Re: [PEDA] How to change drawing order?
Ian, I think I understand it now. Thanks. JaMi - Original Message - From: Ian Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] How to change drawing order? On 06:21 AM 15/10/2003, JaMi Smith said: I know that at some time on my OC system, I appeared to have lost the ability to alter the color of the Connections (if I ever had that ability), and I even seem to have lost that ability on my home installation too, although I do not remember having ever hit the Default Button on this system. Ian, You are probably the best one to explain this all, and also clarify why I would need to do something with the data you have provided below, and how I can tell whether or not I need to do anything at all. Whew - all a bit long I had to scan quickly to the question; I did as I thought there may be some confusion over this. When you click on the Default button on the Drawing Order screen the system writes the new order into the ini file (see the stuff I wrote before). The problem is that it does not write correct information for the new mech layers (newly introduced in P99 or was it P99SE). Pressing the Default button causes loss of the new mech layers until you manually twiddle the ini file. Ian * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] How to change drawing order?
Ian and the group, Ok, I have waited for the dust to settle on this one before asking what may appear to some to be a simple question, but before I do, I need to explain a few things. First, I am color blind. Not totally, as some might think, since I can see and distinguish most, if not all colors, but the type of color blindness that I have has to do more with shade distinction, and distinguishing certain colors from one another. The standard question that I get is how do you know what color the traffic light is?, and that is not the problem, since I can tell that red is red, and green is green, and yellow is yellow, etc., quite nicely. The problem that I have is telling certain shades of green from certain shades of brown, which sometimes I cannot distinguish very well at all, especially in low light conditions. I also have a problem with some other combinations of colors when there is not too much contrast in the colors, such a yellow lines or letters on a white background. Anyway, with that as a background, I have always preferred the Protel 98 Classic color scheme, as opposed to the Delivered (I am avoiding the use of the word Default here (even though that is what Protel calls it)) Protel 99 SE color scheme. I remember back in July of 01 when I first started at Optical Crossing and they bought me a brand new seat of P99SE which I installed on a brand new Dell 4100, after I installed the new copy of Protel, I changed the colors to suit my tastes (Tools Preferences Colors Classic Colors, plus a few other changes). Some time after this (and after the mouse wars with Protel NA), but before joining this forum, I began playing around with the layer drawing order, under Tools Preferences Display, and at some point in time I did in fact Hit the Default Button under that Dialogue, and yes, strange things did happen. Ok, now we are up to date with 2 exceptions. 1. The Super Wazoo 19 inch Dell Monitor I had at work there at OC used to have a brilliant white background that hurt my eyes, especially at high resolution where it had limited scan rates available which were not too compatible with the bright fluorescent lights in the large room that I had to share with many other people before we moved and I got my own large office with appropriate filters and grilles on the lights. As a result, I had to avoid white, and select several contrasting colors so that I could see and distinguish with my color visual limitations. 2. When I bought my own copy of Protel 99 SE / DXP, and installed it here at home where adjustable incandescent lighting and an IBM 19 inch Monitor, I never seemed to have the problems that I had with the Monitor at work, and low and behold, I just checked and found that after a year and a half, I still have the basic Delivered color scheme on my system here (not the Classic Colors). Ok, so that brings us up to the present. With all of that said, I have read all of the posts to this thread very carefully, and I am still lost as to the meaning of the following: Do NOT press this button in 99 SE !!! I believe that here we are speaking about the Default Button under the Layer Drawing Order Button on the Display Tab, and not the Default Color Button on the Colors Tab (at least that was what I was originally talking about). Pressing this button rewrites the configurations files back to Protel 98 and will permanently set your layer capabilities back to the same era. You will have to either re-install or copy a section from a good file to get them back. Not sure what all effect this has, but I do know that it will get rid of alot of mech layers. I do not understand just what is meant by that first sentence above here, but I think that it may mean a lot more than just changing the colors to the Classic Colors scheme as I did on my machine at Optical Crossing. Can someone elaborate on just what exactly we are talking about here. I know that at some time on my OC system, I appeared to have lost the ability to alter the color of the Connections (if I ever had that ability), and I even seem to have lost that ability on my home installation too, although I do not remember having ever hit the Default Button on this system. Ian, You are probably the best one to explain this all, and also clarify why I would need to do something with the data you have provided below, and how I can tell whether or not I need to do anything at all. One final caveat: If I actually did alter something on my OC system other than just the colors of my ADVPCB99SE.ini file, would this account for some of the bizarre crashes that I and some others have been having all of these years that are still otherwise unexplained? Thanks, JaMi - Original Message - From: Ian Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 2:05 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] How to change drawing order? On 08:44 AM 9/10/2003, Ian Wilson said: On 08:05 AM 9/10/2003, Frank Gilley
Re: [PEDA] How to change drawing order?
I forgot one additional thing: Did anyone else get a post to this thread with an attachment from [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? Me thinks it might just be afoul of good intentions . . . Possibly a virus? I have not opened it . . . JaMi * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] How to change drawing order?
On 06:21 AM 15/10/2003, JaMi Smith said: I know that at some time on my OC system, I appeared to have lost the ability to alter the color of the Connections (if I ever had that ability), and I even seem to have lost that ability on my home installation too, although I do not remember having ever hit the Default Button on this system. Ian, You are probably the best one to explain this all, and also clarify why I would need to do something with the data you have provided below, and how I can tell whether or not I need to do anything at all. Whew - all a bit long I had to scan quickly to the question; I did as I thought there may be some confusion over this. When you click on the Default button on the Drawing Order screen the system writes the new order into the ini file (see the stuff I wrote before). The problem is that it does not write correct information for the new mech layers (newly introduced in P99 or was it P99SE). Pressing the Default button causes loss of the new mech layers until you manually twiddle the ini file. Ian * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] How to change drawing order?
Ian Wilson wrote: On 11:50 AM 9/10/2003, Dennis Saputelli said: Shift-s is great if only it didn't turn off the rats nest! SP7 ? :) Ian did they fix this in DXP ? Dennis Saputelli Rats nest *is* visible while toggling single layer mode with Shift-S in DXP. That is one of the first improvements I heard of in DXP that sounds worth upgrading for * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] How to change drawing order?
The rats nest is still visible in DXP when you do Shift-S. Tony On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 18:50:26 -0700, Dennis Saputelli wrote: Shift-s is great if only it didn't turn off the rats nest! SP7 ? :) Ian did they fix this in DXP ? Dennis Saputelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shift-s is also helpful to view current layer only. Mr. Zhang Yangtian [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 09/10/2003 12:48:02 AM Please respond to Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: (bcc: Clive Broome/sdc) Subject: [PEDA] How to change drawing order? -- -- When I doing PCB design, the drawing order is fixed, eg. The track of TopOverlay layer will cover the objects on the Bottom layer. Now, for some reason, I want to change this order and want the track of bottom layer can cover objects of all other layers. How can I change the screen drawing order under PCB mode? Thank you very much! -- Dennis Saputelli = send only plain text please! - no HTML == __ _ Integrated Controls, Inc. www.integratedcontrolsinc.com 2851 21st Street tel: 415-647-0480 San Francisco, CA 94110 fax: 415-647-3003 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] How to change drawing order?
On 11:50 AM 9/10/2003, Dennis Saputelli said: Shift-s is great if only it didn't turn off the rats nest! SP7 ? :) Ian did they fix this in DXP ? Dennis Saputelli Rats nest *is* visible while toggling single layer mode with Shift-S in DXP. Ian * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] How to change drawing order?
You may also want to consider setting layers to transparent. I find this setting absolutely essential when working with multilayer designs. Steve Hendrix * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] How to change drawing order?
On 08:44 AM 9/10/2003, Ian Wilson said: On 08:05 AM 9/10/2003, Frank Gilley said: Jami and all... Once you are finished doing whatever it is that you want to do, and you want to set the display drawing order back to normal, just return to the same dialog box and use the Default button, and everything will be set back to normal. NO!! Do NOT press this button in 99 SE !!! Pressing this button rewrites the configurations files back to Protel 98 and will permanently set your layer capabilities back to the same era. You will have to either re-install or copy a section from a good file to get them back. Not sure what all effect this has, but I do know that it will get rid of alot of mech layers. It is easy enough to rewrite the relevant section of the appropriate ini file to get the layers back but it is certainly irritating. No need to re-install. I haven't got the details of the ini file and the setting to hand but it should be on the archive somewhere. Here are the details: Copy and paste the following entries over the existing entries in the ADVPCB99SE.ini file which is located in the Windows installation directory: LayerDrawingOrder0=74 LayerDrawingOrder1=33 LayerDrawingOrder2=34 LayerDrawingOrder3=75 LayerDrawingOrder4=0 LayerDrawingOrder5=1 LayerDrawingOrder6=2 LayerDrawingOrder7=3 LayerDrawingOrder8=4 LayerDrawingOrder9=5 LayerDrawingOrder10=6 LayerDrawingOrder11=7 LayerDrawingOrder12=8 LayerDrawingOrder13=9 LayerDrawingOrder14=10 LayerDrawingOrder15=11 LayerDrawingOrder16=12 LayerDrawingOrder17=13 LayerDrawingOrder18=14 LayerDrawingOrder19=15 LayerDrawingOrder20=16 LayerDrawingOrder21=17 LayerDrawingOrder22=18 LayerDrawingOrder23=19 LayerDrawingOrder24=20 LayerDrawingOrder25=21 LayerDrawingOrder26=22 LayerDrawingOrder27=23 LayerDrawingOrder28=24 LayerDrawingOrder29=25 LayerDrawingOrder30=26 LayerDrawingOrder31=27 LayerDrawingOrder32=28 LayerDrawingOrder33=29 LayerDrawingOrder34=30 LayerDrawingOrder35=31 LayerDrawingOrder36=32 LayerDrawingOrder37=35 LayerDrawingOrder38=36 LayerDrawingOrder39=37 LayerDrawingOrder40=38 LayerDrawingOrder41=39 LayerDrawingOrder42=40 LayerDrawingOrder43=41 LayerDrawingOrder44=42 LayerDrawingOrder45=43 LayerDrawingOrder46=44 LayerDrawingOrder47=45 LayerDrawingOrder48=46 LayerDrawingOrder49=47 LayerDrawingOrder50=48 LayerDrawingOrder51=49 LayerDrawingOrder52=50 LayerDrawingOrder53=51 LayerDrawingOrder54=52 LayerDrawingOrder55=53 LayerDrawingOrder56=54 LayerDrawingOrder57=55 LayerDrawingOrder58=56 LayerDrawingOrder59=57 LayerDrawingOrder60=58 LayerDrawingOrder61=59 LayerDrawingOrder62=60 LayerDrawingOrder63=61 LayerDrawingOrder64=62 LayerDrawingOrder65=63 LayerDrawingOrder66=64 LayerDrawingOrder67=65 LayerDrawingOrder68=66 LayerDrawingOrder69=67 LayerDrawingOrder70=68 LayerDrawingOrder71=69 LayerDrawingOrder72=70 LayerDrawingOrder73=71 LayerDrawingOrder74=72 LayerDrawingOrder75=73 LayerDrawingOrder76=79 LayerDrawingOrder77=76 LayerDrawingOrder78=76 LayerDrawingOrder79=76 LayerDrawingOrder80=76 LayerDrawingOrder81=76 LayerDrawingOrder82=76 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] How to change drawing order?
Hi, Tools Preferences Display Layer Drawing Order Regards Rolf Molitor Ing.Buero i2e Remscheid / Germany -Urspr 1ngliche Nachricht- Von: Mr. Zhang Yangtian [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: Protel?? 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 8. Oktober 2003 16:48 Betreff: [PEDA] How to change drawing order? When I doing PCB design, the drawing order is fixed, eg. The track of TopOverlay layer will cover the objects on the Bottom layer. Now, for some reason, I want to change this order and want the track of bottom layer can cover objects of all other layers. How can I change the screen drawing order under PCB mode? Thank you very much! * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] How to change drawing order?
right but!! don't hit the restore defaults button this is a known bug it will delete valid mech layers ds Rolf Molitor wrote: Hi, Tools Preferences Display Layer Drawing Order Regards Rolf Molitor Ing.Buero i2e Remscheid / Germany -Urspr 1ngliche Nachricht- Von: Mr. Zhang Yangtian [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: Protel?? 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 8. Oktober 2003 16:48 Betreff: [PEDA] How to change drawing order? When I doing PCB design, the drawing order is fixed, eg. The track of TopOverlay layer will cover the objects on the Bottom layer. Now, for some reason, I want to change this order and want the track of bottom layer can cover objects of all other layers. How can I change the screen drawing order under PCB mode? Thank you very much! -- Dennis Saputelli = send only plain text please! - no HTML == ___ Integrated Controls, Inc. www.integratedcontrolsinc.com 2851 21st Streettel: 415-647-0480 San Francisco, CA 94110 fax: 415-647-3003 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] How to change drawing order?
Zhang, In the PCB Editor, select Preferences under Tools in the Main Menu. Under the second tab, Display, you will see a button labeled Layer Drawing Order, which will bring up a dialog box that will allow you to change the order in which the layers are displayed. Just select the layer that you want to move, and use the Promote button to move it up in the display drawing order, or use the Demote button to move it down in the display drawing order, and then press Ok when you are finished This should allow you to change the order in which things are displayed, which I believe is what you are looking for. Once you are finished doing whatever it is that you want to do, and you want to set the display drawing order back to normal, just return to the same dialog box and use the Default button, and everything will be set back to normal. Hopefully this will answer your question. JaMi * * * * * * - Original Message - From: Mr. Zhang Yangtian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 7:48 AM Subject: [PEDA] How to change drawing order? When I doing PCB design, the drawing order is fixed, eg. The track of TopOverlay layer will cover the objects on the Bottom layer. Now, for some reason, I want to change this order and want the track of bottom layer can cover objects of all other layers. How can I change the screen drawing order under PCB mode? Thank you very much! * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] How to change drawing order?
Jami and all... Once you are finished doing whatever it is that you want to do, and you want to set the display drawing order back to normal, just return to the same dialog box and use the Default button, and everything will be set back to normal. NO!! Do NOT press this button in 99 SE !!! Pressing this button rewrites the configurations files back to Protel 98 and will permanently set your layer capabilities back to the same era. You will have to either re-install or copy a section from a good file to get them back. Not sure what all effect this has, but I do know that it will get rid of alot of mech layers. Frank At 02:18 PM 10/8/2003 -0700, you wrote: Zhang, In the PCB Editor, select Preferences under Tools in the Main Menu. Under the second tab, Display, you will see a button labeled Layer Drawing Order, which will bring up a dialog box that will allow you to change the order in which the layers are displayed. Just select the layer that you want to move, and use the Promote button to move it up in the display drawing order, or use the Demote button to move it down in the display drawing order, and then press Ok when you are finished This should allow you to change the order in which things are displayed, which I believe is what you are looking for. Once you are finished doing whatever it is that you want to do, and you want to set the display drawing order back to normal, just return to the same dialog box and use the Default button, and everything will be set back to normal. Hopefully this will answer your question. JaMi * * * * * * - Original Message - From: Mr. Zhang Yangtian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 7:48 AM Subject: [PEDA] How to change drawing order? When I doing PCB design, the drawing order is fixed, eg. The track of TopOverlay layer will cover the objects on the Bottom layer. Now, for some reason, I want to change this order and want the track of bottom layer can cover objects of all other layers. How can I change the screen drawing order under PCB mode? Thank you very much! Frank Gilley Dell-Star Technologies (918) 838-1973 Phone (918) 838-8814 Fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dellstar.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] How to change drawing order?
It should be mentioned that simply making the bottom layer the current layer will cause it to be drawn above the other layers Just clicking on the Bottom layer tab at the bottom of the screen will do it. Then, if you want to see the Bottom Overlay, just click on that tab. Generally, you can control the drawing order with the tabs. Whatever tab is chosen, that layer is rewritten. However, when the screen is redrawn, say by zooming out, a certain default sequence will recur. If the Bottom Layer is the current layer, nevertheless the Bottom Overlay will be written over it. If you want to push the Overlay down, clicking the Bottom layer doesn't do it. But if you click on Bottom Overlay -- which will make no visible change -- and *then* on Bottom layer, the Bottom layer will be written on top. The behavior is actually pretty much what we want. Normally the Overlays don't conceal what is underneath enough to be a problem, and normally we might want to see the information on the Overlays, such as reference designator. So you don't need to use the Layer Drawing Order tool, and good thing that is, what with the bug. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] How to change drawing order?
On 08:05 AM 9/10/2003, Frank Gilley said: Jami and all... Once you are finished doing whatever it is that you want to do, and you want to set the display drawing order back to normal, just return to the same dialog box and use the Default button, and everything will be set back to normal. NO!! Do NOT press this button in 99 SE !!! Pressing this button rewrites the configurations files back to Protel 98 and will permanently set your layer capabilities back to the same era. You will have to either re-install or copy a section from a good file to get them back. Not sure what all effect this has, but I do know that it will get rid of alot of mech layers. It is easy enough to rewrite the relevant section of the appropriate ini file to get the layers back but it is certainly irritating. No need to re-install. I haven't got the details of the ini file and the setting to hand but it should be on the archive somewhere. Certainly it is worth **not** using the Default button at all. Ian * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] How to change drawing order?
Shift-s is also helpful to view current layer only. Mr. Zhang Yangtian [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 09/10/2003 12:48:02 AM Please respond to Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Clive Broome/sdc) Subject: [PEDA] How to change drawing order? When I doing PCB design, the drawing order is fixed, eg. The track of TopOverlay layer will cover the objects on the Bottom layer. Now, for some reason, I want to change this order and want the track of bottom layer can cover objects of all other layers. How can I change the screen drawing order under PCB mode? Thank you very much!
Re: [PEDA] How to change drawing order?
and don't forget the very useful ALT-END key redraws current the layer as topmost very useful at times, esp for seeing traces under pads will also put the copper on top of the silkscreen it goes away though with the next pan or redraw, which is probably as it should be i concur that messing with the Layer Drawing Order tool is more trouble than it is worth usually (bug aside) and no, as Ian says, you don't need to reinstall if you push the dreaded button but i can't exactly remember the drill either just route around in your backups of the INI and RCS file and it should become apparent after some wasted moments Dennis Saputelli Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: It should be mentioned that simply making the bottom layer the current layer will cause it to be drawn above the other layers Just clicking on the Bottom layer tab at the bottom of the screen will do it. Then, if you want to see the Bottom Overlay, just click on that tab. Generally, you can control the drawing order with the tabs. Whatever tab is chosen, that layer is rewritten. However, when the screen is redrawn, say by zooming out, a certain default sequence will recur. If the Bottom Layer is the current layer, nevertheless the Bottom Overlay will be written over it. If you want to push the Overlay down, clicking the Bottom layer doesn't do it. But if you click on Bottom Overlay -- which will make no visible change -- and *then* on Bottom layer, the Bottom layer will be written on top. The behavior is actually pretty much what we want. Normally the Overlays don't conceal what is underneath enough to be a problem, and normally we might want to see the information on the Overlays, such as reference designator. So you don't need to use the Layer Drawing Order tool, and good thing that is, what with the bug. -- Dennis Saputelli = send only plain text please! - no HTML == ___ Integrated Controls, Inc. www.integratedcontrolsinc.com 2851 21st Streettel: 415-647-0480 San Francisco, CA 94110 fax: 415-647-3003 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] How to change drawing order?
Shift-s is great if only it didn't turn off the rats nest! SP7 ? :) Ian did they fix this in DXP ? Dennis Saputelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shift-s is also helpful to view current layer only. Mr. Zhang Yangtian [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 09/10/2003 12:48:02 AM Please respond to Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Clive Broome/sdc) Subject: [PEDA] How to change drawing order? When I doing PCB design, the drawing order is fixed, eg. The track of TopOverlay layer will cover the objects on the Bottom layer. Now, for some reason, I want to change this order and want the track of bottom layer can cover objects of all other layers. How can I change the screen drawing order under PCB mode? Thank you very much! -- Dennis Saputelli = send only plain text please! - no HTML == ___ Integrated Controls, Inc. www.integratedcontrolsinc.com 2851 21st Streettel: 415-647-0480 San Francisco, CA 94110 fax: 415-647-3003 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
