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On Mon, 23 Sep 2019 17:06:08 -0700 Ben Koenig wrote: > One can also re-frame Tomas' comments. > > > The seatbelt did not invent itself, and Internet Safety doesn't grow > on trees. There is an expectation currently that everything will > magically work itself out, that all of this will be made

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Galen, I am going to second that because Ben also wrote: "Fine, I'll fiddle with the reply-to line and move it. I haven't had a good flamewar in a while, and this guy is gonna end up crying into his broke-ass propaganda websites." "don't send me private emails you trump toting jackass. The fact

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On 9/23/19 6:21 PM, Ben Koenig wrote:> maybe instead of waiting for one guy to fight on your behalf, try pulling your head out of your ass and do it yourself. You don't need a tech manual. OK, I'm actually going to take a portion of this advice. Instead of waiting for someone else to speak

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If you missed my point about seatbelts not growing on trees, then you are the one who needs an english lesson. This complacent attitude people have needs to stop. Your entire world is governed by technology, and yet you act like there's no reason for you to get involved. Its selfish, arrogant,

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I tried to make a point about with whom and how we delegate and spread trust. I tried to dress it somewhat, so that I did not come as a...le. That being said, I find it extremely dangerous to a healthy discourse to be spreading unverified opinions - especially about privacy and security. People

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On 9/23/19 5:10 PM, Rich Shepard wrote: On Mon, 23 Sep 2019, Ben Koenig wrote: IMO, Rich isn't going to get what he wants, Ah, but with regard to letting ghostery do what it can to block tracking and accepting the results are just what I want. :-) I have no complaints about that.

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On Mon, 23 Sep 2019, Ben Koenig wrote: IMO, Rich isn't going to get what he wants, Ah, but with regard to letting ghostery do what it can to block tracking and accepting the results are just what I want. :-) If you want to experience having to prove negatives (e.g., by assuring that no

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Some of this is sounding a bit hostile. Hostility is not useful. -Denis On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 5:01 PM Ben Koenig wrote: > One can also re-frame Tomas' comments. > > > The seatbelt did not invent itself, and Internet Safety doesn't grow on > trees. There is an expectation currently that

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One can also re-frame Tomas' comments. The seatbelt did not invent itself, and Internet Safety doesn't grow on trees. There is an expectation currently that everything will magically work itself out, that all of this will be made right in the end. The reality is that someone has to build the

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As a tech user and non-tech worker/researcher, Rich, makes a very salient point about personal data privacy / security. In the words of comedian Roy Moore, "Ain't nobody got time for all that" reading the Terms of Service, researching apps, monitoring security vulnerabilities, etc. I've worked

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Hi Rich, Please do not see this as patronizing or worse, it is not meant that way. Don't you think it would be appropriate to mention that - you do not know what Ghostery does, whether it is effective, no idea about their terms of service - in your post implying that what you do is good way to

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On Sun, 22 Sep 2019, Tomas Kuchta wrote: How do you know that Ghostery does good job in terms of privacy? Tomas, I assume they do. Is that from the first hand experience watching traffic and asking Ghostery commercial outfit what they do with your browsing data? I have neither the

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You make some good points, but also demonstrate the level to which google is embedded in software development. In recommending ways to get away from google's tracking, you mentioned compatibility with Android, which renders all efforts to afford the problem meaningless. Tracking that is baked into

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Rich, How do you know that Ghostery does good job in terms of privacy? Is that from the first hand experience watching traffic and asking Ghostery commercial outfit what they do with your browsing data? Just asking - they are a company like any other, they do get to see your web destinations,

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On Sun, 22 Sep 2019, Ben Koenig wrote: It's pretty disgusting these days. Distros like Debian and Ubuntu working behind the scenes to sell out the community. Even Mozilla links up with all those API's, making a weak claim that their use for tracking is totally different from everyone else's.

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On 9/22/19 10:41 AM, Thomas Groman wrote: ... When it comes to calendering, NextCloud is great for this. It can provide both a web interface and CalDav services for integration within Thunderbird, CalCurse-caldav, android, or anything else than handles caldav... You make some good points,

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On Fri, 26 Jul 2019 12:26:07 -0700 Dick Steffens wrote: > On 7/26/19 12:13 PM, King Beowulf wrote: > > On 7/25/19 10:21 PM, Dick Steffens wrote: > >> Is there a good place to read up on IP tracking by Google? Folks I > >> know want to use Google Calendar. They are totally unsophisticated > >>

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I completely second the notion of running not only your calendar, but especially your address book. Not only it keeps those very personal data to yourself, but it also allows you to attach and transfer these services to the device of your choice with ease. I recommend NextCloud for this as well

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Hi, New to this list, hope I'm doing this correctly. Rather than suggesting any kind of service (VPN, Tor, Qubes, Tails, VM's, etc.), it could be better to consider your threat model (i.e., "who is most likely to target me/my org/my customers?") first. As an example, with a certain threat model

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On 7/26/19 3:16 PM, Dick Steffens wrote: > On 7/26/19 3:00 PM, Rich Shepard wrote: >> On Fri, 26 Jul 2019, Dick Steffens wrote: >> >>> The problem is what search engine they use, but their desire to use >>> Google Calendar. >> >> Dick, >> >> Oh. Perhaps: >> >> Free Web-based Calendar [Search

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Could you create a google account over Tor, and use the calendar there exclusively? On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 8:46 AM Ben Koenig wrote: > You can't stop the tracking these days, it's becomed too embedded in all > online activity. The only solution is to cut yourself off from the network. > > Even

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You can't stop the tracking these days, it's becomed too embedded in all online activity. The only solution is to cut yourself off from the network. Even with VPN's and anti-tracking browser plugins they can still gather contextual data. Duckduckgo makes a lot of claims, but their impact is

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Here's a good overview of TOR https://youtu.be/lVcbq_a5N9I For day-to-day use with regular internet activities you would be better off using a reputable VPN. They are cheap and easy to set up. I agree that masking meta-searches is only the tip of the iceberg. Some basic things a user can do to

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On Fri, 26 Jul 2019 20:46:37 + Robert Munro dijo: >It's almost impossible to defeat internet tracking, unless you use TOR. I'd like to know more about TOR. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug

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On Fri, 26 Jul 2019, Dick Steffens wrote: That's worth considering. I run the website, so I should be able to incorporate that into it. I can even do it so it doesn't show up on the public part of the site. Thanks for the recommendations. Certainly! And, there's always the Palm Pilot

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On 7/26/19 3:00 PM, Rich Shepard wrote: On Fri, 26 Jul 2019, Dick Steffens wrote: The problem is what search engine they use, but their desire to use Google Calendar. Dick, Oh. Perhaps: Free Web-based Calendar [Search domain globalcalendar.com] globalcalendar.com globalcalendar.com allows

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On Fri, 26 Jul 2019, Dick Steffens wrote: The problem is what search engine they use, but their desire to use Google Calendar. Dick, Oh. Perhaps: Free Web-based Calendar [Search domain globalcalendar.com] globalcalendar.com globalcalendar.com allows you to store your schedule online. since,

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On 7/26/19 2:30 PM, Rich Shepard wrote: On Fri, 26 Jul 2019, Robert Munro wrote: However, your ISP sees all the websites you visit and advertisers place trackers on individual websites that report traffic to their databases, so your search terms are just the tip of the huge web tracking

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On 7/26/19 2:26 PM, Rich Shepard wrote: On Fri, 26 Jul 2019, Dick Steffens wrote: Thanks, Ed. That's what I was asking about. I know all that stuff is there, and I know a little bit about using it to know more about your site's visitors. It's what is done with that information that I have

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On Fri, 26 Jul 2019, Robert Munro wrote: However, your ISP sees all the websites you visit and advertisers place trackers on individual websites that report traffic to their databases, so your search terms are just the tip of the huge web tracking iceberg. ghostery

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On Fri, 26 Jul 2019, Dick Steffens wrote: Thanks, Ed. That's what I was asking about. I know all that stuff is there, and I know a little bit about using it to know more about your site's visitors. It's what is done with that information that I have heard that Google is known for. As Kieth has

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On 7/25/19 22:21:53, Dick Steffens wrote:> > Is there a good place to read up on IP tracking by Google? Folks I know > want to use Google Calendar. They are totally unsophisticated with > regards to how Google tracks a user's IP address. I want to find some > information I can cite to explain it

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On 7/26/19 1:27 PM, King Beowulf wrote: On 7/26/19 12:26 PM, Dick Steffens wrote: On 7/26/19 12:13 PM, King Beowulf wrote: On 7/25/19 10:21 PM, Dick Steffens wrote: Is there a good place to read up on IP tracking by Google? Folks I know want to use Google Calendar. They are totally

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On 7/26/19 12:26 PM, Dick Steffens wrote: > On 7/26/19 12:13 PM, King Beowulf wrote: >> On 7/25/19 10:21 PM, Dick Steffens wrote: >>> Is there a good place to read up on IP tracking by Google? Folks I know >>> want to use Google Calendar. They are totally unsophisticated with >>> regards to how

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On 7/26/19 12:13 PM, King Beowulf wrote: On 7/25/19 10:21 PM, Dick Steffens wrote: Is there a good place to read up on IP tracking by Google? Folks I know want to use Google Calendar. They are totally unsophisticated with regards to how Google tracks a user's IP address. I want to find some

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On 7/25/19 10:21 PM, Dick Steffens wrote: > Is there a good place to read up on IP tracking by Google? Folks I know > want to use Google Calendar. They are totally unsophisticated with > regards to how Google tracks a user's IP address. I want to find some > information I can cite to explain it to

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On 7/26/19 10:39 AM, Bill Ensley wrote: Just my 2 cents, before you spend too much time looking for information, make sure they care if Google tracks their IP. I already know that some do. -- Regards, Dick Steffens ___ PLUG mailing list

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Just my 2 cents, before you spend too much time looking for information, make sure they care if Google tracks their IP. -Bill Ensley Founder www.bearprinting.com On 7/25/2019 10:21 PM, Dick Steffens wrote: > Is there a good place to read up on IP tracking by Google? Folks I > know want to use

[PLUG] IP tracking

Is there a good place to read up on IP tracking by Google? Folks I know want to use Google Calendar. They are totally unsophisticated with regards to how Google tracks a user's IP address. I want to find some information I can cite to explain it to them. -- Regards, Dick Steffens