Re: [Python-Dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Steve Holden wrote: > Stephen Hansen wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Guilherme Polo > > wrote: > > > > By "never had a problem" do you mean using some of the latest > versions > > ? Here, running "idle" from a mac term

Re: [Python-Dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

> What I specifically want right now is Commit Authorization Privilege, > especially for IDLE, Not sure who could grant that, but as far as I can: you have it. Regards, Martin ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mail

Re: [Python-Dev] [Idle-dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

On 11 Jul, 2010, at 19:35, Bill Janssen wrote: > Tal Einat wrote: > >> Although several people say that they think having IDLE in the stdlib >> is important, the fact is that IDLE is considered quite unimportant by >> most of the Python community. Having IDLE in the stdlib may be >> convenient

Re: [Python-Dev] [Idle-dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

On 11 Jul, 2010, at 15:24, Kevin Walzer wrote: > On 7/11/10 5:03 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: >> > >> >> The OSX issues al seem to be related to general Tk or Tkinter bugs >> on OSX. I know to little about Tk and Tkinter to seriously work on >> those. > > Ronald, > > How about http://bugs.pyth

Re: [Python-Dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

On 7/11/2010 2:40 PM, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: Guido There clearly are *some* folks who care enough about IDLE to submit bug reports and fixes. How about we empower these people by giving at least one of them commit privileges? IDLE development has often been done by people who aren't otherwise

Re: [Python-Dev] [Idle-dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

On the notion that IDLE is fatally flawed and is driving away potential users of Python (to put the statements in their most extreme form): It seems that there are (at least) two very different communities people have in mind. I can appreciate that highly expert programmers may find IDLE insuffici

Re: [Python-Dev] Issue 2986: difflib.SequenceMatcher is partly broken

[Terry Reedy] > I had considered the possibility of option A for 2.7 and A & C for 3.2. But > see below. > > Since posting, I did an experiment with a 700 char paragraph of text (the > summary from the post) compared to an 'edited' version. I did the > comparision with and without the current heuri

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3148 ready for pronouncement [ACCEPTED]

2010/7/11 Jesse Noller : > On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Benjamin Peterson > wrote: >> 2010/7/11 Jesse Noller : >>> On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Guido van Rossum wrote: >>> [snip] Great points Jesse! Since I really don't have the time or expertise to make a judgment on this PE

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3148 ready for pronouncement [ACCEPTED]

On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Benjamin Peterson wrote: > 2010/7/11 Jesse Noller : >> On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Guido van Rossum wrote: >> [snip] >>> Great points Jesse! Since I really don't have the time or expertise to >>> make a judgment on this PEP, I hereby appoint you chair of th

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3148 ready for pronouncement [ACCEPTED]

2010/7/11 Jesse Noller : > On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Guido van Rossum wrote: > [snip] >> Great points Jesse! Since I really don't have the time or expertise to >> make a judgment on this PEP, I hereby appoint you chair of the >> approval process for this PEP. That basically means that when

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3148 ready for pronouncement [ACCEPTED]

On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Guido van Rossum wrote: [snip] > Great points Jesse! Since I really don't have the time or expertise to > make a judgment on this PEP, I hereby appoint you chair of the > approval process for this PEP. That basically means that when you > think it's ready to be ap

Re: [Python-Dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 8:22 PM, geremy condra wrote: > On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: >> On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 14:59:14 -0400 >> Glyph Lefkowitz wrote: >>> >>> Guido proposes to give someone interested in IDLE commit access, and >>> hopefully that will help in > this part

Re: [Python-Dev] New regex module for 3.2?

On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 09:37:22 pm Eric Smith wrote: >> > re2 comparison is interesting from the point of if it should be >> > included in stdlib. >> >> Is "it" re2 or regex? I don't see having 2 regular expression engines >> in the stdlib. >

Re: [Python-Dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 8:07 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: >> >> I see. What copy have you been using specifically? I think I need to >> remove myself from these lists. >> >> Regards, >> Martin > > Hi Martin, > > Again thanks for the response. > > I've been working from this:- > http://svn.python.org/

Re: [Python-Dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 8:22 PM, geremy condra wrote: > On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: >> On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 14:59:14 -0400 >> Glyph Lefkowitz wrote: >>> >>> Guido proposes to give someone interested in IDLE commit access, and >>> hopefully that will help in > this part

Re: [Python-Dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 14:59:14 -0400 > Glyph Lefkowitz wrote: >> >> Guido proposes to give someone interested in IDLE commit access, and >> hopefully that will help in > this particular area.  But, as I recall, at >> the last language summi

Re: [Python-Dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > > Martin, > > Thanks for your response. > > IIRC Terry Reedy has already volunteered to do this, if I'm incorrect I'll > apologise right now to both of you. > > As for assigning bugs, I've been told to use the maintainer.rst list, so > eithe

Re: [Python-Dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

On 12/07/2010 00:56, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: IIRC Terry Reedy has already volunteered to do this Apologies to Terry if this is incorrect, but I believe this to be the case. Hmm. I don't recall that happening. As for assigning bugs, I've been told to use the maintainer.rst list, so either

Re: [Python-Dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

> IIRC Terry Reedy has already volunteered to do this Hmm. I don't recall that happening. > As for assigning bugs, I've been told to use the maintainer.rst list, so > either the list is wrong, or I've had finger problems. If it's the > latter I again say sorry. I see. What copy have you been u

Re: [Python-Dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

Stephen Hansen wrote: > On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Guilherme Polo > wrote: > > By "never had a problem" do you mean using some of the latest versions > ? Here, running "idle" from a mac terminal and trying to type: print > "hi" crashes when entering the

Re: [Python-Dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

On Jul 11, 2010, at 5:33 PM, Georg Brandl wrote: > Honestly, how would you feel as a committer to have scores of issues assigned > to you -- as a consequence of speedy triage -- knowing that you have to invest > potentially hours of volunteer time into them, while the person doing the > triaging i

Re: [Python-Dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

On Jul 11, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: > Unfortunately, it's often not clear what the submitter wants: does she > want to help, or want to get help? For a bug report, I often post a > message "can you provide a patch?", but sometimes, it isn't that clear. Perhaps this is the one area

Re: [Python-Dev] New regex module for 3.2?

On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 09:37:22 pm Eric Smith wrote: > > re2 comparison is interesting from the point of if it should be > > included in stdlib. > > Is "it" re2 or regex? I don't see having 2 regular expression engines > in the stdlib. There's precedence though... the old regex engine and the new re

Re: [Python-Dev] Can ftp url start with file:// ?

On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 12:01:07 am Steve Holden wrote: > My own inclination would be to regard the current treatment of file: > as a bug (albeit one not worth fixing on 2.x). ... > Presumably a > hostname in such a URI would require that some host-specific protocol > be used (but this should be an a

Re: [Python-Dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

2010/7/11 Mark Lawrence : > I can understand your frustration, but in response to an appeal from Terry > Reedy some weeks back on c.l.py I've done a substantial amount of work in > the last couple of weeks to clear outstanding issues, sadly IDLE just sits > in the pile.  Ow, but hang on a minute,  

Re: [Python-Dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

On 11/07/2010 19:40, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: There clearly are *some* folks who care enough about IDLE to submit bug reports and fixes. How about we empower these people by giving at least one of them commit privileges? IDLE development has often been done by people who aren't otherwise contribu

Re: [Python-Dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

2010/7/11 Mark Lawrence : > > I have been attempting to fill this hole and have been faced with animosity > from people who "hang out" on the python-dev IRC channel.  I thought it was > a complete and utter waste of space, so I don't intend going back.  I would > like things fixed, not a cosy littl

Re: [Python-Dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

On 11/07/2010 23:18, Tal Einat wrote: Martin v. Löwis wrote: Initially (five years ago!) I tried to overcome these issues by improving IDLE, solving problems and adding a few key features. Without going into details, suffice to say that IDLE hasn't improved much since 2005 despite my efforts. Fo

Re: [Python-Dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

On 11/07/2010 19:59, Glyph Lefkowitz wrote: On Jul 11, 2010, at 2:37 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: Initially (five years ago!) I tried to overcome these issues by improving IDLE, solving problems and adding a few key features. Without going into details, suffice to say that IDLE hasn't improved m

Re: [Python-Dev] [Idle-dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

> FWIW this is why I started IDLE-Spoon (well, continued Noam Raphael's > project of the same name, in a sense). The idea was to have a fork of > IDLE with new features which need to be tried out by "beta testers" to > iron out all of the glitches before making it into the main version, > like IDLE

Re: [Python-Dev] [Idle-dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

> My point is that I don't think I am exaggerating IDLE's flaws. I'm not > saying that it is no longer usable or useful, but I am saying that its > current state is not "okay". So can you produce a list of patches that you think can be accepted as-is? Preferably, make to lists: bug fixes, and new

Re: [Python-Dev] [Idle-dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

Guilherme Polo wrote: > 2010/7/11 "Martin v. Löwis" : >>> In the 2009 Google Summer of Code I was the mentor for a Brazilian >>> student, Guilherme Polo, who completed and extended important >>> improvements to IDLE made during the previous year by David Scherer. >>> Given the somewhat official nat

Re: [Python-Dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

On 07/10/2010 06:05 PM, Tal Einat wrote: Hello, I would like to propose removing IDLE from the standard library. I have been using IDLE since 2002 and have been doing my best to help maintain and further develop IDLE since 2005. In recent years IDLE has received negligible interest and atten

Re: [Python-Dev] [Idle-dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

> I think Martin has always supported me in some way and I really > appreciate that. But, maybe because I won commit privileges solely > based on GSoC work, I felt other developers wouldn't approve my > commits without previous discussion and that is the major reason for > not committing most of my

Re: [Python-Dev] [Idle-dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

Glyph Lefkowitz wrote: > > On Jul 11, 2010, at 10:22 AM, Tal Einat wrote: > > The people who are actually *in* those environments seem to disagree with > you :).  I think you underestimate the difficulty of getting software > installed and overestimate the demands of new Python users and students.

Re: [Python-Dev] [Idle-dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

2010/7/11 "Martin v. Löwis" : >> In the 2009 Google Summer of Code I was the mentor for a Brazilian >> student, Guilherme Polo, who completed and extended important >> improvements to IDLE made during the previous year by David Scherer. >> Given the somewhat official nature of this work, I assumed

Re: [Python-Dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

> I am aware of the situation with regard to issue reviews, but I think > with IDLE there is more going on. In other parts of the Python > codebase, a workaround for a major usability issue wouldn't normally > have taken nearly three years to resolve after a working patch was > submitted. Oh sure

Re: [Python-Dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

Martin v. Löwis wrote: >> Initially (five years ago!) I tried to overcome these issues by >> improving IDLE, solving problems and adding a few key features. >> Without going into details, suffice to say that IDLE hasn't improved >> much since 2005 despite my efforts. For example, see >> http://bugs

Re: [Python-Dev] [Idle-dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

> In the 2009 Google Summer of Code I was the mentor for a Brazilian > student, Guilherme Polo, who completed and extended important > improvements to IDLE made during the previous year by David Scherer. > Given the somewhat official nature of this work, I assumed that these > needed improvements w

Re: [Python-Dev] [Idle-dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

Perhaps there are two separable issues. Many of us see it as extremely important that some IDLE be part of the standard Python distribution ("batteries included"), for the reasons that several people have given. However, there is merit to the suggestion to have an active separate development, with

Re: [Python-Dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 6:30 AM, R. David Murray wrote: > So, this is indeed an area where improvement is theoretically possible, > but I'm not sure how we get from here to there.  As you say, one option is > for the PSF to fund people to do it somehow.  (I'd be happy to be one of > those people f

Re: [Python-Dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

Am 11.07.2010 20:59, schrieb Glyph Lefkowitz: > > On Jul 11, 2010, at 2:37 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: > >>> Initially (five years ago!) I tried to overcome these issues by >>> improving IDLE, solving problems and adding a few key features. >>> Without going into details, suffice to say that IDLE

Re: [Python-Dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

On 11/07/2010 20:47, A.M. Kuchling wrote: On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 05:22:28PM +0300, Tal Einat wrote: Initially (five years ago!) I tried to overcome these issues by improving IDLE, solving problems and adding a few key features. Without going into details, suffice to say that IDLE hasn't imp

Re: [Python-Dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 13:30, R. David Murray wrote: > On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 14:59:14 -0400, Glyph Lefkowitz > wrote: >> On Jul 11, 2010, at 2:37 PM, Martin v. L=F6wis wrote: >> > I can understand that this is frustrating, but please understand that >> > this is not specific to your patches, or t

Re: [Python-Dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 14:59:14 -0400, Glyph Lefkowitz wrote: > On Jul 11, 2010, at 2:37 PM, Martin v. L=F6wis wrote: > > I can understand that this is frustrating, but please understand that > > this is not specific to your patches, or to IDLE. Many other patches on > > bugs.python.org remain unre

Re: [Python-Dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 05:22:28PM +0300, Tal Einat wrote: > Initially (five years ago!) I tried to overcome these issues by > improving IDLE, solving problems and adding a few key features. > Without going into details, suffice to say that IDLE hasn't improved > much since 2005 despite my efforts.

Re: [Python-Dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 14:59:14 -0400 Glyph Lefkowitz wrote: > > Guido proposes to give someone interested in IDLE commit access, and > hopefully that will help in > this particular area. But, as I recall, at the > last language summit there was quite a bit of > discussion about how to address th

Re: [Python-Dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

> (This seems to me like an area where a judicious application of PSF > funds might help; if every single bug were actively triaged and > responded to, even if it weren't reviewed, and patch contributors were > directed to take specific steps to elicit a response or a review, the > fact that patch

Re: [Python-Dev] Getting an optional parameter instead of creating a socket internally

On 03:11 pm, j...@jcea.es wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 13/04/10 04:03, exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote: On 12 Apr, 11:19 pm, j...@jcea.es wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/13/2010 12:47 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: Jesus Cea jcea.es> writes:

Re: [Python-Dev] Can ftp url start with file:// ?

Fred Drake wrote: > On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 11:56 PM, Senthil Kumaran wro= > te: > > I see the reason. But I doubt if this is a reliable approach. =A0Also > > when the scheme begins with file:// it should not be confused with > > ftp, so I think, that portion of code in urllib which work that wa

Re: [Python-Dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

On Jul 11, 2010, at 2:37 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: >> Initially (five years ago!) I tried to overcome these issues by >> improving IDLE, solving problems and adding a few key features. >> Without going into details, suffice to say that IDLE hasn't improved >> much since 2005 despite my efforts.

Re: [Python-Dev] [Idle-dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

On Jul 11, 2010, at 10:22 AM, Tal Einat wrote: > Most of the responses up to this point have been strongly against my > proposal. The main reason given is that it is nice to have a graphical > IDE supported out-of-the-box with almost any Python installation. This > is especially important for nov

Re: [Python-Dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

>> There clearly are *some* folks who care enough about IDLE to submit >> bug reports and fixes. How about we empower these people by giving at >> least one of them commit privileges? IDLE development has often been >> done by people who aren't otherwise contributing to the core, and we >> surely s

Re: [Python-Dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

> Initially (five years ago!) I tried to overcome these issues by > improving IDLE, solving problems and adding a few key features. > Without going into details, suffice to say that IDLE hasn't improved > much since 2005 despite my efforts. For example, see > http://bugs.python.org/issue1529142, wh

Re: [Python-Dev] commit privs

On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 09:28, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 13:23:13 + > Reid Kleckner wrote: >> >> I'm also expecting to be doing more work merging unladen-swallow into >> the py3k-jit branch, so I was wondering if I could get commit >> privileges for that. > > It sounds good

Re: [Python-Dev] Can ftp url start with file:// ?

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 11:56 PM, Senthil Kumaran wrote: > I see the reason. But I doubt if this is a reliable approach.  Also > when the scheme begins with file:// it should not be confused with > ftp, so I think, that portion of code in urllib which work that way > should be removed. I'm not tr

Re: [Python-Dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

Tal Einat wrote: > Although several people say that they think having IDLE in the stdlib > is important, the fact is that IDLE is considered quite unimportant by > most of the Python community. Having IDLE in the stdlib may be > convenient for a few people, but most never use it and don't care >

Re: [Python-Dev] Threading bug review + commit privs

Am 11.07.2010 15:23, schrieb Reid Kleckner: > I'm also expecting to be doing more work merging unladen-swallow into > the py3k-jit branch, so I was wondering if I could get commit > privileges for that. Sure -- send your public key to me, and I'll set you up. Georg -- Thus spake the Lord: Thou

[Python-Dev] commit privs

On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 13:23:13 + Reid Kleckner wrote: > > I'm also expecting to be doing more work merging unladen-swallow into > the py3k-jit branch, so I was wondering if I could get commit > privileges for that. It sounds good to me. Also, thanks for your threading patches! Regards Antoin

[Python-Dev] I use both IDLE and my console

Hello all, Buggy or not it's quite handy and as I said I use both when programming in python. To discontinue it is just not a good idea. Hausburn___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubs

Re: [Python-Dev] Getting an optional parameter instead of creating a socket internally

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 13/04/10 04:03, exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote: > On 12 Apr, 11:19 pm, j...@jcea.es wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 04/13/2010 12:47 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: >>> Jesus Cea jcea.es> writes: PS: "socket

Re: [Python-Dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

Guido van Rossum wrote: >David Beazley wrote: >> >>> I would like to propose removing IDLE from the standard library. >>> >> >> -1000. From the Python training department, I would like to say that this >> would be a horrible idea. > >Right. IDLE fits a niche. It's never going to be the world's b

Re: [Python-Dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Tal Einat wrote: >> I would like to propose removing IDLE from the standard library. >> >> I have been using IDLE since 2002 and have been doing my best to help >> maintain and further develop IDLE since 2005. > > I'm surprised by the amount of interest this has ra

Re: [Python-Dev] [Idle-dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

On 7/11/10 5:03 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: The OSX issues al seem to be related to general Tk or Tkinter bugs on OSX. I know to little about Tk and Tkinter to seriously work on those. Ronald, How about http://bugs.python.org/issue6075? I first submitted that patch in May '09, and updated

Re: [Python-Dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

On 11-7-2010 14:52, Guido van Rossum wrote: On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 2:16 PM, David Beazley wrote: I would like to propose removing IDLE from the standard library. -1000. From the Python training department, I would like to say that this would be a horrible idea. Having taught numerous

Re: [Python-Dev] Can ftp url start with file:// ?

Senthil Kumaran wrote: > On Fri, Jul 09, 2010 at 02:32:04PM -0400, Fred Drake wrote: >> FTP access also more often reflected the actual file hierarchy of the >> machine, so trying that path as a system path is more likely to work >> that I'd expect to see for HTTP. > > I see the reason. But I doub

Re: [Python-Dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 2:16 PM, David Beazley wrote: > >> I would like to propose removing IDLE from the standard library. >> > > -1000.   From the Python training department, I would like to say that this > would be a horrible idea.   Having taught numerous on-site training courses > for Pytho

[Python-Dev] Threading bug review + commit privs

Hey all, I'm porting some fixes for threading.py that we applied to unladen-swallow: http://bugs.python.org/issue6643 We ran into these bizarre race conditions involving fork + threads while running the test suite with a background JIT compilation thread. I really wish we weren't trying to suppo

Re: [Python-Dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

> I would like to propose removing IDLE from the standard library. > -1000. From the Python training department, I would like to say that this would be a horrible idea. Having taught numerous on-site training courses for Python, the one thing that I've learned is that you never know what y

Re: [Python-Dev] New regex module for 3.2?

On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 7:19 PM, anatoly techtonik wrote: > On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 6:59 PM, Jeffrey Yasskin wrote: >> >> While the re2 comparison might be interesting from an abstract >> standpoint, it intentionally supports a different regex language from >> Python so that it can run faster and

Re: [Python-Dev] New regex module for 3.2?

On 7/11/2010 5:19 AM, anatoly techtonik wrote: On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 6:59 PM, Jeffrey Yasskin wrote: While the re2 comparison might be interesting from an abstract standpoint, it intentionally supports a different regex language from Python so that it can run faster and use less memory. Since

Re: [Python-Dev] [Idle-dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: > > On 11 Jul, 2010, at 10:57, Tal Einat wrote: >> >> When I ran into bugs I fixed them and submitted a patch. I have also >> done so for quite a few bugs reported by others. However, there are >> currently several bugs in the tracker which n

Re: [Python-Dev] New regex module for 3.2?

On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 6:59 PM, Jeffrey Yasskin wrote: > > While the re2 comparison might be interesting from an abstract > standpoint, it intentionally supports a different regex language from > Python so that it can run faster and use less memory. Since re2 can > never replace Python's re module

Re: [Python-Dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 21:33:28 -0400 Terry Reedy wrote: > > The problem here, it seems to me, is that all issues are autoassigned to > an inactive person (KBK) who does not really accept them except once a > year or so. I do not know whether all other commiter are unwilling to > commit IDLE issu

Re: [Python-Dev] [Idle-dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

On 11 Jul, 2010, at 10:57, Tal Einat wrote: > > When I ran into bugs I fixed them and submitted a patch. I have also > done so for quite a few bugs reported by others. However, there are > currently several bugs in the tracker which nobody is taking any > notice of. IIRC most of the recent bugs a

Re: [Python-Dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

> I would like to propose removing IDLE from the standard library. > > I have been using IDLE since 2002 and have been doing my best to help > maintain and further develop IDLE since 2005. I'm surprised by the amount of interest this has raised already. To answer a few questions that were raised:

Re: [Python-Dev] [Idle-dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library

On 2010-07-11, Ronald Oussoren wrote: > On 11 Jul, 2010, at 1:05, Tal Einat wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I would like to propose removing IDLE from the standard library. -1 > > I have been using IDLE since 2002 and have been doing my best to help > > maintain and further develop IDLE since 2005. [s