Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS vs ArcGIS in Education and Practice

2016-12-16 Thread Brent Wood
Hi, I agree that most "GIS jobs" are after ESRI expertise. However, I think you have answered yourself - many universities offer GIS classes. Based on donated ESRI software to create market dominance. Many other disciplines, especially in environmental science also run GIS classes with a

Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS vs ArcGIS in Education and Practice

2016-12-16 Thread Lene Fischer
r 2016 20:08 Til: qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org Emne: [Qgis-user] QGIS vs ArcGIS in Education and Practice Dear List, I was asked to give a 5 days international GIS training course at the university and proposed to do it with QGIS. The program leader finally insisted on doing it with Ar

Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS vs ArcGIS in Education and Practice

2016-12-16 Thread Innisfree McKinnon
Hello again, Many, if not the majority of university students in GIS classes are not going to end up with GIS as their main career focus. The vast majority of my students are environmental science majors who are going to end up working in government positions that require some GIS. So yes, lots of

Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS vs ArcGIS in Education and Practice

2016-12-15 Thread Nyall Dawson
On 16 December 2016 at 08:38, Nicolas Cadieux wrote: > Hi, > > This is a good question! My answer would be that students have a better > chance of having a job if the learn GIS and not a software. +1 to that. To put it bluntly, I think ANY GIS practitioner who can

Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS vs ArcGIS in Education and Practice

2016-12-15 Thread Innisfree McKinnon
This is an interesting discussion. I teach GIS classes at a small university in the U.S. and while I completely agree with the concept of teaching spatial concepts and not the software, in practice, this distinction doesn't eliminate the need to choose in a university setting. In practice GIS is

Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS vs ArcGIS in Education and Practice

2016-12-15 Thread Nicolas Cadieux
Hi, This is a good question! My answer would be that students have a better chance of having a job if the learn GIS and not a software. The software is only a tool! If they have an ArcGIS licence at the university and can use it year round with the university, they could learn with that. My

Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS vs ArcGIS in Education and Practice

2016-12-15 Thread Erik Meerburg
Markus, Imho, especially at a university you shouldn't teach specific software at all. Teach the students spatial thinking, generic geospatial tools and how (and why!) they work, knowing how to tackle a problem with (any) GIS, and leave the software choice open to the students, where you as a

Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS vs ArcGIS in Education and Practice

2016-12-15 Thread Blumentrath, Stefan
20:07 An: qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org Betreff: [Qgis-user] QGIS vs ArcGIS in Education and Practice Dear List, I was asked to give a 5 days international GIS training course at the university and proposed to do it with QGIS. The program leader finally insisted on doing it with ArcGIS arguing

Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS vs ArcGIS in Education and Practice

2016-12-15 Thread Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)
All, I think a better plan of attack is to say that they (students) need proficiency in multiple pieces of software, both open and proprietary in nature. Each piece of software, no matter who makes/sells it, has it’s pros and cons for use. Making students aware of the options is the bigger

Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS vs ArcGIS in Education and Practice

2016-12-15 Thread Michael Treglia
In my training, one thing I found immensely valuable, was even a small amount of cross-training. For example, if the course is primarily given with Arc, showing students how easily similar operations can be conducted in a differnent tool - your course might give 'proficiency' in a main tool of

[Qgis-user] QGIS vs ArcGIS in Education and Practice

2016-12-15 Thread Markus Weidenbach
Dear List, I was asked to give a 5 days international GIS training course at the university and proposed to do it with QGIS. The program leader finally insisted on doing it with ArcGIS arguing that the students had better chances to find a job knowing ArcGIS rather than QGIS. This