This is a problem that crops up regularly in all versions of Protel. It is
likely that, at some point in laying out your PCB, some primitive or
component accidentally has been moved or placed outside your work area. It
may even be on a layer that you have turned off, such as a mechanical
Yes, and I've tried disabling/re-enabling, changing colors etc. no go.
Bob
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From: Jim Monroe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 2:42 PM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] FROM TOS
Bob- Is the Connections and From Tos layer enabled (use
Thanks for the interesting thought but I don't think that is the problem. I
did check for off sheet primitives with all layers on but nothing showed up.
When I select 'View | Fit Document' the board becomes a small patch at the
bottom left hand corner and the coordinates of the top right are
If my memory serves me right, there is another trick here. I beleive Protel
takes into account hidden comment and designator strings on the PCB when
it attempts to find the boundary of your design. At least this has been my
experience using Protel 99SE. The solution? If you can afford to turn on
At 2-9-2004 15:57, Dave Courtney wrote:
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Can I move the layout onto a new board to fix this?
'Save copy as ASCII', then open the ASCII copy to see if all is well again.
Then delete the original and rename the copy.
Worked for me.
Leo Potjewijd
hardware designer
Integrated Engineering B.V.
Dave Courtney wrote:
I am using DXP +SP2 and have a PCB design where the document size is very
much bigger than the board. Because of this I can't get a print preview or
generate Gerber files. In the latter case I get a 'film too small' error. I
don't know how the document size got changed but I
Provided you have wide spaces between traces, what is the thickest copper
(internal/external foil/plating) commonly acceptable to your Fab houses?
Jeff Condit
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Hi Jeff,
Jeff Condit wrote:
Provided you have wide spaces between traces, what is the thickest
copper (internal/external foil/plating) commonly acceptable to your
Fab houses?
I can comment only on 2 layers for wide spaces/tracks. That would be
140um thick + plating (16um for NiAu usually) or
Your symptom is exactly what is seen when a primitive, designator, note,
etc. has gone off into never-never land. Often the problem is something at
a negative absolute coordinate (off the bottom left corner) - Protel
doesn't know what to do with negative absolutes.
Yes, you can select and
Jeff,
2 oz. However, I have a friend out in Mentor OH who's company is a
contract mfg, and if my memory serves me correctly, they routinely
overplate and fab to 4oz or better, as they serve the heavy industrial
market (folks like CAT...) Definitely not proto quantities, however...
aj
Another interesting idea. Unfortunately this does not sort the problem but
it does provide a pointer to a possible solution. If I save the PCB file in
PCB ASCII file format then open it again the board outline (black box with
white grid) extends to the extreme right of the workspace. The DXP
The bounding rectangle is supposed to be the board outline. If there are
primitives out of bounds, Protel will extend the bounding rectangle to
include them - even if they are outside the actual board outline.
At this point, you best bet appears to be select, copy, and paste into a
new
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