Re: [PLUG] Feedback wanted: Virtual PLUG Events

2020-03-27 Thread Daniel Johnson
I'm in the process of developing video conferencing software so this discussion is helpful. On Fri, Mar 27, 2020, 1:30 PM Michael Dexter wrote: > On 3/27/20 5:17 AM, Ben Koenig wrote: > > "FreeConferenceCall" ??? Really? > > I just got off of Michael B's demo of this. It is quite similar to >

Re: [PLUG] From {proprietary consumer} TO {FOSS contributor} HOW???

2020-03-27 Thread King Beowulf
On 3/27/20 12:59 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: > Lousy subject line? *PROBABLY* Suggestions welcome ;} > > About a decade ago I got fed up with M$ telling me that they knew more > about my needs than I. > > Responding to an application oriented question on a USENET forum, a PLUG > member suggested I

Re: [PLUG] From {proprietary consumer} TO {FOSS contributor} HOW???

2020-03-27 Thread Mike C.
As a fellow Debian user, a good place to start for participating in and contributing to the Debian community is https://www.debian.org/intro/help Cheers, Mike On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 12:59 PM Richard Owlett wrote: > Lousy subject line? *PROBABLY* Suggestions welcome ;} > > About a decade ago

Re: [PLUG] Downloading a video file

2020-03-27 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sat, 28 Mar 2020, J. Hart wrote: try this : wget https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/j9wpsjdja4mfm4r/COVID-19-Session-1-Video.mp4 Thanks for the suggestion. I wrapped the URL in double quotes and ran 'file' on the downloaded result. It is an mp4 so I renamed it so it makes sense. Rich

Re: [PLUG] Downloading a video file

2020-03-27 Thread J. Hart
try this : wget https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/j9wpsjdja4mfm4r/COVID-19-Session-1-Video.mp4 On 03/28/2020 09:28 AM, Rich Shepard wrote: I was sent a URL to a long series of characters at https://clicks.aweber.com/ which is a 75 minute video file. Going to that address permits watching

Re: [PLUG] Downloading a video file [RESOLVED]

2020-03-27 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 27 Mar 2020, wes wrote: The problem is that bash interprets characters like & and ? to have special meanings. Try putting the URL in quotes. Wes, Yep, quotes make the difference. I didn't pay attention to the string and missed seeing this. Much appreciated, Rich

Re: [PLUG] Downloading a video file

2020-03-27 Thread wes
On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 5:31 PM Rich Shepard wrote: > I was sent a URL to a long series of characters at > https://clicks.aweber.com/ > which is a 75 minute video file. Going to that address permits watching it, > but I'd like to download the file and watch it using local software. > > wget

[PLUG] Downloading a video file

2020-03-27 Thread Rich Shepard
I was sent a URL to a long series of characters at https://clicks.aweber.com/ which is a 75 minute video file. Going to that address permits watching it, but I'd like to download the file and watch it using local software. wget fails to download the file: wget

Re: [PLUG] NVIDIA 8300GS CentOS 7...

2020-03-27 Thread Ben Koenig
are you trying to install the 173 driver from the .run file you listed? an 8000 series card should use either 306.x or 340.x series drivers. 173 is a transitional version that overlaps and is not part of the official support cycle. On ubuntu 173 does some really psychadelic stuff with the colors

[PLUG] NVIDIA 8300GS CentOS 7...

2020-03-27 Thread michael
[michael@eagle ~]$ sudo lshw -class display [sudo] password for michael: *-display description: VGA compatible controller product: Cedar [Radeon HD 5000/6000/7350/8350 Series] vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] physical id: 0 bus info: pci@:01:00.0 version: 00 width: 64

Re: [PLUG] Feedback wanted: Virtual PLUG Events

2020-03-27 Thread Michael Dexter
>> Otherwise, please crawl back under your rock. > Not helpful. Agreed. On 3/27/20 7:51 AM, Ben Koenig wrote: It doesn't even matter what your opinion of Trump is. The idea that an anonymous group anywhere in the world can use the data you upload to the internet to directly target you in a

Re: [PLUG] Feedback wanted: Virtual PLUG Events

2020-03-27 Thread Ben Koenig
https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf I don't know if people really don't care, or if they are afraid to accept the harsh reality of the world we live in. Russian intelligence agencies directly attacked American politics in 2016. There are documented instances of direct harassment of

Re: [PLUG] Feedback wanted: Virtual PLUG Events

2020-03-27 Thread Mike C.
> I don't care what service/software/application/OS/whatever, some people > are going to piss and moan about it because it wasn't their choice or > personal favorite, regardless of whether or not they even actually know > anything about it. We're all equal members of the PLUG community to the

Re: [PLUG] Spotting a fake web service

2020-03-27 Thread Ben Koenig
On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 1:55 PM Rich Shepard wrote: > On Fri, 27 Mar 2020, Ben Koenig wrote: > > > Fails the test, but in this particular area my opinions in this area can > > be pretty harsh. The middle ground is probably hiding here somewhere. > > Ben, > > Thanks for making time to dig into

Re: [PLUG] Feedback wanted: Virtual PLUG Events

2020-03-27 Thread Michael Barnes
On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 12:19 PM Ben Koenig wrote: > On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 11:01 AM Michael Dexter > wrote: > > > All, > > > > I'm here for the software and personal freedom. I see open source/free > > software as one of the best strategies (regardless of the specifics), to > > achieve more

Re: [PLUG] Spotting a fake web service

2020-03-27 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 27 Mar 2020, Ben Koenig wrote: Fails the test, but in this particular area my opinions in this area can be pretty harsh. The middle ground is probably hiding here somewhere. Ben, Thanks for making time to dig into jitsi. As a non-CS/IT professional I would not have picked up on

Re: [PLUG] Feedback wanted: Virtual PLUG Events

2020-03-27 Thread Michael Dexter
On 3/27/20 5:17 AM, Ben Koenig wrote: "FreeConferenceCall" ??? Really? I just got off of Michael B's demo of this. It is quite similar to Zoom/Hangouts and no, making something "open source" does not make something inherently more secure, but it does generally insulate you from a company

Re: [PLUG] Free Conference Call => "Spotting a a fake web service"

2020-03-27 Thread Ben Koenig
On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 1:07 PM Mike C. wrote: > > > > One option that was mentioned was FreeConferenceCall.com. > > > > Out of curiosity, I casually looked this up via an online search and was > > given 2 hits. > > > > FreeConferenceCall.com > > FreeConference.com > > > > Both websites appear

Re: [PLUG] Spotting a fake web service

2020-03-27 Thread Ben Koenig
On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 12:48 PM Rich Shepard wrote: > On Fri, 27 Mar 2020, Ben Koenig wrote: > > > Out of curiosity, I casually looked this up via an online search and was > > given 2 hits. > > > > FreeConferenceCall.com > > FreeConference.com > > Ben, > > Interesting since Michael mentioned

Re: [PLUG] Free Conference Call => "Spotting a a fake web service"

2020-03-27 Thread Mike C.
> > One option that was mentioned was FreeConferenceCall.com. > > Out of curiosity, I casually looked this up via an online search and was > given 2 hits. > > FreeConferenceCall.com > FreeConference.com > > Both websites appear very similar, but do not obviously reference each > other. I do not

[PLUG] From {proprietary consumer} TO {FOSS contributor} HOW???

2020-03-27 Thread Richard Owlett
Lousy subject line? *PROBABLY* Suggestions welcome ;} About a decade ago I got fed up with M$ telling me that they knew more about my needs than I. Responding to an application oriented question on a USENET forum, a PLUG member suggested I try Ubuntu. Canonical had made design decisions

Re: [PLUG] Feedback wanted: Virtual PLUG Events

2020-03-27 Thread Ben Koenig
On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 12:46 PM Rich Shepard wrote: > On Fri, 27 Mar 2020, Ben Koenig wrote: > > > With the sudden increase in demand in remote access technologies, and the > > misinformation floating around about open source software being more > > secure, it is important to be wary of new

Re: [PLUG] Spotting a fake web service

2020-03-27 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 27 Mar 2020, Ben Koenig wrote: Out of curiosity, I casually looked this up via an online search and was given 2 hits. FreeConferenceCall.com FreeConference.com Ben, Interesting since Michael mentioned only the first and that's what I'm considering. Why not take a look at

Re: [PLUG] Feedback wanted: Virtual PLUG Events

2020-03-27 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 27 Mar 2020, Ben Koenig wrote: With the sudden increase in demand in remote access technologies, and the misinformation floating around about open source software being more secure, it is important to be wary of new services that you've never heard of. For the foreseeable future, I

[PLUG] Spotting a fake web service

2020-03-27 Thread Ben Koenig
Hi all, This could just be extreme paranoia on my part, but it's worth the investigation. I see that several PLUG members are researching an alternative to in-person meetings. One option that was mentioned was FreeConferenceCall.com. Out of curiosity, I casually looked this up via an online

Re: [PLUG] Feedback wanted: Virtual PLUG Events

2020-03-27 Thread Ben Koenig
On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 11:01 AM Michael Dexter wrote: > All, > > I'm here for the software and personal freedom. I see open source/free > software as one of the best strategies (regardless of the specifics), to > achieve more personal freedom for all individuals. If I were to have a > smart

Re: [PLUG] Feedback wanted: Virtual PLUG Events

2020-03-27 Thread Michael Dexter
All, I'm here for the software and personal freedom. I see open source/free software as one of the best strategies (regardless of the specifics), to achieve more personal freedom for all individuals. If I were to have a smart home, it would HAVE to be based on open source software and I want

Re: [PLUG] Feedback wanted: Virtual PLUG Events

2020-03-27 Thread Rich Shepard
On Thu, 26 Mar 2020, Michael Barnes wrote: I will be hosting an online meeting demonstration on Friday from 1200-1300L. For those not available at this time, I can repeat at other times. I've an on-line conference (using Zoom) from 10:00-11:30 today and need to get work done after that.

Re: [PLUG] Feedback wanted: Virtual PLUG Events

2020-03-27 Thread Rich Shepard
On Thu, 26 Mar 2020, Michael Barnes wrote: Actually, I just hosted a conference tonight, finished a few minutes ago. Michael, Thanks very much for the detailed explanation. As host, I did need to download and use the the app, but the attendees only needed to use their web browsers. I

Re: [PLUG] Feedback wanted: Virtual PLUG Events

2020-03-27 Thread Michael Dexter
Hello all, Thank you for the GREAT feedback! On 3/25/20 8:37 PM, Michael Barnes wrote: Here's a comparison: https://www.freeconferencecall.com/blog/webex-zoom-startmeeting-comparison/ FCC supports video and desktop sharing. Users can connect via computer or telephone. FCC allows 1,000 users,

Re: [PLUG] Feedback wanted: Virtual PLUG Events

2020-03-27 Thread Michael Barnes
I will be hosting an online meeting demonstration on Friday from 1200-1300L. I will be showing documents, applications, portions of a PowerPoint slide show, and my recent POTA activation video. I will entertain questions and comments. You may log in at anytime and stay as long as you like. This