Re: [ql-users] new hard disk
>OK, I give up. How do you get Windows XP to format a new second hard >disk? The answer is simple if not very intuitive. Windows hides the Device manger because ;yer casual user' can easily destroy the system from there. Go to the start menu, right click anywhere and choose 'properties', In the Start Menu tab choose 'advanced', In that choose 'advanced' again. Scroll down to 'System Administrative Tools' and choose 'Display on the All programs menu and the start menu'. Click OK. Then go to the start menu choose 'Administrative Tools', Choose Computer Management, Choose Disk Management You will see you unformatted and uninitiated .Drive there. First Initiate it and then format or partition it. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] New here....
Tobias Fröschle writes: Welcome back to the fold! As you may have detected, we havent been idle while you were away! The only reason development has slowed is the much reduced number of QLers. For many of us the QL is very much alive and kicking. <> > What I'm basically interested in right now is how I can revive my old > collection of software, most importantly Text87, which is by far the > most expensive piece of my software collection. It just doesn't seem to > like the QPC. Any hints on that, maybe? This is one of the things I cant help with, as Im not a Text87 user. However, help is on its way, as this is a question that has been asked here a number of times before and, as far as Im aware, has been largely resolved. As its something thats been on my mind recently, there is one piece of advice I have for someone in your situation: While you have your QL up and running, if you havent already done so, backup any old microdrives and floppies to hard disk and CD/DVD as soon as possible! Happy QLing! Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] New here....
Gents, (Ladies?) I just recently joined the list and wanted to shortly introduce myself... I just recently browsed ye olde this' and thats in the basement and came across a box of my old QL stuff buried under 10 years of dust. I couldn't stand it for long and now he's back on the desk again: Sinclair QL, basically brand new (has been bought at that time as an occasion for next to nothing "just in case"), MGG, Sandy Q-Board and, after browsing the internet for what might have been left over from the QL community, now accompanied by a brand new QPC installation on my laptop. Still lurking in the box is a Miracle QXL board, which has long lost its fellow PC with the ISA slots. Let's see if I can find a new replacement. Please be warned: I might possibly pester you with questions on what has changed during my 10 years absence from "the scene" during the next weeks or so. Something about my background: I earn a living from daily juggling with "real computers" with a big scandinavian mobile phone company (no, the other one) in Germany. When I used to be an active QL-er i was mainly interested in programming in 68k assembler and C, mostly for the pointer interface which was, as far as I remember, pretty new to the scene back then (One of my last software purchases for the QL was QPAC2, which was brand-new at that time) What I'm basically interested in right now is how I can revive my old collection of software, most importantly Text87, which is by far the most expensive piece of my software collection. It just doesn't seem to like the QPC. Any hints on that, maybe? Thanks Tobias ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] new hard disk
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Tubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >While you are venting your spleen at Seattle, >think a little deeper, how could you afford to >buy such a large HDD ? How come I was offered >1Gig RAM for £50 yesterday - the half meg >Expanderram I got in 1980 cost £70 ! ! ! ! >The reason is Gates ever larger operating systems >have created the market for hardware thet bulk >production has brought the price crashing down. > >No I am not an out and out lover of MS, but >credit where it is due, and gratitude. You are right there ... and it was predicted in the computer press around 3 years ago that the price of hard drives, RAM memory, etc would have to drop drastically to make new systems anywhere near affordable. Of course, the other drivers have been the increased use of digital images, sound files and video ... which all eat up those new acres of electronic space. Just a few of these modern files would fill up an entire "old" hard drive of moderate size ... :-( I guess, one day, that there will either be individual storage media, or some centralised storage system, where size will not matter ... it will just about be infinite. The centralised idea is whereby we all stop buying our own individual copies of an OS and the applications for it, and just log in somewhere and use it as and when we like. Just paying a fee, somehow, and be more like the way that we currently access TV and Radio. At work, with a large network, it is a bit like that already. I just log in on any computer anywhere on the site with a roving profile, and use the applications, have a large enough storage available not to have to worry about it, and the OS if free to use because it is provided by the employer. Plus I don't have to concern myself with and maintenance, etc. -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Incommunicado + Message for Rich Mellor
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:56:43 +0100, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I arrived back from Hove on Monday night to discover my > telephone line is dead. At the moment we cannot trace the > fault and the earliest date for repair is Thursday afternoon. > > This means I have no email access for a few days. I can > still be reached via my landline as BT are redirecting the > calls. Oh dear that is not good news. > MESSAGE FOR RICH MELLOR > > I managed to get a boxed copy of Supercharge at Hove. > Complete with manual, lenslock and disc. Would your client > still be interested? All I need is payments for post and > packing. Yes please I am sure he would - do you want to post it to me. -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services URL:http://www.rwapsoftware.co.uk URL:http://www.rwapservices.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] new hard disk
Dilwyn Jones wrote: > OK, I give up. How do you get Windows XP to format a new second hard > disk? > I uninstalled the old drive D:\, switched off, restarted, the New > Hardware Wizard found the new drive and it's now listed as drive D:\ > in Device Manager. > Now, how do I format it? It doesn't appear in My Computer etc. - > normally you can right click on a drive name and get the context menu > to offer a format command. > It's almost as if it's not recognised because it's not formatted, but > of course that gives a catch 22 of not being able to format a new hard > disk because > it's not already formatted, so I guess I'm missing some simple course > of action here??? > Also tried from DOS command line, FORMAT D: just gives "drive not > recognised" error > F***ing Windoze! (That stood for Flaming, by the way, in case anyone > thought otherwise!) > This new 250GB drive is to be the home for all my QL stuff, a full > backup of drive C:\ and my music (that way Windoze can do what it > likes with the C:\ drive.) didnt see anyone ask this, have you checked in the BIOS setup if the computer is seeing the new HD and is reporting its correct size?? On some PC's you need to get into the BIOS First, let it determine that there is a HD present, then save settings THEN Fdisk and most any other utility way of messing with the drive should work. MOST newly bought retail packeages HD's should be recognizable by winderze ONCE its allowed to see the drive I recall -- Paul Holmgren 2 57 300-C's in Indy Hoosier Corps L#6 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] new hard disk
At 09:27 17/04/2007, you wrote: >OK, I give up. How do you get Windows XP to format a new second hard >disk? > >I uninstalled the old drive D:\, switched off, restarted, the New >Hardware Wizard found the new drive and it's now listed as drive D:\ >in >Device Manager. > >Now, how do I format it? It doesn't appear in My Computer etc. - >normally you can right click on a drive name and get the context menu >to offer a format command. > >It's almost as if it's not recognised because it's not formatted, but >of course that gives a catch 22 of not being able to format a new hard >disk because >it's not already formatted, so I guess I'm missing some simple course >of action here??? > >Also tried from DOS command line, FORMAT D: just gives "drive not >recognised" error > >F***ing Windoze! (That stood for Flaming, by the way, in case anyone >thought otherwise!) You really can't blame MS or Uncle Bill if you don't bother with what is on your PC (XP I presume). Use the HELP provided - type Format into search box then Format basic volume:- this comes up :- " Notes * To open Computer Management, click Start, point to Settings, and then click Control Panel. Double-click Administrative Tools, and then double-click Computer Management. * In the console tree, click Disk Management. * [] Where? * Computer Management (Local) * Storage * Disk Management" This is OK first time, but if you ever want to change or resize partitions Windows is destructive of all data, much better is PowerQuest's Magic, moves the data as it works. While you are venting your spleen at Seattle, think a little deeper, how could you afford to buy such a large HDD ? How come I was offered 1Gig RAM for £50 yesterday - the half meg Expanderram I got in 1980 cost £70 ! ! ! ! The reason is Gates ever larger operating systems have created the market for hardware thet bulk production has brought the price crashing down. No I am not an out and out lover of MS, but credit where it is due, and gratitude. >(that way Windoze can do what it likes with the C:\ drive.) Now there I think you are right, I look on it as Bill's sandpit, let him play there and create and create his defrag-needing mess in one place. My first 'puter was a Grundy Newbrain, had two cassette ports, then the QL with 2 Mdvs and the convention of prog's on one and data the other. I have carried that logic to the PC. Partitions for each - Progs, Data, Install packages, Page/Swap file - a major cause and obstruction of defregging. Btw, if you dont wish ever to boot from the new drive wrap all volumes in and extended partition. >___ >QL-Users Mailing List >http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.5.1/764 - >Release Date: 17/04/2007 04:43 > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.5.1/764 - >Release Date: 17/04/2007 04:43 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.5.1/764 - Release Date: 17/04/2007 04:43 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] QL Wiki - New Theme
Just to let you know that the appearance of the QL Wiki has now been updated to take account of its theme!! Many thanks to Jimmy for all his hard work on the css. -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services URL:http://www.rwapsoftware.co.uk URL:http://www.rwapservices.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL, Spectrum, and PC
On 14 Apr 2007, at 22:38, Rick Chagouri-Brindle wrote: > >> You misunderstand the concept here. Operating systems move on and >> become >> more sophisticated. Most good ones move the software writers along >> with >> them. The users buy new versions which take advantage of the new >> facilities and the whole system moves forward. >> >> If you continually make the whole thing backwardly compatible people >> carry on using the old versions and nothing advances. This is the >> state >> we have arrived at. Some new features never get used which is both a >> shame and a rebuff for those who worked on the newer ideas. We >> need to >> move forwards. >> > Indeed, at some point an Operating System - like any other application > or process - will lose some elements of its compatibility with earlier > version/environments. It is simply the nature of how progress is > made. I personally am very pleased with the way SMSQE contains advances such as GD2 colours while still allowing the old colour system to work. My program TurboPTR, which produces windows for PE programs was amended to allow the new system to be used. It now will work either with mode 4 or the GD2 modes. Obviously programs have to be changed to use new facilities. One change I noticed which did stop some programs working related to free space. This required a change in The Editor for example. But this was minor. Another change, a long time ago, caused Perfection to stop in certain cases. This was traced to a faulty assumption in Perfection about register usage in one of the traps. The altered version of the OS was quite correct but set a different value in a register marked as "not preserved". Obviously such occurrences must be regarded as latent errors in the program, not incompatible changes in the OS. George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] new hard disk
>> This new 250GB drive is to be the home for all my QL stuff, a full >> backup of drive C:\ and my music (that way Windoze can do what it >> likes with the C:\ drive.) >> >> > In windows XP, right click on 'My Computer' (Either on the start > menu or > on the desktop if you have the icon there), from the menu click on > manage. A new window will appear, on the left click on Disk > Management, > there you'll see your new drive (probably without a partition), > right > click on the drive 'bar' on the right and select 'Create new > partition', > then follow the prompts. > > Your new drive will then be partitioned and formatted for you and > should > then be usable. Many thanks everyone who responded so quickly. After sending the original email, I dug out an old small capacity (40MB?) Qubide format hard disk I'd somehow managed not to throw away years ago and hooked this up. Both the FDISK & FORMAT programs and Disk Management managed to reformat this drive OK, so I went back to the new drive and tried again (having written down step by step how I got the old drive to format). Sadly, no joy. It seems all I can get out of the new drive is its identification string, I can't get it to work using either FDISK + FORMAT or from Disk Management. I'll get in touch with the supplier as it's probably DOA - it's advertised as a very quiet drive (Hitachi Deskstar) but it seems to get very noisy when the computer starts it up, probably an indication all is not well. Shame, I was looking forward to using my first day off since Easter to put all my QL software onto one single drive rather than being scattered between two hard disks and several CDs and DVDs etc. The PC presently has a 40GB and 80GB drives and I'd found it impossible to resist this 250GB drive for just 40 pounds. Must say one thing: having your day to day QL software in a single QXL.WIN makes it sooo easy to make a backup...just one file to copy in Windoze, whether it goes to a CD/DVD or to the second hard drive! -- Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] new hard disk
Sounds if it is not partitioned yet! Easiest way to o this is to - Right-click My Computer and select "Manage" - Select Disk Management You should then be shown your hard disks and have menu options to partition and/or format them. Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dilwyn Jones Sent: 17 April 2007 09:27 To: QL Users List Subject: [ql-users] new hard disk OK, I give up. How do you get Windows XP to format a new second hard disk? I uninstalled the old drive D:\, switched off, restarted, the New Hardware Wizard found the new drive and it's now listed as drive D:\ in Device Manager. Now, how do I format it? It doesn't appear in My Computer etc. - normally you can right click on a drive name and get the context menu to offer a format command. It's almost as if it's not recognised because it's not formatted, but of course that gives a catch 22 of not being able to format a new hard disk because it's not already formatted, so I guess I'm missing some simple course of action here??? Also tried from DOS command line, FORMAT D: just gives "drive not recognised" error F***ing Windoze! (That stood for Flaming, by the way, in case anyone thought otherwise!) This new 250GB drive is to be the home for all my QL stuff, a full backup of drive C:\ and my music (that way Windoze can do what it likes with the C:\ drive.) -- Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] new hard disk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Gilpin wrote: >>From the DOS Command line, have you tried "FDisk"? I think it is self > explanatory but be careful to format the right disk - Formatting your C > Drive would be disastrous. > > If in doubt, most basic DOS books will walk you through the procedure or the > Help facility in Windows (if you search "FDisk") will give you the info. > > Hope this helps, You have to ignore all these messages about the command line! XP does it from administrative tools, and the easiest route to that from "My COmputer" has already been described. This method is *so* much better than the old command line tools, as it would be very hard indeed to format the wrong disk (8-)# Laurence Reeves wrote a great scam program, for DOS (when that was *real* and not emulated). It looked just like a real format, including disk access. Tony - -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGJI4eM3RzOs8+btoRAgxqAJ0aERjBUd4rwBcmyqCje4RONE+HOACcDQpB 1xGnsmlu/oSQXckP/jL7Slw= =0yZ0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] new hard disk
>From the DOS Command line, have you tried "FDisk"? I think it is self explanatory but be careful to format the right disk - Formatting your C Drive would be disastrous. If in doubt, most basic DOS books will walk you through the procedure or the Help facility in Windows (if you search "FDisk") will give you the info. Hope this helps, John Gilpin. - Original Message - From: "Dilwyn Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "QL Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 9:27 AM Subject: [ql-users] new hard disk > OK, I give up. How do you get Windows XP to format a new second hard > disk? > > I uninstalled the old drive D:\, switched off, restarted, the New > Hardware Wizard found the new drive and it's now listed as drive D:\ > in > Device Manager. > > Now, how do I format it? It doesn't appear in My Computer etc. - > normally you can right click on a drive name and get the context menu > to offer a format command. > > It's almost as if it's not recognised because it's not formatted, but > of course that gives a catch 22 of not being able to format a new hard > disk because > it's not already formatted, so I guess I'm missing some simple course > of action here??? > > Also tried from DOS command line, FORMAT D: just gives "drive not > recognised" error > > F***ing Windoze! (That stood for Flaming, by the way, in case anyone > thought otherwise!) > > This new 250GB drive is to be the home for all my QL stuff, a full > backup of drive C:\ and my music (that way Windoze can do what it > likes with the C:\ drive.) > > -- > Dilwyn Jones > > > > > ___ > QL-Users Mailing List > http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Incommunicado + Message for Rich Mellor
I arrived back from Hove on Monday night to discover my telephone line is dead. At the moment we cannot trace the fault and the earliest date for repair is Thursday afternoon. This means I have no email access for a few days. I can still be reached via my landline as BT are redirecting the calls. MESSAGE FOR RICH MELLOR I managed to get a boxed copy of Supercharge at Hove. Complete with manual, lenslock and disc. Would your client still be interested? All I need is payments for post and packing. Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] new hard disk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dilwyn Jones scripsit:: > OK, I give up. How do you get Windows XP to format a new second hard > disk? > > I uninstalled the old drive D:\, switched off, restarted, the New > Hardware Wizard found the new drive and it's now listed as drive D:\ > in > Device Manager. > > Now, how do I format it? It doesn't appear in My Computer etc. - > normally you can right click on a drive name and get the context menu > to offer a format command. > > It's almost as if it's not recognised because it's not formatted, but > of course that gives a catch 22 of not being able to format a new hard > disk because > it's not already formatted, so I guess I'm missing some simple course > of action here??? > > Also tried from DOS command line, FORMAT D: just gives "drive not > recognised" error > > F***ing Windoze! (That stood for Flaming, by the way, in case anyone > thought otherwise!) > > This new 250GB drive is to be the home for all my QL stuff, a full > backup of drive C:\ and my music (that way Windoze can do what it > likes with the C:\ drive.) > Used to be that you must call a utility called FDISK.EXE from a DOS session (not a DOS box!). I do not know if XP is still the same kind of MS... The hard disk is present, but without partition, the OS cannot use it. So, make your partition (even a single big one), then format it/them. One step at a time. FDISK is not user-friendly, if you can use something else (like partition-magic), it can be easier. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGJIfaT1+Eqr5j9JcRArbFAKDAe2qzq/88jrWlbBA0xadn1H3PyQCeLYXz gFOPaKa5I0etxtWy1mjGk4M= =jhOx -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] new hard disk
Dilwyn Jones wrote: > OK, I give up. How do you get Windows XP to format a new second hard > disk? > > I uninstalled the old drive D:\, switched off, restarted, the New > Hardware Wizard found the new drive and it's now listed as drive D:\ > in > Device Manager. > > Now, how do I format it? It doesn't appear in My Computer etc. - > normally you can right click on a drive name and get the context menu > to offer a format command. > > It's almost as if it's not recognised because it's not formatted, but > of course that gives a catch 22 of not being able to format a new hard > disk because > it's not already formatted, so I guess I'm missing some simple course > of action here??? > > Also tried from DOS command line, FORMAT D: just gives "drive not > recognised" error > > F***ing Windoze! (That stood for Flaming, by the way, in case anyone > thought otherwise!) > > This new 250GB drive is to be the home for all my QL stuff, a full > backup of drive C:\ and my music (that way Windoze can do what it > likes with the C:\ drive.) > > In windows XP, right click on 'My Computer' (Either on the start menu or on the desktop if you have the icon there), from the menu click on manage. A new window will appear, on the left click on Disk Management, there you'll see your new drive (probably without a partition), right click on the drive 'bar' on the right and select 'Create new partition', then follow the prompts. Your new drive will then be partitioned and formatted for you and should then be usable. Hope that helps! Phil ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] new hard disk
OK, I give up. How do you get Windows XP to format a new second hard disk? I uninstalled the old drive D:\, switched off, restarted, the New Hardware Wizard found the new drive and it's now listed as drive D:\ in Device Manager. Now, how do I format it? It doesn't appear in My Computer etc. - normally you can right click on a drive name and get the context menu to offer a format command. It's almost as if it's not recognised because it's not formatted, but of course that gives a catch 22 of not being able to format a new hard disk because it's not already formatted, so I guess I'm missing some simple course of action here??? Also tried from DOS command line, FORMAT D: just gives "drive not recognised" error F***ing Windoze! (That stood for Flaming, by the way, in case anyone thought otherwise!) This new 250GB drive is to be the home for all my QL stuff, a full backup of drive C:\ and my music (that way Windoze can do what it likes with the C:\ drive.) -- Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
