Re: [python-committers] MSDN Subscriptions/Renewals

Antoine Pitrou wrote: Le 14/11/2014 03:11, Nick Coghlan a écrit : Oh, that reminds me - we should mention the availability of Visual Studio Community edition on python-dev, and likely update the developers guide to recommend it to Windows based contributors. I'll write

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] Do we need to sign Windows files with GnuPG?

-committers] [Python-Dev] Do we need to sign Windows files with GnuPG? On 03.04.2015 19:35, Steve Dower wrote: My Windows development days are firmly behind me. So I don't really have an opinion here. So I put it to you, Windows Python developers: do you care about GnuPG signatures on Windows

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] Do we need to sign Windows files with GnuPG?

/are checking GPG signatures for Windows packages downstream. http://www.scipy.org/install.html On Apr 3, 2015 5:38 PM, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.commailto:m...@egenix.com wrote: On 04.04.2015 00:14, Steve Dower wrote: The thing is, that's exactly the same goodness as Authenticode gives, except

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] Do we need to sign Windows files with GnuPG?

with GnuPG? On 4 April 2015 at 11:14, Steve Dower steve.do...@microsoft.com wrote: The thing is, that's exactly the same goodness as Authenticode gives, except everyone gets that for free and meanwhile you're the only one who has admitted to using GPG on Windows :) Basically, what I want to hear

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] Do we need to sign Windows files with GnuPG?

: On 04.04.2015 00:14, Steve Dower wrote: The thing is, that's exactly the same goodness as Authenticode gives, except everyone gets that for free and meanwhile you're the only one who has admitted to using GPG on Windows :) Basically, what I want to hear is that GPG sigs provide significantly better

Re: [python-committers] Can we clean up the buildbots please?

The Windows 7 buildbots are failing on test_asdl_parser, but I have no idea why – the test works for me just fine. Yury and Benjamin made the most recent changes to Python.asdl, but I have no idea what effect they would have here, or why it’s Windows only. The WS2K3 machine needs a reboot – I

Re: [python-committers] Can we clean up the buildbots please?

2015http://conf.pydata.org/seattle2015/? Hosted by Microsoft on our Redmond campus, July 24-26 From: Larry Hastings [mailto:la...@midwinter.com] On Behalf Of Larry Hastings Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 1530 To: Steve Dower; Python Dev; python-committers Cc: Yury Selivanov; Benjamin Peterson Subject

[python-committers] [low-pri] Changing my email address

Hi all Just a heads-up that I'll be switching to an alternate email address for all of my Python communications, due to what I'm sure are very sensible corporate security policies that nonetheless corrupt code snippets and URLs in my incoming email. I will henceforth be known as

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.4.5 and Python 3.5.2 are now available

On 26Jun2016 1932, Larry Hastings wrote: https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-352/ ... /p.s. There appears to be a small oops with the Windows installers for 3.5.2--uploaded to the wrong directory or something. They'll be available soon, honest! That oops is now fixed, but I wanted

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.4.5 andPython 3.5.2 are now available

[python-committers] [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.4.5 andPython 3.5.2 are now available On Mon, 27 Jun 2016 08:25:40 -0700, Steve Dower <steve.do...@python.org> wrote: > On 26Jun2016 1932, Larry Hastings wrote: > > https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-352/ >

Re: [python-committers] New Authenticode certificate

On 09Feb2016 1030, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: On 09.02.2016 18:41, Jeff Hardy wrote: On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 12:34 PM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: To everyone: We now have a PSF code signing certificate. I have sent the certificate to Steve for use in the Windows installers. If other

[python-committers] New Authenticode certificate

(I forget exactly who to contact about the certificate, so I'm going slightly more broad.) The PSF's certificate we use to sign binaries and the installer for Windows is a SHA-1 certificate, which has been deprecated as of the start of the year: http://aka.ms/sha1 Already Windows may warn

Re: [python-committers] Idea: listing commercial prioritisation options as a new section in the developer guide?

On 20Sep2015 0229, Nick Coghlan wrote: I've suggested 5 draft categories based on my personal knowledge of what some of the other core developers do for a living: * Consultants and Freelance Developers * Software Development Education & Training * Commercial Python Redistributors * Other

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.4.5 and Python 3.5.2 are now available

On 27Jun2016 1616, Larry Hastings wrote: I've added a note. * Windows users: Some virus scanners (most notably "Microsoft Security Essentials") are flagging "Lib/distutils/command/wininst-14.0.exe" as malware. This is a "false positive": the file does not contain any malware. We

Re: [python-committers] 3.6 branch now open only for 3.6.0 release critical fixes and doc updates!

On 22Nov2016 1150, R. David Murray wrote: Being who we are (precisionist programmers), the inconsistency between "beta release cuts off features" and "last beta before RC cuts off non-release-critical fixes" does produce some cognitive dissonance. I've seen the RC described as "the first beta

Re: [python-committers] Signups for 2017 Python Language Summit are nowopen

I registered, and *then* thought of the session I'd like to give. How do you want us to fix this situation? Direct [BL]arry email? Register again? Top-posted from my Windows Phone -Original Message- From: "Barry Warsaw" Sent: ‎3/‎5/‎2017 14:31 To:

Re: [python-committers] mention-bot is dead, long live the (misnamed) CODEOWNERS file!

Should we seed the teams from the experts list? I have no strong opinion about core vs non-core dev, but I think part of the point of the distinction is reflected here. Why would we notify someone about every PR in an area if we don’t want them to be committers? Top-posted from my Windows

Re: [python-committers] mention-bot is dead, long live the (misnamed) CODEOWNERS file!

On 02Aug2017 2001, Terry Reedy wrote: On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 2:47 PM, Steve Dower <steve.do...@python.org <mailto:steve.do...@python.org>> wrote: I have no strong opinion about core vs non-core dev, but I think part of the point of the distinction is reflected here.

Re: [python-committers] Flood of Github review mails?

We created a Windows team on github and signed it up for notifications of changes to PC, PCBuild and the installer folders. If the notifications are for files in those folders, that’ll be it. (Though I haven’t noticed any similar increase, so it may be something else.) Feel free to remove

Re: [python-committers] Proposing Carol Willing to become a core developer

On 23May2017 1115, Brett Cannon wrote: While at the PyCon US sprints the idea came up of offering Carol Willing developer privileges. Everyone at the table -- about 6 of us -- liked the idea and Carol also said she would happy to become a core dev, so I'm officially putting her forward for

Re: [python-committers] Security: please enable 2-factor authentication on GitHub and your email

On 11Dec2017 0504, Paul Moore wrote: On 11 December 2017 at 12:29, Donald Stufft wrote: On Dec 11, 2017, at 7:03 AM, Paul Moore wrote: Um, I use https not ssh, as for at least some of the time I'm behind a firewall that only allows https, not ssh

Re: [python-committers] Visual Studio Team Services checks on pullrequests

Okay, now that it's morning and I have coffee, here's a full update on what I've been doing (those at the language summit have heard some of this already). Visual Studio Team Services is Microsoft's integrated code/build/release infrastructure service. The official marketing page is

Re: [python-committers] Visual Studio Team Services checks on pullrequests

On 17May2018 1014, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > That sounds cool. Which builds are you looking to migrate to VSTS? > macOS sounds like a no-brainer as the Travis-CI macOS infrastructure is > known to be very lacking (though it has been a bit better lately). > Windows may be reasonable since AppVeyor

Re: [python-committers] Quick reminder: please don't push long-lived dev branches to the CPython repo

On 25May2018 1043, Brett Cannon wrote: (and because people often forget to do `git pull --prune`), and two because it eats up our CI (which is especially precious while we are still on AppVeyor and the turn-around time there is so long). Don't we have branch filters on CI? (I certainly put

[python-committers] Visual Studio Team Services checks on pull requests

Hi all Just a quick note right now - don't have time for all the details. I'm experimenting with using Visual Studio Team Services to do builds of CPython. Right now, you'll probably see failed builds on all PRs while I get security options figured out. These *will not* block your PR, so feel

Re: [python-committers] Visual Studio Team Services checks on pullrequests

-posted from my Windows phone From: Steve Dower Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 18:10 To: python-committers@python.org Subject: [python-committers] Visual Studio Team Services checks on pullrequests Hi all Just a quick note right now - don't have time for all the details. I'm experimenting with using

Re: [python-committers] Core Dev Sprints

1553, Steve Dower wrote: Hi all Just a quick update to let everyone know that I've started sending out invites for the sprints. We have a limited number of *funded* places available, but room to accommodate more people actually being there. So the way I'm approaching this is by working down

Re: [python-committers] Results of Pablo's promotion votes: Pablo ispromoted as a core dev!

Not trying to dispute the result (I’d have posted earlier if I was really concerned), but it sounds like you’ve signed up to mentor someone for three months. Under normal circumstances, the commit bit comes at the end of mentorship, not at the start. Should we promote other mentees as well? I

Re: [python-committers] Wrongly stopping merges discourages merging.

We probably have enough data on the VSTS builds by now to see whether they are comparable/faster than AppVeyor. Obviously the idea of doing that work was to be able to migrate builds if it made sense, and if we decide not to then they get ripped out (non-binding PR checks are confusing IMHO,

Re: [python-committers] Comments on moving issues to GitHub

I think boards have improved since I last used them, but when I tried they added nothing but overhead. Possibly useful for planning, if we had someone who was responsible for that (maybe individual planning? But then you can’t really expect contributors to keep it up to date for you).

[python-committers] Core Dev Sprints

Hi all Just a quick update to let everyone know that I've started sending out invites for the sprints. We have a limited number of *funded* places available, but room to accommodate more people actually being there. So the way I'm approaching this is by working down a somewhat

Re: [python-committers] VSTS: how to rebuild a failing build?

profile" but I get an error :-) I cannot see my own profile: https://python.visualstudio.com/_details/profile/redirect "Sorry, but Victor Stinner (Microsoft account) is not authorized to access this page" Note: the Windows-PR build failed because of an "internal error". Stev

Re: [python-committers] Turning off AppVeyor as required

On 04Jun2018 0932, Victor Stinner wrote: 2018-06-04 18:18 GMT+02:00 Brett Cannon : I'm currently not in the mood to argue about VSTS' stability so I don't feel comfortable flipping that on as a requirement quite yet. I don't suggest to make it mandatory right now. I will try to keep on eye

Re: [python-committers] Turning off AppVeyor as required

Correct, and I wasn't planning on it. The default VSTS machines don’t have the right compiler, and I’m not about to start managing VMs for 2.7 at this stage. Top-posted from my Windows 10 phone From: Victor Stinner Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 10:07 To: Steve Dower Cc: python-committers Subject

Re: [python-committers] Poll: Do you like the PEP 572 Assignment Expressions?

On 02May2018 0249, Victor Stinner wrote: * +1: you like the PEP * -1: you dislike the PEP I love the PEP, it's one of the better ones for sure. :) I just don't like the proposed change. -1 Cheers, Steve ___ python-committers mailing list

Re: [python-committers] AppVeyor is now required to pass on PRs

Python 3 runs builds against the old MSVC (14.0) and the current one (14.1). I’m happy to fully drop support for the older one and remove those builds, but there was a bit of push back when first proposed. (Both toolsets produce binary compatible outputs, but the newer one has better

Re: [python-committers] Python workflow quirks with mercurial and hg-git extension

On 25Jan2018 0547, Ethan Furman wrote: > On 01/20/2018 11:19 AM, Jesus Cea wrote: >> I plan to come back to python development (about time!) but I truly >> hates git. I am experimenting with mercurial + hg-git extension and it >> is quite usable (after the initial painfully slow clone time), but I

Re: [python-committers] I created the "needs backport to 3.7" labelon GitHub

I’d suggest not porting anything to that branch until Ned gives the okay. Hopefully it’s locked right now anyway. Top-posted from my Windows phone From: Alex Gaynor Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 10:44 To: Mariatta Wijaya Cc: core-workflow; python-committers Subject: Re: [python-committers] I

Re: [python-committers] Auto-merge the backport PR with one coredev approval and all passing CI

+1 Miss Islington does a lot of great work maintaining all the released versions while we get to focus on the latest and greatest. Deserves commit rights :o) Top-posted from my Windows phone From: Mariatta Wijaya Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 0:19 To: Terry Reedy Cc: python-committers

Re: [python-committers] View logs on VSTS?

That looks unrelated. In this case I’m guessing the test run timed out and Ctrl+C failed to terminate it. For some reason when that happens the logs for the item that timed out are not shown, I'd guess because the item is marked “Timeout” rather than “Failed”. Do you see the “download logs”

Re: [python-committers] MSDN Subscriptions/Renewals

On 15Aug2018 0650, Brian Curtin wrote: This will give you access to Microsoft's Developer Network, which includes access to things like Visual Studio and Windows licenses that we can use for working on Python. Just to clarify one thing: you don't need a special license to get Visual Studio

Re: [python-committers] Winding down 3.4

“So that 3.4 dies in good health?” More like getting all its evil deeds off its chest on the death bed, I think :) Top-posted from my Windows 10 phone From: Antoine Pitrou Sent: Monday, 13 August 2018 2:59 To: Larry Hastings; python-committers; Python-Dev Subject: Re: [python-committers]

Re: [python-committers] An alternative governance model

On 20Jul2018 0858, Brett Cannon wrote: While I'm purposefully staying out of this thread as my name is currently so strongly associated with it and I don't want people thinking I'm a megalomaniac, I will say that I see no reason why I wouldn't get 50% time at Microsoft if I asked for it (I

Re: [python-committers] And Now for Something Completely Different

Summary: appointing a BDFL or small council *does not* force them to do all the work themselves. On 20Jul2018 0457, Victor Stinner wrote: mailing list (I'm talking about "+1" emails), before a formal and well defined PEP is written ;-) Until your new process arrives, "+1" emails are not

Re: [python-committers] An alternative governance model

On 18Jul2018 0910, Antoine Pitrou wrote: Le 18/07/2018 à 17:58, Ethan Furman a écrit : If we, by majority vote, pick a governance model (dictator, council, or whatever), then that legitimizes it. If we, by majority vote, pick the new BDFL, then that legitimizes it. Being unhappy with the

Re: [python-committers] Proposal: an explicit, time-limited moratorium on finalizing any governance decisions

I’ll be a little disappointed to not have anything in place by the sprints, as most of my planned work was to get my PEPs accepted, but it seems we have a fairly sizable split within the group between the ~3 proposals so far (NBDFL, Council, delay), so under the circumstances I think it’s most

Re: [python-committers] Transfer of power

On 12Jul2018 1102, Yury Selivanov wrote: IOW I don't see anyone (or some group of 3) who is as well-versed in everything on Guido's level. The actual solution is to ensure the members of the group are humble enough to admit this, and aware enough of the community to be able to identify and

Re: [python-committers] Transfer of power

On 12Jul2018 1104, Antoine Pitrou wrote: Le 12/07/2018 à 19:55, Brett Cannon a écrit : One other idea if we go the BDFL or triumvirate route is we could ask Guido to choose (if he's willing). I think Guido's key point is he wants us to choose how we want to keep this team going, but that may

Re: [python-committers] Transfer of power

On 12Jul2018 0958, Antoine Pitrou wrote: I'd like to point out that the N-virate idea doesn't handle a key issue: once you have a N-virate, how do you evolve its composition according to the implication and motivation of its members - but also to remarks or frustation by non-virate contributors

Re: [python-committers] Transfer of power

On 13Jul2018 1600, Larry Hastings wrote: I disagree.  My proposal for Python's Council Of Elders is partially based on the Supreme Court Of The United States.  For example, SCOTUS judges are appointed for life, and I think PCOE members should be too. When SCOTUS renders a decision: * the

[python-committers] Save the date: Core developer sprints

With similar levels of compulsion and blackmail as applied to selecting our esteemed Release Managers, it has fallen to me to organise our core developer sprints this year. Of course I’ll be choosing a location with maximum convenience for myself, which means we are going to be in Redmond,

Re: [python-committers] Save the date: Core developer sprints

phone From: M.-A. Lemburg Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2018 5:50 To: Larry Hastings; python-committers@python.org Subject: Re: [python-committers] Save the date: Core developer sprints On 18.03.2018 03:16, Larry Hastings wrote: > > > On 03/07/2018 09:25 PM, Steve Dower wrote: >>

Re: [python-committers] Suggestion: A PSF grant for running a "Core Dev Mentorship Program"

On 02Nov2018 0933, Victor Stinner wrote: Mentoring is an investment in the long term. Is it better to pay someone to review and merge PRs? Reviewing PRs is also a way to help and train contributors. It's not very different from mentoring, depending on your definition of mentoring :-) The

Re: [python-committers] Suggestion: A PSF grant for running a "Core Dev Mentorship Program"

On 03Nov2018 1006, Tal Einat wrote: My mentoring would aim to bring experienced developers to the point where they can consistently create high-quality PRs, requiring mostly high-level decisions from the experts. This is a great point, and I'm supportive of having "general reviewers" who can

Re: [python-committers] Timeline to vote for a governance PEP

On 04Nov2018 0338, Paul Moore wrote: I felt that "disenfranchised" described how I feel pretty well. If you're saying that my understanding of the word is inaccurate, then fine, I'm happy you know better than me. But I explained my problem in more detail as well as stating the summary version -

Re: [python-committers] python-committers is dead, long live discuss.python.org

I just wanted to add that while I was not involved in the Discourse discussions at the sprint (and didn't realise there were "discussions" going on), and while I would have been opposed to such a drastic change, my first impressions of discuss.python.org are good. Things that I have configured to

Re: [python-committers] sprints summary?

On 20Sep2018 1539, Antoine Pitrou wrote: Is there a summary of the sprints somewhere or is it planned to post one somewhere? It would be more to read a bit more about the discussions that took place. Currently debating the contents of the high-level blog post among those who were there. Once

[python-committers] Azure Pipelines Linux failures on PRs

Hi all Just a heads-up that the Azure Pipelines build failures for Linux machines are a known issue that should be fixed by the end of the week. It seems the service has become so popular since last week's announcements that many more builds are being run on machines that have been freshly

Re: [python-committers] A plea to stop last-minute changes to governance PEPs

On 19Nov2018 0838, Paul Moore wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2018 at 16:32, Steve Dower wrote: FWIW, I'm thinking about withdrawing it because PEP 8016 captures my highest priorities (specifically, core developers don't have a monopoly on decision-making skills, and don't apply unnecessary constraints

Re: [python-committers] A plea to stop last-minute changes to governance PEPs

On 19Nov2018 0530, Paul Moore wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2018 at 11:24, Nathaniel Smith wrote: - Steve Dower is considering withdrawing PEP 8013 entirely [4], which if it happens would be a major substantive change to PEP 8013 that voters would want to know about! Knowing about it - definitely

[python-committers] Governance Discussion #1 Notes

Hi all At the sprints this last week, probably unsurprisingly, we had some discussions relating to the future of Python's governance. Since not everyone could be involved, I'm going to be posting the notes from these meetings (taken by an independent note-taken, and reviewed/redacted by the

[python-committers] Governance Discussion #2 Notes

Hi all At the sprints this last week, probably unsurprisingly, we had some discussions relating to the future of Python's governance. Since not everyone could be involved, I'm going to be posting the notes from these meetings (taken by an independent note-taken, and reviewed/redacted by the

Re: [python-committers] Votes on new core dev candidates

On 25Mar2019 1503, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: On 25.03.2019 16:20, Steve Dower wrote: To be clear, my pushback (on Discourse, since I can only send email from an actual laptop these days but can participate over there from my phone) has been against vague nominations, not the individuals themselves

Re: [python-committers] Votes on new core dev candidates

On 25Mar2019 0217, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: I must say, I'm a bit surprised by the discussion around the voting process and the candidates. First, we've been complaining about lack of core devs for a long time. Now we have two great candidates with proven track record of contributing to Python and

Re: [python-committers] Vote to promote Stéphane Wirtel as a core dev

On 22Mar2019 0834, Victor Stinner wrote: Some of you already met him at Pycon US or EuroPython. I certainly have, a number of times. He's always seemed very willing to discuss ideas and his point of view on design issues, and it will be nice to finish some of those discussions by letting him

Re: [python-committers] Can we choose between mailing list and discuss.python.org?

On 13Feb2019 1112, Brett Cannon wrote: On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 2:55 AM Paul Moore > wrote: On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 at 22:00, Antoine Pitrou mailto:anto...@python.org>> wrote: > Here is a 161-message Discourse thread (at the time of this writing): >

Re: [python-committers] Azure build operations

Close/reopen is still the easiest way, unfortunately. I've been bugging the team to improve this, but other priorities have been higher. And I see this is a backport, which means as soon as you close it miss-islington will delete the branch and there's no way to restart it. If we integrated

Re: [python-committers] Azure build operations

On 21May2019 1234, Mariatta wrote: Maybe worth implementing a `retest` command so our bots can retrigger the tests without closing PR. Jenkins has this command. Or at the very least, a command so the bot can close/reopen the PR itself without deleting the branch. I honestly don't think

Re: [python-committers] Anthony Shaw has been given the bug triage permission

On 06May2019 1333, Cheryl Sabella wrote: Hello, During the PyCon sprints, I mentored Anthony Shaw (from Real Python) on triaging bug issues and GitHub pull requests.  I will continue to mentor him, but to help him have the greatest impact, he has been given the triage bit. Congratulations

[python-committers] Re: PEP 581/588 RFC: Collecting feedback about GitHub Issues

On 11Sep2019 1117, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 10:17:48AM +0100, Benjamin Peterson wrote: In other words, vanilla GitHub issue search does address Raymond's request? Given that github search is unlikely to be able to search "our voluminous history of already evaluated and

[python-committers] Re: Make AppVeyor CI non-mandatory during the CPython sprint?

On 10Sep2019 0949, Benjamin Peterson wrote: On Tue, Sep 10, 2019, at 08:54, Victor Stinner wrote: Le lun. 9 sept. 2019 à 18:46, Benjamin Peterson a écrit : No one could think of a reason not to replace AppVeyor with Azure, so I've gone ahead and done that on all those branches. Here is a

[python-committers] Re: [Python-cabal] Cannot release 3.9.0a4

Windows 7 is not supported for 3.9, but the buildbots have not been removed/repurposed yet. They can be ignored. There's a bug somewhere with the owners on it. Cheers, Steve Top-posted from my mobile device On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 1:03 AM +, "Łukasz Langa" wrote:

[python-committers] Re: The Night’s Watch is Fixing the CIs in the Darkness for You

On 06Apr2020 1750, Victor Stinner wrote: Le lun. 6 avr. 2020 à 13:31, Steve Dower a écrit : The CI configuration is loaded from the PR head, at least on GitHub Actions (where you can validate config changes in PR) and Azure Pipelines. I just validated this by re-running an old PR and watched

[python-committers] Re: The Night’s Watch is Fixing the CIs in the Darkness for You

On 03Apr2020 1948, Nathaniel Smith wrote: On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 11:32 AM Victor Stinner wrote: I had to update the OpenSSL version in the CI configuration which lives in the same Git repository than Python code base. Since our CI currently runs on unmodified PRs, maybe the 1090 pending pull

[python-committers] Re: MSDN Subscription renewals

an MSDN email. Could you double check that I was included? Thanks. -- Eric V. Smith (301) 502-0945 cell On Aug 21, 2020, at 3:22 PM, Steve Dower wrote: Thanks everyone. Those who sent me their details last week should have their renewals already, and anyone who emailed me since last Friday

[python-committers] Re: MSDN Subscription renewals

Thanks everyone. Those who sent me their details last week should have their renewals already, and anyone who emailed me since last Friday will get theirs shortly. Cheers, Steve On 8/13/2020 6:29 PM, Steve Dower wrote: Hi all It seems like people are due to renew their subscriptions

[python-committers] MSDN Subscription renewals

Hi all It seems like people are due to renew their subscriptions, and after a bit of internal-to-Microsoft organisational turmoil, I've found out who can provide them. While most of the tooling necessary for working on CPython is freely available (as Visual Studio Community), this will also

[python-committers] Re: Please avoid non-bugfix changes during the beta phase

On 07Jul2020 0321, Raymond Hettinger wrote: My two cents: I think this should be a little more liberal. At beta 1, freeze the addition of new features but continue to tweak the implementation with code clean-ups, additional tests, algorithmic improvements, and better docs. All of those things

[python-committers] Re: Python 3.10.0a5 is now available

Guessing PEP 632 should also be listed in these, though the only change right now is a deprecation warning when importing distutils. But publicity is important! Cheers, Steve On 2/3/2021 10:56 AM, Pablo Galindo Salgado wrote: Well, this one took a bit more time due to some surprise last time

[python-committers] Re: core-dev chat

On 18May2021 0306, Gregory P. Smith wrote: +1 agreed. Discord wins out in terms of features and **being where people are already at** in terms of modern IRC with replacement with bonus audio and video features for use when desired. I rarely bother to hang out on freenode IRC anymore out of

[python-committers] Re: list of core-devs, triagers, etc.

On 21Feb2022 1339, Petr Viktorin wrote: I still don't quite see how inactive subscribers make the list worse. Could you elaborate on that? They are not actively contributing, but they are actively receiving emails that the senders assume are only going to those actively participating in the

[python-committers] Re: Proposed tiered platform support

On 3/26/2022 5:11 PM, Victor Stinner wrote: * Buildbots run the test suite with "-u all" option. On Windows, Python is built in debug mode. * GHA uses "-u all,-cpu". On Windows, Python is built in release mode (I think that changed last change after the 3rd buildbot failure not catched by GHA

[python-committers] Vote to promote Barney Gale

I just nominated Barney Gale for core developer and pathlib maintainer/expert. Please vote over at https://discuss.python.org/t/vote-to-promote-barney-gale/24801 Cheers, Steve ___ python-committers mailing list -- python-committers@python.org To