[PEDA] AW: DXP Variants / version control

2002-08-27 Thread Georg Beckmann
Hi Peder, after beta testing the DXP, I suggest to upgrade, if protel is the tool you do your daily work. Nevertheless you should know : - DXP is a new system, you have to invest some time to learn new methodes. - the global select and change is fully changed, also not fully understood,

[PEDA] File Size Limit?

2002-08-27 Thread Jason Morgan
Hi, Due to some weirdness at our assembly house, they can't accept a normal pick and place file. They want a Protel ASCII PCB file, which they then import and create the necessary data for their machinery. This has been OK up 'till now, with an output file format of 35MByte. A recent variant

Re: [PEDA] AW: DXP Variants / version control

2002-08-27 Thread Michael Reagan (EDSI)
Georg wrote I bought the upgrade and estimate to run it parallel to 99SE until the begin of next year. Georg, Some of us cant afford to run in parrallel and certainly cant afford any more Altium Frankenstein experiments. Mike Reagan EDSI

Re: [PEDA] File Size Limit?

2002-08-27 Thread Emanuel Zimmermann
Hi Jason, No idea about the size limit, but does your assembly house require the poly planes included? Emanuel Jason Morgan wrote: Hi, Due to some weirdness at our assembly house, they can't accept a normal pick and place file. They want a Protel ASCII PCB file, which they then

Re: [PEDA] File Size Limit?

2002-08-27 Thread Jason Morgan
Nope, one option (to reduce the file size) is as you imply to remove unnecessary data, its just a faff. (P.S. its 99se sp6) -Original Message- From: Emanuel Zimmermann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 August 2002 12:42 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] File Size Limit? Hi

Re: [PEDA] Protel 99SE license

2002-08-27 Thread Isabelle Baudry
Hello, Lloyd, I also tried to send you an e-mail off-line but it failed. We have 2 Protel 99SE licenses for sale. So if you are interested, you can contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Best regards Isabelle Baudry *

Re: [PEDA] AW: DXP Variants / version control

2002-08-27 Thread Robert M. Wolfe
IT'S ALIVE! Bob Wolfe - Original Message - From: Michael Reagan (EDSI) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] AW: DXP Variants / version control Georg wrote I bought the upgrade and estimate to run it

[PEDA] DXP and Specctra

2002-08-27 Thread ga
Hello, just a short question, as I did not have the time to evaluate the DXP trial so far: In the documentation/tutorials Altium placed on their website concerning DXP I did not find a single word about a Specctra interface. Does DXP have such an interface like 99SE or not, and did anyone test

[PEDA] AW: DXP and Specctra

2002-08-27 Thread Georg Beckmann
Hi Gisbert, you can export a *.dsn file. But till now, I didn't try it, because about other problems. Georg -Urspr ngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. August 2002 14:56 An: Protel EDA Forum Betreff: [PEDA] DXP and Specctra

[PEDA] 99SE Crashes when trying to close design

2002-08-27 Thread Matt Daggett
Warning Unable to process data: multipart/mixed; boundary==_NextPartTM-000-163203d0-fe0d-4091-a4cd-4fa99c985099

Re: [PEDA] 99SE Crashes when trying to close design

2002-08-27 Thread HxEngr

[PEDA] Protel vs. DirectCD

2002-08-27 Thread HxEngr
I've just encountered a problem which essentially crashes my machine (W2K P99SE SP6) when I try to run Protel while Roxio's Easy CD Creator v 5.01_E2 is running. I think it's just a shell for DirectCD; it came bundled with my Dell, but is actually just crippleware (lowering my opinion of Dell;

Re: [PEDA] File Size Limit?

2002-08-27 Thread Dave . E . Lewis
I don't have the answer to your problem but just a few thoughts - Could it be due to memory limitation for your PC?Try on another PC with more ram if available. If not, try doing the save as with a few more app's running (suck up even more memory) and see if the file gets smaller

Re: [PEDA] AW: DXP and Specctra

2002-08-27 Thread Dennis Saputelli
where did you find export to DSN ? i couldn't' find it neither was a question about this answered on the DXP list Dennis Saputelli Georg Beckmann wrote: Hi Gisbert, you can export a *.dsn file. But till now, I didn't try it, because about other problems. Georg -Urspr ngliche

[PEDA] AW: AW: DXP and Specctra

2002-08-27 Thread Georg Beckmann
Tricky, with pcb file aktiv, select file save as, then select export specctra design file (*.dsn) Georg -Ursprungliche Nachricht- Von: Dennis Saputelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. August 2002 17:52 An: Protel EDA Forum Betreff: Re: [PEDA] AW: DXP and Specctra

[PEDA] Antwort2: 99SE Crashes when trying to close design

2002-08-27 Thread ga
Hi Matt, another point I forgot to mention: If you have launched Protel without loading the DDB (by pressing the STRG key while Protel is loading), you can then try the repair function on the DDB that crashes your system (Down Arrow/Design Utilities/Repair). You can only repair DDBs which are

Re: [PEDA] Protel vs. DirectCD

2002-08-27 Thread Brian Guralnick
Yes, this was mentioned in one of my earlier posts, though, it was met with a healthy dose of skepticism. I did recommend for everyone to un-install anything Roxio related and completely switch over to Ahead's Nero CD writer software drivers for the best system stability. You could

Re: [PEDA] AW: AW: DXP and Specctra

2002-08-27 Thread Dennis Saputelli
oh i see, thanks i was looking to export schematic to Orcad .DSN files, same file extension i guess Dennis Saputelli Georg Beckmann wrote: Tricky, with pcb file aktiv, select file save as, then select export specctra design file (*.dsn) Georg -Ursprungliche Nachricht-

Re: [PEDA] Protel vs. DirectCD

2002-08-27 Thread mariusrf
if you Google rec.video.desktop you will see the vast majority of people had problems with roxio and switched to ahead nero for cd burning . directcd and easy cd creator historically had tons of issues with the most diverse pc configurations . Matt Tudor , MSEE

Re: [PEDA] Protel vs. DirectCD

2002-08-27 Thread Tim Hutcheson
Ahead's Nero Burning ROM is absolutely the best. Hand's down. No question. I bought a new drive just to avoid my external USB Predator burner that doesn't run reliably with my old 350 MHz system, even at 1X burn rate. I had to disconnect from the internet, close all apps etc. So when I got

Re: [PEDA] Protel vs. DirectCD

2002-08-27 Thread Matt Daggett
Warning Unable to process data: multipart/mixed; boundary==_NextPartTM-000-ac776102-da2a-4864-a5f7-07a326223649

Re: [PEDA] Protel vs. DirectCD

2002-08-27 Thread Dennis Saputelli
it works for me (new roxio) i have had far less coasters w/ roxio than nero and i find it much easier to use but i usually close all other apps while burning and don't do other tasks at the same time Dennis Saputelli mariusrf wrote: if you Google rec.video.desktop you will see the vast

Re: [PEDA] Protel vs. DirectCD

2002-08-27 Thread Brad Velander
NERO is reportedly the best but when you have problems, there is 'NO' support beyond their webpage FAQ sheets. I tried for 3 months to get some technical assistance from them, after two months of emails I got two emails in one day and then they never responded again after I replied with my

Re: [PEDA] Protel vs. DirectCD

2002-08-27 Thread Joel Hammer
while nero is a quality cdrw package... i am running steinberg instant cd/dvd and instant backup on my machines. 1 = win 98se 1 = win2K neither of which have problems i can attribute to the cdrw s'ware. direct cd has caused problems that you would not believe on every system that i've seen it

Re: [PEDA] Protel vs. DirectCD

2002-08-27 Thread Matt Daggett
Warning Unable to process data: multipart/mixed; boundary==_NextPartTM-000-d393a868-351b-4120-926f-3c8d2957d2c2

Re: [PEDA] Protel vs. DirectCD

2002-08-27 Thread Tony Karavidas
It may be fast, but it is useable or noticeable in a workstation?? Probably not. I've been watching my harddisk like, and it rarely blinks. That tell me my system doesn't spend much time chugging on the disk and therefore why would I pay 3 times as much for SCSI as I would with ATA100? I just

Re: [PEDA] SCSI v IDE IBM Deathstars (was Protel vs. DirectCD)

2002-08-27 Thread Dennis Saputelli
without disputing any of your assertions which may be entirely correct, my personal experience has been different every scsi drive i ever had died on me (4 or 5 of them, different eras and makers) i have never had an IDE die (knock on wood) also there is another layer to scsi which has given me

Re: [PEDA] Dxp forum

2002-08-27 Thread Michael Reagan (EDSI)
This forum has really gone downhill I think its time to bail this forum and see what is happening in the DXP forum. Can anyone post the link for the DXP forum Frankly Im tired of hearing , My protel doesnt work with SCSI, or cd rom , or doesnt run nwhen I listen to nSync in the backround on

Re: [PEDA] File Size Limit?

2002-08-27 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Jason, another option could be not to cross hatch the polygons but to do only vertical or horizontal pouring. Igor -Original Message- From: Jason Morgan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 27 August 2002 10:22 PM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] File Size Limit?

Re: [PEDA] Antwort: 99SE Crashes when trying to close design

2002-08-27 Thread Gareth De Mar
Yeah I've had this one too. Didn't know about the control key though! I renamed the file. The file is still corrupt though, and not sure how to fix it. Tried repair, didn't work. I haven't worried about it too much, as its only happened in this one test file that I do a lot of playing around

[PEDA] Got a couple of P99SE bugs to add to our Yahoo bug list?

2002-08-27 Thread Brad Velander
Hi all, I checked the Yahoo bug list, but scanning it I couldn't find these particular bugs listed. PCB P99SE SP6 Library Part Placement Manually placing land pattern in PCB. After clicking Place in the library browse window, move the component across your design. While moving

Re: [PEDA] Dxp forum

2002-08-27 Thread Ian Capps
Michael Send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ian Capps - Original Message - From: Michael Reagan (EDSI) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Dxp forum This forum has really gone downhill I think

Re: [PEDA] Dxp forum

2002-08-27 Thread Dennis Saputelli
the DXP forum is only for DXP tech issues they don't seem to want to even mention 99 Dennis Saputelli * Tracking #: CCA28224CEE39A449013B2227DE340023D96B602 *

Re: [PEDA] Dxp forum

2002-08-27 Thread Tony Karavidas
Nah, we're just all so smart with 99SE that we now don't have much to say about it. (other than the I forgot if it does this...can someone tell me? or the newbie questions which have been answered pretty darn fast. You take it easy Mike. Maybe we'll see ya on the DXP forum someday.

Re: [PEDA] (No Subject)

2002-08-27 Thread Mark HARRISON
Hi, Running a Protel schematic through the rules checker before going anywhere near the PCB layout (or SPICE for that matter) is a very good idea. Protel may do this automatically when you create a netlist, but check all the option settings to make sure it does what you want. Rule checking can