Re: [PEDA] Warning about the ASUS AGP-V7100/2V1D video card.

2001-12-17 Thread HxEngr




Re: [PEDA] Warning about the ASUS AGP-V7100/2V1D video card.

2001-12-17 Thread Cliff Ober

Brian,

I run (on my work machine, Dell Dimension 4100) an NVidia GeForce 32MB DDR
AGP board as the primary, and a 3dfx Voodoo3 16MB secondary controller, with
Win2k SP2. Not the most cutting edge adapters, but I've had no problems of
any sort with any package, including P99SE SP6. It's a real nice setup.

Cliff Ober


-Original Message-
From: Brian Guralnick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 12:40 PM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: [PEDA] Warning about the ASUS AGP-V7100/2V1D video card.


I just set up a dual head display system with this ASUS dual head video
card.  A
GeForce2 MX card with dual head output.  It's a lemon.  What ever you do,
avoid this
card all together.

The main video out is a little blurry, but the secondary display is
completely blurry
at 1280x1024 x 75Hz.  All the letters are pail and thin with some ghosting.

I'm either going back to Matrox G4xx, or getting a single display
GeForce3 with
an old Matrox Millennium in a PCI slot.

Has anyone else successfully run an AGP video card with an old PCI video
card in
Win2K?


Brian Guralnick


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Re: [PEDA] Warning about the ASUS AGP-V7100/2V1D video card.

2001-12-17 Thread Tony Karavidas

Don't discount the notion that your card may be defective. Have you tried a
replacement? I could see you bagging on it if two in a row where like that.

Tony



 -Original Message-
 From: Brian Guralnick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 10:40 AM
 To: Protel EDA Forum
 Subject: [PEDA] Warning about the ASUS AGP-V7100/2V1D video card.


 I just set up a dual head display system with this ASUS dual head
 video card.  A
 GeForce2 MX card with dual head output.  It's a lemon.  What ever
 you do, avoid this
 card all together.

 The main video out is a little blurry, but the secondary display
 is completely blurry
 at 1280x1024 x 75Hz.  All the letters are pail and thin with some
 ghosting.

 I'm either going back to Matrox G4xx, or getting a single
 display GeForce3 with
 an old Matrox Millennium in a PCI slot.

 Has anyone else successfully run an AGP video card with an
 old PCI video card in
 Win2K?

 
 Brian Guralnick

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Re: [PEDA] Warning about the ASUS AGP-V7100/2V1D video card.

2001-12-17 Thread Brian Guralnick

I only use BNC cables.  Both monitors are Mitsubishi 4040u.  Replacing the video card
with my Matrox G400 creates a perfect image, exactly matched, on both screens.  No
blur at all.


Brian Guralnick


- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Warning about the ASUS AGP-V7100/2V1D video card.


| In a message dated 12/17/2001 1:46:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
|
|
|  I just set up a dual head display system with this ASUS dual head video
|  card.  A
|  GeForce2 MX card with dual head output.  It's a lemon.  What ever you do,
|  avoid this
|  card all together.
| 
|  The main video out is a little blurry, but the secondary display is
|  completely blurry
|  at 1280x1024 x 75Hz.  All the letters are pail and thin with some ghosting.
| 
|
| Any chance that you might have some wimpy cables, or that you're using a
| cheap KVM switch? Can you swap those cables, switch, monitor, etc. onto
| another video card to prove that it's really the card? Video signals for that
| setup are pushing well up into 9 digits worth of MHz and really have to be
| handled with care; you may want to do some more testing before condemning the
| video card. I'll be interested to hear the outcome of any further testing.
|
| Steve Hendrix
|
|

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Re: [PEDA] Warning about the ASUS AGP-V7100/2V1D video card.

2001-12-17 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support

Are you sure you are using the right type of coax in your BNC cables?  Could
be signal reflection from impedance mismatching.

I seem to remember that many coax/BNC cables are 50 ohm.

But most video signals are based on 75 ohm termination.

You need special 75 ohm BNC cables if you have 75 ohm video equipment.

Best regards,
Ivan Baggett
Bagotronix Inc.
website:  www.bagotronix.com


- Original Message -
From: Brian Guralnick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Warning about the ASUS AGP-V7100/2V1D video card.


 I only use BNC cables.  Both monitors are Mitsubishi 4040u.  Replacing the
video card
 with my Matrox G400 creates a perfect image, exactly matched, on both
screens.  No
 blur at all.

 
 Brian Guralnick


 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 1:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [PEDA] Warning about the ASUS AGP-V7100/2V1D video card.


 | In a message dated 12/17/2001 1:46:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,
 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 |
 |
 |  I just set up a dual head display system with this ASUS dual head
video
 |  card.  A
 |  GeForce2 MX card with dual head output.  It's a lemon.  What ever you
do,
 |  avoid this
 |  card all together.
 | 
 |  The main video out is a little blurry, but the secondary display is
 |  completely blurry
 |  at 1280x1024 x 75Hz.  All the letters are pail and thin with some
ghosting.
 | 
 |
 | Any chance that you might have some wimpy cables, or that you're using a
 | cheap KVM switch? Can you swap those cables, switch, monitor, etc. onto
 | another video card to prove that it's really the card? Video signals for
that
 | setup are pushing well up into 9 digits worth of MHz and really have to
be
 | handled with care; you may want to do some more testing before
condemning the
 | video card. I'll be interested to hear the outcome of any further
testing.
 |
 | Steve Hendrix
 |
 |


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Re: [PEDA] Warning about the ASUS AGP-V7100/2V1D video card.

2001-12-17 Thread Brian Guralnick

It's the video card.  The only way to get 2 good images with the V7100/2V1D is to
have 1 digital LCD screen connected  1 analog screen connected on the main analog
output.


Brian Guralnick


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From: Bagotronix Tech Support [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Warning about the ASUS AGP-V7100/2V1D video card.


| Are you sure you are using the right type of coax in your BNC cables?  Could
| be signal reflection from impedance mismatching.
|
| I seem to remember that many coax/BNC cables are 50 ohm.
|
| But most video signals are based on 75 ohm termination.
|
| You need special 75 ohm BNC cables if you have 75 ohm video equipment.
|
| Best regards,
| Ivan Baggett
| Bagotronix Inc.
| website:  www.bagotronix.com
|
|
| - Original Message -
| From: Brian Guralnick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 4:54 PM
| Subject: Re: [PEDA] Warning about the ASUS AGP-V7100/2V1D video card.
|
|
|  I only use BNC cables.  Both monitors are Mitsubishi 4040u.  Replacing the
| video card
|  with my Matrox G400 creates a perfect image, exactly matched, on both
| screens.  No
|  blur at all.
| 
|  
|  Brian Guralnick
| 
| 
|  - Original Message -
|  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 1:56 PM
|  Subject: Re: [PEDA] Warning about the ASUS AGP-V7100/2V1D video card.
| 
| 
|  | In a message dated 12/17/2001 1:46:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,
|  | [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
|  |
|  |
|  |  I just set up a dual head display system with this ASUS dual head
| video
|  |  card.  A
|  |  GeForce2 MX card with dual head output.  It's a lemon.  What ever you
| do,
|  |  avoid this
|  |  card all together.
|  | 
|  |  The main video out is a little blurry, but the secondary display is
|  |  completely blurry
|  |  at 1280x1024 x 75Hz.  All the letters are pail and thin with some
| ghosting.
|  | 
|  |
|  | Any chance that you might have some wimpy cables, or that you're using a
|  | cheap KVM switch? Can you swap those cables, switch, monitor, etc. onto
|  | another video card to prove that it's really the card? Video signals for
| that
|  | setup are pushing well up into 9 digits worth of MHz and really have to
| be
|  | handled with care; you may want to do some more testing before
| condemning the
|  | video card. I'll be interested to hear the outcome of any further
| testing.
|  |
|  | Steve Hendrix
|  |
|  |
| 
|
|


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Re: [PEDA] Warning about the ASUS AGP-V7100/2V1D video card.

2001-12-17 Thread Jon Elson

Brian Guralnick wrote:

 I only use BNC cables.  Both monitors are Mitsubishi 4040u.  Replacing the video card
 with my Matrox G400 creates a perfect image, exactly matched, on both screens.  No
 blur at all.

Hmm, very odd.  I have some BNC monitors, too.  I have seen a 'blurry'
image when the termination switches on the monitor were in the wrong
(off) position.  That shouldn't happen if you are using the same monitor
to compare, unless you somehow turned the terninators off during the
changeover.

I have also had horrible results with what was supposed to be a high-grade
monitor extension cable I used with a monitor switch.  I first suspected the
switch, but it turned out the cables were not 'high grade', but just a bunch
of plain wires bundled in a foil shield!  I made up some of my own cables from
RG-178 and 15-pin sub-mini connectors, and the result was fine.

Jon

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Re: [PEDA] Warning about the ASUS AGP-V7100/2V1D video card.

2001-12-17 Thread Thomas

Over the past two days  I too have come to the conclusion that this card is
a pig (nVIDIA GeForce2 MX400).
It's got 32M more video memory than my old AGP video card, but the
performance when playing games like Quake II or Unreal is just woeful, (I
know it's not intended for gaming but either was my old card). It's going
back.

Tom.

-Original Message-
From: Brian Guralnick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 18 December 2001 5:40 AM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: [PEDA] Warning about the ASUS AGP-V7100/2V1D video card.


I just set up a dual head display system with this ASUS dual head video
card.  A
GeForce2 MX card with dual head output.  It's a lemon.  What ever you do,
avoid this
card all together.

The main video out is a little blurry, but the secondary display is
completely blurry
at 1280x1024 x 75Hz.  All the letters are pail and thin with some ghosting.

I'm either going back to Matrox G4xx, or getting a single display
GeForce3 with
an old Matrox Millennium in a PCI slot.

Has anyone else successfully run an AGP video card with an old PCI video
card in
Win2K?


Brian Guralnick


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