Le lundi 26 mai 2014 01:09:31 UTC+2, Mark Lawrence a écrit :
> On 25/05/2014 23:22, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
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> > On Sun, 25 May 2014 11:34:59 -0700, Ethan Furman
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> > declaimed the following:
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> >> On 05/25/2014 10:38 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
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> >>>
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> >>> Your unicode is mojibaked
On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 8:29:13 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Mon, 26 May 2014 08:44:51 -0400, Roy Smith wrote:
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> >> That makes even less sense. The build system runs under whatever
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> >> version of Python it needs, and your code runs under whatever version
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> >> of Python
Oh, I was a bit trigger-happy with my earlier post.
On Mon, 26 May 2014 08:44:51 -0400, Roy Smith wrote about his build
system and production code:
> The are tightly integrated, and share code.
[...]
> When you start working with large systems, reducing complexity becomes
> important. Every t
On Mon, 26 May 2014 08:44:51 -0400, Roy Smith wrote:
>> That makes even less sense. The build system runs under whatever
>> version of Python it needs, and your code runs under whatever version
>> of Python you like. The two don't affect each other at run time, and
>> don't affect each other's tes
In article ,
Ben Finney wrote:
> Roy Smith writes:
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> > Stefan Behnel wrote:
> >
> > > And I don't really see why you would consider fabric a dependency
> > > that keeps you from switching to Py3. In many cases, you can just
> > > keep running it in Py2 as you did before.
> >
> > In theory,
Roy Smith writes:
> Stefan Behnel wrote:
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> > And I don't really see why you would consider fabric a dependency
> > that keeps you from switching to Py3. In many cases, you can just
> > keep running it in Py2 as you did before.
>
> In theory, that's possible. In practice, it would mean having t
On Sunday 25 May 2014 18:22:11 Dennis Lee Bieber did opine
And Gene did reply:
> On Sun, 25 May 2014 11:34:59 -0700, Ethan Furman
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> declaimed the following:
> >On 05/25/2014 10:38 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
> >> Your unicode is mojibaked Ethan! Voilï؟½.
> >> You are hereby banished to a lonely isl
On 5/25/2014 6:20 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
the mailing
list and gmane group may have some spam filters in place but no real
moderation.
They *do* have spam, structure, and source filters. Please do not
mis-inform people that they post most anything to python-list without
consequence.
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On 05/25/2014 03:22 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
On Sun, 25 May 2014 11:34:59 -0700, Ethan Furman
declaimed the following:
On 05/25/2014 10:38 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
Your unicode is mojibaked Ethan! Voilà.
You are hereby banished to a lonely island with python 1.5 and jmf for company
:D
On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 8:22 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber
wrote:
> On Sun, 25 May 2014 11:34:59 -0700, Ethan Furman
> declaimed the following:
>
>>On 05/25/2014 10:38 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
>>>
>>> Your unicode is mojibaked Ethan! Voil�.
>>> You are hereby banished to a lonely island with python 1.5
On 25/05/2014 23:22, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
On Sun, 25 May 2014 11:34:59 -0700, Ethan Furman
declaimed the following:
On 05/25/2014 10:38 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
Your unicode is mojibaked Ethan! Voil�.
You are hereby banished to a lonely island with python 1.5 and jmf for company
:D
1
On 05/25/2014 11:56 AM, Tim Chase wrote:
Thunderbird does offer the ability to change default character
encodings (Edit -> Preferences -> Display -> Formatting tab ->
Advanced...) for sending and receiving, but you have to go out of your
way to change them to something like UTF-8. On the same p
On 25/05/2014 19:34, Ethan Furman wrote:
On 05/25/2014 10:38 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
Your unicode is mojibaked Ethan! Voil�.
You are hereby banished to a lonely island with python 1.5 and jmf for
company :D
1.5 I could live with. :( Surely the company would count as cruel and
unusual puni
On 05/25/2014 10:38 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
Your unicode is mojibaked Ethan! Voil�.
You are hereby banished to a lonely island with python 1.5 and jmf for company
:D
1.5 I could live with. :( Surely the company would count as cruel and
unusual punishment?
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On 2014-05-25 18:17, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Sun, 25 May 2014 10:38:42 -0700, Rustom Mody wrote:
> > Your unicode is mojibaked Ethan! Voil�. You are hereby
> > banished to a lonely island with python 1.5 and jmf for company :D
>
> Nope, it's you. Ethan's post is fine. He correctly quotes JM
On Sun, 25 May 2014 10:38:42 -0700, Rustom Mody wrote:
> On Sunday, May 25, 2014 8:51:18 PM UTC+5:30, Ethan Furman wrote:
>> On 05/24/2014 11:43 PM, jmf wrote:
>> >
>> > Python and unicode: a buggy hobbyist toy. Voil�. Nothing either
>> > good or bad.
>>
>>
>> I thought this was a moderated li
In article ,
Stefan Behnel wrote:
> Ubuntu provides a (partial) Py3 port of boto.
As long as the part that's ported includes all the bits of boto we
currently need, plus all the bits of boto we haven't yet discovered we
need, but will sometime in the future, we're good :-)
> And I don't real
On Sunday, May 25, 2014 8:51:18 PM UTC+5:30, Ethan Furman wrote:
> On 05/24/2014 11:43 PM, jmf wrote:
> >
> > Python and unicode: a buggy hobbyist toy.
> > Voil�. Nothing either good or bad.
>
>
> I thought this was a moderated list. What exactly are the moderators doing?
Your unicode is moj
On 25/05/2014 16:21, Ethan Furman wrote:
On 05/24/2014 11:43 PM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
Python and unicode: a buggy hobbyist toy.
Voilà. Nothing either good or bad.
I thought this was a moderated list. What exactly are the moderators
doing?
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I don't think the list is modera
On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 1:21 AM, Ethan Furman wrote:
> On 05/24/2014 11:43 PM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>
>> Python and unicode: a buggy hobbyist toy.
>> Voilà. Nothing either good or bad.
>
>
> I thought this was a moderated list. What exactly are the moderators doing?
It's not a moderate
On 05/24/2014 11:43 PM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
Python and unicode: a buggy hobbyist toy.
Voilà. Nothing either good or bad.
I thought this was a moderated list. What exactly are the moderators doing?
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Roy Smith, 24.05.2014 01:57:
> I installed and ran caniusepython3. It tells me:
>
>> Finding and checking dependencies ...
>> [WARNING] rpclib not found
>>
>> You need 19 projects to transition to Python 3.
>> Of those 19 projects, 17 have no direct dependencies blocking their
>> transition:
>>
Hi Roy.
On 24.5.2014. 1:57, Roy Smith wrote:
You need 19 projects to transition to Python 3.
Of those 19 projects, 17 have no direct dependencies blocking their
transition:
[...snipped...]
suds
That's a big list. A few of those we could probably work around or
replace with a different m
Le dimanche 25 mai 2014 02:27:11 UTC+2, Terry Reedy a écrit :
> On 5/24/2014 3:49 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
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> > Few people have Python 3 as an objective. What I'm saying is that if
>
> > Python 3 had something everybody wants and nothing else provides, the
>
> > people will come, even th
On 5/24/2014 3:49 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Few people have Python 3 as an objective. What I'm saying is that if
Python 3 had something everybody wants and nothing else provides, the
people will come, even the legacy libraries will be ported then.
I cannot think of anything beyond the core tha
On 24/05/2014 20:49, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Devin Jeanpierre :
If you want to migrate to Python 3, help that library forward, rather
than trying to make some bespoke replacement you think will be a
killer app.
Few people have Python 3 as an objective. What I'm saying is that if
Python 3 had so
Devin Jeanpierre :
> If you want to migrate to Python 3, help that library forward, rather
> than trying to make some bespoke replacement you think will be a
> killer app.
Few people have Python 3 as an objective. What I'm saying is that if
Python 3 had something everybody wants and nothing else
Devin Jeanpierre, 24.05.2014 18:03:
> On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 2:59 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>> blindanagram:
>> Instead of focusing on bringing legacy libraries to Python3 (for which
>> there never seems to be a critical need), Python3 needs a brand new
>> killer module/application/library that is
On 05/24/2014 09:03 AM, Devin Jeanpierre wrote:
On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 2:59 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>>
Instead of focusing on bringing legacy libraries to Python3 (for which
there never seems to be a critical need), Python3 needs a brand new
killer module/application/library that is only ava
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> On May 24, 2014, at 7:35, blindanagram wrote:
>
>> On 24/05/2014 08:13, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Le vendredi 23 mai 2014 22:16:10 UTC+2, Mark Lawrence a écrit :
>>> An article by Brett Cannon that I thought might be of interest
>>>
>>> http://nothingbutsnark.svbtle
On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 2:59 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> blindanagram :
> Instead of focusing on bringing legacy libraries to Python3 (for which
> there never seems to be a critical need), Python3 needs a brand new
> killer module/application/library that is only available on Python3.
>
> Asyncio
On 2014-05-24, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
> Python 3 will never work.
Neither will color TV.
All that phase detection stuff and that shadow-mask thing?
And airplanes? Bah!
Completely ridiculous.
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On Saturday, May 24, 2014 3:29:01 PM UTC+5:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>
>
>
> Instead of focusing on bringing legacy libraries to Python3 (for which
> there never seems to be a critical need), Python3 needs a brand new
> killer module/application/library that is only available on Python3.
>
I t
blindanagram :
>> Quote:
>> """ And with Python 3.4 I really have not heard anyone complain that
>> they wouldn't like to use Python 3 instead of Python 2. """
>>
>> Or the devs do not wish to listen.
>>
>> Python 3 will never work.
>
> It works for me.
Instead of focusing on bringing legacy li
On 24/05/2014 08:13, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
> Le vendredi 23 mai 2014 22:16:10 UTC+2, Mark Lawrence a écrit :
>> An article by Brett Cannon that I thought might be of interest
>>
>> http://nothingbutsnark.svbtle.com/my-view-on-the-current-state-of-python-3
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> My fellow Pytho
Le vendredi 23 mai 2014 22:16:10 UTC+2, Mark Lawrence a écrit :
> An article by Brett Cannon that I thought might be of interest
>
> http://nothingbutsnark.svbtle.com/my-view-on-the-current-state-of-python-3
>
>
>
> --
>
> My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask
Roy Smith writes:
> Thanks for the pointer. I installed and ran caniusepython3. It tells
> me:
>
> > Of those 19 projects, 17 have no direct dependencies blocking their
> > transition:
> > […]
> > fabric
Fabric was for a long time held back by its dependency on the Paramiko
library. But th
In article ,
Ethan Furman wrote:
> On 05/23/2014 04:57 PM, Roy Smith wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the pointer. I installed and ran caniusepython3. It tells
> > me:
>
> [snip]
>
> > That's a big list. A few of those we could probably work around or
> > replace with a different module without to
On 05/23/2014 04:57 PM, Roy Smith wrote:
Thanks for the pointer. I installed and ran caniusepython3. It tells
me:
[snip]
That's a big list. A few of those we could probably work around or
replace with a different module without too much pain. But, between
gevent, boto, fabric, and suds,
In article ,
Mark Lawrence wrote:
> An article by Brett Cannon that I thought might be of interest
> http://nothingbutsnark.svbtle.com/my-view-on-the-current-state-of-python-3
Thanks for the pointer. I installed and ran caniusepython3. It tells
me:
> Finding and checking dependencies ...
>
An article by Brett Cannon that I thought might be of interest
http://nothingbutsnark.svbtle.com/my-view-on-the-current-state-of-python-3
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