Re: Comments regarding pd-arraysize_0.1-1_amd64.changes

2010-11-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 8, 2010, at 6:12 AM, Felipe Sateler wrote: On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 07:57, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 11:21:54AM +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Sun, 2010-11-07 at 14:00 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Additionally, expr is GPL and arraysize is public domain,

Re: Comments regarding pd-arraysize_0.1-1_amd64.changes

2010-11-08 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 08:12:06AM -0300, Felipe Sateler wrote: On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 07:57, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 11:21:54AM +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Sun, 2010-11-07 at 14:00 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Additionally, expr is GPL and arraysize is pu

Re: Comments regarding pd-arraysize_0.1-1_amd64.changes

2010-11-08 Thread Felipe Sateler
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 07:57, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 11:21:54AM +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote: >> >> On Sun, 2010-11-07 at 14:00 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >>> >>> Additionally, expr is GPL and arraysize is public domain, so some people >>> will use arraysize for

Re: Comments regarding pd-arraysize_0.1-1_amd64.changes

2010-11-08 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 11:21:54AM +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Sun, 2010-11-07 at 14:00 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Additionally, expr is GPL and arraysize is public domain, so some people will use arraysize for that reason (i.e. a proprietary app based on Pd like rjdj). Good poin

Re: Comments regarding pd-arraysize_0.1-1_amd64.changes

2010-11-08 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sun, 2010-11-07 at 14:00 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > On Nov 5, 2010, at 7:01 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > I'm interested to hear other opinions on this. > pd-arraysize is a special case, not an example of how to do things. > There are plenty of simple packages in Debian, like simp

Re: Comments regarding pd-arraysize_0.1-1_amd64.changes

2010-11-08 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-11-07 19:57, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >> >> i would sugggest to use a "Suggests: pd-pddp" at the most. > > > First off, its key to mention to those not familiar with Pd: the help > patches are fully functional scripts, not just static documentation. So yes, thanks for making the cl

Re: Comments regarding pd-arraysize_0.1-1_amd64.changes

2010-11-08 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-11-07 19:57, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > >> i think this is to be discussed on this list. >> i don't know whether it's good practice, and esp. i don't know whether >> its worse practice than creating a debian package for 2 smallish files. > > It is not good practice, it is a special ca

Re: Comments regarding pd-arraysize_0.1-1_amd64.changes

2010-11-08 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Sun, Nov 07, 2010 at 01:57:26PM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Nov 5, 2010, at 6:16 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: On 11/05/2010 04:51 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: i'd probably go for a "pd-plugins-misc" (name to be discussed) package that distributes a number of _trivial_ 3r

Re: Comments regarding pd-arraysize_0.1-1_amd64.changes

2010-11-07 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 5, 2010, at 6:16 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/05/2010 04:51 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: i'd probably go for a "pd-plugins-misc" (name to be discussed) package that distributes a number of _trivial_ 3rd party objects ("trivi

Re: Comments regarding pd-arraysize_0.1-1_amd64.changes

2010-11-07 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 5, 2010, at 7:01 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 19:10 -0300, Felipe Sateler wrote: On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 00:51, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: As for packaging pd-arraysize together with other things, as far as I know, it is not Debian practice to lump together di

Re: Comments regarding pd-arraysize_0.1-1_amd64.changes

2010-11-05 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 19:10 -0300, Felipe Sateler wrote: > On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 00:51, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > As for packaging pd-arraysize together with other things, as far as I > > know, it is not Debian practice to lump together different upstream > > projects into a single packa

Re: Comments regarding pd-arraysize_0.1-1_amd64.changes

2010-11-05 Thread Felipe Sateler
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 00:51, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 00:10 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: >> On 2010-11-04 22:51, Felipe Sateler wrote: >> >> >> Yeah, it is annoying for sure.  The problem is that this particular object >> >> is widely used and has been distribute

Re: Comments regarding pd-arraysize_0.1-1_amd64.changes

2010-11-05 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/05/2010 04:51 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >> >> i'd probably go for a "pd-plugins-misc" (name to be discussed) package >> that distributes a number of _trivial_ 3rd party objects ("trivial" >> meaning, that they don't justify separate packa

Re: Comments regarding pd-arraysize_0.1-1_amd64.changes

2010-11-05 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 10:11 +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 09:41:19AM +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote: > >On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 00:10 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > >> On 2010-11-04 22:51, Felipe Sateler wrote: > >> > >> > Usage in a helpfile does not really warrant a Depe

Re: Comments regarding pd-arraysize_0.1-1_amd64.changes

2010-11-05 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 09:41:19AM +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 00:10 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 2010-11-04 22:51, Felipe Sateler wrote: > Usage in a helpfile does not really warrant a Depends relation. > Recommends or Suggests are better. i couldn't have said

Re: Comments regarding pd-arraysize_0.1-1_amd64.changes

2010-11-05 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 00:10 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > On 2010-11-04 22:51, Felipe Sateler wrote: > > > Usage in a helpfile does not really warrant a Depends relation. > > Recommends or Suggests are better. > > i couldn't have said this better. > > (esp. in this very case, where the hel

Re: Comments regarding pd-arraysize_0.1-1_amd64.changes

2010-11-04 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 00:10:56 (CET), IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > i'd probably go for a "pd-plugins-misc" (name to be discussed) package > that distributes a number of _trivial_ 3rd party objects ("trivial" > meaning, that they don't justify separate packaging) What about pd-goodies? (cf. debi

Re: Comments regarding pd-arraysize_0.1-1_amd64.changes

2010-11-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 00:10 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > On 2010-11-04 22:51, Felipe Sateler wrote: > > >> Yeah, it is annoying for sure. The problem is that this particular object > >> is widely used and has been distributed and used like this since 2003ish. > > > > Can't it be distribut

Re: Comments regarding pd-arraysize_0.1-1_amd64.changes

2010-11-04 Thread Felipe Sateler
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 20:10, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > On 2010-11-04 22:51, Felipe Sateler wrote: > >>> Yeah, it is annoying for sure.  The problem is that this particular object >>> is widely used and has been distributed and used like this since 2003ish. >> >> Can't it be distributed within

Re: Comments regarding pd-arraysize_0.1-1_amd64.changes

2010-11-04 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 12:10:56AM +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: i'd probably go for a "pd-plugins-misc" (name to be discussed) package that distributes a number of _trivial_ 3rd party objects ("trivial" meaning, that they don't justify separate packaging) pd-plugins-common perhaps? -

Re: Comments regarding pd-arraysize_0.1-1_amd64.changes

2010-11-04 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-11-04 22:51, Felipe Sateler wrote: >> Yeah, it is annoying for sure. The problem is that this particular object >> is widely used and has been distributed and used like this since 2003ish. > > Can't it be distributed within puredata itself? hmm, i'd rather have the "puredata" package fo

Re: Comments regarding pd-arraysize_0.1-1_amd64.changes

2010-11-04 Thread Felipe Sateler
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 17:15, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > On Nov 4, 2010, at 9:34 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: > >> On Thu, 2010-11-04 at 13:03 +, Luca Falavigna wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> quoting from your debian/copyright: >>>   License: This code is too trivial to have a licence or copyri

Re: Comments regarding pd-arraysize_0.1-1_amd64.changes

2010-11-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 4, 2010, at 9:34 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Thu, 2010-11-04 at 13:03 +, Luca Falavigna wrote: Hi, quoting from your debian/copyright: License: This code is too trivial to have a licence or copyright. Is it really necessary to distribute it in a standalone source package? Y

Re: Comments regarding pd-arraysize_0.1-1_amd64.changes

2010-11-04 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2010-11-04 at 13:03 +, Luca Falavigna wrote: > Hi, > > quoting from your debian/copyright: > License: This code is too trivial to have a licence or copyright. > > Is it really necessary to distribute it in a standalone source package? Yeah, I also think that this is questionable.

Comments regarding pd-arraysize_0.1-1_amd64.changes

2010-11-04 Thread Luca Falavigna
Hi, quoting from your debian/copyright: License: This code is too trivial to have a licence or copyright. Is it really necessary to distribute it in a standalone source package? Cheers, Luca ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multim