Re: VFP7: SQL Passthrough failure

2006-09-28 Thread Chet Gardiner
Can you concatenate? SQLEXEC(field1 + field1) ??? Just a guess David Crooks wrote: I am having a brain drain as I know I have had this issue before. I am trying to add a record to a table and I keep getting error messages that a field could not accept a NULL value. So, I added the

Re: [NF] Buyer beware! (Long)

2006-09-28 Thread Chet Gardiner
Happy ending (sort of). After checking with buyblue.org, I ordered the camera from Amazon yesterday and received it today via UPS. I'll be refusing receipt of the other package when it finally arrives (UPS ground from Brooklyn, NY starting Tues. AM), won't even touch the box - no prints -

RE: [NF] Python - Thinking Differently

2006-09-28 Thread Tristan Leask
Hahaha, not a chance! All it was, was a form with a picture object set as its background. Basically (in vfp)... _screen.picture=some bmp here lol Tristan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions Posted At: 27 September

RE: [NF] Spoofed e-mail

2006-09-28 Thread Andy Davies
I've been afraid of something like this happening to me. ditto - see http://leafe.com/archives/showMsg/323745 - are they actually *allowed* to publish email addresses like that? Andrew Davies  MBCS CITP   - AndyD    8-)#

Re: [OT] Pope stest the world straight.

2006-09-28 Thread Jean Laeremans
On 9/28/06, Nicholas Geti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not a cheap shot. I read the statement; hardly anything inflammatory in my opinion. And a rather oblique statement it was. A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription

[OT]Third Night of Ramadan Rioting in Capital of Europe

2006-09-28 Thread Michael Madigan
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/1384 Boycott Citgo! Tell Hugo to stuff it! http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/1864514 Right Wing Stuff at http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription

RE: [NF] Python - Thinking Differently

2006-09-28 Thread Allen
I thought there was a separate list for Python Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: 27 September 2006 19:32 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] Python - Thinking Differently

RE: [NF] Spoofed e-mail

2006-09-28 Thread Allen
I started to do that but I use a generic address for software and hardware companies. Seems even these cant be trusted either so I will be changing mine to a separate one for each company I deal with in future. Then when one goes bad its just a cut off. Allen -Original Message- From:

[NF] ms Access DDE

2006-09-28 Thread Andy Davies
someone on this list mentions DDE and within minutes I get a call from a user whose [secured] Access database has fallen over: error 8063 The DDE channel is established, but the data exchange wasn't completed in the amount of time specified in the OLE/DDE Timeout setting in the Options dialog

[NF]Hey Americans! 400GB SATA hard drive for $99 !

2006-09-28 Thread Alan Bourke
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=340904ref=cj -- Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription

RE: Cleanup code and Popup menus

2006-09-28 Thread Allen
Cleanup code runs after. It was also the place to put other code. You will need to do the work when the condition is changed. Maybe an assign method on the variables controlling the conditions. Another possible way is make your own popups. Then you can add if codes. Allen -Original

Cleanup code and Popup menus

2006-09-28 Thread Tristan Leask
Morning all... I take it cleanup code doesn't work for popup menus (when using the menu/popup designer)? I have just created a popup which I activate from a button, and in the cleanup code I wanna be able to drop some bars if a particular condition is true. The silly thing is though, the

Visual Studio 2005 / Vista troubles ahead ...

2006-09-28 Thread Alan Bourke
http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2006/09/27/windows_vista_visual_studio_2005/ This is potentially good news for the Eclipse Foundation, as it seems Microsoft developers will need to run different versions of Windows to build applications for new Windows Vista systems plus the millions of PCs running

Re: [NF] Python - Thinking Differently

2006-09-28 Thread Ed Leafe
On Sep 28, 2006, at 4:47 AM, Allen wrote: I thought there was a separate list for Python There is, and that's for discussing Python issues. This is not concerned with a specific problem in Python; rather, it's a discussion of the pros and cons of adding Python to your toolbox as a

Re: [NF] Spoofed e-mail

2006-09-28 Thread Ed Leafe
On Sep 28, 2006, at 4:52 AM, Allen wrote: I have problems with my Linux system as Linux does not seem to allow the cutting of mail and other users. Sh*theads know this and send spam to those addresses. A pitfall of Linux I think. What exactly do you mean by the cutting of mail?

RE: [NF] Spoofed e-mail

2006-09-28 Thread Allen
There is a built in user called mail and it wont allow that to be removed as a user, I think it was a while since I tried. That and root seem to be used by spammers once they find a Linux system. Its not a big deal as I plan to remove the Linux email system and go to win2k3 server but its

RE: [NF] Spoofed e-mail

2006-09-28 Thread Alan Bourke
On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 12:52:11 +0100, Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] . That and root seem to be used by spammers once they find a Linux system. What, like 'administrator' in the Windows server world? Surely it's incorrect security setup that is the problem, not the fact that there is a 'root' or

[OT] Why are our troops dying for these people?

2006-09-28 Thread Ed Leafe
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060928/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ iraqi_opinion;_ylt=AqK15PHCnfvxtunZp4imyT1I2ocA;_ylu=X3oDMTA5aHJvMDdwBHN lYwN5bmNhdA-- ( -or- http://tinyurl.com/kuv7n ) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - About six in 10 Iraqis say they approve of attacks

Re: [OT] Why are our troops dying for these people?

2006-09-28 Thread Jean Laeremans
On 9/28/06, Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060928/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ iraqi_opinion;_ylt=AqK15PHCnfvxtunZp4imyT1I2ocA;_ylu=X3oDMTA5aHJvMDdwBHN lYwN5bmNhdA-- ( -or- http://tinyurl.com/kuv7n

RE: [NF] Spoofed e-mail

2006-09-28 Thread Allen
Hi Ed thanks I don't really know much on Linux which like most people is a good reason to go to win2k3. I was under the impression that local machine would need to access root and mail. How do you stop the outside world from accessing either of those. Allen -Original Message- From:

Re: [OT] Why are our troops dying for these people?

2006-09-28 Thread Ed Leafe
On Sep 28, 2006, at 8:11 AM, Jean Laeremans wrote: Are you surprised ? Personally i thought the numbers would have been higher, well maybe they are No, I'm not surprised. Nor am I surprised that those who claimed that the Iraqis would welcome us as liberators, or those who claimed

Re: [NF] Spoofed e-mail

2006-09-28 Thread Ed Leafe
On Sep 28, 2006, at 8:21 AM, Allen wrote: I don't really know much on Linux which like most people is a good reason to go to win2k3. I was under the impression that local machine would need to access root and mail. How do you stop the outside world from accessing either of those. If you

Re: [NF] Spoofed e-mail

2006-09-28 Thread Jean Laeremans
On 9/28/06, Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Ed thanks I don't really know much on Linux which like most people is a good reason to go to win2k3. Lazy sod s Bit more Linux, bit less Di. A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com

RE: Cleanup code and Popup menus

2006-09-28 Thread Tristan Leask
Just found something interesting... http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q162800/ Updates the #PREPOPUP generator directive functionality. This directive, for use only with shortcut menus, allows you to control where the ACTIVATE POPUP command is placed in relation to the generated cleanup code. By

Re: Visual Studio 2005 / Vista troubles ahead ...

2006-09-28 Thread MB Software Solutions
Alan Bourke wrote: http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2006/09/27/windows_vista_visual_studio_2005/ This is potentially good news for the Eclipse Foundation, as it seems Microsoft developers will need to run different versions of Windows to build applications for new Windows Vista systems plus the

Re: crazy error moving FPW 2.5 to new xp notebook.

2006-09-28 Thread Peter Cushing
Michael Madigan wrote: I'm trying to move the development system from a working computer to another. I've never had a problem before. Now I'm getting path to target not found yet if I hit the find target button and select it there, it finds it. But when I run it, I get the same error. The

RE: Cleanup code and Popup menus

2006-09-28 Thread Tristan Leask
Aha! I have got it! You stick #PREPOPUP in the start up code of the menu and this tells the genmenu program to put the clean up code before the 'activate popup' command. Thanks MS for not having any of this in the help files! Tristan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [NF] Python - Thinking Differently

2006-09-28 Thread Stephen the Cook
Ed Leafe wrote: On Sep 28, 2006, at 4:47 AM, Allen wrote: I thought there was a separate list for Python There is, and that's for discussing Python issues. This is not concerned with a specific problem in Python; rather, it's a discussion of the pros and cons of adding Python to

RE: [NF] Spoofed e-mail

2006-09-28 Thread Allen
I have changed the alias file to mail: /dev/null See what that does. Thanks Ed Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe If you run a mail server, you should know how to set it up. Most servers that I have seen have an

Re: [NF] Spoofed e-mail

2006-09-28 Thread Ed Leafe
On Sep 28, 2006, at 9:40 AM, Allen wrote: I have changed the alias file to mail: /dev/null See what that does. Some mail servers require that the text files be 'compiled' (at least that's the way I look at it) into a form that it can use. OMM, after I edit the aliases file, I need to

RE: [OT] Why are our troops dying for these people?

2006-09-28 Thread David Crooks
On Thursday, September 28, 2006 8:23 AM Ed Leafe wrote: No, I'm not surprised. Nor am I surprised that those who claimed that the Iraqis would welcome us as liberators, or those who claimed that the Iraq war would pay for itself, or that it could be done in six months with a minimal

RE: VFP7: SQL Passthrough failure

2006-09-28 Thread David Crooks
On Thursday, September 28, 2006 2:07 AM Chet Gardiner wrote: Can you concatenate? SQLEXEC(field1 + field1) ??? Just a guess No, I don't see how that can work. I just want to update a couple fields but there are other fields that are setup to not allow Nulls. I am using the following

Re: [NF] MS06-049 may corrupt compressed folders

2006-09-28 Thread Ted Roche
UPDATE: Microsoft has released a version 2.0 of their patch MS06-049 for users of Windows 2000 SP4. If you're using that version and compression, the updated patch is essential: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms06-049.mspx Unusual that they'd release this update off their

RE: [NF] Spoofed e-mail

2006-09-28 Thread Allen
Ah yes I remember that now. Thanks Ed Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Some mail servers require that the text files be 'compiled' (at least that's the way I look at it) into a form that it can use. OMM, after I

RE: VFP7: SQL Passthrough failure

2006-09-28 Thread Dave Crozier
David, Why not use the NVL() Function. Dave Crozier The secret to staying young is to live honestly, eat slowly, and to lie about your age -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Crooks Sent: 28 September 2006 15:00 To: ProFox Email

[OT] time to take another Life Drawing class

2006-09-28 Thread Stephen Russell
My former instructors were good looking females as I remember. http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/09/28/china.teacher.reut/index.ht ml Stephen Russell DBA / Operations Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this

RE: VFP7: SQL Passthrough failure

2006-09-28 Thread Stephen the Cook
David Crooks wrote: On Thursday, September 28, 2006 2:07 AM Chet Gardiner wrote: Can you concatenate? SQLEXEC(field1 + field1) ??? Just a guess No, I don't see how that can work. I just want to update a couple fields but there are other fields that are setup to not allow

RE: VFP7: SQL Passthrough failure

2006-09-28 Thread Tracy Pearson
Can you shorten the TRANSFORM to just the NVL() function? Tracy -Original Message- From: David Crooks Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 10:00 AM On Thursday, September 28, 2006 2:07 AM Chet Gardiner wrote: Can you concatenate? SQLEXEC(field1 + field1) ??? Just a guess

Re: VFP7: SQL Passthrough failure

2006-09-28 Thread Ted Roche
On 9/27/06, David Crooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, I added the field to the list and then I hit the limit of 1024 for a string. How do I get around this? TIA! Parameters: lcSQL = INSERT INTO Customer (cCustName, cAddress, cCSZ, yCreditLimit) + ; VALUES (?lcCustName,

Re: [NF]Hey Americans! 400GB SATA hard drive for $99 !

2006-09-28 Thread Gérard Lochon
We have also some of them, cheaper ... but fallen out from the truck :o)) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list:

Re: [NF] Spoofed e-mail

2006-09-28 Thread William Sanders
For Alan L - Well - it's an email that supposedly was sent out as 'you' and it bounced back, right ? I had that problem a few years back, and I set up mail filtering rules on my linux shared services email server to filter this crap out and send it to /dev/null , based on a 2 rules - 1) contains

Re: Getting 1st and 3rd column info out of a combobox

2006-09-28 Thread Anthony L. Testi
IN this case, no. The cursor only exists long enough to load the combobox then is released. -Original Message- From: Eurico_EZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sep 26, 2006 6:53 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Subject: Getting 1st and 3rd column info out of a combobox Hi In the

RE: Agle Programming

2006-09-28 Thread john harvey
I've long thought that most of the Agile Religion is a crock, even though I like the basic concept. Here's a great article on it out of Slashdot http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2006/09/good-agile-bad-agile_27.html I like the way he points to one of the expositors of Agile using Scrum which is

[NF] More MS insecurities

2006-09-28 Thread Ted Roche
Word to the wise... http://isc.sans.org The Internet Storm Center is reporting yet another Internet Explorer exploit, taking advantage of a bug in an ActiveX control. The ISC is also pointing to reports of an exploit packaged in a PowerPoint file. I may have mentioned it before: Do not open

RE: Agle Programming

2006-09-28 Thread Stephen the Cook
john harvey wrote: I've long thought that most of the Agile Religion is a crock, even though I like the basic concept. Here's a great article on it out of Slashdot http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2006/09/good-agile-bad-agile_27.html I like the way he points to one of the expositors of

[OT] A funny comic for once

2006-09-28 Thread Michael Madigan
http://www.daybydaycartoon.com/ Boycott Citgo! Tell Hugo to stuff it! http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/1864514 Right Wing Stuff at http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance:

RE: Agle Programming

2006-09-28 Thread john harvey
Yeah, I can see how it can be both good and bad. I just think it's funny/sad the way corporate America jumps on any bandwagon and the next thing you know some guru is out selling vaporware or concepts. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

RE: [OT] Why are our troops dying for these people?

2006-09-28 Thread Michael Madigan
What a sill thing to yell, Bullship. --- David Crooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday, September 28, 2006 8:23 AM Ed Leafe wrote: No, I'm not surprised. Nor am I surprised that those who claimed that the Iraqis would welcome us as liberators, or those who claimed that the

Re: Agle Programming

2006-09-28 Thread Ted Roche
On 9/28/06, john harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I can see how it can be both good and bad. I just think it's funny/sad the way corporate America jumps on any bandwagon and the next thing you know some guru is out selling vaporware or concepts. It's so jumping the shark to think that

[OT] Almost like Here's your Sign

2006-09-28 Thread Stephen Russell
http://cagle.com/working/060925/bennett.jpg Stephen Russell DBA / Operations Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/458 - Release

re: [NF]Hey Americans! 400GB SATA hard drive for $99

2006-09-28 Thread William Sanders
Heya Alan - Man - that was fast- all sold out ! Regards [Bill] -- William Sanders / efGroup {rmv the DOT BOB to reply} VFP Webhosting? You BET! - http://efgroup.net/vfpwebhosting Failing dotNet Project? - http://www.dotnetconversions.com ___ Post

Re: [NF] More MS insecurities

2006-09-28 Thread Ed Leafe
On Sep 28, 2006, at 12:11 PM, Ted Roche wrote: Better yet... imagine a day with no PowerPoint. Wow. Wasn't that a John Lennon lyric? ;-) -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com

[OT] Will this ever take place?

2006-09-28 Thread Stephen Russell
http://cagle.com/working/060922/beattie.gif Stephen Russell DBA / Operations Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/458 - Release

Re: [NF] More MS insecurities

2006-09-28 Thread Garrett Fitzgerald
On 9/28/06, Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 28, 2006, at 12:11 PM, Ted Roche wrote: Better yet... imagine a day with no PowerPoint. Wow. Wasn't that a John Lennon lyric? ;-) Imagine there's no spreadsheets, It's easy if you try. No .DOCs or templates. To edit, just vi.

RE: Agle Programming

2006-09-28 Thread Hal Kaplan
Most documentation is a waste of time and money. It is expensive to produce. It is frequently not maintained, rendering it useless. And it makes two very iffy assumptions: one that the author knows how to write and two that the reader has a basis for comprehension. Heresy? Perhaps. My

Re: [NF] More MS insecurities

2006-09-28 Thread Ted Roche
On 9/28/06, Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wasn't that a John Lennon lyric? ;-) No, he was visualizing whirled peas. It was Tufte who said PowerPoint is Evil. http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.09/ppt2.html -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com

Re: [NF] ms Access DDE

2006-09-28 Thread Matthew Jarvis
Andy Davies wrote: someone on this list mentions DDE and within minutes I get a call from a user whose [secured] Access database has fallen over: error 8063 The DDE channel is established, but the data exchange wasn't completed in the amount of time specified in the OLE/DDE Timeout setting in

RE: [OT] Why are our troops dying for these people?

2006-09-28 Thread Hal Kaplan
= -Original Message- = From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan = Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 12:40 = To: ProFox Email List = Subject: RE: [OT] Why are our troops dying for these people? =  = What a sill thing to yell, Bullship. =  = 

RE: [NF] More MS insecurities

2006-09-28 Thread Hal Kaplan
= -Original Message- = From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted Roche = Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 13:27 = To: profox@leafe.com = Subject: Re: [NF] More MS insecurities =  = On 9/28/06, Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: =  =  Wasn't that a John

RE: [OT] Spoofed e-mail

2006-09-28 Thread Bill Arnold
The Internet threatens the powers-that-be, so rather then form, fund and support a task force to fix these problems, they do nothing. Then one day they'll declare the Internet a disaster and move in to fix it with controls such as a positive ID required for logon that will track

RE: [OT] Why are our troops dying for these people?

2006-09-28 Thread Michael Madigan
She sure doesn't have the wherewithal that you do, Hal. --- Hal Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = -Original Message- = From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan = Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 12:40 = To: ProFox Email List = 

[OT] The Angry Left gets Dangerous

2006-09-28 Thread Michael Madigan
Liberalism is a mental disorder http://www.aim.org/media_monitor_print/4893_0_2_0/ Boycott Citgo! Tell Hugo to stuff it! http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/1864514 Right Wing Stuff at http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike ___ Post Messages

[OT] The Angry Left gets Dangerous

2006-09-28 Thread Michael Madigan
Liberalism is a mental disorder http://www.aim.org/media_monitor_print/4893_0_2_0/ Boycott Citgo! Tell Hugo to stuff it! http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/1864514 Right Wing Stuff at http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike ___ Post Messages

Re: [NF] More MS insecurities

2006-09-28 Thread Vince Teachout
Garrett Fitzgerald wrote: Imagine there's no spreadsheets, It's easy if you try. No .DOCs or templates. To edit, just vi. Imagine presentations Given manually, Ooh ooh, h. You may say I'm a zealot, but there's more than one or two. I hope some day you'll reformat And start to run Ubuntu!

RE: [NF] More MS insecurities

2006-09-28 Thread Stephen the Cook
Garrett Fitzgerald wrote: On 9/28/06, Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 28, 2006, at 12:11 PM, Ted Roche wrote: Better yet... imagine a day with no PowerPoint. Wow. Wasn't that a John Lennon lyric? ;-) Imagine there's no spreadsheets, It's easy if you try. No .DOCs or

RE: Agle Programming

2006-09-28 Thread Bill Arnold
I think documentation is an imperative, for several reasons. But first to mention that it's a management, not programmer, responsibility that it be regarded as important, respected and kept up to date. It's management's job to give developers the outline, table of contents, to flesh out, so the

RE: [NF] ms Access DDE

2006-09-28 Thread Hal Kaplan
This could simply be an intermittent network problem or a disk that is starting to fail and does a lot of retries or a timeout value that is not realistic. If it continues over time, use the process of elimination to determine what is amiss. HALinNY = -Original Message- = From:

Re: [OT] Spoofed e-mail

2006-09-28 Thread Ed Leafe
On Sep 28, 2006, at 1:34 PM, Bill Arnold wrote: Spam, for example, should have been stepped up to with a national no-spam registry, like the one used for telemarketing (which works for me) This sort of thinking is fruitless. Laws from one nation have no effect on other nations. Most spam

Re: [NF] More MS insecurities

2006-09-28 Thread Ed Leafe
On Sep 28, 2006, at 1:24 PM, Garrett Fitzgerald wrote: Imagine there's no spreadsheets, Ah, so you were writing for him all along! -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription

Re: Agle Programming

2006-09-28 Thread Kevin Cully
American corporations take to the latest technology bandwagon as ... ... the French take to fashion ... the Japanese take to electronics bg Kevin Cully CULLY Technologies, LLC Sponsor of Fox Forward 2006! http://foxforward.net john harvey wrote: Yeah, I can see how it can be both good

RE: [OT] Spoofed e-mail

2006-09-28 Thread Bill Arnold
Spam, for example, should have been stepped up to with a national no-spam registry, like the one used for telemarketing (which works for me) This sort of thinking is fruitless. Laws from one nation have no effect on other nations. Most spam isn't sent from the spammers

[OT] Yo Madigan - you can stop with Citgo Boycott Now

2006-09-28 Thread William Sanders
Yo Yo Madigan - Did You Know ? 7-11, Stop n Go, Southland - all have given Citgo the Boot as of Tuesday. In the lower south - there's been a flurry of reconstruction to remove the Citgo signs, and in some places, remove the Citgo Tanks and install other tanks. Your notice to boycott was useful

RE: Agle Programming

2006-09-28 Thread Stephen the Cook
Bill Arnold wrote: I think documentation is an imperative, for several reasons. But first to mention that it's a management, not programmer, responsibility that it be regarded as important, respected and kept up to date. It's management's job to give developers the outline, table of

RE: Agle Programming

2006-09-28 Thread Anthony L. Testi
My 2-cents: Document at a high level. Example using UML Document your class interactions ( Maybe only a few public method/properties ) and subclassing structures. Document the important Use Cases via the Use Case Diagram ( Stick people, Ovals and arrows. ) Finally if data centric an ERD and

RE: Agle Programming

2006-09-28 Thread Bill Arnold
I want to state that documentation is very important on the front end. Sorry but you need to have the roadmap for the developers to achieve. You can then have a test plan created to validate that what was asked for is accomplished. If I understand what you're saying, yes. I didn't

Grids and AutoDown

2006-09-28 Thread Anthony L. Testi
Before I go and reinvent the wheel... Is there a easy/standard way of changing a grid behavior so that when I've typed in some information ( in this case a number ) and press enter/return the next cell highlighted is not to the right but down a row, e.g. same column? Tyring to allow for rapid

Re: [OT] Yo Madigan - you can stop with Citgo Boycott Now

2006-09-28 Thread Michael Madigan
They're selling like hotcakes Bill, people are buying stickers 6 at a time. My average sale is 4 at a time. Nice to see 7-11 do the right thing. I'm going to make it a point to buy an extra Slurpee. I heard that they were renaming gas stations, we'll have to find what the new ones are called.

RE: [OT] Spoofed e-mail

2006-09-28 Thread Michael Madigan
I got a spoofed EMAIL from Bill blaming the Necons for everything bad in America. LOL --- Bill Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spam, for example, should have been stepped up to with a national no-spam registry, like the one used for telemarketing (which works for me)

RE: Grids and AutoDown

2006-09-28 Thread Bill Arnold
Before I go and reinvent the wheel... Is there a easy/standard way of changing a grid behavior so that when I've typed in some information ( in this case a number ) and press enter/return the next cell highlighted is not to the right but down a row, e.g. same column? Tyring to allow

Re: crazy error moving FPW 2.5 to new xp notebook.

2006-09-28 Thread Michael Madigan
That's what I'm doing, but it isn't working. I have foxpro on many xp machines, but there is something about this one that isn't letting it run. --- Peter Cushing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Madigan wrote: I'm trying to move the development system from a working computer to another.

Re: [NF] More MS insecurities

2006-09-28 Thread Garrett Fitzgerald
On 9/28/06, Vince Teachout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Garrett Fitzgerald wrote: Imagine there's no spreadsheets, It's easy if you try. No .DOCs or templates. To edit, just vi. That's F'ng brilliant! Did you write that? I think I may have been hanging around filkers too much. :-)

RE: [OT] Spoofed e-mail

2006-09-28 Thread john harvey
I would like to see the DNS Routers filter out the obvious spam. It shouldn't be hard to do. I'd also like to see the government shut down the spammers. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006

RE: Agle Programming

2006-09-28 Thread john harvey
Obviously documentation is necessary. One thing I've seen though is where more resources are put into tracking the project than writing the software! John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Arnold Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006

RE: [OT] Spoofed e-mail

2006-09-28 Thread David Crooks
On Thursday, September 28, 2006 3:37 PM john harvey wrote: I would like to see the DNS Routers filter out the obvious spam. It shouldn't be hard to do. I'd also like to see the government shut down the spammers. I agree and there used to be an e-mail address I used to forward such e-mails to in

RE: [OT] Spoofed e-mail

2006-09-28 Thread Michael Madigan
You don't want the imperialistic US Government to oppress a third-world spammer, do you? --- David Crooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday, September 28, 2006 3:37 PM john harvey wrote: I would like to see the DNS Routers filter out the obvious spam. It shouldn't be hard to do. I'd

[NF] How to sell wifi?

2006-09-28 Thread KAM
Have you ever stayed in one of those hotels that have wifi? when you turn on your computer, a screen comes up and asks for your credit card number so you can get wifi for 24 hours or more? I have 4 broadband transmitters, smc, viewsonic, motorola, netgear. - different brands that I got to

RE: [OT] Spoofed e-mail

2006-09-28 Thread Stephen the Cook
David Crooks wrote: On Thursday, September 28, 2006 3:37 PM john harvey wrote: I would like to see the DNS Routers filter out the obvious spam. It shouldn't be hard to do. I'd also like to see the government shut down the spammers. I agree and there used to be an e-mail address I used

RE: Agle Programming

2006-09-28 Thread Hal Kaplan
Well, I seem to have stirred up some communication here. Good for me :) Of course I overstated my position and I did it to spur the dialog. Documentation is very important. But it is a management responsibility and management must be prepared to foot the bill or suffer the consequences.

RE: [NF] How to sell wifi?

2006-09-28 Thread Stephen the Cook
KAM wrote: Have you ever stayed in one of those hotels that have wifi? when you turn on your computer, a screen comes up and asks for your credit card number so you can get wifi for 24 hours or more? I have 4 broadband transmitters, smc, viewsonic, motorola, netgear. - different brands

RE: [OT] Yo Madigan - you can stop with Citgo Boycott Now

2006-09-28 Thread Hal Kaplan
= -Original Message- = From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan = Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 14:26 = To: ProFox Email List = Subject: Re: [OT] Yo Madigan - you can stop with Citgo Boycott Now =  = They're selling like hotcakes Bill, people

RE: [NF] How to sell wifi?

2006-09-28 Thread john harvey
You might want to spend about 40 bucks for some network monitoring software too. http://www.freshsoftware.com/xns/pro/ is what I use for my web servers. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of KAM Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 1:58 PM

RE: [NF] Python - Thinking Differently

2006-09-28 Thread Russell Campbell
Well, your remark seems kind of snide, but I learned some things about Python from that discussion. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen the Cook Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 9:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] Python

RE: [OT] Spoofed e-mail

2006-09-28 Thread john harvey
I'd say people stealth marketing - where they are sending to a different name than yours, they give a different name than their email address, etc. Take them out and grind them up. Use the remains for fertilizer! Not that I'm sick of getting the latest stock tip, nor am I enraged because someone

RE: [OT] Spoofed e-mail

2006-09-28 Thread Michael Madigan
I recommended the death penalty for virus writers a while back and the usual suspects said that was too harsh. --- john harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd say people stealth marketing - where they are sending to a different name than yours, they give a different name than their email

Re: [OT] Spoofed e-mail

2006-09-28 Thread Ed Leafe
On Sep 28, 2006, at 3:36 PM, john harvey wrote: I would like to see the DNS Routers filter out the obvious spam. It shouldn't be hard to do. And how do you propose to do that? Most spam isn't being sent by the spammers; it's being sent by infected machines. I'd also like to see the

Re: [OT] Spoofed e-mail

2006-09-28 Thread Pete Theisen
On Thursday 28 September 2006 16:27, Ed Leafe wrote: Hi Ed! Why, the Nigerian government, of course. Looks like the work-around has gotten me back into the loop. Regards, Pete On Sep 28, 2006, at 3:36 PM, john harvey wrote: I would like to see the DNS Routers filter out the obvious spam.

Re: [NF] How to sell wifi?

2006-09-28 Thread Kevin Cully
You may want to double check your contracts as well. It may be a violation of your agreement to resell Internet access. Kevin Cully CULLY Technologies, LLC Sponsor of Fox Forward 2006! http://foxforward.net KAM wrote: Have you ever stayed in one of those hotels that have wifi? when you turn

[NF] Verizon Domain block

2006-09-28 Thread Pete Theisen
Hi Everybody! I guess Verizon is currently blocking email from leafe.com. After about a week of support calls, emails and standing on my head in the corner, I finally subscribed to the various lists via my website address. This is working for the time being. Nothing to stop the mental giants

Re: [NF] Python - Thinking Differently

2006-09-28 Thread Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh
On Sep 28, 2006, at 3:11 PM, Russell Campbell wrote: Well, your remark seems kind of snide You are right about that. Unusual, because __stephen is the one who most consistently pushes the boundaries of {NF} posts to include anything vaguely technical or even scientific: Bad Steve! I

Re: [NF] Buyer beware! (Long)

2006-09-28 Thread Garrett Fitzgerald
On 9/27/06, Chet Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll be refusing receipt of the other package when it finally arrives (UPS ground from Brooklyn, NY starting Tues. AM), won't even touch the box - no prints - and then will get my money back from the Credit Card company. You mean your UPS guy

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