philippe_44 wrote:
> You miss the IO::Socket::SSL. Install it using CPAN
In your plugin you could check Slim::Networking::Async::HTTP::hasSSL()
and act accordingly.
Michael
http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - MusicArtistInfo, MusicInfoSCR,
Smart Mix
K.Clemens wrote:
> I use a Raspberry PI 2, so I downloaded the ZIP and extracted it into
> "/var/lib/squeezeboxserver/Plugins"
Don't download & unzip manually. Just use the web UI's Settings/Plugins
tab to install it.
Michael
http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - MusicArtistInfo,
MeSue wrote:
> What at do think about making it so that hitting "play less like this
> song" in SmartMix options also skipped ahead to the next track?
Hmm... I was wondering what skipping would cause in the background. In
the latest version there's an option to report skips to TEN, which
should
Sorry about the 1.0.2 f..up. 1.0.3 is on its way. Thanks!
Michael
http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - MusicArtistInfo, MusicInfoSCR,
Smart Mix
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Oh, I thought the latest change was discussed here, but it's been in a
separate thread in the German group...
There's a new option to apply the keyword filter to station names, too.
If you listen to news radio stations, you might want to check this out.
If you've been happy with what has been
netwomble wrote:
> Hi. I've moved the web ui behind a reverse proxy so that "music.
> mydomain. com" forwards to "musicserver. local : 9000"
Does Apache add password protection, too?
Michael
http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - MusicArtistInfo, MusicInfoSCR,
Smart Mix
netwomble wrote:
> I do have a VPN, which is why I'm not too concerned if this issue is not
> fixed. However, I let my workmates/friends use the web interface to
> control music, so it would be nice to have the Blender working through
> the reverse proxy.
Don't do this. Really. You can use
cparker wrote:
> It was returning tracks like this (NOTE the tmp);
> URL Reported;tmp:FATCAT/music/music/Massive%20Attack/Heligoland/etc
>
> Yet moments ago when I was listening on my duet I was getting the
> normal;
> URL Reported;file:FATCAT/music/music/Thievery%20Corporation/etc.
>
philippe_44 - how would you like to get modifications? When looking at
the code I feel a strong urge to remove some of the legacy code...
There's code in there which was supposed to deal with older LMS
versions. But as you define 7.7 as the minimum in the install.xml
manifest this is no longer
pippin wrote:
> Is there any sense in keeping the old, dysfunctional one around?
I guess the answer is "No".
Michael
http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - MusicArtistInfo, MusicInfoSCR,
Smart Mix
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Squaly wrote:
> Hi,
> here is the Qobuz answer :
Thanks! I'll review our code to make sure we don't cause this any more.
Michael
http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - MusicArtistInfo, MusicInfoSCR,
Smart Mix
mherger's
Squaly wrote:
In english : they blocked my IP because I use a squeezebox that creates
overload.
That's only part of the story. The more important part is that they cite
Pierre (the original author of the plugin) telling them that people
still use an outdated version of the plugin, because
Please excuse the noob's question: is this plugin still some kind of
maintained? It's causing tons of log entries due to using deprecated
calls. It makes log file analysis almost impossible... I'd like to kill
those calls, as they have been deprecated for years. But this would
render this plugin
joerg633 wrote:
Code:
[15-07-22 08:51:49.0696] Slim::Player::Protocols::HTTP::getMetadataFor
(663) Metadata provider Slim::Plugin::RadioTime::Metadata::provider failed:
Can't call method master on an undefined value at
doubleugk wrote:
...guess I have to give up being smart? I tried hard, but neither song
nor artist mix worked. I'm sorry if the following mix isn't exactly a
match of the previous tracks...
Accidently it came up with the best mix ever created by Smart Mix.
Hehe... what it's doing in this
B1tbull wrote:
Does this imply that some songs are simply not available at TEN ?
Yes. I picked a random Willy DeVille track of yours and validated it
against TEN. It didn't find it (Just off Decatur Street - Willy
DeVille).
Michael
http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - MusicArtistInfo,
Could you please enable debugging for plugin.smartmix
(Settings/Advanced/Logging) and try again. Then upload your server.log.
Thanks!
skunkworx wrote:
Hi,
I am getting an error whenever I try and play a smart mix. Can anyone
suggest how to fix it.
Code:
disaster123 wrote:
Strange. Does the original one (StuartUSA) work for you? Can you post a
debug log? can you post your avahi conf? And can you show me the output
of: ps aux|egrep avahi|mdns
Tried StuartUSA's version - but it failed the same way. Debug log of
what? Above few lines is all I
Thanks a lot disaster123! Unfortunately I don't see any of my players in
iThingies. Here's what tail server.log file looks like:
Code:
[15-05-22 07:24:07.7483]
Plugins::ShairTunes2::Plugin::playerSubscriptionChange (132) request=client new
client=Schreibtisch
Oh, I missed one... yes, there are changes, but SmartMix does ignore
them. I'll have to investigate this. Most likely it's due to the
multiple music folders. Maybe at some point the list of tracks which
need to be added/updated to SmartMix gets reset. Thanks for the heads
up!
Michael
vinnielo wrote:
Oh, are you?
Something to do with my setup, perhaps? It should be visible to all
devices.
Does it install?
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And yes, it does install. As a developer make sure you don't have your
local copy still lying around in
Please note that the OrangeSqueeze integration is rather simplistic: it
provides a link which then would open the Blender in your web browser.
iPeng on iPad is a bit nicer, as it features a built-in browser:
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Users without any of the supported apps can open the URL shown
mherger wrote:
Are you absolutely sure it would not work on iPhone 6 Plus? Any way I
could try?
I'll try to test with the simulator. Can you open the following in
safari?
http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins/blender/blender2.html
Would still require some tweaking:
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pippin wrote:
What exactly is broken? I use the same command in iPeng and it seems to
work for me.
The query failed when no client ID was given.
Michael
http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - MusicArtistInfo, MusicInfoSCR,
Smart Mix
Never mind: I can reproduce it using a simple POST client. Interesting.
I've been using it in the web UI all the time...
Will fix asap. Thanks for bringing up this topic.
Michael
http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - MusicArtistInfo, MusicInfoSCR,
Smart Mix
Wirrunna wrote:
Michael, I suspect that you lost the note.
Don't worry. I don't loose notes. My son takes care of them. It must be
in there.
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ab.wagener wrote:
Mail is on the way.
Bernd
Hmm... haven't received anything yet. Did you attach the file to the
mail?
Michael
http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - MusicArtistInfo, MusicInfoSCR,
Smart Mix
mherger's
Oh, like this?
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Code:
[14-10-14 21:09:10.8400] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1343) Warning:
[21:09:10.8398] Image::Scale libjpeg error: Corrupt JPEG data: premature end of
data segment ((data))
[14-10-14
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Wirrunna wrote:
Enhancement - add display local artwork html files, then my scheme
detailed in the my previous post would work for Gordon's bio.html files.
This should work in 0.9.x. Please note that the html/pdf/txt file must
be saved in the same folder as the music track.
Michael
mkkyah wrote:
One of my podcast links is returning no action with max2play setup.
Programs are listed but trying to play clears the playlist and adds
nothing. I've checked with LMS on Qnap and same link is still working
fine.
callesoroe wrote:
There is no On Wimp tags ??? You say there is something wrong with
the Wimp configuration. But where can you change those ?? There
is nothing configurable in settings??
Yes, below the On Last.fm you should have a On WiMP if it was
available:
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(I don't have
Peiter wrote:
How to get Smart Mix to work with music from WiMP, when *not* having a
Deezer account ?
I've been following this thread for a long time, but nothing helps I'm
afraid ...
Peiter - I think I finally figured this one out (thanks callesoroe!):
WiMP uses a different ID for DK
callesoroe wrote:
Hi
All my players are enabled in Wimp on mysqueezebox.com. Even old not
active ones.
Here is a screenshot of the first file startet from wimp, and then the
NeXT ones from my local library added
by smartmix
Unfortunately your second screenshot doesn't show whether there's
redondo_se wrote:
Ah, sorry, it does not. Sorry for not looking at the log first. Seems
to be an issue resolving IP address. I went for the nuclear option
because that fixed issues for me before when I had first tried qobuz
with a trial account before signing up for pay account.
audiomuze wrote:
I've been using Smart Mix extensively over the last week or so and life
it, but am wondering how it chooses tracks from the local library
because I find it tends to favor recently added albums as well as
revisit albums it has previously chosen tracks from - my library is
get.amped wrote:
The only thing I wish I could do from those screens would be to directly
search my library for the artist in the list, maybe by clicking on an
icon next to the name.
I think LMS should in general support better integration of search
facilities from tracks etc. It's something
CommanderROR wrote:
UPDATE2: Not all Wimp Titles are available as FLAC, but it seems like
your Plugin is favouring the mp3 ones, or there is a really big
coincidence at work here, because only every 5th or so title is in FLAC
format. Might be Wimps fault though. I did not know that their
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the
results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101145
Question:
Hmm... could you please restart LMS just to make sure? Then enable
debugging for plugin.smartmix, play around with it and see whether
server.log has some pointers wrt. Rhapsody?
Michael
http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - MusicArtistInfo, MusicInfoSCR,
Smart Mix
Tony - are you even using any of the other services listed (Deezer,
MOG)?
Michael
http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - MusicArtistInfo, MusicInfoSCR,
Smart Mix
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axelwin wrote:
My NAS is quite new (Synology 214 with CPU Marvell Armada XP @ 1,06 GHz
dual core) and should not be overflowed so easily ?
What is your perl string as found in LMS Settings/Information?
Michael
http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - MusicArtistInfo, MusicInfoSCR,
Smart Mix
CommanderROR wrote:
My Raspberry Pi is taking a long time searching now, and the results
don't really seem any better than before, just different, so I'd like to
turn the new algorithm off for now to make Qobuz more useable...
What is your perl string as found in LMS Settings/Information?
redondo_se wrote:
Would it be possible for you guys to sort search results? I think I saw
Michael complain about qobuz's search results somewhere in this thread.
You could use levenshtein distance in your algorithm so the closest
matches are sorted to the top.
Thanks a lot for that hint.
CommanderROR wrote:
UPDATE: I found the log. Apparently the module could not be loaded.
Can't locate Text Levenshtein.pm
Could you please give the full message? What OS are you running this on?
Michael
http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - MusicArtistInfo, MusicInfoSCR,
Smart Mix
Linez wrote:
I've loaded the the link http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins/repo.xml;
and the system comes back with the following:
You shouldn't need to add this repository manually. Please restart LMS
without restarting the NAS. If this still doesn't work, then check your
NAS' networking
Yes, artist artwork is pulled from last.fm. Unfortunately there is some
picture spamming going on there: as these are sorted by popularity,
some people are having fun uploading nonsense pictures and upping them
by votes. This is particularly popular with, well, popular artists,
obviously. As
jimbobvfr400 wrote:
Just one more question if I may, the settings to exclude part, will that
ignore the whole song or just strip that part from the entry. For
example Absolute Radio in the attached screenshot. If I add adbreak
and back-soon will that eliminate most non song entries in the
netchord wrote:
i have a Transporter and a Touch (and two booms, and two Radios). if I
play a streaming qobuz track in Flac on the transporter, it will stop
and start for a while, before eventually settling down and playing
without a problem. playing it on the touch is flawless.
if i
Here's something else to play with:
What Was That Tune? - Keep track of what was playing while you were too
busy to check the display.
How often did it happen to you that you were listening to some radio
station, heard a great track, but didn't have a chance to check the
display to figure out
matka wrote:
Would it be possible to somehow make the pdf viewable when streaming an
album ? Witht the growing popularity of tablets as controlers, or even
larger smart phones, this would improve the streaming experience.
Which app are you using on your tablet? I'm not even sure any other
This list is .. not handy. Who thinks of albumname first?
Me! Dark side of the moon - no need to think about the artist. It's a
classic! :-P
Ok, I see your point. I think I was looking at the wrong change all the
time: you don't care about the favorites menu now being split into
Cfo92130 wrote:
I have just installed your latest version 1.88. It s great performance
improvement on the PI !!!.
God to know. Thanks for the feedback.
Michael
http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - MusicArtistInfo, MusicInfoSCR,
Smart Mix
You most likely have a networking issue on your bad. Try to ping Myanmar
from its console. Double check DNS.
Michael
http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - MusicArtistInfo, MusicInfoSCR,
Smart Mix
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Heh... Long live autocorrection (and me not noticing on my phone's
display :-)). What I meant was mysqueezebox.com.
Michael
http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - MusicArtistInfo, MusicInfoSCR,
Smart Mix
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Cfo92130, lurchi
Are both of you running raspbian and a standard lms. deb package? I
wonder whether our xml browser is running in pure Perl mode.
Michael
http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - MusicArtistInfo, MusicInfoSCR,
Smart Mix
ASenna04 wrote:
Slim::Player::Song::Open (409) Error: Couldn't create command line for
flc playback for [qobuz://11181275]
Did you modify your transcoding settings? What kind of player are you
using? Check the transcoding settings.
And please enable debugging for player.source and
Badatruc wrote:
Information for the pluging used is that found in this link:
http://www.pierrebeck.fr/SqueezeboxQobuz/repo.xml
Do not use that repository directly. It's sometimes outdated. Remove it
from your plugin settings and enable all plugins instead. This should
always give you the
DonMac wrote:
Thank you. I can now get RadioIO through TuneIn on my Logitech UE Smart
Radio. However, I'm a RadioIO subscriber, and when I try to get RadioIO
through My Apps (to get my subscription stream without commercials) I
get the message Fetching track details ... Error: No items
frozzers wrote:
I have exactly the same problem as Mark, although sometimes I get Space
Cadet by Robyn Steward ARRAY. I'm also on a Mac with Mavericks using
Safari.
Could you please confirm the plugin version you're using?
Michael
http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - MusicArtistInfo,
nervoteso wrote:
Smartmix has just stopped working it says 'failed to create playlist'.
Any news about this issue?
smartmix came back working after uninstalling quobuz plugin.
Oh crap... I added some experimental code to support music services
which are not officially supported by the
Badatruc wrote:
Hello,
I'm french so I used the google translator for you really old typewriter
. I apologize
What was the French original text? It might be easier to understand than
Google's interpretation :-)
Michael
http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - MusicArtistInfo, MusicInfoSCR,
R stands for read, w for write and x for execution. In your case you can
see that only the owner has write permission. You could run chown -R
777 on that folder.
Michael
http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - MusicArtistInfo, MusicInfoSCR,
Smart Mix
nervoteso wrote:
lms is still scanning cover lookup, since 2 48 hoursit is stopped at
498 on 1368
do i need 7.8 to find covers online?
No, coverart lookup should work just fine with 7.7. But as always:
without a scanner.log file (best with plugin.musicartistinfo enabled) I
can't say a
Thanks for the heads up! I don't know whether I've hit a bug in the
forum software or what... and I vaguely remember it happened before: I
wanted to delete a posting I did (test, test, 1, 2), but the whole
thread disappeared. Luckily enough (and with that other event in the
back of my mind) I
slartibartfast wrote:
If I use dir -m
Bj�rk appears as Bj\303\266rk
Mot�rhead appears as Mot\303\266rhead
Milo� Karadagli� appears as Milo\305\241\ Karadagli\304\207
Is this the forum breaking those characters or is this what you see
indeed?
dir on Linux? What about ls?
Michael
This sounds like something I wanted to do for a long time! Excellent!
Will have to give this a try asap. But just from looking at the code I
fear installation will be a bit involved, as it has some dependencies
Joe Doe will have a hard time to satisfy...
Michael
slartibartfast wrote:
LMS on squeezeplug running Debian, editing on Windows. Files transferred
using freefilesync via samba.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk
Did you eventually transfer the artist pictures folder using samba as
well? If so: do the files look ok on the Debian box itself
callesoroe wrote:
Is it possible to get Wimp in the smartmix options ??
No, not at this point. It's not me providing that information, but I'm
using whatever TEN is providing. As they don't have the WiMP track
information available, I can't mix them yet.
That said it might be possible to add
Mark,
there are several issues with your scanner. SmartMix not working might
just be one small of them. First of all please run a full wipe rescan.
The log you sent me reports 72 new tracks. This can't be all your
collection. Then disable artwork import in the iTunes plugin. It fills
you log
slartibartfast wrote:
The drive is FAT32 to maintain compatibility with Windows. I think it
was originally mounted using fstab but to be honest I have no clue about
Linux and just followed Truehl's instructions for his squeezeplug image
and everything has worked perfectly until now.
Sent
slartibartfast wrote:
I copied the folder over the network using samba. I also tried creating
it using mkdir in putty. Neither way seemed to work. When I ran the
chmod commands no errors were thrown up but also no evidence that the
permissions had changed. Can I check what the permissions
slartibartfast wrote:
I've given up trying to get LMS to write to any folder so I've started
to manually populate the artwork folder. I've tried Filezilla, Putty and
a desktop version of ubuntu and nothing works.
Your postings are a bit confusing. Previously you said that you
transfered the
v0.7.0 is out (mostly for 7.8 users only):
- automatic cover art download
- improved artist artwork download: only download artwork for artists
shown in the Artists menu
- keep keep copy of downloaded artwork in user definable folder, to
speed up subsequent scans and let the user tweak the
These errors smell like networking issues. Is your connection flaky
today?
Michael
http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - MusicArtistInfo, MusicInfoSCR,
Smart Mix
mherger's Profile:
Music Artist Information plugin v0.6.0 is on its way to you. New and
noteworthy:
- show artist artwork not only in the web, but the player UI as well
as most mobile apps
- add support for local artist pictures: go to settings to define a
folder where you'd want to store artist images.
pberger wrote:
Code:
[13-10-28 22:23:26.7715] Slim::bootstrap::tryModuleLoad (289) Warning:
Module [Plugins::LMSnewGUI::Plugin] failed to load:
Type of arg 1 to push must be array (not hash element) at
matka wrote:
Would you be able to share some detail of what the problem was ? I know
qobuz will roll out officially it's services to a bunch of European
countries, is that somehow related ?
Whether the changes in their API were due to the imminent launch I don't
know. But they now handle
Oh, and many thanks go to Loris at Qobuz who provided me a free
subscription within a few minutes! Otherwise I wouldn't have been able
to fix this.
Michael
http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - MusicArtistInfo, MusicInfoSCR,
Smart Mix
pinkdot wrote:
Very Nice addition to LMS I must say. Thx. Welk hoping this will be pick
up by third party devellopers like Orange Squeeze :-)
I think I have a solution which would work with all clients using
standard menus. OrangeSqueeze would be among them as well as the
players, the web Ui,
Ok, Music Artist Info v. 0.5.1 is out there, on its way to you. In order
to take advantage of the fancy new features you'll have to install LMS
7.8 later than October 10.
New features:
- Extention to the Default skin to show artist pictures on the artist
page (7.8 only)
- Provide simple
Wirrunna wrote:
New feature: add modified Default skin to show artist pictures in web
UI.
Heh... this isn't released yet :-). Did you add my repository file to
your list?
Does it work for you (you'd have to select the MusicArtistInfo skin
manually in Settings/Interface)? I only updated my
As I said it's not ready for prime time yet. And it requires the latest
7.8 nightly build(!). But here's what you would get (among some
potential other uses):
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I'm happy to announce the Music Artist Information plugin v0.1.0. As I
got increasingly frustrated with the ugly code for the AlbumReview and
Biography plugins, I decided to start from scratch and create something
better. It should not only be easier to maintain, but offer new
features and be
futura wrote:
I know this is a dreadfully late reply - but great suggestions, and
thank you.
Hey... how did I miss your response? Just returned home from a run and
enjoyed your app once again. Thought I'd give you another thumbs up...
just to realize that I never responded to your posting?!?
Today I received these lines from the TEN developers:
We are releasing an update to our API that may affect your application.
Here's what's changing:
As described in our API documentation here:
http://developer.echonest.com/docs/v4/catalog.html#update
our catalog (a.k.a. Taste
Manawatu wrote:
I had a brief, exuberant romp with Smartmix vers 1.20/1.22. It worked
perfectly on my reliable old ReadyNAS Duo (sparc) running Server 7.6.2.
Then the plugin auto-updated to vers 1.24 and hasnt given me joy since.
Did you change anything else since? Added new music? I see
I've just uploaded v1.1.0 of the Radio Paradise plugin which adds
support for the HD slideshow. Bring up the menu from the Now Playing
screen to enable/disable it. It's suspended while you Play Something
Different, and should pick up again as soon as the main stream is being
played.
Enjoy!
I released another update the Bandcamp plugin. Here's what has been
added recently (oh well, this year):
- support for fan pages: if you have your fan page, then you can easily
access your wishlist, followers etc.
- support for the new Weekly show: play the full weekly show as one
playlist
Have
Otto-Wilhelm - the log says Es wurden keine passenden Lieder
gefunden.. Would you have tracks you consider disco style? Would you
see the same issue with other recipes as well? The pre-defined recipes
are rather simplistic and can easily fail if you don't have the matching
music.
nervoteso wrote:
just updated to 1.2.3 and plugin doesn't work qnymore, it says fail to
create playlist, can you help me?
Could you please enable debugging in Settings/Advanced/Logging for
plugin.smartmix, then try again and see what server.log says?
Otto-Wilhelm wrote:
However, when I try to start a mix, the message Es wurden keine
passenden Lieder gefunden (No suitable songs were found) is given.
Also the interactive creation of mixes does´t work. If I enter an
artist, no corresponding songs are shown.
Could you please enable
rienm wrote:
In version 1.81 I could not see the public playlists, hoped that 1.82
would have solved that problem .
But I get the following remark: [SERVER]server returned error: request
failed with error: bad dispatch !
Can I do something about it?
Y.S. Rien
I'm sorry, no, nothing
slartibartfast wrote:
I've just updated to 1.2.3 and Don't Stop The Music doesn't work
properly anymore. It generates new tracks when the track fourth from the
end of the playlist begins but it then deletes the last three songs and
plays the new songs instead. This didn't happen with 1.2.2.
erland wrote:
If you change the url in the future it's good if you inform, me, Triode
or mherger and ask us to change the url which is used to generate the
official repositories, this will make it easier for new users to find
your plugin since it appears in the plugin list in LMS Settings
I released Smart Mix v1.2.0. What's new?
- Don't Stop the Music feature: optionally start a Smart Mix based
on the last track in a playlist/album/queue when the end of the list
is reached. Please note that this won't be triggered if you're playing
some radio station or have repeat
I wanted to let you know that I just release version 1.1.0 of the Smart
Mix plugin. Among a few bug fixes and improvements to protect our tight
query rate there are a few major enhancements:
- Add a Recommendation preset for users with an online music
service subscription: this mix will
I just released SmartMix 1.0.0. The only changes on top of previous
releases are:
- I unified the Blender's Play static list and Play this recipe into
Play this mix. The two options we had before were causing quite some
confusion when people changed the music source settings. The new Play
this
I don't have the answer right now, but I know that there have always
been discrepancies between what qobuz exposed in their apps and what was
returned through the api. I'm out this week - will see what I find when
I'm back.
raven22 wrote:
same issue here with .97, there is also nothing in the
smartmix-missing.log (which used to have quite a few entries)
Every smartmix gives same 'no matching entries found'.
Did you run a rescan after the update? It should not be necessary, just
asking.
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