Hi Andrew,
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 18:07, Andrew Francis andrewfr_...@yahoo.com wrote:
So returning to the example, a programme more in the spirit of what you are
doing is:
No, you are still missing my point. The goal is to work on existing
stackless programs, not to write custom programs
Hi Andrew,
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 00:44, Andrew Francis andrewfr_...@yahoo.com wrote:
I am looking at stm_descriptor_init(). Right now makes a call to
pthread_self(). In a potential Stackless prototype, I would want it to get
the current tasklet instead.
I don't understand why at all, sorry.
Hi Bengt,
I feel like I have actually already explained over and over again what
I am doing. But it's true that such communication has been going on
on various channels. So, here is the documentation I've got so far:
https://bitbucket.org/pypy/pypy/raw/stm-gc/lib_pypy/transaction.py
In
Hi Andrew,
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 19:43, Andrew Francis andrewfr_...@yahoo.com wrote:
I am trying to understand enough to get into a position to attempt an
integration.
I believe you are trying to approach the problem from the bottom-most
level up --- which is a fine way to approach problems;
Re-Hi,
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 21:37, Armin Rigo ar...@tunes.org wrote:
You have to make sure that all tasklet.switch()es internally go back
to the main program, and not directly to another tasklet.
Ah, sorry, I confused the stackless interface. You don't switch() to
tasklets, but instead
Hi Amaury,
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:02, Amaury Forgeot d'Arc amaur...@gmail.com wrote:
But is it desirable? The first call to PyUnicode_AsUnicode will allocate and
copy the unicode buffer,
but subsequent calls will quickly return the same address.
Indeed, it's a bit unclear. If I may
Hi Carl Friedrich,
Can you have a look at speed.python.org? It seems that merging the
kwargsdict-strategy branch had mostly the effect of making
twisted_iteration slower :-(
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Hi,
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 01:35, s...@pobox.com wrote:
Maciej I would really like this sort of changes to come with it's own
Maciej tests (ones that check what was compiled preferably).
What might such tests look like?
It is an issue: unit-testing this kind of detail is a bit hard,
Hi all,
Following the blog post about STM, I would like to sollicitate your
attention to come up with some better syntax for the 'transaction'
module.
* First question: 'transaction'. The name is kind of bogus, because
it implies that it must be based on transactional memory. Such a name
Hi Laura,
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 12:03, Laura Creighton l...@openend.se wrote:
So how about 'schedule'?
Might work :-) How about, if we decide to go for a class, the name of
the class? Is it 'schedule.Runner()', 'schedule.Scheduler()', ...? A
concrete instance of this class is no longer
Hi Laura,
A note on my two previous messages: in the first one I argued about
@breakable, while the second one I suggested to use threads and with
atomic. The relationship between the two is: in the first model you
would put @breakable on some outer functions until it calls things
that are
Hi Fijal,
Or maybe, keeping in touch with concurrent.futures from Python 3.2,
should we make it nonconcurrent.schedule...? :-)
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Maciej Fijalkowski fij...@gmail.com wrote:
In CPython they introduced concurrent.* namespace. How about we reuse it, by
say
Hi Laura,
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Laura Creighton l...@openend.se wrote:
This is an odd way to think. Sort of like how the Copenhagen explanation
for quantum mechanics implies that classical concepts can be used to describe
quantum phenomenon. You try, and try, and try to think that
Hi,
On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 11:12 PM, xancorreu xancor...@gmail.com wrote:
By the other hand, saying with other words: with scripts appeared in alioth,
pypy is faster?
Probably a bit, but does it matter? Consider a completely un-pythonic
program that no-one would ever write this way: is the
Hi Laura, hi Eric,
On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Laura Creighton l...@openend.se wrote:
I think a large part of this problem is that CPython implementors are
completely unaware of what set of functions PyPy cannot implement.
Indeed. From that point of view it would make sense if CPython
Hi Xan,
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 3:04 PM, xancorreu xancor...@gmail.com wrote:
The meta-question is: what is the fastest language with comfortable syntax
and expressions ;-)
Then stop looking at this particular benchmark site :-) The Python
programs you see there are not in the slightest way
Hi Wim,
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 8:16 AM, wlavrij...@lbl.gov wrote:
Quick question - if it's mature, why not merge it to default? I presume it
should be turned off, since there is a sizeable dependency, but still
having it in default can be good.
I have a standalone version of Reflex now and
Hi all,
With Maciej showing up, we will have just in time a mini-sprint next
week in Leysin: 14-19th of May. Anyone is welcome to show up, from a
day to a week, to talk or work on anything preferrably vaguely
PyPy-related.
As usual the topics are open, but we were thinking at least to
implement
Hi all,
Here is the very first Python 2.7 interpreter to run existing
multithreaded programs on multiple cores. Linux 32 bits. It is
horribly slow right now, so consider this as nothing more than a demo
:-)
http://wyvern.cs.uni-duesseldorf.de/~arigo/pypy-c-r54960-stm.tar.bz2
Hi Andrew,
Please look at the latest documentation:
https://bitbucket.org/pypy/pypy/raw/stm-thread/pypy/doc/stm.rst
You should be able to use such a thread.atomic in stackless.py. You
need to create N threads and run the tasklets in these threads. As
long as each tasklet's user code is
Re-hi,
I updated my fork of CPython 3.x to include a very similar
functionality, _thread.atomic_enter() and _thread.atomic_exit(). (Of
course without any multicore capabilities, but it gives you the
atomicity.) A very small diff overall.
http://bitbucket.org/arigo/cpython-withatomic
A
Hi again,
An update of pypy-stm. The previous one was not working properly with
any Python function call --- on any example of any non-trivial size,
it would not actually run on multiple cores. This one works better.
http://wyvern.cs.uni-duesseldorf.de/~arigo/pypy-c-r55013-stm.tar.bz2
I also
Hi Benjamin,
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 4:08 AM, Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org wrote:
As some of you may know, this past year I wrote a chapter about PyPy
for Architecture of Open Source Applications Volume 2.
Great, congratulation :-)
It has brought to my attention that my
Hi Yury,
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Yury Selivanov yselivanov...@gmail.com wrote:
While I don't like some design quirks of Cython, I think that it's far
better than any ffi or ctypes-like solution. Essentially, it's an ffi
merged with the language, not a separate module. And that's a
Hi Jean-Paul,
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 9:22 PM, exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote:
I don't think it's true that using strings instead of types (or other rich
objects) simplifies anything. Quite the opposite, it takes all of the
complexity which must exist and throws a huge wall up to prevent
Hi Stefan,
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 7:01 AM, Stefan Behnel stefan...@behnel.de wrote:
I'm with Jean-Paul here.
...for a reason that might be unrelated to Jean-Paul's original
complain: it's not like Cython gives first-class object manipulation
on the result of parsing its .pyx files... well,
Hi Amaury,
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Amaury Forgeot d'Arc
amaur...@gmail.com wrote:
Another incarnation of SWIG?
...I suppose you can say so a priori. The difference is that we won't
try to perform conversions for the user. Instead he gets his
instances of C types as real Python
Hi,
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Eleytherios Stamatogiannakis
est...@gmail.com wrote:
Is there in the plans a Jit friendly callback mechanism (from C to pypy) for
the new API?
It is far too early to have such plans, but I guess so.
Armin
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We started working on it a few days ago and it's already progressed well:
http://github.com/arigo/ffi
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Hi Bookaa,
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 6:07 AM, bookaa rors...@gmail.com wrote:
! includes = ['stdlib.h', 'stdio.h', 'sys/types.h', 'stdint.h']
The MSVC compiler before 2010 doesn't provide a 'stdint.h', so this
change would break it. You need to come up with a more complicated
solution.
Hi Timothy,
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Timothy Baldridge tbaldri...@gmail.com wrote:
So my question is, how easy/hard would it be to somehow get a
@purefunction decorator in Python instead of just RPython? For that
matter, having __immutable_fields__ would also be nice, but that may
be
Hi all,
Wyvern, which was the machine serving a few PyPy-related services ---
most notably the buildmaster and the nightly builds at
buildbot.pypy.org --- more or less died a few days ago. It was after
a long life: we had the server around 2005, and now the particular
small piece that broke down
Hi Timothy,
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Timothy Baldridge
tbaldri...@gmail.com wrote:
For something like this, am I going to see much of a performance boost
by dropping to the interpreter level from the dispatch between these
three sub-function types?
I can't answer this question,
Hi Laura,
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 6:29 AM, Laura Creighton l...@openend.se wrote:
tons of things that I agree with more or less wholesale, though I think
that there is a slightly larger market for Cython in the immediate
future ...
Sure, I never meant to give any market size estimate.
Hi Robert,
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Robert Zaremba robert.zare...@zoho.com wrote:
Whats the problem with cppyy?
Why don't extend it rather than build new solution based on pycparser?
Once again the design goals are different. Note that the first mail
in this thread was 15 days ago.
Hi Alex,
On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Alex Pyattaev alex.pyatt...@gmail.com wrote:
So, when would users be able to test it? I'd like to compare the overhead
with ctypes and cppyy for instance.
The first version is ready for testing at https://github.com/arigo/ffi
. Note that the goal is
Hi Wim,
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 1:53 AM, wlavrij...@lbl.gov wrote:
Overall, I'm happy enough with the result (I'm going to need handling of
PyObject*'s later for my own nefarious purposes).
Maybe we can motivate you to look for and fix inefficiencies in
cpyext :-) As far as I know it's still
Hi Wim,
On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 9:10 AM, wlavrij...@lbl.gov wrote:
If I understand correctly what you describe above, then perhaps giving
the PyPyObject by pointer as payload to the PyObject could help, too.
Yes: so far, most PyObjects are small structures containing just the
refcount and the
Hi Uwe,
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Uwe F. Mayer uwe_f_ma...@yahoo.com wrote:
3 [main] pypy-c 11788 fixup_mmaps_after_fork: ReadProcessMemory failed
for MAP_PRIVATE address 0xB001, Win32 error 998
Yes, that's one of the mmap addresses used by the JIT, if available.
More to the
Hi Roberto,
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Roberto De Ioris robe...@unbit.it wrote:
Ok, i am pretty satisfied with the current code (i have made a pull request).
Trying to figure out what is the status of the pending pull requests,
I came across:
Hi Roberto,
On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Roberto De Ioris robe...@unbit.it wrote:
Hi Armin, the whole newer code is under cpyext. Last time i checked (a
week ago) the asmgcc failure was still there, so i think it is better to
force shadowstack when --shared is specified.
Ok, done. And I
Hi Jasper,
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 12:39 AM, Jasper Schulz jas...@dqi06.de wrote:
So, I'm really looking forward to meet you and get my brain crushed :-).
Welcome :-)
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Hi,
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Amaury Forgeot d'Arc
amaur...@gmail.com wrote:
I think memory allocated for JIT must be marked with PROT_EXEC (it contains
machine code),
so malloc() is not an option.
Exactly. On Linux it would work, because you can use mprotect() to
make even
Hi David,
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 11:58 AM, David Naylor naylor.b.da...@gmail.com wrote:
[translation:ERROR] .. (pypy.rlib.jit:557)set_param__None_enable_opts
Nowadays, you cannot use the JIT with the CLI backend.
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Hi Fijal,
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Maciej Fijalkowski fij...@gmail.com wrote:
That probably does not mean that someone somewhere is not calling set_param,
like from command line parsing.
It does mean it. At RPython level the only callers of
rlib.jit.set_param() are all from
Hi David,
On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 4:41 PM, David Naylor naylor.b.da...@gmail.com wrote:
Oh, okay. I don't have access to the latest sources. I normally work of the
released sources. But thanks for looking at this.
It's going to take us a loong time to fix CLI translation if the
process
Hi Konstantin,
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Костя Лопухин kostia.lopu...@gmail.com wrote:
May I try? :)
Sure :-) A first quick remark: you should add a test in pypy's own
tests, in pypy/objspace/std/test/test_newformat.py. Then run it with
python pytest.py pypy/obj.../test_newformat.py.
Hi all,
Announcing the release 0.1 of CFFI, the new Python interface to call C
libraries done (mostly) by Maciek and myself:
http://morepypy.blogspot.ch/2012/06/release-01-of-cffi.html
A bientôt,
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Hi Léonard,
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Léonard de Haro leonard.de.h...@ens.fr wrote:
- What is the stack overflow?
It's just what it says: a stack overflow. RPython has no CPS or
tail-recursion support, so it doesn't support arbitrary heap-limited
recursion. Have a look at the Prolog
Hi David,
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 1:05 PM, David Naylor naylor.b.da...@gmail.com wrote:
And attached is a patch for fixing (2), which works around (1).
Your patch modifies the py lib, more precisely py/_path. The py lib
is nowadays a separate project. You should try to discuss it and
submit
Hi Stian,
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:59 AM, Stian Andreassen
pullrequests-nore...@bitbucket.org wrote:
https://bitbucket.org/pypy/pypy/pull-request/72/rbigintpy-improvements
Title: rbigint.py improvements
I suppose this needs discussion on pypy-dev. It is great, but the
major issue is that it
Hi Marcus,
PyPy contains no logic to create or search for __pycache__. A grep
tells me that neither does CPython 2.7. You are probably confused by
py.test creating them.
A bientôt,
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Hi Stefano,
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Stefano Rivera stef...@rivera.za.net wrote:
And I do my best to minimize that. In this case, I thought it was worth
the delta.
My point of view is that this goes in the same pack of
incompatibilities introduced by some distributions as splitting the
Hi Roger,
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 7:41 AM, Roger Flores aide...@yahoo.com wrote:
Can someone else at least confirm this?
Yes, I can reproduce it easily running in a 32-bit chroot on a machine
with more than 4GB of RAM.
The problem is the same, and is still not solved: we run out of memory
when
Re-hi,
I tried to debug it more precisely, and it seems that the problem is
even more basic than I thought. It is very hard to solve in general.
The issue is that when we are really out of memory, then *every*
single allocation is going to fail. The difference with CPython is
that in the same
Hi Harald,
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Massa, Harald Armin c...@ghum.de wrote:
outside of programming there is the concept of having a secret backup
(nest egg). Would'nt it be a solution to preallocate some bytes on
startup for really, really bad times?
It might help in general, but not
Hi Ronny,
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Ronny Pfannschmidt
ronny.pfannschm...@gmx.de wrote:
However in some cases (like the example) the memory error is caused by
accumulating more and more smaller objects,
in which case the memory one would use for a Stack-trace is used up and the
extra
Hi Eli, hi Roger,
Both of your solutions might work.
Roger, you overlook a problem in this pseudo-code:
print 'MemoryError'
print stack_trace() # of app
We can't suddenly print the stack trace of the application from inside
the GC. In order to have a regular stack
Hi Tim,
An additional remark: if you're looking for a tool that is able to
extract a complete call graph from a random Python program, then it's
impossible. Only approximations can be done, like e.g. done in
pylint, I believe.
Such tools are pointless in PyPy but could be useful in other
Hi Fijal,
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Maciej Fijalkowski fij...@gmail.com wrote:
I would like to come, but I'll absolutely not make commitments right
now, 9 months in advance. Noone will pay me to do that and I'm
incapable of saying if flying halfway across the world from South
Africa in
Hi,
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 11:06 PM, Timothy Baldridge
tbaldri...@gmail.com wrote:
jitdriver.jit_merge_point(ip = self._ip,
func = self._call_stack[-1],
args = self._arg_stack[-1],
Hi Fijal,
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Maciej Fijalkowski fij...@gmail.com wrote:
Anyone has any idea how to fix/disable them?
Obviously you can disable them by saying if sys.platform = 'darwin':
py.test.skip('XXX') a few lines before the crash, but is that really
your question?
Armin
Hi Michal,
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:20 PM, Michal Bendowski mic...@bendowski.pl wrote:
3. If my code from jvm-improvements looks good I would love to get it merged
into default, to close one chapter of work (a working rjvm module) and start
working on whatever's next. Can someone take a look?
Hi,
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Michal Bendowski mic...@bendowski.pl wrote:
I don't think I introduced any Java 6 specific code. Nevertheless Java
6 will be EOL'd soon as well (Scala is dropping Java 6 support in the
next release for example) so I agree that requiring at least Java 6
Hi,
A quick note:
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Maciej Fijalkowski fij...@gmail.com wrote:
(not sure why your translation take so long)
Because of swapping: translating on a 64-bit Mac requires 5-6 GB of RAM ideally.
A bientôt,
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Hi Timothy,
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Timothy Baldridge tbaldri...@gmail.com wrote:
error C2036: 'void *' : unknown size
Fixed yesterday evening in 9e9b39337354. Indeed,
http://buildbot.pypy.org/nightly/trunk/ shows that Win32 has
successfully built this night.
A bientôt,
Armin.
Hi,
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Welch, Matt matt.we...@compuware.com wrote:
Any help would be appreciated. Do I need a different environment? Is it not
MinGW/Msys friendly?
Sorry, at least I don't know MinGW/Msys at all. The PyPy translation
toolchain is tested on Linux, OS/X, and
Hi David,
From your mail, 904 seems to be a typeid. It cannot be a variable
computed as n + 100 * i + ..., because it appears directly in
assembler as li r3, 904. It seems the problem is more subtle than
that, reusing bogus memory and falling over a 904 that is a typeid
when reading 16(r3),
Hi Timothy,
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Timothy Baldridge tbaldri...@gmail.com wrote:
...
[translation:ERROR] assert graph not in self.fixed_graphs
[translation:ERROR] AssertionError
For this case, we'd need to see the complete traceback. It's a
situation of finding out late the
Hi Timothy,
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Timothy Baldridge tbaldri...@gmail.com wrote:
[translation:ERROR] llvalue = r_value.convert_const(dictvalue)
[translation:ERROR]File /home/tim/pypy/pypy/rpython/rclass.py, line
322, in convert_const
[translation:ERROR] classdef =
Hi all,
For reference, we found the answer on IRC:
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 9:01 PM, David Edelsohn dje@gmail.com wrote:
; cond_call_gc_wb
0xfffb74e0e10: lbz r0,3(r30)
0xfffb74e0e14: andi. r0,r0,1
0xfffb74e0e18: beq 0xfffb74e0e3c
0xfffb74e0e1c:
Hi Mark,
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 3:09 PM, mark florisson
markflorisso...@gmail.com wrote:
For this year's summer of code, and for my master dissertation, we
created a project to compile array expressions efficiently (Dag was my
mentor, CCed), which can be found here:
Hi Stefan,
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Stefan Behnel stefan...@behnel.de wrote:
Ok, so where would this have to be done? Is there a way to implement it
generically in that ubiquitous space.wrap() kind of call (whatever that
does internally), or would it have to be done explicitly
Hi Stefan,
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Stefan Behnel stefan...@behnel.de wrote:
This may not even be that hard to do, but it's unlikely that I'll give this
a try myself. The turn-over times of building PyPy for an hour or so on a
remote machine (RAM!) for most non-trivial changes are
Hi,
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Armin Rigo ar...@tunes.org wrote:
This is a blocker, and one that the plan towards CFFI should
completely fix.
A quick but successful attempt can be found in cffi/demo/{api,pyobj}.py.
api.py is a bit of a hack but lets you declare functions
Hi Wiktor,
On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Wiktor Mizdal wiktor8...@o2.pl wrote:
will STM can help implement concurrent garbage collector?
No, that's the wrong way around. A concurrent GC might be needed at
some point in order to help STM. But you don't want to write a GC
*using* the STM
Hi Timothy,
On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Timothy Baldridge tbaldri...@gmail.com wrote:
The question is: when is the GC
free to free data passed into a function's arguments. Will that function
hold on to all data passed in through arguments until the execution of the
function terminates? If
Hi Haael,
Here is again a high-level overview. Although we use the term
backend for both, there are two completely unrelated components: the
JIT backends and the translation backends.
The translation backends are part of the static translation of a PyPy
(with or without the JIT) to C code. The
Hi Carl Friedrich,
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Carl Friedrich Bolz cfb...@gmx.de wrote:
2. More fundamentally (and this is where I think you have missed a detail
about the JIT so far) the JIT ist trace-based. The JIT backends cannot deal
with arbitrary control flow, only with linear
Hi Bookaa,
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:46 AM, bookaa rors...@gmail.com wrote:
...
I suggest this instruction should be add to PyPy doc: MinGW32 support
Sorry for the delay. As you noticed, generally our interest in
mingw32 is close to zero, with Visual Studio taking up all of our
(already very
Hi Andreas,
On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Andreas Pedersen
andreasdamgaardpeder...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't currently have an
overview of the code, so I can't see how far you are and what subproblems
you are tackling. Any help on finding a good subject would be appreciated.
Someone else is
Hi Ronny,
On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Ronny Pfannschmidt
ronny.pfannschm...@gmx.de wrote:
after my thesis i'll be experimenting with a relaxed csp-ish model
based on python native generator based continuations as well as
the new continulet-jit-3 based greenlets.
my basic assumption is
Hi Bengt,
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Bengt Richter b...@oz.net wrote:
Just a triggered thought: I am wondering if Conway's Game of Life
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway%27s_Game_of_Life
might be be an interesting/fun basis for experiments and maybe a benchmark
for STM use in the
Hi Stefan,
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 7:41 AM, Stefan Behnel stefan...@behnel.de wrote:
it crashes in line 606 of obmalloc.c, which reads as follows:
583block *bp;
[...]
604 bp = pool-freeblock;
605 assert(bp != NULL);
606 if ((pool-freeblock =
Hi Ronan,
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Ronan Lamy ronan.l...@gmail.com wrote:
I think that the changes should go deeper. I see model.py and
operation.py as defining the flowgraph-based intermediate representation
on which the rest of the tool chain operates. (...)
I believe you're putting
Hi,
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Sasikanth Eda sasikanth@gmail.com wrote:
1. Has PyPy optimized / reduced the GIL limitation ?
Not so far: PyPy has a GIL, similar to CPython. (Note that I'm
answering with CPython here to make it clearer; Python means the
language which both CPython
Hi,
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Phyo Arkar phyo.arkarl...@gmail.com wrote:
Jython is wayyy much slower than CPython in many cases. I can't even find
its use.
If your problem is hard to divide in multiple processes but easy to
divide in multiple threads, and if you have a machine with
Hi Eleytherios,
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Eleytherios Stamatogiannakis
est...@gmail.com wrote:
- From what i understand, right now when a python function is called through
a callback, the JIT compiler does not notice it, so it doesn't JIT the
function at all. So is it possible to specify
Hi Matti, hi all,
On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Matti Picus matti.pi...@gmail.com wrote:
Are there anymore failing win32 tests for cffi, or is cffi fully supported
for windows now?
There are no failure left from test_c, and running (manually) the full
test suite from cffi/testing mostly
Hi Anatoly,
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 2:38 AM, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com wrote:
This page - http://doc.pypy.org/en/latest/translation.html - links to
http://doc.pypy.org/en/latest/image/translation.pdf which is 404.
Fixed, thanks. (Unsure what's the point of this pdf, as it's just
Hi,
On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Joe Hillenbrand joehil...@gmail.com wrote:
(...)
response=response, request=request, spider=spider)
(...)
return receiver(*arguments, **named)
exceptions.TypeError: response_received() got 4 unexpected keyword
arguments
No real clue,
Hi,
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Maciej Fijalkowski fij...@gmail.com wrote:
The problem, *right now* is that it's a proof of concept that requires
some work to be finished and/or to use JIT and be fast. I won't do it,
also because I have other Open Source commitments at hand.
Same here.
Hi,
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Maciej Fijalkowski fij...@gmail.com wrote:
So let's wait for a group decision.
Right now, we have extra servers sitting around not doing much. I'm
for moving all three services there. Fijal and me have access, and
I'm sure anyone else that needs it would
Hi Carl Friedrich,
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Carl Friedrich Bolz cfb...@gmx.de wrote:
I've been wondering whether the recipe that Raymond Hettinger posted
would also solve PyPy's performance problems with making huge
dictionaries:
Yes, we've been wondering the same thing on IRC :-)
Hi,
On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Maciej Fijalkowski fij...@gmail.com wrote:
And ASPW does the same right? I understand the general need for UTF8,
I just didn't find it in this particular query.
Fwiw, I wonder again if we couldn't have all our unicode strings
internally be UTF8 instead of
Hi,
On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Maciej Fijalkowski fij...@gmail.com wrote:
Some sort of string strategies? like we know it's ascii or so as well?
Something like that, but that strategy would be the only one needed.
We don't need ascii-only nor two-bytes-only strategies (nor, of
course,
Hi Bengt,
On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Bengt Richter b...@oz.net wrote:
I wonder whether something could be gained by having an alternative
internal unicode representation in the form of latin1 8-bit byte strings.
This has been already implemented in CPython 3.x, based on earlier
Hi Maciej,
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Maciej Fijalkowski fij...@gmail.com wrote:
If you have a dictionary, then the pypy object does not keep the cpy
object alive (or the dictionary keeps both of them alive or some other
stuff).
Obviouly it should be a dictionary with weak keys. The
Hi all,
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Matti Picus matti.pi...@gmail.com wrote:
Could someone with superpowers please replace the package at
https://bitbucket.org/pypy/pypy/downloads/pypy-2.0-beta1-win32.zip
and fix the md5 checksum at http://www.pypy.org/download.html ?
Done. Thanks for
Hi Zhoucan.
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 8:15 AM, 周灿 zhoucan1...@gmail.com wrote:
But i feel puzzled pypy sandbox is not compatible with all the standard
libs(such as threading), since pypy does not allow interperter to load
native C modules.
There is some confusion here. The regular PyPy (no
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