Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-13 Thread Michael F. Stemper
On 2018-02-10 16:40, Chris Angelico wrote: On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 8:52 AM, Chris Green wrote: Michael F. Stemper wrote: On 2018-02-09 13:37, Chris Green wrote: Use ssh (is that available at worK?) to connect from work to home Your ISP provides that capability? I'm surprised. I'm w

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-11 Thread Michael F. Stemper
On 2018-02-09 13:37, Chris Green wrote: Alternative approach, what I do:- Run a text mode (but very capable and mouse aware) newsreader on my home system, read news locally using that. Use ssh (is that available at worK?) to connect from work to home Your ISP provides that cap

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-11 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 8:52 AM, Chris Green wrote: > Michael F. Stemper wrote: >> On 2018-02-09 13:37, Chris Green wrote: >> >> > Alternative approach, what I do:- >> > >> > Run a text mode (but very capable and mouse aware) newsreader on >> > my home system, read news locally using th

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-10 Thread Chris Green
Michael F. Stemper wrote: > On 2018-02-09 13:37, Chris Green wrote: > > > Alternative approach, what I do:- > > > > Run a text mode (but very capable and mouse aware) newsreader on > > my home system, read news locally using that. > > > > Use ssh (is that available at worK?) to c

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-10 Thread mm0fmf
On 09/02/2018 21:05, codewiz...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 2:48:17 PM UTC-5, Chris Green wrote: codew...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 7:15:16 PM UTC-5, pyotr filipivich wrote: [snip] Those of us who do not use google-groups may not notice the

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 09 February 2018 23:44:54 Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Fri, 09 Feb 2018 17:30:57 -0800, codewizard wrote: > > Regardless of what the policies are and how well they're enforced, > > if the mailing list is cut off from GG, I will stop reading it. > > There is *absolutely nothing* we can do

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-09 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, 09 Feb 2018 17:30:57 -0800, codewizard wrote: > Regardless of what the policies are and how well they're enforced, if > the mailing list is cut off from GG, I will stop reading it. There is *absolutely nothing* we can do about that. Google doesn't listen to us, and the suggestion that we

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-09 Thread codewizard
On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 6:45:18 PM UTC-5, Richard Damon wrote: > On 2/9/18 6:19 PM, codew...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 5:03:45 PM UTC-5, Richard Damon wrote: > >> On 2/9/18 4:12 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > >>> On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 8:05 AM, wrote: > On Frid

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-09 Thread Richard Damon
On 2/9/18 6:19 PM, codewiz...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 5:03:45 PM UTC-5, Richard Damon wrote: On 2/9/18 4:12 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 8:05 AM, wrote: On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 2:48:17 PM UTC-5, Chris Green wrote: codew...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-09 Thread codewizard
On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 5:03:45 PM UTC-5, Richard Damon wrote: > On 2/9/18 4:12 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 8:05 AM, wrote: > >> On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 2:48:17 PM UTC-5, Chris Green wrote: > >>> codew...@gmail.com wrote: > On Saturday, February 3, 201

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-09 Thread Richard Damon
On 2/9/18 4:12 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 8:05 AM, wrote: On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 2:48:17 PM UTC-5, Chris Green wrote: codew...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 7:15:16 PM UTC-5, pyotr filipivich wrote: [snip] Those of us who do not us

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-09 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 8:05 AM, wrote: > On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 2:48:17 PM UTC-5, Chris Green wrote: >> codew...@gmail.com wrote: >> > On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 7:15:16 PM UTC-5, pyotr filipivich wrote: >> > > [snip] >> > > Those of us who do not use google-groups may not

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-09 Thread codewizard
On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 2:48:17 PM UTC-5, Chris Green wrote: > codew...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 7:15:16 PM UTC-5, pyotr filipivich wrote: > > > [snip] > > > Those of us who do not use google-groups may not notice the loss > > > of the google groupies. >

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-09 Thread Chris Green
codewiz...@gmail.com wrote: > On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 7:15:16 PM UTC-5, pyotr filipivich wrote: > > [snip] > > Those of us who do not use google-groups may not notice the loss > > of the google groupies. > > I use GG to read comp.lang.python because of the following combination >

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-09 Thread codewizard
On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 7:15:16 PM UTC-5, pyotr filipivich wrote: > [snip] > Those of us who do not use google-groups may not notice the loss > of the google groupies. I use GG to read comp.lang.python because of the following combination of factors. I would definitely be happier

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-09 Thread Tim Golden
On 09/02/2018 15:37, Chris Green wrote: Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Fri, 09 Feb 2018 12:45:29 +, Chris Green wrote: Mark Lawrence wrote: [...] Please don't waste your time with the gmane website. Just point any (semi-)decent mail client like Thunderbird at news.gmane.org and you've Su

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-09 Thread Chris Green
Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Fri, 09 Feb 2018 12:45:29 +, Chris Green wrote: > > > Mark Lawrence wrote: > [...] > >> Please don't waste your time with the gmane website. Just point any > >> (semi-)decent mail client like Thunderbird at news.gmane.org and you've > > > > Surely you mean NNTP/

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-09 Thread Jim
On 02/09/2018 08:07 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Fri, 09 Feb 2018 12:45:29 +, Chris Green wrote: Mark Lawrence wrote: [...] Please don't waste your time with the gmane website. Just point any (semi-)decent mail client like Thunderbird at news.gmane.org and you've Surely you mean NNTP

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-09 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, 09 Feb 2018 12:45:29 +, Chris Green wrote: > Mark Lawrence wrote: [...] >> Please don't waste your time with the gmane website. Just point any >> (semi-)decent mail client like Thunderbird at news.gmane.org and you've > > Surely you mean NNTP/Usenet client. That's what he said :-)

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-09 Thread Chris Green
Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 09/02/18 11:23, John Ladasky wrote: > > > > I haven't visited GMane in a few years, but I found it difficult to > > navigate. > In particular, I found searching to be cumbersome. Weren't the archives > broken into 30-day blocks? > > > > I just tried GMane again two

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-09 Thread Wolfgang Maier
On 02/09/2018 12:23 PM, John Ladasky wrote: On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 12:50:16 AM UTC-8, Tim Golden wrote: Gmane offers a newsgroup interface to the mailing list I haven't visited GMane in a few years, but I found it difficult to navigate. In particular, I found searching to be cumberso

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-09 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 09/02/18 11:23, John Ladasky wrote: I haven't visited GMane in a few years, but I found it difficult to navigate. In particular, I found searching to be cumbersome. Weren't the archives broken into 30-day blocks? I just tried GMane again two minutes ago. I can't confirm my recollections

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-09 Thread John Ladasky
On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 12:50:16 AM UTC-8, Tim Golden wrote: [snip and rearrange] > So dropping GG altogether would probably not add very much, as we're > generally blocking undesirable posts from there and we'd rather not > block genuine posts which happen to be made through the relativ

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-09 Thread Tim Golden
On 09/02/2018 05:00, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Thu, 08 Feb 2018 23:40:57 +, Mark Lawrence wrote: I don't see any spam in my inbox as I read on gmane, I'm pointing out the disgraceful state of gg and why it should be dropped as it's less than useless. Who is it that you think should "drop"

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-08 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, 08 Feb 2018 23:40:57 +, Mark Lawrence wrote: > I don't see any spam in my inbox as I read on gmane, I'm pointing out > the disgraceful state of gg and why it should be dropped as it's less > than useless. Who is it that you think should "drop" Google Groups? If you mean individual pe

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-08 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 08/02/18 23:33, Chris Angelico wrote: The PSF doesn't *need* to take on Google, because there are other newsgroup hosting sites that have less spam. Switch to one of those, and voila, less spam in your inbox. ChrisA I don't see any spam in my inbox as I read on gmane, I'm pointing out th

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-08 Thread Chris Angelico
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2018-02-08 Thread breamoreboy
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Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-08 Thread mm0fmf
On 08/02/2018 17:36, Gilmeh Serda wrote: On Sat, 03 Feb 2018 04:33:36 +1200, breamoreboy wrote: When trying to access comp.lang.idl-pvwave, a message is now displayed, stating that the group owner needs to remove the spam, and can then apply to Google in order to have access reinstated. Just

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-08 Thread Larry Martell
On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 12:36 PM, Gilmeh Serda wrote: > On Sat, 03 Feb 2018 04:33:36 +1200, breamoreboy wrote: > >>> When trying to access comp.lang.idl-pvwave, a message is now displayed, >> stating that the group owner needs to remove the spam, and can then >> apply to Google in order to have acc