>>>A single short message takes minutes to retrieve, and PowerMail
>>>beachballs and is unusable during that time.
>>
>>You can take a sample of the PowerMail process using Activity Monitor
>>(while it is unresponsive), and send it to me. If you are using
>>SpamSieve, you can also sample it if it
I've just tried exporting my PowerMail address book. All appears to
have worked but there is no indication as to where the exported file is.
I've tried searching the likely places but to no avail.
Has anyone any ideas as to where it might be.
I usually try exporting again, but when it gets to
Screen 2 Format - Apple Address Book
You left this bit out of your original post, no? :)
I don't bother with Apple's Address book, so I've likely never seen that
behavior.
Chris
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For the past few months, whenever I connect to get mail, Powermail stops
after 4-10 messages. I connect again, and it will do some more
messages, then stop. Anyone else see this, and does anyone know what I
should be doing different to make it behave better?
This happens to me as well. Today it
...
As far as the spinning beach ball goes, I don't think it would be too
bad. I just checked my attachments folder. It has just under 3,000
items and it took less than 5 seconds to display.
That is 4.7 seconds too long! :)
I have the last of
the white iMacs (circa 2007) with the maximum
I have 13,795 items in my Attachments folders, going back to 2003. I'm
convinced that many of them are orphans. I wish there was a way to clean
them out.
I wonder if there's a way to identify orphans?
Anyone know of one? Perhaps CTM has a suggestion?
Is there is any technical problem to putting
Sending a message to the list takes weeks to get even an
error message.
I've had 10 messages this month, difficult to know if there have been more.
Apparently you sent this two hours after I sent my reply... three days ago.
Just got yours now and never received my own reply to the list,
Is anyone at home at this list?
Support isn't working, submitting a bug doesn't get a result. Sending a
message to the list takes weeks to get even an error message.
It's like their mail server steadily drops people and gets a manual
reboot every few weeks.
Rather quiet at my end with just 54
I'm now using PM6 and I went to drag a URL into my e-mail and instead of
being entered into my text document it becomes an attachment, same thing
happens with clippings.
This is wrong.
I can confirm this. I thought it was a fluke when it happened the other
day, but I guess not after deliberately
However, some HTML-messages end up as attachments only, which is a big
problem IMHO. Some problems with this:
? The PM built-search index won't contain the data as it's only
available in an external file. Thus, information in these attached files
won't turn up in any searches.
? The information
If you have a specific HTML message that cause this problem, please send
me it's raw source (from Mail.app or a webmail access) as an attached
file, so I can see if a workaround can be found, and send a report to Apple.
Sign up for a Yahoo! Group in HTML digest format and you'll get one
every
It's possible some settings have to be similar as well. I have the HTML-
interpreter activated, also when there's pure text. I huse the Gills
Sans font. I display attachments in preview. Indexing in background. I
use SpamSieve.
I have used the swedish language during tests, will try with english
I forgot to ask, are there any messages in the Console app when you this
problem occurs? Please chime in you others that have had the same
problem, with your observations.
Start PowerMail.
Select a message with Content-Type: text/html (in a view with a
preview pane).
Command-H PowerMail refuses
From PM I can't hide PM anymore.
If I use Hide others from the Finder or Pathfinder, PM gets hidden, but
it won't unhide anymore - the icon does, but neither the menu bar nor
the windows will come to the front.
I'm experiencing the same...
I'm still on Tiger, but immediately after launching PM I
PM displays whatever you've selected as your preference, and when
you want to see the other part of the mail, there is a pop-up menu
allowing you to select that. What else could PM possibly do, I wonder?
Ability to select text in HTML view and scrub it to the visual/text-
appearing part as a
This seems to be some new behavior I haven't noticed in PowerMail:
In the Recent Mail window, when I click on any column heading or the up/
down sort arrow on the right, the list is re-sorted and all read mail is
removed from the window. I don't want it removed from the window.
Is this something
... the list is re-sorted and all read mail is removed from the window.
I don't want it removed from the window.
Is this something I just never noticed before or did I click a checkbox
somewhere? It's very annoying.
Not seeing this... Is it a View Unread behavior?
Shift-Command-A (View All) to
Strangely enough, I've gotten one -- maybe two -- today and also have not
gotten one in a very long time. Am logging on via webmail to delete email,
but haven't narrowed to which one yet.
Well, I haven't recently but the last time I had a true crasher e-mail
was years ago.
Solution was to see
Today when i looked into my Out Tray it was completely blank. The
information at the bottom said there were 904 messages with zero
displayed. ...
From the menubar, try: View View All (shift-command-A).
You may have enabled View Unread (shift-command-U) by accident. It can
be enabled on a
So no sooner do I think it's over, when suddenly PowerMail refuses to
hide, again.
I wasn't fishing around in the spam folder, so that wasn't it.
I had received only a few messages this morning, so I questioned the
likely suspects.
One that triggers it (maybe more) is from a Yahoo! Group
I do have some Yahoo! Groups subscriptions, but have yet to encounter
the does not hide bug.
For most every list I'm on, I've requested the plain text version. The
particular one that gave me a headache this morning had switched the
subscription to HTML version last May, with no opt-out notice I
Another Yahoo! Group I'm subscribed to didn't make this switch to an
HTML format.
You should be able to control this. Go to the group's page and choose
'Edit Membership'. You should be able to select how to monitor the
group (web only, individual emails, digest, etc) and below that, you can
However, I'm consistently suffering from the does not show bug ...
I ran into this also in December, which I described on the list as a
'Focus Problem'.
Ah, that's what that was referring to.
/have spent too much time hammering command-H
Chris
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Round Three:
I went back through old list messages regarding this bug. Some version
of the hiding bug has been observed since PowerMail 5.0 beta 12. This
leads me to believe this was introduced in PowerMail 5.0. Possible
causes of this bug mentioned on the PowerMail Discussion List over the
years
I've noticed this behavior with aperture, YEP! and Powermail, so I
suspect the issue isn't 100% powermail related, but somehow related to
it and and system interation. ...
I wonder if Aperture and YEP! had any hiding problems in 10.3 and 10.4?
Then I'd be inclined to call it an OS X problem. Or
BTW: iTunes is refusing to hide for me right at this very moment. I
note that both PowerMail and iTunes are Carbon apps
NOooo... :O !!!
Does the window grey out and menubar become inactive? Or maybe less
shadow is the Leopard inactive look...
Or will Apple care about a Tiger problem now
Probably not a PM problem at all -- or something
that is now becoming noticed?
Except that PowerMail is the only one that has the problem with not hiding.
It tried the restart last night and then tried to spam-button PM into
staying visible, but no luck. So the restart worked...
... till this
How to reproduce PowerMail hiding bug:
Scenario 1:
1. In the Mail Browser, have selected a message that _you_ have
identified as spam by pressing the spam button in the toolbar.
2. Hit Command-H with the message selected.
Result: PowerMail should hide as expected.
Scenario 2:
1. In the Mail
... only after I hit the identify spam button.
Windows for the Mail Brower and Recent Mail Window grey out but don't
disappear.
Can anyone else confirm this?
OS X 10.4.11 on Intel
Chris
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Which version of PM are you using?
Maybe updating to 5.6.1 would also fix the problem.
(I updated after the system change)
I am using 5.6.1 unfortunately, which I thought _was_ the fix! :)
I'm on 10.4.8 PPC so I can't verify. However, usually IME this kind of
problem is OS-oriented and
The problem is that setting css on that text to 1px isn't working,
obviously. This is pretty off-topic so off list discussion might be
more appropriate. Any suggestion would be appreciated.
I don't have the URL handy, but target that text block and
{ display: none; }
should get rid of it.
Power Mail 5.5.2 would download a
couple of messages and then crash with the The application Power
Mail has unexpectedly quit... message. This happens now every time I
try to retrieve mail.
Do you have webmail access to the account? Via webmail or even another
mail program, clear off a few
Does anyone have a sense of PowerMail's compatibility with the soon-to-
be-released OS 10.5?
Yes: http://www.ctmdev.com/documentation/Read_me.html
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I find this to be something of a problem, because I want to do regular
backups, but I *don't* want to regularly shut down PM -- due to the
clearing of the Recent Mail Window. (My person soapbox that one, I know,
but it's a substantial problem for me).
I have considered simply preventing any
BUT if the volume were 10 times the current level, even at
better quality, I'd unsubscribe.
Actually, this list has been very quiet this year.
I miss the eyeball discussions. ;)
Chris
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This is the article I couldn't find this morning about Mac backup software:
http://blog.plasticsfuture.org/2006/04/23/mac-backup-software-harmful/
Chris
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if I'm not wrong, SuperDuper! is only a GUI to resync.
imho it does not work fully with network volumes, and that's were you
want to have your backup.
There was some article comparing backup solutions, SuperDuper was the
only one to preserve modification dates (or such). I think it also said
I would hate to lose the built in backup/restore
of TB! which has been used to move across
computers and has always worked beautifully.
Maybe I haven't followed this closely enough (and I've not used TheBat!)
but...
You know PowerMail can export the message database (or parts of it, by
folder)
I'm wondering about the foxtrot list if that is alive. ...
anyone else on that list?
No one here but us FoxTrot list members. :)
But I am surprised at the lull in PM list activity.
Chris
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No, silly. Your response was at the bottom. But the following reply was
at the top. I was just replying after that to suggest in the ultimate
scheme of things it really doesn't matter.
Hmmm... I don't know. I kinda like responses at the bottom.
Did I suggest responses can't go at the bottom?
p.s.
Moreover, encouraging users to put new content at the top of an email
makes it much easier to parse new information out of the latest email in
a trail of emails; since most non-technical email users (now the vast
majority) don't know about commenting and inline responses, suggesting
that new
But after Quit and re-launching, it winds up four pixels down,
four pixels from the left. Other windows shift slightly too.
Is this the OS doing that?
Is your Dock pinned to the left? I have mine pinned to the top and lots
of programs scoot their windows slightly away from the menubar.
Chris
I was getting a bit disheartened about feature progress etc. I guess
this is why. Am I to understand that development will now focus on
improving the feature set?
I've no time to tinker with it now, but does this version preserve non-
contiguous selection of items in a list via click-and-drag?
How could-he when PM crashs?
Duh... :embarassed:
The Help menu item generates a message to this address:
PowerMail support [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with contents:
PowerMail support case [random six character identifier, e.g. #LSLWYH]
PowerMail version: [e.g.: PowerMail version 5.2.3 build 4406
How do I get it to CTM. I've not had any luck contacting them.
From the menubar:
Help Send a Message to PowerMail Support...
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I never got that one. Barring this message and the reply to it, the last
message I received was from June 22nd. Makes me wonder what else I missed.
For the record, the subject was: Re: Odd Toolbar Icon from Don V.
Zahniser.
I count just five messages from 25 Jun in one thread using yahoo
Who said anything about draft? I was referring to incoming
messages.
You didn't specify and the cursor is typically not a navigational
tool for incoming messages, but an editing tool. You don't typically
edit incoming.
The cursor may imply editing, but it also has the use of selecting,
Thus Smart Folders are VERY much like using filters
... You say if I can assign these criteria to each folder instead within
*the filter window*, this will leave me with less clutter in *the filter
window*. Read that sentence again. Is it correct? If so, what did you
actually mean? It's
Off the top of my head, I would simply reserve a section of the
folder list for Smart Folders, in between the In/Out Trays and the
'regular' folders.
This is not necessarily a good solution, unless the different
characteristics of a smart folder are clearly indicated.
Smart folders should have
I'm afraid I can't agree... the list is public, isn't it? And public
means, well, public. :)
Since when does public mean let's leave out everyones email addresses
out for the spambots? Wooly thinking.
Not e-mail addresses (those were certain to be removed), but that one's
name appearing
I'm not talking about overhauling it and making it unrecognizable. I'm
talking about modernizing it - that should be done in a Mac app every
year or so (especially with the moving UI target that OS X is).
Yes, moving target. Apple recently hired Mike Matas (of Delicious
Monster fame) for
The correct approach is to honour command-click on the address (or URL)
to compose the message (or launch the site). Double-clicking should
select the text, like we are used to in any other text-editing context.
Here, here! (insert smiley tapping a gavel)
Chris
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I don't mind that updates are name thusly after the version:
pm521.dmg and wish that CTM would follow that convention.
I second this. It makes keeping track of installer backups so much easier.
Chris
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No, I don't think it was ever promoted as free for life.
It's hard to imagine any responsible company going out on a limb like that.
Oh, for the corporate promises of the 90s...
/nostalgia :)
Chris
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There are also a number of members from a yahoo group which
are regularly labeled with a minimum spam rate. After marking
them as good, SS keeps marking them with a slight spam rate.
If the yahoo group filter is before the SpamSieve filters and files them
into their proper destination, do you
On a related not about file references, I've noticed over time that PM
has lost file reference integrity. An example: I got pics from a ski trip
from a friend; when I went back to find that picture, PM thought the
enclosure was an html file - clearly wrong.
If the mail is older than a few month,
... turn off the darn double-click to launch URL feature so
I can once again easily copy all the dang urls I work with daily.
:) (... if turned off Cmd-Click would launch URL's just as
double-click would).
The double-click behaviour... Somebody please make it go away!
Yes!
/signed
Chris
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Are there any plans to allow Spotlight to search PM messages?
Yes:
POWERMAIL 5.2b3 RELEASE NOTES - APRIL 17th, 2005
--
Features
* PowerMail now supports the searching of its database using
SpotLight (requires Mac OS X 10.4
hmmm... hasn't been updated since 2003. Have you used it?
Actually, no. :) But it's a commonly recommended solution.
Chris
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Anybody know of a good way to export/archive my 10k+ worth of email
messages into a Filemaker database?
John Carlsen's eMessage Archiver:
http://homepage.mac.com/ThinkAgain/Mac/eMA/
Chris
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As far as 9.1, isn't 9.2 a free upgrade?
... No, MacOS 9.2 is not a free upgrade, to my knowledge.
If you have any System 9.x you can update to 9.2.2 for free.
See: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=75288
Chris
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2-Some individuals have given their input (Thanks!) on their OS, PM
version, etc., but quite a few members have not responded, which makes me
wonder whether they are receiving the List as a digest and how often/when
that goes out (?) or whether my question is just being viewed as coming
from a
Anyone know if an archive exists?
Nothing except what is in list members' mail databases. :(
Chris
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I haven't seen any list traffic since last week Thursday. Is this list
still working? Did I get unsubscribed?
Well, I just signed up yesterday and the first list messages are rolling
in now. So far I've received 5, sent last Tuesday through Thursday.
I just received a pile of messages from
Is there another way to index? What am I doing wrong? Or is this common
in PM with large DB's?
...
How do I find the corrupted email? What makes an email be identified as
corrupted? When it is indexing, it crashes towards the end, actually at
the very end of the indexing. Does that mean that it
I saw a note this past week (on MacNN I think) about Bare Bones
Software's TextWrangler being free and at the time I thought it was a
typo. TextWrangler was a rewrite of what used to be their free BBEdit
Lite program.
Came across it again and checked it out. Apparently, it now _is_ free
(links
I was recently sending an EMail ...
Powermail broke it apart like this: first-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
That's why PowerMail automatically puts angle brackets around
e-mail addresses and urls that are copied in -- so when the text
breaks, the mail client can still figure out that the whole thing
is
From what I've seen, PowerMail puts no breaks in incoming mail. I have
some messages here and there that freeflow when the window is resized
(plaintext, not HTML/etc.).
You just contradicted yourself from yesterday: :-)))
PowerMail inserts line breaks in outgoing mail automatically. It's been
I've tried the script above, but I can't get Bbedit to open a new window.
I changed the syntax with
tell application BBEdit Lite 6.1 for OS X
I didn't think this was supported on the Lite version.
Chris
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I ask for this:
Make for sending mails the option-choice for
- to break automaticaly at 78 character
OR
- free flow of characters
And the same option-choice for incoming mails.
From what I've seen, PowerMail puts no breaks in incoming mail. I have
some messages here and there that freeflow when
Where can I stop Powermail to hard wrap the text of my mails? I want
Powermail to send my mails without hard line break.
PowerMail inserts line breaks in outgoing mail automatically. It's been
discussed a few times here. Something official was said by CTM about this
(though I can't find it at
Latest try with renewed OS X - Powermail still quits. Seems to be a bug!
I don't think so.
Watch the subject lines of your mails.
THIS ONE (i didn't repair it) has several lines, separeted by a return.
See header:
---
Subject:
This problem is fixed with release 5.1.
The download I got from the PM 5.1 main download link (faster), namely,
http://homepage.sunrise.ch/mysunrise/ctm/pm5.dmg
gives me a PowerMail _5.0.2_ folder and a PowerMail _5.0.2_ app inside.
Labeled that way anyhow. Didn't run it to find out.
Tried
What *really* happens when Mail Trash is emptied?
Is it Marked as deleted? Or it is actually erased from the mail
database immediately?
It is still in the database somewhere, _but_ once you compact the
database it's gone forever. This is why the database size doesn't
immediately shrink after
Here's something you might try... in your message I just received was an
x-sender header of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe
postoffice.worldnet.att.net is what you need?
I once had an address for a friend that ended in just worldnet.att.net
-- maybe that's all you need? Another option in any case...
Mine was resolved by switching off DragThing - if you have that installed
try disabling it.
What bothers me now: I always thought, that in OSX all the applications
are working in their own areas of the RAM. That fact that the presence of
one affects another app is somewhat irritating.
I
It was in there to specifically exclude HTML-type email. It turns out
that if you get the message content of an HTML message via AppleScript
the content is blank.
Strange!
Jérôme notes (from February 2003):
You can't compose an HTML message with PowerMail, but you can send one!
Create an HTML
P1.jpg (159 Kb) and P2.jpg (129 Kb) are the photographs I sent and will open.
Can anyone explain where the other two came from? My cousin says that
when he tries to open them he gets the message The selected file is not
a valid image file. The image could not be read.
Is it a data/resource fork
DragThing 5.3.x now shows the number of unread messages as a badge over
the PowerMail application icon in the DragThing process dock. I had
customized the icon and thought that was why I wasn't seeing the badge,
till I found that it was only counting unread messages in the In Tray.
Changed a few
... sometimes I have problems to hide PM. Was there a solution?
Like checking to see if you have any third party software that might have
remapped the combination (iKey, Key Xing, Menu Master, etc.)?
Or this discussion?:
Thomas Andersson:
Strange: all of a sudden command+H will not hide PM5.
This is slightly off topic, but back in the days when I used to use
Eudora I recall that in between the options for sending email either as
Plain Text or as HTML, there was a middle option: Rich Text. As I
remember it, this allowed basic text formatting (Bold, italic, increase
size etc) but not
There is an indicator in 2 and 3 pane view. When there is something
filtered, there is a small line next to the horizontal scroll bar that
changes from X messages to Y messages displayed when something is
filtered.
Ok, thanks. But this is too vague. That I missed it is enough to sustain
that
Who is this While Lady Sead is having trouble with. How can I recognise
her and what trouble does she cause?
It's a bug that prevents from indexing your message database correctly,
thus interfering with search function.
Some people never see it, some people can get rid of it and some (like
1) why are most mail wrapped but some not?
Short answer: somewhere in the process, it happens... :)
Long answer: keep reading...
2) where is the wrapping made;
a) sending mail client?
b) sending mail server?
c) receiving mail client?
d) receiving mail server?
Could be all of
What have I forgotten?
Try rebuilding your index manually from the File-Database-Rebuild
Index... function. I doubt it will work but it's worth a try.
Did you try deleting your PowerMail preferences? I don't know where they
are located in OS X, but that's another troubleshooting step that
Can anyone explain what this is about?
Database Error Occurred. I clicked for more info and this appeared: Class
DB, what=7, when=9.
Rebuild the index from the File Database menu.
Chris
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Has anyone been able to successfully configure Netscape 7.1 or Safari 1.2
to use PowerMail 4 as the mailto App?
If anyone knows the config procedure, I'd appreciate it if they would
share it.
This was in my archives (don't recall what's important, so here's the
whole thing):
Chris
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Please,
I am experiencing with PowerMail the inability to send more
than one e-mail at a time. That is, if there are two or more
queued in the Out Tray, only one is sent and a cryptic error
message appears. I can resend all of the remaining, but only
one at a time.
I believe I had a problem like
How to see a long list of BBC recipients AFTER sending the mail? (To
check if I have forgotten one for example.) The long header only reads
Undisclosed recipients; and the shortened header only shows the first
ten recipients.
PowerMail Preferences... Display : Max number of To/CC:
It works as you said, except I get an error. Class='DB ', what=7, when=9,
err=0. I guess immediately deleting a message causes a problem in the
loop or something. Also, the database needs repair before PM will launch
again.
I thought this error was where you had to rebuild the index from the
There have been several mentions on the list of Recent Mail. I have no
such folder, nor any kind of indication for those messages that might
qualify, other than the fact that unread messages and the mailboxes they
reside in are bolded. I've checked preferences, view, and setup and have
found
grrr what did i miss?
I thought it was File Database Rebuild Index... which differs ever
so slightly from the PowerMail First Aid option. As you have no unread/
hidden messages causing this.
Chris
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tass,
You say you sent this from a mailer which only breaks the lines as you
put them in. Let's see if this works. It looked like this to me when I
got it...:
___
I just wanted to take a moment to thank the makers of PowerMail for such
a great
looking program.
So far, things seem to be
Picking up with Chris Walker's post in thread Re(4): Need help finding
features/functions:
But if the sender and the receiver allowed no limit on the line length
would the same have happened? In other words is it PM that chops the
line length on receipt, or does it happen somewhere in between?
P.S. It'll be a long time until I get used to it, but I'm already
trying to work on the command+right/left arrow thing. Thanks for
that, and the rest of the other hints you guys gave. Have fun.
...
big ol' snip
:)
Chris
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As I mentioned earlier, this is my VERY first experience with NOT being able
to decide how MY letter
should look/read. And being used to that kind of basic freedom, it is not
only annoying, it looks
stupid at the other end and makes the writer look like an idiot - like they
never even
Now if we could just figure out what to do with all those darned F
keys
One word: Exposé. :)
Touché!
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For the past 20 years
or so, it has been standard to find cmd-leftarrow to go to the left
margin, cmd-rightarrow to go to the right margin, cmd-uparrow to go to
the top of file, cmd-downarrow to go to the bottom. (Really quite more
intuitive if you ask me)
huh? More intuitive to have to make
- with 10.2 in the Terminal type:
/usr/local/bin/tcpflow -i en0 -c port 80or whatever port you want
oops, I think you also have to -- sudo /usr/local/bin/tcpflow ...
hmmm well, it's that or someone just hit me with the right command. :)
Chris
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Not trueI am interested in the entire MIME streamNothing to do
with HTML.
Already received? Not sure about that.
As you receive it? Here are some non-mailers that let you see the guts:
1. tcpflow 0.2 (free, and worth the donation)
- original
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