ;(

I don't know what Write-up you are refering to. The book is not tied to
MySQL. It mentions it only as one of the many databases that PHP supports.
The examples that I see, unless I missed something, on accessing a database
from PHP use PEAR DB. So, I think this Write-up is misleading.

Programming PHP an excellent book.

It's not clear to me what you mean by NON MYSQL books, so I don't know what
to recommend. There are other books that teach PHP without focusing on MySQL.
 For instance, Core PHP programming has chapters for several different
databases. PHP Developer's Cookbook shows how to make your programs database
independent. PHP cookbook mainly shows database access using PEAR DB. PHP
Bible focuses on MySQL and Oracle when showing how to write scripts for
database use. There are others. 

>Since I'm pushing PHP5 into all new sites, I'll wait for a PHP5 book :)

There are PHP 5 books available now. Already. For instance, Learning PHP 5 by
Sklar and PHP 5 Fast and Easy Web Development by Meloni. Core PHP programming
discusses PHP 5. And others. More PHP 5 books are due any day that you can
pre-order at Amazon or elsewhere. 

If you are looking for a PHP 5 non-MySQL book, PHP 5 for Dummies is available
now and is not focused on MySQL. It has examples in the database access
chapter from MySQL, Oracle, PostgreSQL, and others. And shows how to use PEAR
DB. 

Janet 



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[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

I agree that PHP & MySQL Web Development (By Luke Welling and Laura 
Thompson) is a great resource for learning PHP.  Armed with that book 
and the online PHP manual (with user comments), and you're on your way 
to being a well-informed developer.

The second edition (2003) covers PHP 4.3, so it's still quite useful... 
I'm pretty sure the third edition will be written to cover 5.0.

Dan
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PHP & MySQL Web Development is a pretty good one.  It does a good job of
giving a fairly thorough explanation on things, considering the broad range
of topics to be covered.  I never have really been a fan of the "Fast and
Easy... " series, or the "Learn * In 24 Hours" series.
Will
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Morning
There's loads and loads of books available on the subject of PHP & MySQL.
Does anyone have any recommendations...?
 

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[Will Collins]

I apologize for requesting a read receipt.  Won't happen again - I hope. :)

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PHP & MySQL Web Development is a pretty good one.  It does a good job of
giving a fairly thorough explanation on things, considering the broad range
of topics to be covered.  I never have really been a fan of the "Fast and
Easy... " series, or the "Learn * In 24 Hours" series.

Will

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Morning

There's loads and loads of books available on the subject of PHP & MySQL.

Does anyone have any recommendations...?

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Re: [PHP] Book Required

[Chris]

Harlequin wrote:
Morning
There's loads and loads of books available on the subject of PHP & MySQL.
Does anyone have any recommendations...?
 

PHP and MySQL Web Development by Luke Welling and Laura Thomson has 
always been my favorite.

http://www.samspublishing.com/title/067232525X
That's the 2nd edition (3rd is coming out in October). I have the 1st 
edition, I would assume the 2nd and 3rd would be just as well written.

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RE: [PHP] Book Required

[Will Collins]

PHP & MySQL Web Development is a pretty good one.  It does a good job of
giving a fairly thorough explanation on things, considering the broad range
of topics to be covered.  I never have really been a fan of the "Fast and
Easy... " series, or the "Learn * In 24 Hours" series.

Will

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Morning

There's loads and loads of books available on the subject of PHP & MySQL.

Does anyone have any recommendations...?

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Re: [PHP] Book: Web Database Applications with PHP and MySQL

[David Garcia Aristegui]

I like it, i think it's the best for beguinners, and it's fine try to work with"real" 
examples...

At 10:41 30/04/2002 +0100, Mark Harwood wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>Has anyone got a copy of this book yet?  If so, what do you think of it?
>
>Mark
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Re: [PHP] Book database (slightly OT)

[Erik Price]

On Tuesday, January 29, 2002, at 11:38  PM, Boaz Yahav wrote:

> Why not simply look the ISBN up in one of the big online shops and take
> the data from there?
> Amazon? B&N?
>
> It all depends on what you will do with the data I guess...
>

A good idea, but if you're running a commercial site of some kind there 
are legal implications for using one site's content in another without 
permission.

I seem to remember this being an issue between a smaller flight 
fare-finder site and Travelocity.com -- the former had written a clever 
Perl script or something that used content from the latter.  It was in 
the papers.


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RE: [PHP] Book database (slightly OT)

[Boaz Yahav]

Why not simply look the ISBN up in one of the big online shops and take
the data from there?
Amazon? B&N?

It all depends on what you will do with the data I guess...

Sincerely

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Steve Edberg
Subject: Re: [PHP] Book database (slightly OT)


From: "Steve Edberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Perhaps the Library of Congress??
>
> http://www.loc.gov/z3950/
>
> You could hack the web interface, but it would be more efficient
to
> query the database directly using the Z.39.50 stateful protocol:
see
>
> http://lcweb.loc.gov/z3950/gateway.html#about
> and
> http://www.niso.org/standards/resources/Z3950_Resources.html
>
> among other places. You could probably write a pretty decent
> interface using PHP's socket functions, but it would be more
> efficient to write a PHP extension for it - depending on how
intense
> your searches were. That was on my to-do list for a project a few
> years ago, but I'm no longer working on that.

It seems that you are or have been a librarian. Have you ever tried
http://php.net/yaz ?

-Egon


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Re: [PHP] Book database (slightly OT)

[Egon Schmid]

From: "Steve Edberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Perhaps the Library of Congress??
>
> http://www.loc.gov/z3950/
>
> You could hack the web interface, but it would be more efficient
to
> query the database directly using the Z.39.50 stateful protocol:
see
>
> http://lcweb.loc.gov/z3950/gateway.html#about
> and
> http://www.niso.org/standards/resources/Z3950_Resources.html
>
> among other places. You could probably write a pretty decent
> interface using PHP's socket functions, but it would be more
> efficient to write a PHP extension for it - depending on how
intense
> your searches were. That was on my to-do list for a project a few
> years ago, but I'm no longer working on that.

It seems that you are or have been a librarian. Have you ever tried
http://php.net/yaz ?

-Egon


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Re: [PHP] Book database (slightly OT)

[Steve Edberg]

Perhaps the Library of Congress??

http://www.loc.gov/z3950/

You could hack the web interface, but it would be more efficient to 
query the database directly using the Z.39.50 stateful protocol: see

http://lcweb.loc.gov/z3950/gateway.html#about
and
http://www.niso.org/standards/resources/Z3950_Resources.html

among other places. You could probably write a pretty decent 
interface using PHP's socket functions, but it would be more 
efficient to write a PHP extension for it - depending on how intense 
your searches were. That was on my to-do list for a project a few 
years ago, but I'm no longer working on that.

-steve



At 4:32 PM -0500 1/29/02, Reuben D Budiardja wrote:
>Hi,
>I am working on a projects for book cataloging. What I want to do is to input
>all the books isbn to a mysql table, either by hand or by scanning it, and
>then let php go through those data and add more info such as tittle, author,
>publisher, etc.
>
>Now, the real question is, does anyone know is there any database / services
>out there that I can query using isbn, that will return me a parse-able info
>for this purpose?
>I am looking for service that is free, if possible, since this project is not
>for commercial at all (academic purposes).
>
>Any information on this will be greatly appreciated.
>
>Thanks.
>Reuben D. Budiardja
>


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Re: [PHP] Book.

[Knut H. Hassel Nielsen]

Remember #!/usr/local/bin/php -q
 ^^^
This will quell any http-headers, and give you clean output.
(provided you wite your script right ;) )

On Thu, 20 Dec 2001, Bas van Rooijen wrote:

>
>
> No not CGI, binary (instead of apache module).
>
> - Just leave out the --with-apache part when you do configure.
>
> by default 'make install' will put the php binary in /usr/local/bin
>
> - On top of your PHP script add the following line:
> #!/usr/local/bin/php
>
> - Make sure you don't use MS-DOS (but UNIX) style text files,
> PHP doesn't care but for that first line it may be important.
>
> - PHP open/close tags  still apply
>
>
> bvr.
>
> On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 15:07:21 -0800 (PST), Mehmet Kamil ERISEN wrote:
>
> >Hi,
> >I think I'm misunderstood.  I do not want to run in cgi
> >mode.
> >Thanks,
> >Mehmet.
> >--- Mart¡n Marqu‚s <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > information on how to run PHP from Unix, as a cron job,
> >> how
> >> > can PHP scripts be called from Shell Scripts etc...
> >>
> >> You need to compile PHP without web-server support, for
> >> cgi. In that case you
> >> will get a binary file, and you can use just like you use
> >> perl or bash for
> >> making scripts.
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [PHP] Book.

[Bas van Rooijen]

No not CGI, binary (instead of apache module).

- Just leave out the --with-apache part when you do configure.

by default 'make install' will put the php binary in /usr/local/bin

- On top of your PHP script add the following line:
#!/usr/local/bin/php

- Make sure you don't use MS-DOS (but UNIX) style text files,
PHP doesn't care but for that first line it may be important.

- PHP open/close tags  still apply


bvr.

On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 15:07:21 -0800 (PST), Mehmet Kamil ERISEN wrote:

>Hi,
>I think I'm misunderstood.  I do not want to run in cgi
>mode.
>Thanks,
>Mehmet.
>--- Mart¡n Marqu‚s <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > information on how to run PHP from Unix, as a cron job,
>> how
>> > can PHP scripts be called from Shell Scripts etc...
>>
>> You need to compile PHP without web-server support, for
>> cgi. In that case you
>> will get a binary file, and you can use just like you use
>> perl or bash for
>> making scripts.




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Re: [PHP] Book.

[Mehmet Kamil ERISEN]

Hi,
I think I'm misunderstood.  I do not want to run in cgi
mode.
Thanks,
Mehmet.
--- Martín Marqués <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mié 19 Dic 2001 19:14, you wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > I have a good understanding of PHP.  I like to read
> more
> > documentation advanced PHP topics and also some more
> > information on how to run PHP from Unix, as a cron job,
> how
> > can PHP scripts be called from Shell Scripts etc...
> 
> You need to compile PHP without web-server support, for
> cgi. In that case you 
> will get a binary file, and you can use just like you use
> perl or bash for 
> making scripts.
> 
> For the developers: Is there a posibility of adding some
> ability for 
> compilation of, for example, apache and binary stand
> alone php?
> 
> -- 
> Porqué usar una base de datos relacional cualquiera,
> si podés usar PostgreSQL?
>
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Re: [PHP] Book.

[Martín Marqués]

On Mié 19 Dic 2001 19:14, you wrote:
> Hi All,
> I have a good understanding of PHP.  I like to read more
> documentation advanced PHP topics and also some more
> information on how to run PHP from Unix, as a cron job, how
> can PHP scripts be called from Shell Scripts etc...

You need to compile PHP without web-server support, for cgi. In that case you 
will get a binary file, and you can use just like you use perl or bash for 
making scripts.

For the developers: Is there a posibility of adding some ability for 
compilation of, for example, apache and binary stand alone php?

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RE: [PHP] Book

[Matt Williams]

> I just got the book entitled "PHP and MySQL web development" by Luke
> Wellington and Luara Thomson.
>
> I wondering how others liked the book...I haven't gotten a chance to look
> at it yet..and I'm wondering if i should :-)

Now that you've got it you might as well read it. Then you could tell us
what it's like :-)

M@


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Re: [PHP] Book

[Data Driven Design]

If you own it you should read it.

Data Driven Design
1506 Tuscaloosa Ave
Holly Hill, Florida 32117

http://www.datadrivendesign.com
Phone: (386) 226-8979

Websites That WORK For You
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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 10:40 AM
Subject: [PHP] Book


> I just got the book entitled "PHP and MySQL web development" by Luke
> Wellington and Luara Thomson.
>
> I wondering how others liked the book...I haven't gotten a chance to look
> at it yet..and I'm wondering if i should :-)
>
> ~kurth
>
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Re: [PHP] book help

[Alexander Deruwe]

On Thursday 06 September 2001 16:35, Nikola Veber wrote:
> Can anyone who has this book suggest what chapters should
> I read first or which topics on php are the most apropriate for a beginner.

You shouldn't use the cookbook in that way. Try like this: You are writing 
whatever application it is you are writing, and you come across problem X 
dealing with stuff about Y. What you do now is browse through the very first 
section of the book, called "Contents at a Glance". Look for the header 
concerning Y, then look on for a solution to problem X.

Most problems you will encounter as a newbie are indeed touched upon by this 
book, and when that is not the case, there is the internet.

> My only php resources are internet and this book.

Great. That combination should get you well underway.

ad.

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RE: [PHP] book help - where is O'Reilly's PHP Programming???

[Leone, Brian]

What I have been waiting for is an O'Reilly book on PHP and today I just
discovered that Rasmus supposedly edited it for them (titled, "PHP
Programming"), and was supposed to be published at the beginning of the
summer.  However, both Amazon.com and BN.com say it still hasn't been
published.  Does anyone know the status of this book?  I'm sure it will be
the best book on PHP!
Thanks,
Brian


> -Original Message-
> From: Nikola Veber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 10:36 AM
> To: php forum
> Subject: [PHP] book help
> 
> 
> I am a begginer in php and I have bought the Sterling
> Huges' "php developer's cookbook" since it was the only
> book I could find. Is it a good choise ?
> 

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RE: [PHP] book help

[Chris Bailey]

There is a ton of great stuff online as someone else mentioned.  You might
also want to check out phpbuilder.com, and zend.com for their various
articles and tutorials.

As for books, depending on what you're after, I highly recommend:
"PHP and MySQL Web Development" by Welling and Thomson.  This is also a book
that is selling super well.  I've read it nearly cover to cover and thought
it was great.  By a "beginner in PHP" I'm not sure if that means you're only
a beginner at PHP (i.e. you have experience with other languages).  I use a
lot of other languages so I blew through the language tutorial parts pretty
quickly, so not sure how that stacks up to say some of the WROX books or
various others.

You might also want to read the reader reviews on Amazon, that's how I found
out about the above book.

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Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 10:36 AM
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Subject: [PHP] book help


I am a begginer in php and I have bought the Sterling
Huges' "php developer's cookbook" since it was the only
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Re: [PHP] book help

[Tomasz Abramowicz]

http://www.php.net/books.php
hihi
t.
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Subject: [PHP] book help


> I am a begginer in php and I have bought the Sterling 
> Huges' "php developer's cookbook" since it was the only 
> book I could find. Is it a good choise ? 
> 
> 
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RE: [PHP] book help

[Jerry Lake]

since it was the only book you could
find, that makes it a good choice by
default, if you ask me. you can also
visit www.devshed.com for some great
tutorials.

Regards,

Jerry Lake 
Interface Engineering Technician



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Subject: [PHP] book help


I am a begginer in php and I have bought the Sterling 
Huges' "php developer's cookbook" since it was the only 
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Re: [PHP] Book (and DVD) Database

[Aaron Bennett]

How about DVDs? Unfortunatly, sitting at work right now, i'm not able to
pick up a stack of dvd's and look for a unique number.. Do they have ISBN?
is there a central repository to search for pertinant info (and parse it)?
just wondering,
Aaron
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> The Library of Congress web site is good for that sort of thing. You can
> search for an ISBN and have returned a formatted MARC record/etc which is
> fairly easy to parse. I don't have code anymore, but I did exactly this at
> one time.
>
> c
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Reuben D Budiardja [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 10:55 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [PHP] Book Database
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> > I'm doing project using php that will allow me to enter an
> > ISBN number of a
> > book, and put that book info into my database.
> >
> > Is there any free book database out there that I can query
> > using ISBN, and
> > will return me the info such as the title, author, publisher?
> > If I can just
> > get the title and author, that would be great.
> >
> > Thanks.
> > Reuben D. Budiardja
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RE: [PHP] Book Database

[Chris Lott]

The Library of Congress web site is good for that sort of thing. You can
search for an ISBN and have returned a formatted MARC record/etc which is
fairly easy to parse. I don't have code anymore, but I did exactly this at
one time.

c

> -Original Message-
> From: Reuben D Budiardja [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 10:55 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [PHP] Book Database
> 
> 
> 
> Hi,
> I'm doing project using php that will allow me to enter an 
> ISBN number of a 
> book, and put that book info into my database. 
> 
> Is there any free book database out there that I can query 
> using ISBN, and 
> will return me the info such as the title, author, publisher? 
> If I can just 
> get the title and author, that would be great.
> 
> Thanks.
> Reuben D. Budiardja
> 
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Re: [PHP] Book PHP4 Professional WROX & Mail over SMTP

[Manuel Lemos]

Hello Andreas,

On 11-May-01 13:58:13, you wrote:

>Hi there,

>I bought this book tryed it for 2 days now to bring the Mail over SMTP
>example to work.

>It doesn' t work at all.

>Does anybody have a class for sending E-Mails over SMTP? This really drives
>me mad. It should not
>be so complicated to send E-Mails over the net.

Look here:

http://phpclasses.UpperDesign.com/browse.html/package/14

http://phpclasses.UpperDesign.com/browse.html/package/9


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Manuel Lemos

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RE: [PHP] Book PHP4 Professional WROX & Mail over SMTP

[Altunergil, Oktay]

I remember there was somebody who had a mail class and when I asked him to
he had added a similar functionality to his class that made it possible to
use another smtp domain to send email.

I'm very sorry that the above is the only info I have now. It was months
ago. Just wanted to let you know that it's out there or at least doable.

Oktay Altunergil


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To: Php (E-mail)
Subject: [PHP] Book PHP4 Professional WROX & Mail over SMTP


Hi there,

I bought this book tryed it for 2 days now to bring the Mail over SMTP
example to work.

It doesn' t work at all.

Does anybody have a class for sending E-Mails over SMTP? This really drives
me mad. It should not
be so complicated to send E-Mails over the net.

Can anybody please help me out?

Thanx in advance.

Cheers

Andy


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Re: [PHP] Book Question - PHP and MySQL Web Development

[Luke Welling]

Egon Wrote:
> On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 01:24:02AM +1000, Luke Welling wrote:
>
> > I was wondering if anybody out there who has a copy of my book has found
any
> > errors.
> >
> > If you have noticed any errors in "PHP and MySQL Web Development" by
Luke
> > Welling and Laura Thomson, and have a second, could you drop me an
email?
> >
> > I don't think there will be too many, but I would like to get anything
> > possible fixed for the second printing.
>
> Can you provide a link to a bugs page? If I get something like that, I
> will link it under "more infos" on the books page on php.net.
>
> This works very well with our German PHP book and the second printing is
> on the way.
That sounds like an excellent idea.  It will be a very short page today, but
I am sure it will grow.
http://www.tangledweb.com.au/errata.php

Thanks.

Luke Welling.



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Re: [PHP] Book Question - PHP and MySQL Web Development

[eschmid+sic]

On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 01:24:02AM +1000, Luke Welling wrote:

> I was wondering if anybody out there who has a copy of my book has found any
> errors.
> 
> If you have noticed any errors in "PHP and MySQL Web Development" by Luke
> Welling and Laura Thomson, and have a second, could you drop me an email?
> 
> I don't think there will be too many, but I would like to get anything
> possible fixed for the second printing.

Can you provide a link to a bugs page? If I get something like that, I
will link it under "more infos" on the books page on php.net.

This works very well with our German PHP book and the second printing is
on the way.

-Egon

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