[PLUG] Which new distro?

2009-04-17 Thread Guy Letourneau
I am using Ubuntu Intrepid. I am a user and not a coder. I also live out in slow-speed, ex-urban Oregon. Lately this past week I have been notified of several large patches; 17MB, 10MB and today 4MB. I don't like stopping my other downloads every other day. Generally I don't like patches

Re: [PLUG] Which new distro?

2009-04-17 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009, Guy Letourneau wrote: SO: Which distros out there, in your experience, combine: a) arguably modern functionality: good GUIs, drag-n-drop, plug-n-play USB, decent driver availability, etc, and b) Only need adjustments (downloads) about once every 6 - 14mo? More seldom is

Re: [PLUG] Which new distro?

2009-04-17 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009, Guy Letourneau wrote: I am using Ubuntu Intrepid. I am a user and not a coder. I also live out in slow-speed, ex-urban Oregon. Just a thought: have a friend or colleague with a high-speed connection get the patches and burn them on a cdrom. He can mail you the disk and

Re: [PLUG] Which new distro?

2009-04-17 Thread Nye Walker
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.comwrote: Just a thought: have a friend or colleague with a high-speed connection get the patches and burn them on a cdrom. He can mail you the disk and the materials and postage will cost you less than the frustration of

Re: [PLUG] Which new distro?

2009-04-17 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009, Guy Letourneau wrote: Generally I don't like patches because they feel to me like 'the engineers turned in their homework late - after we had already shipped the product.' I think we all feel your discomfort, but release early, release often is so ingrained in

Re: [PLUG] Which new distro?

2009-04-17 Thread Mel Andres
Guy Letourneau wrote: I am using Ubuntu Intrepid. I am a user and not a coder. I also live out in slow-speed, ex-urban Oregon. Lately this past week I have been notified of several large patches; 17MB, 10MB and today 4MB. I don't like stopping my other downloads every other day.

Re: [PLUG] Which new distro?

2009-04-17 Thread Guy Letourneau
I'm not sure if Ubuntu is different, ... You could just ignore it until you have the time to update? That is* one annoyance, the red 'zomG if you don't download your system will be COMPROMISED' arrow does NOT let you ignore upgrades to software you don't even use. I use Thunderbird but

Re: [PLUG] Which new distro?

2009-04-17 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009, Guy Letourneau wrote: If I get a Linux event going out here, you all would be more than welcome to come on out! Guy, OK. Now drop the other shoe. Where is out here? Rich -- Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D. | IntegrityCredibility Applied Ecosystem

Re: [PLUG] Which new distro?

2009-04-17 Thread Heath Morrison
Guy, My hunch is that you'll have fewer non-security package updates running something with a longer release cycle, such as Debian stable, CentOS/RHEL, or even Ubuntu LTS. These all have much longer release cycles than vanilla Ubuntu. -Heath On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Guy Letourneau

Re: [PLUG] Which new distro?

2009-04-17 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 09:22:33 -0700 (PDT) Joe Pruett j...@clean.q7.com dijo: That is* one annoyance, the red 'zomG if you don't download your system will be COMPROMISED' arrow does NOT let you ignore upgrades to software you don't even use. I use Thunderbird but if I uncheck all the EUDORA

Re: [PLUG] Which new distro?

2009-04-17 Thread Michael
Guy Letourneau wrote: I'm not sure if Ubuntu is different, ... You could just ignore it until you have the time to update? That is* one annoyance, the red 'zomG if you don't download your system will be COMPROMISED' arrow does NOT let you ignore upgrades to software you don't even use.

Re: [PLUG] Which new distro?

2009-04-17 Thread chris (fool) mccraw
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 09:19, Guy Letourneau guy1...@opusnet.com wrote: I'm not sure if Ubuntu is different, ...   You could just ignore it until you have the time to update? That is* one annoyance, the red 'zomG if you don't download your system will be COMPROMISED' arrow does NOT let you

Re: [PLUG] Which new distro?

2009-04-17 Thread Larry W
Larry W wrote: Ubuntu Breezy (also 2005) Oops, sorry. Slackware 8 is much older than 2005. -- L a r r y W i l l i a m s PM, Holbrook #30, AFAM | AP, Acacia #22, Amaranth Forest Grove #37, RAM| Tualatin #31, OES Sunset #20, Cryptic | Dad, Hillsboro #24, IORG

Re: [PLUG] Which new distro?

2009-04-17 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009, Larry W wrote: Still this points to the less-automatic disadvantage because one has to sign up to the list. Is it pointed out to the user during installation? I've no idea. When I switched from Red Hat I subscribed to receive a set of disks each time an upgrade was

Re: [PLUG] Which new distro?

2009-04-17 Thread drew wymore
There is a security mailing list that is low volume. I believe there have been maybe 6 updates since the release of 12.2. Slackware doesn't generally do kernel upgrades after the release which keeps downloads low. On 4/17/09, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com wrote: On Fri, 17 Apr 2009,

Re: [PLUG] Which new distro?

2009-04-17 Thread Larry W
Rich Shepard wrote: I've no idea. When I switched from Red Hat I subscribed to receive a set of disks each time an upgrade was released. I don't recall explicitly subscribing to an announce list, and I don't remember the headers on the patch notification messages. What I like is that

Re: [PLUG] Which new distro?

2009-04-17 Thread chris (fool) mccraw
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 12:26, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com wrote:   Of course, I'm a CLI guy so I much prefer having control over what's installed and upgraded. every distribution that i know of lets you do that. i don't use ubuntu's gui, so i am manually checking for and installing