Re: KDE version in Lenny: KDE 3.5.9 vs KDE 4.1

2008-06-09 Thread Alejandro Exojo
El Lunes, 9 de Junio de 2008, Modestas Vainius escribió: > 5) (That's my personal opinion). Frankly, Debian *stable* (by definition) > is not and has never been a good desktop distribution for people who care > about newer software. Use other branches of Debian for that (e.g. testing). +1 People

The next thrilling episode of "KDE version in Lenny: KDE 3.5.9 vs KDE 4.1"

2008-06-09 Thread Matthew Rosewarne
{Backstory: I've been away from every sort of hacking for a few months now, but very soon will be able to devote some real time again. Meanwhile, I've tried (not always successfully) to keep quiet about concerns I wasn't actually helping to solve.} While there are valid concerns with matters o

Re: KDE version in Lenny: KDE 3.5.9 vs KDE 4.1

2008-06-09 Thread Modestas Vainius
Hi, Monday 09 June 2008, Miguel Figueiredo rašė: > It may not be feasible and/or wished for kde but we do have sets of > packages where versions coexist together, You can use almost all KDE3 applications with KDE4 desktop except "the desktop core" ones like kicker, konqueror, kdesktop etc. > li

Re: KDE4 in Debian and where and when

2008-06-09 Thread Ana Guerrero
Hi Matthieu, I am not sure to understand all the points of your mail, but here goes a try to reply. On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 10:55:27PM +0200, GALLIEN Matthieu wrote: > Hi all > I would like to add my opinion to that question. > I am an happy Debian powerpc port user for 3 years and half. > I have

KDE4 in Debian and where and when

2008-06-09 Thread GALLIEN Matthieu
Hi all I would like to add my opinion to that question. I am an happy Debian powerpc port user for 3 years and half. I have an old iBook G4. I am not able to test kde4.1 beta 1 in Debian without building myself the debian packages or from kde svn. I do not want to build it on my old iBook, so what

Re: KDE version in Lenny: KDE 3.5.9 vs KDE 4.1

2008-06-09 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
El Monday 09 June 2008 16:40:07 Miguel Figueiredo escribió: > A Monday 09 June 2008 20:05:14, Ana Guerrero escreveu: > > [...] > > > You have 2 versions of every program: 2 konqueror, 2 kopete, etc. Some > > distributions have handled install both version using non-standard paths, > > that is not a

Re: KDE version in Lenny: KDE 3.5.9 vs KDE 4.1

2008-06-09 Thread Miguel Figueiredo
A Monday 09 June 2008 20:05:14, Ana Guerrero escreveu: [...] > You have 2 versions of every program: 2 konqueror, 2 kopete, etc. Some > distributions have handled install both version using non-standard paths, > that is not allowed in Debian and usually revert the changes made too much > problems

Re: KDE version in Lenny: KDE 3.5.9 vs KDE 4.1

2008-06-09 Thread Tom Albers
Op maandag 09 juni 2008 21:05 schreef u: > KDE 4.1 has not been released yet and it does not look like it will be ready > on > time. What do you know that I don't? Tom KDE Release Team-- http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-kde-talk

Re: KDE version in Lenny: KDE 3.5.9 vs KDE 4.1

2008-06-09 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 09:07:41PM +0200, Tom Albers wrote: > Op maandag 09 juni 2008 21:05 schreef u: > > KDE 4.1 has not been released yet and it does not look like it will be > > ready on > > time. > > What do you know that I don't? > Toma, I was talking about being on time to be on Lenny and

Re: KDE version in Lenny: KDE 3.5.9 vs KDE 4.1

2008-06-09 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 09:05:14PM +0200, Ana Guerrero wrote: > On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 07:30:24PM +0100, Miguel Figueiredo wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > KDE3 it's upstream 'dead' and KDE4 it's the current KDE. > > Is it possible to let each user choose which KDE he/she wants to use? > > > > No,

Re: KDE version in Lenny: KDE 3.5.9 vs KDE 4.1

2008-06-09 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 07:30:24PM +0100, Miguel Figueiredo wrote: > Hello all, > > KDE3 it's upstream 'dead' and KDE4 it's the current KDE. > Is it possible to let each user choose which KDE he/she wants to use? > No, we ship either KDE 3 or KDE 4. KDE 3 is not fully dead, there is security sup

KDE version in Lenny: KDE 3.5.9 vs KDE 4.1

2008-06-09 Thread Miguel Figueiredo
Hello all, KDE3 it's upstream 'dead' and KDE4 it's the current KDE. Is it possible to let each user choose which KDE he/she wants to use? I mean, anything prevents to release KDE 3.x and KDE 4.x ? Com os melhores cumprimentos/Best regards, Miguel Figueiredo http://www.DebianPT.org -- http

Re: KDE version in Lenny: KDE 3.5.9 vs KDE 4.1

2008-06-09 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 10:03:50PM +0200, Ana Guerrero wrote: > proposal is shipping KDE 3.5.9 with the KDE 4.1 development > platform: kde4libs, kdepimlibs and kdebase-runtime. > For the record, after quick talk in IRC, we are finally going for KDE 3.5.9 in Lenny. Ana -- http://lists.alioth

Re: KDE version in Lenny: KDE 3.5.9 vs KDE 4.1

2008-06-09 Thread Fathi Boudra
> You can be assured that with corporate users, the decision process about IT > deployments is more sophisticated than "let's take this Linux CD, click > on 'Desktop', and see what happens". > We don't have only corporate users. By the way, some IT deployments are "let's use default not more". I

Re: KDE version in Lenny: KDE 3.5.9 vs KDE 4.1

2008-06-09 Thread Fathi Boudra
Hi, Maybe a bit late in the talk. Well, I'll express my opinion anyway ;) stable users deserve a stable, well tested, rock solid KDE desktop. KDE 4.1 is fine for power users and early KDE 4 adopters. It contains some minor glitches and is not a complete KDE3 replacement yet. Despite the fact tha