Re: [PEDA] schematic lib ?
I would concur with exactly what Peter has stated. Do two schematic symbols as close to identical for pin locations as is possible. Quite often on a BGA packaged part, there may be a few additional pins used anyway (additional gnds or pwrs, right)? Sincerely, Brad Velander. Lead PCB Designer Norsat International Inc. #300 - 4401 Still Creek Drive, Burnaby, B.C., Canada, V5C 6G9. Tel (604) 292-9089 (direct line) Fax (604) 292-9010 Website: www.norsat.com -Original Message- From: Peter W. Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:11 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] schematic lib ? I'd bite the bullet and do this the obvious, hard way: make a standard-numbered BGA footprint (A1,A2...) which you can reuse someday for a different part in the same package, then make 2 schematic symbols, one for each pkg. I'd at least put corresponding pins in the same locs on the 2 symbols so they can be easily 'swapped' in the schematic if necessary... good luck -- Peter W. Richards / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Design Engineer Reflectivity, Inc. ph 408 970 8881 x113 fx 408 970 8840 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] proteledaforum Digest for 2002-01-07
Sorry to cover old ground... What was the actual problem with 99SE on XP pro? Don, Thanks for trying to get back to the original problem. I am really pleased that everyone has such strong opinions on Microsoft Win XP and their preferences to W2K Pro, however, if I have followed the thread correctly my original post was related to Protel 99 se SP4 on Win XP home. I will install SP6 if the person that suggested this is what I should be running would like to confirm that this prevents the problems in Win XP home. I will install Win XP Pro if someone else can confirm that Protel 99 se works correctly without issues on this platform. I do not have W2K Pro available and I don't believe that this should be a necessary step for what is effectively a trivial Win XP Home compatibility problem that would take very little time for Protel/Altium to sort out. Protel 99 se SP4 does operate correctly on Win XP Home, however, it disables a few features in Win XP Home that are what I would call a nuisance. The problems were Win XP Home Help Support fails to run and related utilities, for example SFC /Scannow will not run, System Information will not run. The only way to make these XP Home features work again is to format and re-install XP, as soon as Protel 99 se is installed again the Win XP Home features immediately fail. Regards Dez Ellis * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
[PEDA] AW: Push Ostacle for VIA
Tools, preferences Interactive routing to push obstacle. That it. Georg -Urspr ngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. Januar 2002 08:23 An: Protel EDA Forum Betreff: [PEDA] Push Ostacle for VIA Hi, my problem is. I have route many parallel tracks. After that, I must place in the middle of this parallel tracks a via. So I need place for this via. I must push all tracks manually. Is there a tool or a macro , to make Push Obstacle for VIA's ? Harald Br nig * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] WIN XP Problems. WAS: proteledaforum Digest for 2002- 01-07
Dez, since your problem is actually with Win XP Home, have you tried to talk to Microsoft? Yeah I know, maybe an hour on the phone just to be shunted around or told it is the applications problem, but somewhere, sometime, Microsoft has got to be made responsible for their junk. Secondly, it doesn't seem that you have tried Protel for their comments. They also have to be made responsible for their product. It would be interesting if you posted Protel's response on Win XP back to forum afterwards. Then we might all gleen some information on Protel's intended handling of XP. Short of this, it seems that there are strong opinions on this forum but little prospect of help for you because nobody else seems to be using or planning to use XP. I do remember hearing almost the exact same problems here or on the NGs a while back, never heard of anybody coming up with a solution then either. Sincerely, Brad Velander. Lead PCB Designer Norsat International Inc. #300 - 4401 Still Creek Drive, Burnaby, B.C., Canada, V5C 6G9. Tel (604) 292-9089 (direct line) Fax (604) 292-9010 Website: www.norsat.com -Original Message- From: Derek Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:56 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] proteledaforum Digest for 2002-01-07 Sorry to cover old ground... What was the actual problem with 99SE on XP pro? Don, Thanks for trying to get back to the original problem. I am really pleased that everyone has such strong opinions on Microsoft Win XP and their preferences to W2K Pro, however, if I have followed the thread correctly my original post was related to Protel 99 se SP4 on Win XP home. I will install SP6 if the person that suggested this is what I should be running would like to confirm that this prevents the problems in Win XP home. I will install Win XP Pro if someone else can confirm that Protel 99 se works correctly without issues on this platform. I do not have W2K Pro available and I don't believe that this should be a necessary step for what is effectively a trivial Win XP Home compatibility problem that would take very little time for Protel/Altium to sort out. Protel 99 se SP4 does operate correctly on Win XP Home, however, it disables a few features in Win XP Home that are what I would call a nuisance. The problems were Win XP Home Help Support fails to run and related utilities, for example SFC /Scannow will not run, System Information will not run. The only way to make these XP Home features work again is to format and re-install XP, as soon as Protel 99 se is installed again the Win XP Home features immediately fail. Regards Dez Ellis * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] WIN XP Problems. WAS: proteledaforum Digest for 2002- 01-07
I got an answer for ya: NO I just called them and they said the current version doesn't work because it hasn't been tested(which is not mutually exclusive). The new version coming out this quarter will probably work with XP. So there you have it! Tony -Original Message- From: Brad Velander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 12:25 PM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] WIN XP Problems. WAS: proteledaforum Digest for 2002- 01-07 Dez, since your problem is actually with Win XP Home, have you tried to talk to Microsoft? Yeah I know, maybe an hour on the phone just to be shunted around or told it is the applications problem, but somewhere, sometime, Microsoft has got to be made responsible for their junk. Secondly, it doesn't seem that you have tried Protel for their comments. They also have to be made responsible for their product. It would be interesting if you posted Protel's response on Win XP back to forum afterwards. Then we might all gleen some information on Protel's intended handling of XP. Short of this, it seems that there are strong opinions on this forum but little prospect of help for you because nobody else seems to be using or planning to use XP. I do remember hearing almost the exact same problems here or on the NGs a while back, never heard of anybody coming up with a solution then either. Sincerely, Brad Velander. Lead PCB Designer Norsat International Inc. #300 - 4401 Still Creek Drive, Burnaby, B.C., Canada, V5C 6G9. Tel (604) 292-9089 (direct line) Fax (604) 292-9010 Website: www.norsat.com -Original Message- From: Derek Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:56 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] proteledaforum Digest for 2002-01-07 Sorry to cover old ground... What was the actual problem with 99SE on XP pro? Don, Thanks for trying to get back to the original problem. I am really pleased that everyone has such strong opinions on Microsoft Win XP and their preferences to W2K Pro, however, if I have followed the thread correctly my original post was related to Protel 99 se SP4 on Win XP home. I will install SP6 if the person that suggested this is what I should be running would like to confirm that this prevents the problems in Win XP home. I will install Win XP Pro if someone else can confirm that Protel 99 se works correctly without issues on this platform. I do not have W2K Pro available and I don't believe that this should be a necessary step for what is effectively a trivial Win XP Home compatibility problem that would take very little time for Protel/Altium to sort out. Protel 99 se SP4 does operate correctly on Win XP Home, however, it disables a few features in Win XP Home that are what I would call a nuisance. The problems were Win XP Home Help Support fails to run and related utilities, for example SFC /Scannow will not run, System Information will not run. The only way to make these XP Home features work again is to format and re-install XP, as soon as Protel 99 se is installed again the Win XP Home features immediately fail. Regards Dez Ellis * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Push Ostacle for VIA
On 08:23 AM 8/01/2002 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi, my problem is. I have route many parallel tracks. After that, I must place in the middle of this parallel tracks a via. So I need place for this via. I must push all tracks manually. Is there a tool or a macro , to make Push Obstacle for VIA's ? Harald BrĂ¼nig No - there is no such tool. Protel does have some facilities that may help your manual re-routing. 1) Turn on the Push-n-Shove manual routing mode (Tools|Preferences then on the Options tab change the Interactive Routing mode) 2) Turn on Loop Removal (same location as point 1). Using the Push mode you can move one of you most deeply embedded tracks out a little and the other parallel tracks will move out a to maintain the required clearance. I find that when shoving many tracks it helps to do a number of short segments to keep the speed up and to stop some confusion to the shove function when you get many tracks and long shove lengths. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] If your Protel has occasional 1-2 sec pauses in Win2K.
OK, my mistake, It almost gets rid of the problem. It just happens less often. Brian Guralnick - Original Message - From: Brian Guralnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 5:36 PM Subject: [PEDA] If your Protel has occasional 1-2 sec pauses in Win2K. | If your Protel has occasional 1-2 sec pauses in Win2K, in your bios, diable both COM | ports USB ports. This has a good chance of eliminating the problem. You may not | need to disable the USB ports, this tends to be more of a VIA motherboard chipset | issue. | | | Brian Guralnick | | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] If your Protel has occasional 1-2 sec pauses in Win2K.
Re: [PEDA] If your Protel has occasional 1-2 sec pauses in Win2K.
On 05:36 PM 1/8/2002 -0500, Brian Guralnick wrote: If your Protel has occasional 1-2 sec pauses in Win2K, in your bios, diable both COM ports USB ports. This has a good chance of eliminating the problem. You may not need to disable the USB ports, this tends to be more of a VIA motherboard chipset issue. Another cause (on Win98 anyway) is having a network card enabled but not connected to a network. Protel searches every so often for other active design stations, locking up the PC in the process (I guess because the network is not working). Disable the network adaptor to get around this one! Peter * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
[PEDA] Easytrax/Autotrax video driver V1.10
I know this will only interest a very small (diehard?!) subsection of this list, but it is probably still the best forum for posting: There is a new version of video driver for Protel Easytrax available at: http://www.airborn.com.au/easytrax.html The new version number is V1.10. Driver, with source, is free. The driver is also suitable for Protel autotrax and schmatic. This driver (and previous versions) allow autotrax to be used on modern video cards at higher resolutions (using VESA drivers). This version has a proper black background selectable as colour 0. Generally in the past, colours 0 and 15 selected white background. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] If your Protel has occasional 1-2 sec pauses in Win2K.
The problem doesn't seem to be Protel related. This bug can be reproduced with other apps which send many messages, or chopped up streams data through any network port. The problem might be linked to the COM+ handler. If the COM+ handler get a bug, and self re-initiates, it scans the com, usb parallel ports for new local connections. I know it sound crazy, but it's how Win2K finds new PNP items plugged to the ports at any time during system operations. Brian Guralnick - Original Message - From: Andrew Jenkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] If your Protel has occasional 1-2 sec pauses in Win2K. | On 05:36 PM 1/8/2002 -0500, Brian Guralnick wrote: | If your Protel has occasional 1-2 sec pauses in Win2K, in your bios, diable both COM | ports USB ports. This has a good chance of eliminating the problem. You may not | need to disable the USB ports, this tends to be more of a VIA motherboard chipset | issue. | | | Ah, yet another validation of my long-standing argument for never purchasing via-chipset motherboards. | | Are you seriously suggesting that users should disable their communication ports in order to run this product without incident? You ARE aware that there are quite a few engineers who use this product, (believe it or not, not all Protel users are PCB designers, with only paper and virtual paper as output, as might be misconstrued by some PEDA members), and that many of them also RELY on being able to use their com and/or usb ports to operate ancillary equipment? | | (Not a flame, just an observation, primarily for the Protel-corp lurkers...) | | aj | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] If your Protel has occasional 1-2 sec pauses in Win2K.
This is an example of how Norton screws with Adobe Illustrator. It affected my W2000 system until I read this. I was going nuts with a very sluggish Illustrator and I didn't know it was Norton because when I installed Norton, it was months until I used Illustrator again. http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/25316.htm It may be some problem other than Protel causing it. It never hurt to check around. Tony -Original Message- From: Peter McConaghy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 3:21 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] If your Protel has occasional 1-2 sec pauses in Win2K. On 05:36 PM 1/8/2002 -0500, Brian Guralnick wrote: If your Protel has occasional 1-2 sec pauses in Win2K, in your bios, diable both COM ports USB ports. This has a good chance of eliminating the problem. You may not need to disable the USB ports, this tends to be more of a VIA motherboard chipset issue. Another cause (on Win98 anyway) is having a network card enabled but not connected to a network. Protel searches every so often for other active design stations, locking up the PC in the process (I guess because the network is not working). Disable the network adaptor to get around this one! Peter * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] WIN XP Problems. WAS: proteledaforum Digest for 2002- 01-07
Another XP comment-- I have three systems running in my cube 2 with 98SE and 1 with XP. Have had nothing but problems trying to place XP in an engineering environment. So the XP system will become a dual boot machine doing clerical stuff only WORD and maybe EXCEL. I had problems even using it as a graphical system with mMicrosofts PhotoDraw. Downloading pictures from a Flash Compact Disk ( SanDisk) from my Nikon proved disastrous. XP showed good images in its browser/previewer when in fact it had corrupted 2 days worth of product photo shots. Screw Bill Gates and Microsofts push for yearly upgrades when in fact these improved products only add additional headaches to my world - Original Message - From: Brad Velander [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Protel EDA Forum' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] WIN XP Problems. WAS: proteledaforum Digest for 2002- 01-07 Dez, since your problem is actually with Win XP Home, have you tried to talk to Microsoft? Yeah I know, maybe an hour on the phone just to be shunted around or told it is the applications problem, but somewhere, sometime, Microsoft has got to be made responsible for their junk. Secondly, it doesn't seem that you have tried Protel for their comments. They also have to be made responsible for their product. It would be interesting if you posted Protel's response on Win XP back to forum afterwards. Then we might all gleen some information on Protel's intended handling of XP. Short of this, it seems that there are strong opinions on this forum but little prospect of help for you because nobody else seems to be using or planning to use XP. I do remember hearing almost the exact same problems here or on the NGs a while back, never heard of anybody coming up with a solution then either. Sincerely, Brad Velander. Lead PCB Designer Norsat International Inc. #300 - 4401 Still Creek Drive, Burnaby, B.C., Canada, V5C 6G9. Tel (604) 292-9089 (direct line) Fax (604) 292-9010 Website: www.norsat.com -Original Message- From: Derek Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:56 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] proteledaforum Digest for 2002-01-07 Sorry to cover old ground... What was the actual problem with 99SE on XP pro? Don, Thanks for trying to get back to the original problem. I am really pleased that everyone has such strong opinions on Microsoft Win XP and their preferences to W2K Pro, however, if I have followed the thread correctly my original post was related to Protel 99 se SP4 on Win XP home. I will install SP6 if the person that suggested this is what I should be running would like to confirm that this prevents the problems in Win XP home. I will install Win XP Pro if someone else can confirm that Protel 99 se works correctly without issues on this platform. I do not have W2K Pro available and I don't believe that this should be a necessary step for what is effectively a trivial Win XP Home compatibility problem that would take very little time for Protel/Altium to sort out. Protel 99 se SP4 does operate correctly on Win XP Home, however, it disables a few features in Win XP Home that are what I would call a nuisance. The problems were Win XP Home Help Support fails to run and related utilities, for example SFC /Scannow will not run, System Information will not run. The only way to make these XP Home features work again is to format and re-install XP, as soon as Protel 99 se is installed again the Win XP Home features immediately fail. Regards Dez Ellis * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
[PEDA] PowerPCB Conversion
G'Day all, Has any one got PowerPCB? Would you be prepared to check a small file and confirm it is in fact in PowerPCB format (what version we don't know, if you could tell us that would be nice). The file is binary rather than the supposedly-importable-into-P99SE ASCII format. Also, has anyone had any experience of importing PowerPCB ASCII files into Protel? Do designs remain intact or are there lots of mangling gotchas? Will we be able to bring designs done in PowerPCB into Protel and continue to maintain and further development of these designs effectively or will we really have to keep the products in PowerPCB? (We may have a significant number of files, maybe 10 to 20 or so, that we will want converted if anyone can do it. All commercially confidential so NDA's etc req'd. Expressions of interest or a preparedness to help would be appreciated but this could happen off-list direct to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks, Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] schematic lib ?
I had to organize my sch-lib for the same fact. It is possible to add more than one footprint to each schematic component, but I woudn't do that, because some parts have different numbering for different footprints. ( And perhaps some pins more or less which have to be treated in different ways. ) So the most simple and consequent way is to have a different schematic component for each different package and name it so. ( 74HC00_SO, 74HC00_DIL, 16V8_PLCC ) Georg I was afraid I was going to have to do this. Our engineers have selected a hand full of components that they are going to be using on all of our new designs. All the components picked come in three or four different package formats, which depending on the design are going to be used one time or another. So now I have to flag each component for each foot print. Thank you for the input, Ted * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *