Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-21 Thread Alan Meyer
On 11/17/2011 3:43 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: ... If you're having issues, grab a spare computer, throw Linux on it (I recommend Ubuntu or Debian, others will have other preferred distros), and see if the issues remain. Or if you're having trouble with the GUI, try things from the command line

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-20 Thread alex23
On Nov 19, 3:59 am, W. eWatson wolftra...@invalid.com wrote: Yes. I tried running it. Got nowhere. Did you run it from the shell? Did it spit out any errors? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-20 Thread alex23
On Nov 19, 8:31 am, Stephen Hansen me+list/pyt...@ixokai.io wrote: Yes, its moderately annoying that you have to do this yourself; maybe you wouldn't if you installed 64-bit python, but I can't be sure. Maybe it has nothing to do with 32 or 64-bitness at all and my guess is wrong. I've got the

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-18 Thread Neil Cerutti
On 2011-11-18, W. eWatson wolftra...@invalid.com wrote: On 11/17/2011 4:24 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:03:14 -0800, W. eWatson wrote: I have not found any successful way to get to IDLE. It's on on the right-click of a py menu, and, if I go the ...lib/idle.pyw, it fails

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-18 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/18/2011 5:11 AM, Neil Cerutti wrote: On 2011-11-18, W. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.com wrote: On 11/17/2011 4:24 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:03:14 -0800, W. eWatson wrote: I have not found any successful way to get to IDLE. It's on on the right-click of a py menu,

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-18 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/17/2011 8:34 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:55:36 -0800, W. eWatson wolftra...@invalid.com declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general: Months ago 2.5.2 stopped functioning on my Win7 PC, so a few days ago I uninstalled and installed. Same problem. If one

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-18 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/17/2011 8:34 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:55:36 -0800, W. eWatson wolftra...@invalid.com declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general: Months ago 2.5.2 stopped functioning on my Win7 PC, so a few days ago I uninstalled and installed. Same problem. If one

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-18 Thread MRAB
On 18/11/2011 15:29, W. eWatson wrote: On 11/18/2011 5:11 AM, Neil Cerutti wrote: On 2011-11-18, W. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.com wrote: On 11/17/2011 4:24 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:03:14 -0800, W. eWatson wrote: I have not found any successful way to get to IDLE.

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-18 Thread rusi
On Nov 18, 10:12 pm, MRAB pyt...@mrabarnett.plus.com wrote: On 18/11/2011 15:29, W. eWatson wrote: On 11/18/2011 5:11 AM, Neil Cerutti wrote: On 2011-11-18, W. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.com wrote: On 11/17/2011 4:24 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:03:14 -0800, W.

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-18 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/18/2011 9:12 AM, MRAB wrote: On 18/11/2011 15:29, W. eWatson wrote: On 11/18/2011 5:11 AM, Neil Cerutti wrote: On 2011-11-18, W. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.com wrote: On 11/17/2011 4:24 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:03:14 -0800, W. eWatson wrote: I have not found

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-18 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/18/2011 9:19 AM, rusi wrote: On Nov 18, 10:12 pm, MRABpyt...@mrabarnett.plus.com wrote: On 18/11/2011 15:29, W. eWatson wrote: On 11/18/2011 5:11 AM, Neil Cerutti wrote: On 2011-11-18, W. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.com wrote: On 11/17/2011 4:24 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-18 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/17/2011 11:35 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: On 11/17/2011 7:03 PM, W. eWatson wrote: I have not found any successful way to get to IDLE. Use the start menu to start IDLE once. Then pin it to your taskbar. If you do not have STart/ all programs / Python / IDLE, then your installation is bad.

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-18 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/17/2011 9:25 PM, Benjamin Kaplan wrote: On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 11:21 PM, W. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.com wrote: On 11/17/2011 7:59 PM, Dave Angel wrote: On 11/17/2011 03:31 PM, W. eWatson wrote: On 11/17/2011 9:39 AM, John Gordon wrote: SNIP Can you add IDLE manually to the

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-18 Thread Stephen Hansen
On 11/17/11 8:34 PM, W. eWatson wrote: On 11/17/2011 7:04 PM, alex23 wrote: On Nov 18, 2:55 am, W. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.com wrote: Comments? Are you using the vanilla installer or ActiveState's ActivePython? I find the latter integrates better with Windows. Also, out of curiousity,

Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-17 Thread W. eWatson
Months ago 2.5.2 stopped functioning on my Win7 PC, so a few days ago I uninstalled and installed. Same problem. If one right-clicks on a py file, IDLE is not shown in the menu as Edit with IDLE. After playing with matters I gave up, and uninstalled 2.5.2 and turned to 2.7.2. Same results.

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-17 Thread ray
On Friday, November 18, 2011 12:55 AM, W. eWatson wrote: Months ago 2.5.2 stopped functioning on my Win7 PC, so a few days ago I uninstalled and installed. Same problem. If one right-clicks on a py file, IDLE is not shown in the menu as Edit with IDLE. After playing with matters I gave up, and

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-17 Thread spartan.the
On 17 Nov, 18:55, W. eWatson wolftra...@invalid.com wrote: Months ago 2.5.2 stopped functioning on my Win7 PC, so a few days ago I uninstalled and installed. Same problem. If one right-clicks on a py file, IDLE is not shown in the menu as Edit with IDLE. After playing with matters I gave up,

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-17 Thread John Gordon
In ja3eae$rr$1...@dont-email.me W. eWatson wolftra...@invalid.com writes: Months ago 2.5.2 stopped functioning on my Win7 PC, so a few days ago I uninstalled and installed. Same problem. If one right-clicks on a py file, IDLE is not shown in the menu as Edit with IDLE. After playing with

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-17 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:55:36 -0800, W. eWatson wrote: Months ago 2.5.2 stopped functioning on my Win7 PC, so a few days ago I uninstalled and installed. Same problem. If one right-clicks on a py file, IDLE is not shown in the menu as Edit with IDLE. After playing with matters I gave up, and

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-17 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/17/2011 9:39 AM, John Gordon wrote: Inja3eae$rr$1...@dont-email.me W. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.com writes: Months ago 2.5.2 stopped functioning on my Win7 PC, so a few days ago I uninstalled and installed. Same problem. If one right-clicks on a py file, IDLE is not shown in the menu

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-17 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/17/2011 9:39 AM, John Gordon wrote: Inja3eae$rr$1...@dont-email.me W. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.com writes: Months ago 2.5.2 stopped functioning on my Win7 PC, so a few days ago I uninstalled and installed. Same problem. If one right-clicks on a py file, IDLE is not shown in the menu

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-17 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 7:31 AM, W. eWatson wolftra...@invalid.com wrote: I installed it [Windows 7] about April 2010, and it worked for months. I then stopped using it until around July 2011. It no longer worked in the IDLE sense. Microsoft have broken things in many Windowses, and it's

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-17 Thread MRAB
On 17/11/2011 20:31, W. eWatson wrote: On 11/17/2011 9:39 AM, John Gordon wrote: Inja3eae$rr$1...@dont-email.me W. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.com writes: Months ago 2.5.2 stopped functioning on my Win7 PC, so a few days ago I uninstalled and installed. Same problem. If one right-clicks on a py

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-17 Thread spartan.the
On Nov 17, 10:31 pm, W. eWatson wolftra...@invalid.com wrote: On 11/17/2011 9:39 AM, John Gordon wrote: Inja3eae$r...@dont-email.me  W. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.com  writes: Months ago 2.5.2 stopped functioning on my Win7 PC, so a few days ago I uninstalled and installed. Same problem. If

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-17 Thread Terry Reedy
On 11/17/2011 11:55 AM, W. eWatson wrote: Months ago 2.5.2 stopped functioning on my Win7 PC, so a few days ago I uninstalled and installed. Same problem. If one right-clicks on a py file, IDLE is not shown in the menu as Edit with IDLE. After playing with matters I gave up, and uninstalled

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-17 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/17/2011 12:46 PM, spartan.the wrote: On Nov 17, 10:31 pm, W. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.com wrote: On 11/17/2011 9:39 AM, John Gordon wrote: Inja3eae$r...@dont-email.meW. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.comwrites: Months ago 2.5.2 stopped functioning on my Win7 PC, so a few days ago

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-17 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/17/2011 12:59 PM, MRAB wrote: On 17/11/2011 20:31, W. eWatson wrote: On 11/17/2011 9:39 AM, John Gordon wrote: Inja3eae$rr$1...@dont-email.me W. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.com writes: Months ago 2.5.2 stopped functioning on my Win7 PC, so a few days ago I uninstalled and installed. Same

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-17 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/17/2011 2:12 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: On 11/17/2011 11:55 AM, W. eWatson wrote: Months ago 2.5.2 stopped functioning on my Win7 PC, so a few days ago I uninstalled and installed. Same problem. If one right-clicks on a py file, IDLE is not shown in the menu as Edit with IDLE. After playing

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-17 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:03:14 -0800, W. eWatson wrote: I have not found any successful way to get to IDLE. It's on on the right-click of a py menu, and, if I go the ...lib/idle.pyw, it fails with a invalid Win32 app msg. If you associate .pyw files with pythonw.exe, and then open idle.pyw,

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-17 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
On 17/11/2011 23:54, W. eWatson wrote: cut My mistake above. I was talking about the previous 2.5.2 of install in Win7. Where I'm at is 2.7.2 now. However, I still find in very odd there is no Edit with IDLE when I right-click on junk.py. That's the way it worked on 2.5.2 on my XP and earlier,

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-17 Thread alex23
On Nov 18, 2:55 am, W. eWatson wolftra...@invalid.com wrote: Comments? Are you using the vanilla installer or ActiveState's ActivePython? I find the latter integrates better with Windows. Also, out of curiousity, 32 or 64 bit Windows? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-17 Thread Dave Angel
On 11/17/2011 03:31 PM, W. eWatson wrote: On 11/17/2011 9:39 AM, John Gordon wrote: SNIP Can you add IDLE manually to the associated applications list? Tried that by sending it directly to idle.pyw, but then trying to get there through the Edit with menu caused a invalid Win32 app. You've

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-17 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/17/2011 7:59 PM, Dave Angel wrote: On 11/17/2011 03:31 PM, W. eWatson wrote: On 11/17/2011 9:39 AM, John Gordon wrote: SNIP Can you add IDLE manually to the associated applications list? Tried that by sending it directly to idle.pyw, but then trying to get there through the Edit with

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-17 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/17/2011 4:24 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:03:14 -0800, W. eWatson wrote: I have not found any successful way to get to IDLE. It's on on the right-click of a py menu, and, if I go the ...lib/idle.pyw, it fails with a invalid Win32 app msg. If you associate .pyw

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-17 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/17/2011 7:04 PM, alex23 wrote: On Nov 18, 2:55 am, W. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.com wrote: Comments? Are you using the vanilla installer or ActiveState's ActivePython? I find the latter integrates better with Windows. Also, out of curiousity, 32 or 64 bit Windows? 64-bit and plain

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-17 Thread Benjamin Kaplan
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 11:21 PM, W. eWatson wolftra...@invalid.com wrote: On 11/17/2011 7:59 PM, Dave Angel wrote: On 11/17/2011 03:31 PM, W. eWatson wrote: On 11/17/2011 9:39 AM, John Gordon wrote: SNIP Can you add IDLE manually to the associated applications list? Tried that by

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-17 Thread alex23
On Nov 18, 2:21 pm, W. eWatson wolftra...@invalid.com wrote: Because some  people think that's a solution, and ask. It's not. It leads to an error message. No, people are saying manually add IDLE _the correct way that Windows can recognise_, not recommending you stuff random .pyw files into the

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-17 Thread Terry Reedy
On 11/17/2011 7:03 PM, W. eWatson wrote: I have not found any successful way to get to IDLE. Use the start menu to start IDLE once. Then pin it to your taskbar. If you do not have STart/ all programs / Python / IDLE, then your installation is bad. As for the right click problem, you