A few of us work for the government and don't have to worry about details like
politeness and thoughtfulness.
That speaks volumes.
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, November 13, 2002 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] The othe half of DXP?
At 10:09 PM 11/12/2002, Andrew Jenkins wrote:
Actually, Flaming Altium has apparently resulted in Altium beginning to
listen to users, sans ATS, etc.
What was effective was the cogent and coherent commentary of users who
Jamie, check out the start up banner for DXP schematic, you'll notice that
its call 'nVisage' DXP, if you have dxp, you already have nvisage.
then turn off the banner 'cos its annoying.
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Subject: [PEDA] The othe half of DXP?
Now you know where your ATS money went.
I wonder if it comes with ATS.
Jami
Actually, Flaming Altium has apparently resulted in Altium beginning to
listen to users, sans ATS, etc.
aj
Either flames or lack of sales did it
Mike
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From where I have been sitting, Altiums' behaviour of
late has been highly commendable and I would suspect
has won back quite a few loyal supporters.
For the record, loyal supporters are by definition not the kind of
supporter
who needs to be won back. That's why they're referred to as
At 05:28 PM 11/12/2002, Fabian Hartery wrote:
Flaming Altium in this list appears to be useless. Altium never
forced any of its user's to pay for undesired upgrades right away. It did
apparantly appear so for a while. Henceforth, they cancelled ATS and in my
eyes this was an apparent apology.
At 10:09 PM 11/12/2002, Andrew Jenkins wrote:
Actually, Flaming Altium has apparently resulted in Altium beginning to
listen to users, sans ATS, etc.
What was effective was the cogent and coherent commentary of users who
found problems with, for example, ATS. I really doubt that much, if
They call it nVisage DXP, and at first glance it appears to be a schematic
capture package and simulator to front-end Altiums other products.
Actually, Jamie this one package I have been interested in. Perhaps they
are listening. I would be interested in seeing a demo of it before I buy.
I could be wrong, but after viewing the listed website link, I thought the
announcement was referring to a new product that includes only the schematic
portion of the current DXP. Although nVisage is a bit more than just the
schematic, it does not include any PCB tools at $2,995.00. I will have
Gents,
I really see no need for outrage at the releasing of Envisage DXP. At no
time, that I know of, was ATS actually charged for. ATS was free with the
first year in buying a new product seat. Has anyone actually paid for ATS in
this forum and got nothing ? If a 99 user bought ATS for real
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Subject: Re: [PEDA] The othe half of DXP?
I could be wrong, but after viewing the listed website link, I thought the
announcement was referring to a new product that includes only the
schematic
portion of the current DXP. Although nVisage is a bit more than just the
schematic, it does
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:05:33 +1000, Don Ingram wrote:
I was under the impression that this was exactly what a lot of people have
been asking for. eg Schematic sans PCB.
for $3000? Ouch...
Matt Pobursky
Maximum Performance Systems
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On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:51:06 -0500, Ivan Baggett wrote:
Still, $2995 is *WAY TOO MUCH* for a schematic package. Try $495, that's
what DOS Orcad used to cost in the 80's.
nVisage is WAY MORE than a schematic package - I don't remember SDT having
a Spice simulator?
Looks to me like DXP without
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