Re: SMTP Error with Thunderbird with remote Ubuntu Server 16.04

2016-12-01 Thread Bill Cole
On 1 Dec 2016, at 13:47, rich.gre...@hushmail.com wrote: On 11/28/2016 at 4:56 PM, "Bill Cole" wrote: [...] I made modifications to the master.cf file. To get one, you need an entry similar to this in your master.cf file: submission inet n

Re: SMTP Error with Thunderbird with remote Ubuntu Server 16.04

2016-12-01 Thread rich . greder
Okay, I'm made some exciting progress and I am grateful for the help. I will show to people how I got this working At first thought, I figured that it would simply be the IMAP password used by Dovecot to access my mailbox. Not exactly true... I did some digging in some blogs and the

Re: SMTP Error with Thunderbird with remote Ubuntu Server 16.04

2016-12-01 Thread rich . greder
On 11/28/2016 at 4:56 PM, "Bill Cole" wrote: > >On 28 Nov 2016, at 17:29, rich.gre...@hushmail.com wrote: > >> I changed it. When I compose and send to an outside domain now, >I get >> an error that hints towards port 25 being strongly preferred

Re: SMTP Error with Thunderbird with remote Ubuntu Server 16.04

2016-11-28 Thread Rodrigo Cunha
Texto em portugues: Pelo que eu entendi você está com problemas para enviar e-mails partindo do thunderbird; não sei se compreendi o motivo do teste de DNS mas me parece que você quer confirmar o MX. Em geral a porta segura do SMTP é a 465, o gmail utiliza a 587. Utilizando a lógica seu dominio

Re: SMTP Error with Thunderbird with remote Ubuntu Server 16.04

2016-11-28 Thread Bill Cole
On 28 Nov 2016, at 17:29, rich.gre...@hushmail.com wrote: I changed it. When I compose and send to an outside domain now, I get an error that hints towards port 25 being strongly preferred over 587. Sending of the message failed. The message could not be sent because connecting to Outgoing

Re: SMTP Error with Thunderbird with remote Ubuntu Server 16.04

2016-11-28 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 04:29:58PM -0600, rich.gre...@hushmail.com wrote: > >Did you also fix the key_file setting? > > Yes, I did. Good, at this point STARTTLS is working on port 25. > >You have received headers and logs that should indicate how the > >mail it sent entered your mailbox. You

Re: SMTP Error with Thunderbird with remote Ubuntu Server 16.04

2016-11-28 Thread rich . greder
On 11/28/2016 at 3:25 PM, "Viktor Dukhovni" wrote: > >On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 02:59:22PM -0600, rich.gre...@hushmail.com >wrote: > >> >>smtpd_tls_cert_file=/etc/letsencrypt/live/example.com/fullchain.pe >m >> >>

Re: SMTP Error with Thunderbird with remote Ubuntu Server 16.04

2016-11-28 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 02:59:22PM -0600, rich.gre...@hushmail.com wrote: > >smtpd_tls_cert_file=/etc/letsencrypt/live/example.com/fullchain.pem > >> smtpd_tls_key_file=/etcletsencrypt/live/example.com/privkey.pem > > > >The key file setting seems to have a typo. > > > >> smtpd_use_tls=yes > > >

Re: SMTP Error with Thunderbird with remote Ubuntu Server 16.04

2016-11-28 Thread rich . greder
On 11/28/2016 at 1:28 PM, "Viktor Dukhovni" wrote: > >> On Nov 28, 2016, at 2:13 PM, rich.gre...@hushmail.com wrote: >> >> # TLS parameters >> smtpd_tls_loglevel = 1; > >If that ';' is really there, get rid of it. > Got rid of it. C habits are hard to break. Good

Re: SMTP Error with Thunderbird with remote Ubuntu Server 16.04

2016-11-28 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
> On Nov 28, 2016, at 2:13 PM, rich.gre...@hushmail.com wrote: > > # TLS parameters > smtpd_tls_loglevel = 1; If that ';' is really there, get rid of it. > smtpd_tls_cert_file=/etc/letsencrypt/live/example.com/fullchain.pem > smtpd_tls_key_file=/etcletsencrypt/live/example.com/privkey.pem The

Re: SMTP Error with Thunderbird with remote Ubuntu Server 16.04

2016-11-28 Thread rich . greder
Okay, Victor, thanks for the stats in the second email! That is quite interesting to read. I have only recently (this summer) heard of LetsEncrypt.org. Up until that point, I had expected that I was condemned by powers-that-be to buy a key annually forever. Oh yeah, I love the "smoke and

Re: SMTP Error with Thunderbird with remote Ubuntu Server 16.04

2016-11-28 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 07:29:15PM +0100, Florian Piekert wrote: > I use the same certificate for postfix, apache, dovecot, proftpd, etc... > (from cacert.org). The cacert.org root CA's MD5 self-signature tends to trigger inteoperability problems. You're typically better off with some other

Re: SMTP Error with Thunderbird with remote Ubuntu Server 16.04

2016-11-28 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 12:18:09PM -0600, rich.gre...@hushmail.com wrote: > Okay, I am already using letsencrypt.org for my port 443 traffic. So once > I have it extended to also cover SMTP on port 587, would it be acceptable > to disable port 25, or is port 25 still needed (perhaps to suggest to

Re: SMTP Error with Thunderbird with remote Ubuntu Server 16.04

2016-11-28 Thread Florian Piekert
Am 28.11.2016 um 19:18 schrieb rich.gre...@hushmail.com: > Okay, I am already using letsencrypt.org for my port 443 traffic. So > once I have it extended to also cover SMPT on port 587, would it be > acceptable to disable port 25, or is port 25 still needed (perhaps to > suggest to clients that

Re: SMTP Error with Thunderbird with remote Ubuntu Server 16.04

2016-11-28 Thread Florian Piekert
Am 28.11.2016 um 18:57 schrieb rich.gre...@hushmail.com: Hello, it looks Thunderbird can't validate the certificate the mailserver is using. The dialogue you refer to is normal. What I recommend to my folks when using my servers is to simply "accept it" and get done with it (happens every 6

Re: SMTP Error with Thunderbird with remote Ubuntu Server 16.04

2016-11-28 Thread rich . greder
Okay, I am already using letsencrypt.org for my port 443 traffic. So once I have it extended to also cover SMPT on port 587, would it be acceptable to disable port 25, or is port 25 still needed (perhaps to suggest to clients that it isn't accepting any traffic except 587) I have to admit, I

Re: SMTP Error with Thunderbird with remote Ubuntu Server 16.04

2016-11-28 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 11:57:44AM -0600, rich.gre...@hushmail.com wrote: > Nov 28 18:35:14 example postfix/smtpd[1293]: connect from > 69-179-xxx-yyy.dyn.centurytel.net[69.179.xxx.yyy] > Nov 28 18:35:16 example postfix/smtpd[1293]: warning: TLS library problem: > error:14094418:SSL

Re: SMTP Error with Thunderbird with remote Ubuntu Server 16.04

2016-11-28 Thread rich . greder
I should make clear in the post that u...@example.com is the IMAP mailbox name and that m...@example.com is a virtual alias. This machine hosts about 8 domains and has, I think, three mailboxes. I am the sole user of the email system. On 11/28/2016 at 11:58 AM, rich.gre...@hushmail.com wrote:

Re: SMTP Error with Thunderbird with remote Ubuntu Server 16.04

2016-11-28 Thread rich . greder
Okay, I am really curious how this works then. Good catch on the 'www' test. I winged it without reading the manpage. I've never known a good starting point for learning DNS, so that is definitely a weak point. So, now that the DNS is out of the way. I'm going to dig deeper here. When I

Re: SMTP Error with Thunderbird with remote Ubuntu Server 16.04

2016-11-28 Thread Noel Jones
On 11/28/2016 9:07 AM, rich.gre...@hushmail.com wrote: > Hello, > > First, email has been working fine on this server for past several months > while using the Squirrelmail web client located on the same server. I am > needing an alternative method to access mail services and decided, on a

SMTP Error with Thunderbird with remote Ubuntu Server 16.04

2016-11-28 Thread rich . greder
Hello, First, email has been working fine on this server for past several months while using the Squirrelmail web client located on the same server. I am needing an alternative method to access mail services and decided, on a whim, to try Thunderbird. Thunderbird interacted with the Dovecot

Re: SMTP Error with Thunderbird with remote Ubuntu Server 16.04

2016-11-28 Thread rich . greder
Okay, I accidentally sent this half-composed. But yes. I was able to send via SMTP, but only if my destination address was on my machine (which is probably good) Maybe since I sent this, I let people deliver their opinions on if this is an MX record issue first. Thanks Rick On 11/28/2016