Re: [NF] Dabo Issue (was RE: [NF] I guess it's time for another programming language...)

2007-03-20 Thread Ken Dibble
At 10:16 PM 3/19/07, you wrote: Okay, well I have found someone else who has had this issue, so Ken Dibble, if you are on this list I am pinging you... http://leafe.com/archives/showFullThd/341872 I'd be interested, too. I got that error with the prior Runtime Engine, but

Re: [NF] Dabo Issue (was RE: [NF] I guess it's time for another programming language...)

2007-03-20 Thread Ken Dibble
I've got 0.7.1.0 on Win 2000. It won't run anything at all, at least, not via its file picker. It displays the file picker, I pick a .py file (like the main.py in the recipes demo, for instance), and both the file picker and console windows disappear and nothing else happens. Traceback is:

Re: [NF] Dabo Issue (was RE: [NF] I guess it's time for another programming language...)

2007-03-20 Thread Ed Leafe
On Mar 20, 2007, at 6:52 PM, Ken Dibble wrote: I've got 0.7.1.0 on Win 2000. It won't run anything at all, at least, not via its file picker. It displays the file picker, I pick a .py file (like the main.py in the recipes demo, for instance), and both the file picker and console

Re: [NF] Dabo Issue (was RE: [NF] I guess it's time for another programming language...)

2007-03-20 Thread Ken Dibble
If you want to stay current, you can check out the subversion repositories, replacing that dabo, demo and ide folders. Yup, that's what I do. If you want folks to test the runtime engine, it would be helpful to make it possible to get updates for it the same way. The exe is

Re: [NF] Dabo Issue (was RE: [NF] I guess it's time for another programming language...)

2007-03-19 Thread Ken Dibble
Okay, well I have found someone else who has had this issue, so Ken Dibble, if you are on this list I am pinging you... http://leafe.com/archives/showFullThd/341872 I'm sorry I didn't see this sooner; I'm about 3 days behind on the list right now. It looks like you worked it out with Ed

Re: [NF] Dabo Issue (was RE: [NF] I guess it's time for another programming language...)

2007-03-19 Thread Ken Dibble
Okay, well I have found someone else who has had this issue, so Ken Dibble, if you are on this list I am pinging you... http://leafe.com/archives/showFullThd/341872 I'd be interested, too. I got that error with the prior Runtime Engine, but the new version is working as it

Re: [NF] I guess it's time for another programming language...

2007-03-17 Thread Michael Hawksworth
If you want to be free from the threat of your development tool disappearing on you have to go with the open source tools, anything else can be gobbled up by one of the big fish... sounds familiar? -- Regards Michael. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Post

Re: [NF] Dabo Issue (was RE: [NF] I guess it's time for another programming language...)

2007-03-17 Thread Ed Leafe
On Mar 16, 2007, at 10:46 AM, Tristan Leask wrote: Okay, well I have found someone else who has had this issue, so Ken Dibble, if you are on this list I am pinging you... http://leafe.com/archives/showFullThd/341872 I'd be interested, too. I got that error with the prior Runtime

Re: [NF] I guess it's time for another programming language...

2007-03-16 Thread Alan Bourke
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:47:23 -0700, Matthew Jarvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Anyone gone down this route already? Yup, I picked C# because it has the brevity of C but without having to worry about all the crap like pointers and the like. The .NET platform is getting ever better and all the

RE: [NF] I guess it's time for another programming language...

2007-03-16 Thread Tristan Leask
Heh, looks like everyone else is having these thoughts at the moment as well then. I have been tinkering with Dabo, but for some reason it's all stopped working for me, so I am a little worried. Even the demos are not working. An error.log is produced with the following errors... TraceBack:

Re: [NF] I guess it's time for another programming language...

2007-03-16 Thread Michael Hawksworth
I've used c# since it was released and it is now pretty good, Linq will make it very good but it is not an easy system to learn. VB is an easier route if you don't already know C or better still c++. I would avoid C for commercial apps. There are huge issues for any businesses based on

Re: [NF] Dabo for mobile apps? (was Re: [NF] I guess it's time for another programming language...)

2007-03-16 Thread Ed Leafe
On Mar 15, 2007, at 10:25 PM, MB Software Solutions wrote: Ed -- can Dabo do Palm apps and/or cell phone apps? I've got a need where field installers are going to need to send a signal to the web database to signal when jobs (fencing/railing) are installed, and I'd love to have this on some

Re: [NF] I guess it's time for another programming language...

2007-03-16 Thread Paul Hill
On 3/16/07, Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:47:23 -0700, Matthew Jarvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Anyone gone down this route already? Yup, I picked C# because it has the brevity of C but without having to worry about all the crap like pointers and the like.

Re: [NF] I guess it's time for another programming language...

2007-03-16 Thread Vince Teachout
Paul Hill wrote: What? Pointers are the best bit about C! Pointers to arrays of pointers which point to structs containing pointers. I love 'em! Oh Pointy Birds, oh Pointy Pointy, Anoint my head, Anointy, nointy. - Steve Martin: The Man with Two Brains

RE: [NF] I guess it's time for another programming language...

2007-03-16 Thread Adam Buckland
I bet you just love balancing B-Trees in purely malloced data structures Pervert! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Hill What? Pointers are the best bit about C! Pointers to arrays of pointers which point to structs containing

Re: [NF] I guess it's time for another programming language...

2007-03-16 Thread MB Software Solutions
Paul Hill wrote: What? Pointers are the best bit about C! Pointers to arrays of pointers which point to structs containing pointers. I love 'em! Masochist, Paul? -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not

Re: [NF] Dabo for mobile apps? (was Re: [NF] I guess it's time for another programming language...)

2007-03-16 Thread Steve Ellenoff
Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but couldn't you just have them hit the website to trigger that jobs are done? Every mobile device already has support for browsing the web so there's little need for you to write a custom mobile client app for them. I recall seeing ways to create the web pages

Re: [NF] Dabo for mobile apps? (was Re: [NF] I guess it's time for another programming language...)

2007-03-16 Thread MB Software Solutions
Steve Ellenoff wrote: Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but couldn't you just have them hit the website to trigger that jobs are done? Every mobile device already has support for browsing the web so there's little need for you to write a custom mobile client app for them. I recall seeing

Re: [NF] I guess it's time for another programming language...

2007-03-16 Thread Derek Kalweit
Anyone gone down this route already? Yup, I picked C# because it has the brevity of C but without having to worry about all the crap like pointers and the like. What? Pointers are the best bit about C! And that's why they're really the only way .NET, Java, and VFP(for objects) work--

[NF] Dabo Issue (was RE: [NF] I guess it's time for another programming language...)

2007-03-16 Thread Tristan Leask
09:40 Posted To: Profox Archive Conversation: [NF] I guess it's time for another programming language... Subject: RE: [NF] I guess it's time for another programming language... Heh, looks like everyone else is having these thoughts at the moment as well then. I have been tinkering with Dabo

Re: [NF] I guess it's time for another programming language...

2007-03-16 Thread Ed Leafe
On Mar 16, 2007, at 5:40 AM, Tristan Leask wrote: I have been tinkering with Dabo, but for some reason it's all stopped working for me, so I am a little worried. Even the demos are not working. An error.log is produced with the following errors... TraceBack: File daborun.py, line 242, in

Re: [NF] Dabo for mobile apps? (was Re: [NF] I guess it's time for another programming language...)

2007-03-16 Thread Steve Ellenoff
Well, you could do something like that, or you could have a page special for them where they enter in job # and/or other related items. It really depends on your situation, but my point was just to think of using the web interface as the way to communicate back to your database, rather than

Re: [NF] I guess it's time for another programming language...

2007-03-16 Thread Matthew Jarvis
Michael Hawksworth wrote: snip My only advise on this is to make a plan so you don't end up making pressured decisions; look at were you want to be in x (ten?) years time and draft out a route-map of how to get there. Maybe you may plan to give yourself a year to decide but make sure you

RE: [NF] I guess it's time for another programming language...

2007-03-16 Thread John Weller
What? Pointers are the best bit about C! Pointers to arrays of pointers which point to structs containing pointers. I love 'em! Masochist! John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription

Re: [NF] I guess it's time for another programming language...

2007-03-16 Thread Kevin Cully
REALbasic is not FOSS, but some might see that as a positive. There are very few legal issues if you are going to sell commercial applications. If the company stopped producing the product, you would still be productive with the product for years to come, even through 2015 and beyond. Wait.

[NF] I guess it's time for another programming language...

2007-03-15 Thread Matthew Jarvis
Okay, maybe it isn't necessary to jump ship just *yet*, but it's only a matter of time... I know that I'll need to do a rewrite of our MS Access front end app at some point so have been considering other apps/languages lately anyway... I haven't given dabo a fair shakedown yet.. RealBasic

Re: [NF] I guess it's time for another programming language...

2007-03-15 Thread Whil Hentzen (Pro*)
Or maybe python... So I got to thinking that all modern based 'visual' languages are actually written in something like C anyway, so why not go ahead and learn C (or a derivitive of that) i.e. learn one of the base languages... The idea being that there must be libraries out there to do

Re: [NF] I guess it's time for another programming language...

2007-03-15 Thread Steve Ellenoff
IMO - I don't think this is a good road for you to take unless you've got lots of time and patience. As someone that knows C pretty well I can say from experience that C is not a good choice as a step from a visual (gui style) RAD tool/language. Not only because of the language itself, but for

Re: [NF] I guess it's time for another programming language...

2007-03-15 Thread MB Software Solutions
Matthew Jarvis wrote: Okay, maybe it isn't necessary to jump ship just *yet*, but it's only a matter of time... 8+ years to be exact. s I know that I'll need to do a rewrite of our MS Access front end app at some point so have been considering other apps/languages lately anyway...

[NF] Dabo for mobile apps? (was Re: [NF] I guess it's time for another programming language...)

2007-03-15 Thread MB Software Solutions
Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: P.S. I'd argue that python would be your best bet. xplat, lotsa libraries, fat-client + c/s + mobile + web apps, growing userbase, fewer security problems than PHP's hole of the week, cool name, and lotsa women. Ed -- can Dabo do Palm apps and/or cell phone

Re: [NF] I guess it's time for another programming language...

2007-03-15 Thread MB Software Solutions
Steve Ellenoff wrote: Of course, IMO all those pale to VFP for RAD tools, but VFP is dead.. ummm..in 8 yearsyes. Think about what has changed in the past 8 years in our industry. I think Windows DNA was the way to go, wasn't it? Hungarian notation was the right way to do things,

Re: [NF] I guess it's time for another programming language...

2007-03-15 Thread Eugene Vital
MB Software Solutions wrote: Matthew Jarvis wrote: Okay, maybe it isn't necessary to jump ship just *yet*, but it's only a matter of time... 8+ years to be exact. s I know that I'll need to do a rewrite of our MS Access front end app at some point so have been

RE: [NF] Dabo for mobile apps? (was Re: [NF] I guess it's time for another programming language...)

2007-03-15 Thread john harvey
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 8:26 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: [NF] Dabo for mobile apps? (was Re: [NF] I guess it's time for another programming language...) Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: P.S. I'd argue that python would be your best bet. xplat