Re: [PEDA] Does the Autorouter actually work?

2002-07-22 Thread Robert M. Wolfe
ComputerVision or say Daisy that actually left shorts in th eboard after autorouted and that was on a benchmark board. Bob Wolfe - Original Message - From: "Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002

Re: [PEDA] Does the Autorouter actually work?

2002-07-18 Thread Phillip Stevens
B> 2. The autorouter finishes, announces that it has completed 87% of the board B> (or something like that), and leaves behind hundreds of design rule B> violations, mainly shorts and clearance violations. Tracks will be on top of B> each other and on top of vias. Vias will be in tooling holes.

Re: [PEDA] Does the Autorouter actually work?

2002-07-18 Thread Dennis Saputelli
i think Lloyd's assessment here is pretty spot on the router prefers an empty board, depending on your level of fussiness it may not be suitable for your work Lloyd Johnson wrote: > > In my experience the autorouter works well when starting from scratch 2 or 4 > layer boards. You have to get th

Re: [PEDA] Does the Autorouter actually work?

2002-07-18 Thread Lloyd Johnson
In my experience the autorouter works well when starting from scratch 2 or 4 layer boards. You have to get the design rules right for the density you are hoping to accomplish. I have not had good luck invoking the auto-router to just route a few new added parts to an existing high density design.

Re: [PEDA] Does the Autorouter actually work?

2002-07-18 Thread Jon Elson
Bagotronix Tech Support wrote: > Evidently I have much better luck with the autorouter than most of you folks > do. > > I have used it on boards ranging from 2-sided to 8 layer. I admit that > there are sometimes things it does which baffle me, but I don't get the > design rule violations like w

Re: [PEDA] Does the Autorouter actually work?

2002-07-18 Thread Duane Foster
Are you starting the board 75% routed? If so, be sure all tracks are correctly assigned to nets before autorouting and be sure to lock preroutes if you do not want them altered. Of course 'locking preroutes' may not give the autorouter enough 'room' to put in remaining tracks, which leads to sh

Re: [PEDA] Does the Autorouter actually work?

2002-07-18 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
- Original Message - From: "Joey Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Does the Autorouter actually work? > I've previously used the autorouter on a 6/6

Re: [PEDA] Does the Autorouter actually work?

2002-07-18 Thread Joey Nelson
I've previously used the autorouter on a 6/6 4 layer board with out many problems. When using the autorouter I've always had to spend a lot of time cleaning up the routes. Since that time, I've stopped using the autorouter. After I saw how much better I can do by hand, with a little more effort t

Re: [PEDA] Does the Autorouter actually work?

2002-07-18 Thread Tim Fifield
I have never had the autorouter work for me on anything more than a very basic 2 sided pcb. Even then, I don't like what it does. I do everything manually. Perhaps I need some training on how to run it properly Tim * T

[PEDA] Does the Autorouter actually work?

2002-07-18 Thread Bill
Hi, I've been monitoring this group for a few months now. An associate has a job to make some changes to his customer's board, and the customer is using Protel 99SE SP6. Since he's not yet joined the group, he wanted me to post this for him: We're still hammering away at a 6-layer board w