RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back

2009-02-24 Thread Kurt Wendt
Hey Geoff - that reminds me. I've been reading this whole Thread - and catching up on it this morning. Very interesting to watch. Well, your comment below reminded me of a situation that occurred with me many years ago. I had done a little investing in Stock - and, when I mean a little - it was

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2009-02-24 Thread Jim Dettman
] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:21 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back It was actually done in Access. LOL * --- On Mon, 2/23/09, MB Software Solutions General Account

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2009-02-24 Thread Fred Taylor
fbtay...@gmail.com wrote: From: Fred Taylor fbtay...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 8:24 PM Looks like M$ may have a heart after all. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29353191 Fred

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2009-02-24 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
On Tue, February 24, 2009 9:57 am, Fred Taylor wrote: Yeah, I think you're right. That's about the only way big business will do the right thing. Damage control! Fred On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.comwrote: It wasn't their heart, it was because

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2009-02-24 Thread Allen Pollard
It dies years ago :) Al - Original Message - From: Jim Dettman jimdett...@earthlink.net B. It's not a dead product like VFP. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox

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2009-02-24 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Allen Pollard wrote: It dies years ago :) Al - Original Message - From: Jim Dettman jimdett...@earthlink.net B. It's not a dead product like VFP. Hasn't it been dead since 1992? I thought that's what Gartner Group said. gdr ___

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2009-02-24 Thread Ken Kixmoeller/fh
On Feb 24, 2009, at 12:28 PM, MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: Hasn't it been dead since 1992? I thought that's what Gartner Group said. gdr Breaking News: Generalissimo Francisco Franco is *still* dead! ___ Post Messages to:

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2009-02-24 Thread Geoff Flight
To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Hey Geoff - that reminds me. I've been reading this whole Thread - and catching up on it this morning. Very interesting to watch. Well, your comment below reminded me of a situation that occurred with me many years ago. I had

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2009-02-24 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Ken Kixmoeller/fh wrote: On Feb 24, 2009, at 12:28 PM, MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: Hasn't it been dead since 1992? I thought that's what Gartner Group said. gdr Breaking News: Generalissimo Francisco Franco is *still* dead! LMAO!!! You have the same sense of humor as I

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2009-02-24 Thread Geoff Flight
Sent: Wednesday, 25 February 2009 2:40 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back On Tue, February 24, 2009 9:57 am, Fred Taylor wrote: Yeah, I think you're right. That's about the only way big business will do the right thing. Damage control! Fred On Mon, Feb

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2009-02-23 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Sad, but true: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,498666,00.html ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech

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2009-02-23 Thread Michael Madigan
Software Solutions General Account mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com Subject: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 3:57 PM Sad, but true: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,498666,00.html

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2009-02-23 Thread Ken Kixmoeller/fh
On Feb 23, 2009, at 2:54 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: Only an idiot would send them back their money. Or somebody with ethics. Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free

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2009-02-23 Thread Sytze de Boer
...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com Subject: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 3:57 PM Sad, but true: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,498666,00.html ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription

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2009-02-23 Thread Michael Madigan
: From: Ken Kixmoeller/fh foxh...@information-architecture.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 4:02 PM On Feb 23, 2009, at 2:54 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: Only an idiot would send them back their money

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2009-02-23 Thread Jean Laeremans
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Ken Kixmoeller/fh foxh...@information-architecture.com wrote: On Feb 23, 2009, at 2:54 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: Only an idiot would send them back their money. Or somebody with ethics. Ken ethics (used with a sing. verb) The study of the general nature

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2009-02-23 Thread Michael Madigan
Wouldn't they know it when the check arrived? --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Sytze de Boer sy...@kiss.co.nz wrote: From: Sytze de Boer sy...@kiss.co.nz Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 4:07 PM Then I must be an idiot. Mistakes

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2009-02-23 Thread mike
legal action they could do to get the money back. Just my 10 cents Mike Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Sytze de Boer sy...@kiss.co.nz Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 10:07:43 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Then I

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2009-02-23 Thread Jeff Johnson
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com Subject: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 3:57 PM Sad, but true: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,498666,00.html ___ Post Messages

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2009-02-23 Thread Geoff Flight
...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com Subject: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 3:57 PM Sad, but true: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,498666,00.html ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com

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2009-02-23 Thread Michael Madigan
Thanks Mike, that's exactly how I see it. * --- On Mon, 2/23/09, m...@mikewohlrab.com m...@mikewohlrab.com wrote: From: m...@mikewohlrab.com m...@mikewohlrab.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date

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2009-02-23 Thread Michael Madigan
It's not clear. --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au wrote: From: Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au Subject: RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 5:32 PM If a company sends you a cheque by mistake

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2009-02-23 Thread Michael Madigan
: Sytze de Boer sy...@kiss.co.nz Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 10:07:43 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Then I must be an idiot. Mistakes happen. Are you saying the ones who were underpaid (and who are asking for an adjustment) are also idiots

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2009-02-23 Thread Sytze de Boer
: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 8:53 AM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Well however they determined that some were underpaid, and if they legitamantly where then it could be said that they deserve and should get more money. Those that got overpaid, no one has

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2009-02-23 Thread mike
2009 11:49:26 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back I can't believe what I'm reading in some of these posts. I guess it shows how low some will stoop when it involves a company that is disliked I call that selective morality I like all the analogies used

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2009-02-23 Thread Jeff Johnson
that spelled out severance in their offer letter or subsequent contracts. --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com wrote: From: Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 5:35 PM I'm

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2009-02-23 Thread mike
: Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 09:02:23 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back If a company sends you a cheque by mistake then you are not entitled to the money. Just as if you found a large sum of money in the street - it isn't yours. How

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2009-02-23 Thread Jeff Johnson
To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back If a company sends you a cheque by mistake then you are not entitled to the money. Just as if you found a large sum of money in the street - it isn't yours. How many times have you read about people who've had money

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2009-02-23 Thread Michael Madigan
: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 6:04 PM The company I work with and the employees agree to the severance at the time of severance. Jeff Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 Michael

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2009-02-23 Thread mike
: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:14:43 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Years ago a programmer - I am sure it was not one of us - working for Mastercard, modified the program that applied payment to the entire outstanding balance of the card regardless of the amount

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2009-02-23 Thread Geoff Flight
So your morality is get whatever you can? -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 9:42 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back In NJ

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2009-02-23 Thread Michael Madigan
Is it moral to be laid off without severance? --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au wrote: From: Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au Subject: RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 6:30 PM So your

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2009-02-23 Thread Sytze de Boer
February 2009 9:42 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back In NJ there is no right to anything. My last company told me Hey I gave you 30 days notice for the layoff, so I'm not paying you severance. That's after working there nearly 4 years

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2009-02-23 Thread Geoff Flight
$$ back Is it moral to be laid off without severance? --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au wrote: From: Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au Subject: RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 6:30 PM So your

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2009-02-23 Thread Jeff Johnson
Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Years ago a programmer - I am sure it was not one of us - working for Mastercard, modified the program that applied payment to the entire outstanding balance of the card regardless of the amount paid. I made a $10 payment and my $1200 balance

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2009-02-23 Thread Michael Madigan
If someone lays me off and then sends me a check, then later asks for money back, I tell them to stuff it. LOL Sue me Mr. Gates. --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Sytze de Boer sy...@kiss.co.nz wrote: From: Sytze de Boer sy...@kiss.co.nz Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: profox

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2009-02-23 Thread Michael Madigan
Madigan Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 10:06 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Is it moral to be laid off without severance? --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au wrote: From: Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au Subject: RE: [NF

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2009-02-23 Thread Ken Kixmoeller/fh
On Feb 23, 2009, at 5:05 PM, m...@mikewohlrab.com wrote: If someone deposited money into your account or you came across money that you have absolutly no clue how that money got into your hands, especially large sums of money, then im sure that if you actually have a usuable brain then

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2009-02-23 Thread Geoff Flight
is not... -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 10:18 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back If someone lays me off and then sends me a check, then later

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2009-02-23 Thread Sytze de Boer
/rightwingmike/6169336 --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au wrote: From: Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au Subject: RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 6:39 PM That's a legal question. Returning

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2009-02-23 Thread mike
Thanks for noting that but i am 18 and do understand how severance packages work. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Ken Kixmoeller/fh foxh...@information-architecture.com Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:49:31 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants

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2009-02-23 Thread Fred Taylor
Message- From: Ken Kixmoeller/fh foxh...@information-architecture.com Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:49:31 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back On Feb 23, 2009, at 5:05 PM, m...@mikewohlrab.com wrote: If someone deposited money into your account or you came

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2009-02-23 Thread Geoff Flight
February 2009 11:54 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Looks like M$ may have a heart after all. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29353191 Fred On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 4:55 PM, m...@mikewohlrab.com wrote: Thanks for noting that but i am 18 and do understand how

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2009-02-23 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Fred Taylor wrote: Looks like M$ may have a heart after all. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29353191 Brummel said she didn't know whether an Excel spreadsheet was at the root of the problem. LOL ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com

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2009-02-23 Thread Geoff Flight
$ wants their layoff $$ back Fred Taylor wrote: Looks like M$ may have a heart after all. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29353191 Brummel said she didn't know whether an Excel spreadsheet was at the root of the problem. LOL [excessive quoting removed by server

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2009-02-23 Thread Michael Madigan
It wasn't their heart, it was because they were embarrassed. --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Fred Taylor fbtay...@gmail.com wrote: From: Fred Taylor fbtay...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 8:24 PM

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2009-02-23 Thread Michael Madigan
- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Fred Taylor Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 11:54 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Looks like M$ may have a heart after all. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29353191

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2009-02-23 Thread Michael Madigan
Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 9:07 PM Fred Taylor wrote: Looks like M$ may have a heart after all. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29353191 Brummel said she didn't know whether an Excel spreadsheet

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2009-02-23 Thread Michael Madigan
data...@adam.com.au wrote: From: Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au Subject: RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 9:37 PM I used to program with a bank. If customers only knew the screwups that occurred which were

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2009-02-23 Thread Geoff Flight
, Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au wrote: From: Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au Subject: RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 9:37 PM I used to program with a bank. If customers only knew the screwups that occurred

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2009-02-23 Thread Michael Madigan
Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 2:53 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Here's what I would do. Withdraw the money, call them and tell them it's the price they have to pay for me not to go to the Television station and tell all their customers how

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2009-02-23 Thread Helio Wakasugui
...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 2:53 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Here's what I would do. Withdraw the money, call them and tell them it's the price they have to pay for me

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2009-02-23 Thread Geoff Flight
: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back Madagain is so wicked... and he thinks he's a good Christian. Maybe he is! LOL HW On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 1:45 AM, Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au wrote: So blackmail is a part of your moral structure? I guess it goes well with theft. -Original Message

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2009-02-23 Thread Michael Madigan
You're so gay. --- On Tue, 2/24/09, Helio Wakasugui helio.wakasu...@gmail.com wrote: From: Helio Wakasugui helio.wakasu...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [NF] M$ wants their layoff $$ back To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 12:31 AM Madagain is so wicked