At 02:01 AM 11/20/2002 +, Robert O'Connor wrote:
Looking through, I think it is very nicely done. Great work!
Thanks.
For exclusion lists, this has come up before with regards to how to
package these with
descriptions of sites, since that is arguably the most important part, as
it is th
On 19 Nov 2002 at 11:29, Fringe Ryder wrote:
> Since I haven't gotten any more feedback, I finished up icon functionality
> my way and have tossed her up on the web.
>
> http://kittycentral.net/Plucker/PlkrData.html
>
> Both sources and a Windows binary are there.
>
> All the basics work
> > Yes! We want in Plucker now!
> I enjoyed the Python comment next to the 'blink' on the list of currently
> unimplemented tags in the Parser (TextParser.py, around line 855). Props
> to whoever wrote that in.
Appears to be Ondrej back in Parser.py, almost to the day 11/22/99.
On 20 Nov 2002 at 0:55, MJ Ray wrote:
> Robert O'Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > -Others: maybe the "marquee" tag from MSIE 3.x days, and all the other non-
> > standard crap that has come and gone over the years.
>
> Yes! We want in Plucker now!
I enjoyed the Python comment next to the
Robert O'Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> -Others: maybe the "marquee" tag from MSIE 3.x days, and all the other non-
> standard crap that has come and gone over the years.
Yes! We want in Plucker now!
Seriously, has anyone who asks for support for standards-breaking actually
thought the eff
At 12:17 AM 11/20/2002 +, MJ Ray wrote:
Fringe Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I find a mailing list nearly ideal. The only detriments to it are that
the=
> odd message is flagged as spam by my filters and I haven't determined why,=
You need to add the lists to your whitelist or scorefi
At 11:54 PM 11/19/2002 +, Robert O'Connor wrote:
On 19 Nov 2002 at 15:22, Fringe Ryder wrote:
> At 10:53 PM 11/19/2002 +, Robert O'Connor wrote:
> >On 18 Nov 2002 at 21:43, Laurens M. Fridael wrote:
> > > complying with W3C standards is hardly a priority or
> > > even a consideration.
>
Fringe Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I find a mailing list nearly ideal. The only detriments to it are that the=
> odd message is flagged as spam by my filters and I haven't determined why,=
You need to add the lists to your whitelist or scorefile.
> and that threads I care nothing about st
Blake Winton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Not all of the "advantages". If I subscribed to the lists today
> as a new subscriber, I couldn't reply to any message before today.
Yes, you can. The archive site allows you to download a mailbox with all
messages to date in it, which you can then read
At 10:53 PM 11/19/2002 +, Robert O'Connor wrote:
On 18 Nov 2002 at 21:43, Laurens M. Fridael wrote:
> complying with W3C standards is hardly a priority or
> even a consideration.
I would tend to differ on that point.
Over the next few years, Plucker is going to become the dominant force as
On 25 Oct 2002 at 10:35, Wayne A. Arthurton wrote:
> What are people doing to install your Plucker DBs to a memory card w/o
> having to manually change the location on each one?
>
> I'm considering making all my DBs start with pkr e.g. pkrSlashDot and
> then have in script run a move all DBs th
Robert O'Connor wrote:
> On 18 Nov 2002 at 21:43, Laurens M. Fridael wrote:
>
>> complying with W3C standards is hardly a priority or
>> even a consideration.
>
> I would tend to differ on that point.
You're quoting out of context! I already had a lengthy discussion with David
about this. I'm not
On 19 Nov 2002 at 11:12, David A. Desrosiers wrote:
> Ugh, the worst of the offenders. There are no forms on the Onion's
> website, yet they still need to rely on this pods://avantgo/back syntax?
> Useless. On that page, _ALL_ articles reference index.html, and to all
> articles, index.html
On 18 Nov 2002 at 21:43, Laurens M. Fridael wrote:
> complying with W3C standards is hardly a priority or
> even a consideration.
I would tend to differ on that point.
Over the next few years, Plucker is going to become the dominant force as it continues
to
mature and the commercial alternati
At 10:37 PM 11/19/2002 +0100, Michael Nordström wrote:
On Tue, Nov 19, 2002, TIM CONSTANTINE wrote:
> It seems to me that a Bulletin Board for communication would have
> some serious advantages over this mailing list:
As have already been pointed out the "advantages" are already
available for th
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2002, TIM CONSTANTINE wrote:
> > It seems to me that a Bulletin Board for communication would have
> > some serious advantages over this mailing list:
> As have already been pointed out the "advantages" are already
> available for the mailing list.
Not all of the "advantages". I
On Tue, Nov 19, 2002, TIM CONSTANTINE wrote:
> It seems to me that a Bulletin Board for communication would have
> some serious advantages over this mailing list:
As have already been pointed out the "advantages" are already
available for the mailing list.
If you started to use a differet system
I agree.
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/19/02 04:15PM >>>
> Yes, I know different mailing lists could be created, but the whole
> Plucker system needs to work together, and you may need to "jump into and
> out of" different conversations to do what it is that you want to do.
As long as it work
> Yes, I know different mailing lists could be created, but the whole
> Plucker system needs to work together, and you may need to "jump into and
> out of" different conversations to do what it is that you want to do.
As long as it works directly with the mailing lists, and does not
obsol
Oh, OK... Thanks... Looking forward to it...
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/19/02 03:45PM >>>
At 03:35 PM 11/19/2002 -0500, TIM CONSTANTINE wrote:
>I understand that, but if Plucker Desktop is invoking PlkrData, then it
>knows that something has changed and can just set ITSELF up.
>
>I guess what I'm
> It seems to me that a Bulletin Board for communication would have some
> serious advantages over this mailing list:
We've talked about this before. I've been wanting to create a nice
search engine for the list(s) and FAQ and docs, and I have something very
similar working on pilot-link.
It's threaded & searchable like a BB, but I don't have the ability to jump into and
out of conversations.
Also there's one "dev" list - with a BB, multiple categories can be created according
to different developers tastes & aspirations (i.e. one for Plucker Desktop, one for
Plucker Viewer, e
At 03:21 PM 11/19/2002 -0500, TIM CONSTANTINE wrote:
It seems to me that a Bulletin Board for communication would have some
serious advantages over this mailing list:
- It would be searchable
- It would be easier to jump into & out of conversations
- It would be easier to locate previous thread
At 03:35 PM 11/19/2002 -0500, TIM CONSTANTINE wrote:
I understand that, but if Plucker Desktop is invoking PlkrData, then it
knows that something has changed and can just set ITSELF up.
I guess what I'm calling for is for whoever is working on Plucker Desktop
(sorry, I don't know who's who yet
>What about writing a Plucker authoring guide, with guidelines specifying
>which parts of HTML are supported, how to achieve particular formatting,
>what to do and what not to do, etc.? Or is there such a thing already?
>I'm planning to write a reference for JPluck that explain how HTML is
>parsed,
I understand that, but if Plucker Desktop is invoking PlkrData, then it knows that
something has changed and can just set ITSELF up.
I guess what I'm calling for is for whoever is working on Plucker Desktop (sorry, I
don't know who's who yet) to work with you to add your functionality to that pr
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/19/02 02:29PM >>>
Since I haven't gotten any more feedback, I finished up icon functionality
my way and have tossed her up on the web.
http://kittycentral.net/Plucker/PlkrData.html
Feedback would be very appreciated.
-Tony McNamara
At 03:09 PM 11/19/2
It seems to me that a Bulletin Board for communication would have some serious
advantages over this mailing list:
- It would be searchable
- It would be easier to jump into & out of conversations
- It would be easier to locate previous threads of discussion (history)
phpBB would be good.
Can th
Great work Tony. This will be very handy.
Just one comment - it seems to me that Plucker Desktop should be the one communicating
with PlkrData, not the other way around. That is, you should be able to use the
Plucker Desktop GUI to import/export channels (& behind the scenes, Plucker Desktop
Laurens M. Fridael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> it seems that SVG may not be in a happy place for free software
>> either, because of patents held on some of its core methods.
> Akin to the LZW patent used by GIF? I'll take a look.
Actually, I think they're far more pervasive than that. With the
Since I haven't gotten any more feedback, I finished up icon functionality
my way and have tossed her up on the web.
http://kittycentral.net/Plucker/PlkrData.html
Both sources and a Windows binary are there.
All the basics work - registration under Windows (not Linux yet), saving,
and loading
Wesley Mason wrote:
> Ok...
>
> Can we, for argument sake, in the parser have it translate the
> pods://avantgo/back link to a link to the prior page?
>
> I think this solves alot of the problems.
I totally agree. This is the best solution for now.
Regards
-Laurens
David A. Desrosiers wrote:
>> No, you don't understand, I'm talking about the link *back* from C
>> to A or B. Look at the The Onion for example.
>> http://mobile.thenion.com/
> ^o
>
> Ugh, the worst of the offenders. There are no forms on th
Ok...
Can we, for argument sake, in the parser have it translate the
pods://avantgo/back link to a link to the prior page?
I think this solves alot of the problems.
--Wes
- Original Message -
From: "David A. Desrosiers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Plucker Development List" <[EMAIL PROTECT
What are people doing to install your Plucker DBs to a memory card w/o
having to manually change the location on each one?
I'm considering making all my DBs start with pkr e.g. pkrSlashDot and
then have in script run a move all DBs that start with pkr from the
Install dir to the Memory Stik ins
> No, you don't understand, I'm talking about the link *back* from C to A or
> B. Look at the The Onion for example. http://mobile.thenion.com/
^o
Ugh, the worst of the offenders. There are no forms on the Onion's
website, yet they
> > What do you mean by a "dedicated conduit"? Plucker has had
> > a (Win32) conduit for quite a while now.
> Where?
Right! That was harder to find than I would have hoped.
(Google gave me nothing for "Plucker conduit", so I had to go
back through my saved email from the list to find it.)
It's
Blake Winton wrote:
> What do you mean by a "dedicated conduit"? Plucker has had
> a (Win32) conduit for quite a while now.
Where?
Regards
-Laurens
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David A. Desrosiers wrote:
>> If you have a structure. A->C, B->C then you might actually want back
>> functionality. Otherwise you have to create two copies of C (A<-C1,
>> B<-C2) wasting bandwidth and space for what is essentially the same
>> page.
>
> This makes no sense to me whatsoever. You do
MJ Ray wrote:
> There's a conversation just started on [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
> it seems that SVG may not be in a happy place for free software
> either, because of patents held on some of its core methods.
Akin to the LZW patent used by GIF? I'll take a look.
> Please, get your hands dirty and st
> > If you have a structure. A->C, B->C then you might actually
> > want back functionality. Otherwise you have to create two
> > copies of C (A<-C1, B<-C2)
> This makes no sense to me whatsoever. You don't need more
> than one copy of C at all, just keep referencing C from
> wherever you call it.
Laurens M. Fridael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [...] The Adobe SVG plug-in, for instance, is still way too heavy compared
> to Flash and there aren't enough good SVG authoring tools for designers,
> nothing that can compare with Flash MX, that is. [...]
There's a conversation just started on [EMA
Just FYI, I've put a modified version of the Avantgo vs Plucker table on my
website with an extra column added for Opie-Reader (the Zaurus/Opie on ipaq
reader). It should give people a better idea of where I've got to with it -
see
http://www.timwentford.uklinux.net/a-vs-p.html
I did it mostly as
> If you have a structure. A->C, B->C then you might actually want back
> functionality. Otherwise you have to create two copies of C (A<-C1, B<-C2)
> wasting bandwidth and space for what is essentially the same page.
This makes no sense to me whatsoever. You don't need more than one
copy
David A. Desrosiers wrote:
> [page a] -follows link to-> [page b]
>
> [link on page b called "Back" ]
>
If you have a structure. A->C, B->C then you might actually want back
functionality. Otherwise you have to create two copies of C (A<-C1, B<-C2)
wasting bandwidth and space for what is essential
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