Re: Can VFP9 SP1 SP2 runtimes co-exist happily?

2008-11-06 Thread Steve Ellenoff
To all that responded regarding this issue, thanks so much! The suggestion to simply put the VFP9 dlls in the folder with the .exe is working well and provides a great and easy way for me to eventually move to SP2 or perhaps back to SP1 someday.. PS - Thanks to Rick Schummer for his terrific

RE: Can VFP9 SP1 SP2 runtimes co-exist happily?

2008-11-06 Thread Rick Schummer
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Ellenoff Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 03:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Can VFP9 SP1 SP2 runtimes co-exist happily? To all that responded regarding this issue, thanks so much! The suggestion to simply put the VFP9 dlls in the folder with the .exe is working

Re: Can VFP9 SP1 SP2 runtimes co-exist happily?

2008-11-05 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Rick Schummer wrote: VFP will find the runtimes in the application folder before even looking in the common folder. So, it'll load a smidgen faster by putting the runtimes in the application folder. Depends, naturally. If the app folder is on the network and has to pull it over wire, the

RE: Can VFP9 SP1 SP2 runtimes co-exist happily?

2008-11-05 Thread Rick Schummer
Different strokes for different folks. Why go through the unnecessary network overhead? Loader apps work well *most* of the time, but there is one reason I like a mechanism (manual or automated) to kick people out of the app: it ensures they are running the current one. Case in point: rogue

RE: Can VFP9 SP1 SP2 runtimes co-exist happily?

2008-11-05 Thread Rick Schummer
I wouldn't dream of running the app on the server anymore, ever since 1999 when I learned about the LOADER idea from others here on ProFox. So how do you ensure the user is running the loader and not the local EXE? Have you taken the precaution of adding versioning logic to the app startup

Re: Can VFP9 SP1 SP2 runtimes co-exist happily?

2008-11-05 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Rick Schummer wrote: I wouldn't dream of running the app on the server anymore, ever since 1999 when I learned about the LOADER idea from others here on ProFox. So how do you ensure the user is running the loader and not the local EXE? Have you taken the precaution of adding versioning logic

Re: Can VFP9 SP1 SP2 runtimes co-exist happily?

2008-11-05 Thread Paul McNett
Rick Schummer wrote: I wouldn't dream of running the app on the server anymore, ever since 1999 when I learned about the LOADER idea from others here on ProFox. So how do you ensure the user is running the loader and not the local EXE? Have you taken the precaution of adding versioning

RE: Can VFP9 SP1 SP2 runtimes co-exist happily?

2008-11-04 Thread Rick Schummer
Besides, disk space is cheap so there's no need to rely on the old approach of having it exist in one spot and using the registry for that reference. Depends. Some of us still prefer run times on client machine for performance. In this case you really should have them installed in common

Re: Can VFP9 SP1 SP2 runtimes co-exist happily?

2008-11-04 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
Rick Schummer wrote: Besides, disk space is cheap so there's no need to rely on the old approach of having it exist in one spot and using the registry for that reference. Depends. Some of us still prefer run times on client machine for performance. In this case you really should have

Re: Can VFP9 SP1 SP2 runtimes co-exist happily?

2008-11-04 Thread Paul McNett
Rick Schummer wrote: Depends. Some of us still prefer run times on client machine for performance. In this case you really should have them installed in common folder to make things simpler. VFP will find the runtimes in the application folder before even looking in the common folder. So,

Re: Can VFP9 SP1 SP2 runtimes co-exist happily?

2008-11-04 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Rick Schummer wrote: All feedback on this topic welcome and appreciated- Runtime files are named identical for a major release of VFP, so your SP1 and SP2 runtimes are identically named. No way around that. I agree with Paul and Andrew in this situation about putting the runtimes in the

RE: Can VFP9 SP1 SP2 runtimes co-exist happily?

2008-11-04 Thread Rick Schummer
Are you saying that it would perform better if you had installed the runtimes in the common folder? You are thinking the app and the runtimes are on the same machine. I normally think of it as running off a network server. On the same machine we are talking small differences, but over a

RE: Can VFP9 SP1 SP2 runtimes co-exist happily?

2008-11-04 Thread Rick Schummer
VFP will find the runtimes in the application folder before even looking in the common folder. So, it'll load a smidgen faster by putting the runtimes in the application folder. Depends, naturally. If the app folder is on the network and has to pull it over wire, the commons folder even being

Re: Can VFP9 SP1 SP2 runtimes co-exist happily?

2008-11-04 Thread Paul McNett
Rick Schummer wrote: VFP will find the runtimes in the application folder before even looking in the common folder. So, it'll load a smidgen faster by putting the runtimes in the application folder. Depends, naturally. If the app folder is on the network and has to pull it over wire,

Re: Can VFP9 SP1 SP2 runtimes co-exist happily?

2008-11-04 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
Paul McNett wrote: Rick Schummer wrote: VFP will find the runtimes in the application folder before even looking in the common folder. So, it'll load a smidgen faster by putting the runtimes in the application folder. Depends, naturally. If the app folder is on the network and has to

Re: Can VFP9 SP1 SP2 runtimes co-exist happily?

2008-11-03 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
Steve Ellenoff wrote: I'm moving an app from VFP8 up to VFP9 and am still unsure of SP2. Wanted to know if anyone knows how well SP1 2 run-time files exist on a client's machine. Obviously different versions of VFP have no trouble as the naming is different for the dlls, but I'm not sure

Re: Can VFP9 SP1 SP2 runtimes co-exist happily?

2008-11-03 Thread Paul McNett
Steve Ellenoff wrote: I'm moving an app from VFP8 up to VFP9 and am still unsure of SP2. Wanted to know if anyone knows how well SP1 2 run-time files exist on a client's machine. Obviously different versions of VFP have no trouble as the naming is different for the dlls, but I'm not sure

Re: Can VFP9 SP1 SP2 runtimes co-exist happily?

2008-11-03 Thread Steve Ellenoff
By application directory I assume you mean the directory where the .exe will live. So are you simply copying the VFP9 runtime files? I was under the impression that you could no longer just do that since VFP8? IIRC the dll has to be registered with windows either through a setup program or

Re: Can VFP9 SP1 SP2 runtimes co-exist happily?

2008-11-03 Thread Andrew Stirling
Steve I also just put the runtime files into the .exe folder. The only file I register is the help file. Using VFP9 with SP1 Andrew Stirling 01250 874580 http://www.calcpay.co.uk HMRC Accredited UK payroll program Steve Ellenoff wrote: By application directory I assume you mean the directory

Re: Can VFP9 SP1 SP2 runtimes co-exist happily?

2008-11-03 Thread Steve Ellenoff
Yes, I've been reading Rick's whitepaper on how to have SP1 SP2 co-existing on my Development machine, link is actually here: http://rickschummer.com/blog/2008/03/vfp-9-rtmsp1sp2-one-machine.html but I didn't see it mention the run time files which is what prompted the question.. (Obviously if

RE: Can VFP9 SP1 SP2 runtimes co-exist happily?

2008-11-03 Thread Rick Schummer
All feedback on this topic welcome and appreciated- Runtime files are named identical for a major release of VFP, so your SP1 and SP2 runtimes are identically named. No way around that. I agree with Paul and Andrew in this situation about putting the runtimes in the folder with your

Re: Can VFP9 SP1 SP2 runtimes co-exist happily?

2008-11-03 Thread Paul McNett
Steve Ellenoff wrote: By application directory I assume you mean the directory where the .exe will live. So are you simply copying the VFP9 runtime files? I was under the impression that you could no longer just do that since VFP8? IIRC the dll has to be registered with windows either

RE: Can VFP9 SP1 SP2 runtimes co-exist happily?

2008-11-03 Thread Steve Ellenoff
Thanks to everyone for their help and suggestions on this. I look forward to trying it out soon. At 03:07 PM 11/03/2008, you wrote: All feedback on this topic welcome and appreciated- Runtime files are named identical for a major release of VFP, so your SP1 and SP2 runtimes are identically