Re: [PEDA] Port Sizing
I got it. In searching my [PEDA] archive I found the ORCAD PORTS issue. Problem fixed. Anthony Whitesell Sunrise Labs mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Anthony Whitesell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 11:17 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: [PEDA] Port Sizing I have a ddb with ports on each of 4 pages of the schematic. On the first machine, the length can be changed and is set so the schematic looks good. When I open the schematic on a second machine, the lengths of the ports gets changed and is fixed. I cannot change the port lengths in this ddb on the second machine. When I open it on the first machine all the port lengths are set to where they left the second machine, except for the fact that I can change them. The second machine seems to be autosizing the port length. If I increasing the port name length, the length increases, if I shorten the name the length decreases. Is this a new feature or a new bug? If it is a feature, HOW DO I TURN IT OFF? Anthony Whitesell Sunrise Labs mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The information in this email and its attachment(s) are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and should be assumed to contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not an intended recipient be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, modifying, distribution, or use of this information is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please forward this message and notify Sunrise Labs, Inc. immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] The information in this email and its attachment(s) are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and should be assumed to contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not an intended recipient be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, modifying, distribution, or use of this information is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please forward this message and notify Sunrise Labs, Inc. immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
[PEDA] Power Ports
Does anyone know how (if it is possible) to create a new power port symbol? Anthony Whitesell Sunrise Labs mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] A note about the Solution to Setup Mechanical Layers
Ian, All works fine. From the install that I found this bug, this is the way the INI file was ordered, I did not change what was there, changed added to the end what was missing. But here is the extremely curious thing. Why does installing Protel from the CD onto a clean machine have different effects? ie. Why does this not happen on all installations? I have unistalled and manually deleted all *99SE.ini files and re-installed or after installing on a fresh machine and do I not have to change the INI file for this correction? Obviously there must be some other bug going on. You have one layer drawing order, and I have two drawing orders. One missing mechanical layers 5-16, and one with the mechancial layers. And from reading the thread, it would seem that some people have had this problem and other not. Anthony Whitesell Sunrise Labs -Original Message- From: Ian Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 12:54 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Solution to Setup Mechanical Layers On 04:37 PM 13/02/2002 -0500, Anthony Whitesell said: Ken, I had this problem myself a while back. Mechanical Layer 1-4 work fine, but 5-16 disappear when refreshed using View - Refresh. When I was investigating this I had to flip though each layer using the + key to refresh the board, because view - refresh was not setup correctly. The problem is that the layer drawing order does not contain the mechanical layers beyond layer 4. (When Protel increased to 16 mechancial layers they forgot to add them to the layer drawing order in the INI file). Check under TOOLS - PREFERENCES - DISPLAY - LAYER DRAWING ORDER and see if all of your (mechanical) layers are listed there. I had to manually edit the ADVPCB99SE.INI file and change some of the LayerDrawingOrderxx=xx because there is no add button beacuse all of the layers SHOULD be listed. It represents the list of the layers in the board and the order they are to be drawn. Below is a copy of the layer drawing order from my modified INI file: LayerDrawingOrder0=76 Anthony, This is funny, according to the info on layer numbers that I was provided (by Protel) on the layer numbering you have LayerDrawingOrder0 as the background layer. I wonder what affect this is having? My ini file has: LayerDrawingOrder0=74 LayerDrawingOrder1=33 LayerDrawingOrder2=34 LayerDrawingOrder3=75 LayerDrawingOrder4=0 LayerDrawingOrder5=1 LayerDrawingOrder6=2 LayerDrawingOrder7=3 ... ... My LayerDrawingOrder0 is set to to MultiLayer while yours is set to BackGroundLayer. I am intrigued about what the effect of you having the first layer as the background? (For a complete list of the layer numbers see the end of my other post on this subject.) Bye for now, Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Solution to Setup Mechanical Layers
Ken, I had this problem myself a while back. Mechanical Layer 1-4 work fine, but 5-16 disappear when refreshed using View - Refresh. When I was investigating this I had to flip though each layer using the + key to refresh the board, because view - refresh was not setup correctly. The problem is that the layer drawing order does not contain the mechanical layers beyond layer 4. (When Protel increased to 16 mechancial layers they forgot to add them to the layer drawing order in the INI file). Check under TOOLS - PREFERENCES - DISPLAY - LAYER DRAWING ORDER and see if all of your (mechanical) layers are listed there. I had to manually edit the ADVPCB99SE.INI file and change some of the LayerDrawingOrderxx=xx because there is no add button beacuse all of the layers SHOULD be listed. It represents the list of the layers in the board and the order they are to be drawn. Below is a copy of the layer drawing order from my modified INI file: LayerDrawingOrder0=76 LayerDrawingOrder1=33 LayerDrawingOrder2=74 LayerDrawingOrder3=34 LayerDrawingOrder4=75 LayerDrawingOrder5=0 LayerDrawingOrder6=1 LayerDrawingOrder7=2 LayerDrawingOrder8=3 LayerDrawingOrder9=4 LayerDrawingOrder10=5 LayerDrawingOrder11=6 LayerDrawingOrder12=7 LayerDrawingOrder13=8 LayerDrawingOrder14=9 LayerDrawingOrder15=10 LayerDrawingOrder16=11 LayerDrawingOrder17=12 LayerDrawingOrder18=13 LayerDrawingOrder19=14 LayerDrawingOrder20=15 LayerDrawingOrder21=32 LayerDrawingOrder22=35 LayerDrawingOrder23=36 LayerDrawingOrder24=37 LayerDrawingOrder25=38 LayerDrawingOrder26=39 LayerDrawingOrder27=40 LayerDrawingOrder28=41 LayerDrawingOrder29=42 LayerDrawingOrder30=55 LayerDrawingOrder31=56 LayerDrawingOrder32=57 LayerDrawingOrder33=58 LayerDrawingOrder34=59 LayerDrawingOrder35=60 LayerDrawingOrder36=73 LayerDrawingOrder37=79 LayerDrawingOrder38=61 LayerDrawingOrder39=62 LayerDrawingOrder40=63 LayerDrawingOrder41=64 LayerDrawingOrder42=65 LayerDrawingOrder43=66 LayerDrawingOrder44=67 LayerDrawingOrder45=68 LayerDrawingOrder46=69 LayerDrawingOrder47=70 LayerDrawingOrder48=71 LayerDrawingOrder49=72 LayerDrawingOrder50=76 LayerDrawingOrder51=76 LayerDrawingOrder52=76 LayerDrawingOrder53=76 LayerDrawingOrder54=76 LayerDrawingOrder55=76 LayerDrawingOrder56=76 LayerDrawingOrder57=76 LayerDrawingOrder58=76 LayerDrawingOrder59=76 LayerDrawingOrder60=76 LayerDrawingOrder61=76 LayerDrawingOrder62=76 LayerDrawingOrder63=76 LayerDrawingOrder64=76 LayerDrawingOrder65=76 LayerDrawingOrder66=76 LayerDrawingOrder67=76 LayerDrawingOrder68=76 LayerDrawingOrder69=76 LayerDrawingOrder70=76 LayerDrawingOrder71=76 LayerDrawingOrder72=76 LayerDrawingOrder73=76 LayerDrawingOrder74=76 LayerDrawingOrder75=76 LayerDrawingOrder76=76 LayerDrawingOrder77=76 LayerDrawingOrder78=76 LayerDrawingOrder79=76 LayerDrawingOrder80=76 LayerDrawingOrder81=76 LayerDrawingOrder82=76 The trouble should lie in LayerDrawingOrder number 38 to 49. Originally mine were equal to 76 (no layer?) I changed them to 61 to 72 (Mechanical Layers 5 to 16). I found that Layer 60 is Mechanical Layer 4, then it skipped to 73 (Drill Drawing Layer). I added 61 to 72 (Mechanical Layers 5 to 16) and all is well now. Good Luck. Anthony Whitesell Sunrise Labs -Original Message- From: Ken Henrich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 3:56 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] need help with Setup Mechanical Layers, please Bran, Abdulrahman, After reading your replies, some of my confusion has been dispelled. I agree with you that if the mechanical layer set-up is greyed out, that there are primitives on that layer. I only have two mechanical layers with nothing on them. These are indeed selectable. Back to my display problem. I have used the mechanical layers to create drawings. For instance, one layer is the drawing template, another is text with board specifications, others are titles with page numbers and so on. When I go into preview, I combine the layers that I need to generate the desired drawing. In preview, I have no problem getting the data to appear. However, in the PCB edit mode, I cannot get every layer to display at once. If I could, I would get everything that I have placed on every layer. I do have all mechanical layers visible in the mechanical layers setup dialog. In the design/options dialog I set use all layers. Now even though all the layers do not display, if I scan with the mouse, an area known to have a primitive I will see it pop up in the status display. I can then click the mouse and edit its properties normally. When I close the properties box, the primitive displays. When I hit view/refresh, it disappears. This board is a simple 2 layer board. Layers directly associated with the board always show. (top bottom, silkscreen ) I'm using sp6 on a win2k box. Thanks for your help. Ken -Original Message- From: Brad Velander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 2:46 PM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re
Re: [PEDA] Polygons
There is a utility to rebuild all polygons in the Yahoo group for download. It was written by Jason Morgan from Citel Technologies. I have been using it for about 6 months and it works great! Thank you Jason. Anthony Whitesell Sunrise Labs -Original Message- From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 12:14 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Polygons At 03:05 PM 2/5/2002 +1100, Thomas wrote: There is a 'redraw all polygons' server written by one of this groups members (I think). Perhaps it could be altered to accomplish your request. It might help, but it will still be necessary to edit each polygon. Global edit on polygons would not be a simple matter. You can globally edit the track, as noted, but then the track will not correspond to what was used when the track positions were calculated. One could do an edit on the ASCII database to edit draw characteristics, and then use the server or one of the other workarounds to redraw all of them. (Changing the polygon fields would not change the generated track.) That's what I think of. If there are a *lot* of polygons it might be worth going this way. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Abdulrahman Lomax Easthampton, Massachusetts USA * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Schematics no longer recognized.
David, Check to make sure that the schematic sheet server is still installed. Click the down arrow next to the FILE menu item then select SERVERS. I have more than once lost various servers from the list for no apparent reason and has stopped me from opening the sheets whether it was schematic or layout because the server was not installed anymore. Anthony Whitesell Sunrise Labs -Original Message- From: Dwight Harm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 12:03 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Schematics no longer recognized. It might be a file association problem. I think if .sch gets associated with a non-Protel program, it can have effects such as you described. Does a .sch file in Explorer show a schematic icon, or something else? Some scheduling programs use .sch, so installing or updating such a product could have changed the association. -Original Message- From: David Braendler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 2:40 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: [PEDA] Schematics no longer recognized. Hi, I am having a curious problem with Protel 99SE where it does not recognise schematic documents. When I try to open such a document, nothing happens. If I try to assign the document as type 'schematic' I find that the option is no longer there! If I try to create a new schematic document, I also find that this option is no longer there! The software still recgnises (and opens) PCB documents and CAM documents. When I try to repair the installation, the problem is not fixed. When I remove the schematic option and then reinstall it, the problem is still not fixed. The only thing that I am yet to try is a total re-install, but I would rather see if the problem can be fixed in another way before I do that. Has anyone come across this problem and/or know how to fix it?? Cheers David Braendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Electronic Engineer Colour Vision Systems 11 Park Street Bacchus Marsh 3340 Victoria, Australia Ph : +61 3 5367 6410 Fax : +61 3 5367 4480 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
[PEDA] Design Rules
Does anyone know if it is possible (or how to) set a design rule to check between the overlay and the soldermask layers? If you place a designator over a pad or via then it does not appear correctly on the finished PCB. I have simplified the solution to check the reference designators versus the [inverted] soldermask of the same side and make sure they don't overlap. I was hoping to automate the process with a design rule. Any ideas? Anthony Whitesell Sunrise Labs * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] .TXT File generation
I know that the pick and Place file when you generate the Gerber files will give the X/Y coordinates of the components and their rotation. I am not familiar with a way to get the testpoint coordinates Anthony Whitesell Sunrise Labs -Original Message- From: Tim Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 11:41 AM To: Protel EDA Form Subject: [PEDA] .TXT File generation My production facility (not pcb house) is asking for the following: X/Y coordinates of components .TXT file X/Y coordinates of test points/pads in .TXT file Is it possible to generate those files in P99SE? If so, how? Tim * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] URGENT!!!
No source or seed for the polygon to attach to. The polygon is isolated from its net. Try placing a via in the region of the polygon and then double click the polygon and press return in order to get the polygon to rebuild. I have been dealing with this over the past few days. Anthony Whitesell Sunrise Labs -Original Message- From: Sean James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:28 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: [PEDA] URGENT!!! What would keep a polygon pour from not forming if A. There are no keepouts. B. There are no areas present to create dead copper pours. C. I am pouring over the same net. Sean James PCB Designer Telecast Fiber Systems, Inc. 102 Grove Street Worcester, MA 01605 (TEL) 508.754.4858 x33 (FAX) 413.541.6170 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Excellon Drill Files
Have you moved the origin of the PCB? I have found often run into disconnect between the gerber output and the drill output origin if the origin was changed using the EditOrigin Command. There is a reset command (EditOriginReset). Try resetting the origin and outputing all new files. The .txt file is probably the file you will want to use. Anthony W. -Original Message- From: Watnoski, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 11:13 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [PEDA] Excellon Drill Files Importance: High Hi All, I have been trying to import Protel drill files into a Gerber viewer (ViewMate) for checking. The .drl file has not been able to be read properly, regardless of the settings used for generation. The .txt file displays, but not in the proper locations. It does not appear to be scaling issue relating to the selection of imperial or metric, or zero suppression.. Does anyone have any suggestions? Michael This message was scanned for viruses on behalf of The Black Decker Corporation. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
[PEDA] McAfee and Protel 99SE
Does anyone know how to get McAfee v5.16 and Protel 99SE with SP6 on Windows 2000 with SP2 to play nice together. When I start and exit Protel McAfee scans everything (taking up to 60% of the CPU resourse). It also happens when I am working in the print preview area. Anthony W. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
