Re: [Ql-Users] TYPE_IN

[Lee Privett via Ql-Users]

Thanks guys and especially to Michael, and to his last few questions.
Firstly I placed the query (cut down) to avoid a lengthy and possibly
boring explanation
I am periodically (while I can) in pre-production of a lengthy project that
I have dabbled in over the last two years and as I think about aspects of
the project, mini projects pop into mind. These result in functions or
procedures that I test out and if useful, I publish in QUANTA.

One such project is so large that the programming for it has to be fairly
rigorously planned out, which amongst other things includes plenty of REM
statements.
So I am writing a procedure called AutoREM which asks two questions, what
line to start at (An) and what it is all about (Final$), it will then
create REM statements and eventually DEF PROC and END PROC lines
automatically, all within the SMSQ/e environment. Specifically at the
moment QPC2. Although not compiled a version of this will be used in the
"big project" which will be.

I hope that satisfies your intrigueness (not a real word) Michael.

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On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Michael Bulford via Ql-Users <
ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>
> I am hoping now to explain what is going on.  First, here is some code
> that does work ..
>
> 100 DIM Top$  (100) : Top$   = "REMark " & FILL$( "*"  ,20)
> 110 DIM Final$(100) : Final$ = "REMark " & FILL$("text",20)
> 120 An = 2
> 1920 TYPE_IN An&":"&CHR$(10)
> 1930 TYPE_IN (An+1)&Top$&CHR$(10)
> 1932 TYPE_IN (An+2)&Final$&CHR$(10)
> 1940 TYPE_IN (An+3)&Top$&CHR$(10)
> 1950 TYPE_IN "CLS#2:LIST"&CHR$(10)
> 1960 PRINT #0,"Program completed successfully"
>
> After running the above code, you may notice that the “completed” message
> does not appear.
> To explain why, we have to consider how this code works.  If this code is
> compiled, then SuperBASIC will act immediately upon each of the TYPED_IN
> commands.  Under the Interpreter, they will not be acted upon, but will get
> to be stored in #0’s buffer.  After the “completed” message gets printed to
> #0, the code comes to an end, and the SuperBASIC cursor comes back to
> life.  The contents of the #0 buffer then gets entered into the command
> line, and will be acted upon, scrolling the “completed” message out of the
> way.
>
> Now consider what can happen if we change the first line to read
> FILL$(“*”,60).  Running the code again with this larger figure will lead to
> it “locking up”, with nothing apparently happening.  What has happened is
> that #0’s buffer has become full, and it is waiting there for some
> characters to be removed, which never happens.  The only thing to do is to
> press Ctrl-SPACE and Ctrl-c to abort.
>
> As long as the buffer length of 128 bytes is not exceeded during a
> TYPE_IN, all should be well.
> Each TYPE_IN will need to be made separately, with the QL stopping, then
> continuing.
> The need to STOP is necessary to force the #0 buffer to empty its contents.
> Notice that we do not STOP if COMPILED, as doing that would remove the
> task.
> Here is the same code as above with these amendments …
>
> 100 DIM Top$  (100) : Top$   = "REMark " & FILL$( "*"  ,60)
> 110 DIM Final$(100) : Final$ = "REMark " & FILL$("text",60)
> 120 An = 2
> 1920 TYPE_IN An&":"&CHR$(10)   :IF NOT COMPILED:TYPE_IN
> "CONTINUE"&CHR$(10):STOP
> 1930 TYPE_IN (An+1)&Top$&CHR$(10)  :IF NOT COMPILED:TYPE_IN
> "CONTINUE"&CHR$(10):STOP
> 1932 TYPE_IN (An+2)&Final$&CHR$(10):IF NOT COMPILED:TYPE_IN
> "CONTINUE"&CHR$(10):STOP
> 1940 TYPE_IN (An+3)&Top$&CHR$(10)  :IF NOT COMPILED:TYPE_IN
> "CONTINUE"&CHR$(10):STOP
> 1950 TYPE_IN "CLS#2:LIST"&CHR$(10) :IF NOT COMPILED:TYPE_IN
> "CONTINUE"&CHR$(10):STOP
> 1960 PRINT #0,"Program completed successfully"
>
> The above code works as expected in SMSQ/E.  It should not work under QDOS
> as after entering any new line in the code, QDOS will lose its place and
> would not be able to continue.  For QDOS it is best to compile the code.
> Another point to bear in mind is that any line TYPED_IN with invalid syntax
> will lead to the SuperBASIC cursor being re-entered to enable the faulty
> line to be edited.  There is a simple way to cope with this condition, by
> starting each TYPE_IN with a CHR$(27) - the Escape key.
> This kind of code can be far easier to write and get working if it is
> compiled with Turbo.  After any TYPE_IN to SuperBASIC, Turbo could wait in
> the background, in a loop, monitoring the SuperBASIC cursor position, and
> determining whether the typed-in line was successful or not.  This
> arrangement would allow the user to correct the command line and press
> ENTER.  Only when everything is okay could Turbo decide to exit the loop
> and continue.  If the 128-character limit is too restrictive, one could use
> a temporary MERGE file instead of using TYPE_IN.
>
> This discussion would be more entertaining if we had more details of what
> is trying to be achieved.
> What is being used? - The QL, Q-emuLator or QPC2? - also is this
> compile

Re: [Ql-Users] TYPE_IN

[Lee Privett via Ql-Users]

Yes the string is about 60 characters long which is probably why it fails
on the third TYPE_IN

tried using Pause to no effect :(

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On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 12:38 PM, Wolfgang Lenerz via Ql-Users <
ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have a slight problem with TYPE_IN
>>
>> Using it to put some commands in #0, works well in an instance until I
>> reach what appears to be a maximum set of characters, where the QL just
>> hangs.
>>
>> e.g.
>>
>> 1920  TYPE_IN An&":"&CHR$(10)
>> 1930  TYPE_IN (An+1)&Top$&CHR$(10)
>> 1932  TYPE_IN (An+2)&Final$&CHR$(10)
>> 1940  TYPE_IN (An+3)&Top$&CHR$(10)
>>
>>
>> An is an integer
>> Final$ is just text
>> Top$ is a string of asterisks
>>
>> it locks up displaying halfway through 1940
>>
>> Is there a buffer I can clear after using TYPE_IN?
>>
>
> How long i the string in line 194?
>
> IIRC, the Ql's keyboard buffer is 128 bytes long... You cannot increase
> this, AFAIK.
>
> I don't think you can clear this.
> Perhaps a pause after the earlier TYPE_In instructions will leave the
> system time to clear it.
>
>
>
> HTH
>
> Wolfgang
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[Ql-Users] TYPE_IN

[Lee Privett via Ql-Users]

Fellow QL'ers

I have a slight problem with TYPE_IN

Using it to put some commands in #0, works well in an instance until I
reach what appears to be a maximum set of characters, where the QL just
hangs.

e.g.

1920  TYPE_IN An&":"&CHR$(10)
1930  TYPE_IN (An+1)&Top$&CHR$(10)
1932  TYPE_IN (An+2)&Final$&CHR$(10)
1940  TYPE_IN (An+3)&Top$&CHR$(10)


An is an integer
Final$ is just text
Top$ is a string of asterisks

it locks up displaying halfway through 1940

Is there a buffer I can clear after using TYPE_IN?

or can I increase the length of the number of characters TYPE_IN can use?

Many thanks in anticipation

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Re: [Ql-Users] Q68 Advanced Notice

[Lee Privett via Ql-Users]

Put me down for one
Regards Lee
On Sat, 2 Sep 2017 at 09:52, Derek Stewart via Ql-Users <
ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:

> Q68 Advanced Notice
> ---
>
> PCB Photograph available at:
>
> http://qlforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2082#p18729
>
> Features:
>
> - Operating System: SMSQ/E
> - CPU: 68000 compatible
> - Speed: 40Mhz
> - RAM: 32 MB
> - SDHC: Two fullsize slots, hot plugging
> - QXL.WIN style storage container format
> - Keyboard and mouse: Combined PS/2 Connection, scrollwheel support
> - VGA: 1024x768 VESA for flatscreen, CRT or HDMI converter
> - Graphic modes:
>  -  256x256 QL Mode 8
>  -  512x256 QL Mode 4
>  -  512x256 Q60 65536 colour
>  - 1024x512 Q60 65536 colour
>  - 1024x768 QL Mode 4
>  -  512x384 Q60 65536 colour
> - Serial port
> - Stereo sampled sound, 3.5 mm output socket
> - Buffered real time clock
> - I2C interface
> - Ethernet, no software support yet
> - QL style LED colours
> - PCB Size: 8x10 cm
> - Recommended power supply: 5V @ 1A
> - Silent operation, no fans or heat
> - Case: Optional
>
> Available: Mid October 2017
> Price: To be decided
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Re: [Ql-Users] TURBO and testing it exists

[Lee Privett via Ql-Users]

I have also been able to get this method to work with TURBO ptr extensions
as well by using the following

220 IF ACR<>0 THEN
230  PRINT "Done":STOP
240 ELSE
250  LRESPR win2_tptr_ext
260 END IF


Lee

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On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 12:22 PM, Lee Privett  wrote:

> Thanks for all the suggestions guys,
>
> 220 IF TK_VER$<>"" THEN
> 230  PRINT "Done":STOP
> 240 ELSE
> 250  LRESPR win8_turbo_sms_code
> 260 END IF
>
> this works exactly how I wanted it to, so 🎵 to Tobias.
>
> Many thanks to you all
>
> Lee
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Lee
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 11:47 AM, Tobias Fröschle via Ql-Users <
> ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:
>
>> Lee,
>>
>> in case your question is really only Turbo Toolkit specific, you can very
>> well do away with a much simpler solution than WHEN ERRor clauses:
>>
>> 1000 IF TK_VER$ <> ""
>> 1010   REM do whatever you want to do when Turbo Toolkit is loaded
>> 1020 ELSE
>> 1030  REM Do whatever you want to do if it is not loaded
>> 1030 END IF
>>
>> This relies on the fact that the interpreter will interpret TK_VER$ as a
>> FUNCTION returning a string in case the toolkit is loaded, and an unset
>> string variable in case it is not. And unset string variables are by
>> convention "empty".
>>
>> Tobias
>>
>>
>> > Am 17.08.2017 um 12:37 schrieb Lee Privett via Ql-Users <
>> ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com>:
>> >
>> > Perhaps I should clarify this a little further.
>> >
>> > Using Q-emuLator, my boot first loads SMSQ_QEM and restarts with the
>> same
>> > boot, I will always do this or use QPC2, I am not really looking for a
>> BBQL
>> > solution as it is development for other things.
>> >
>> > Where this
>> >
>> > [code]IF VER$<>"HBA" THEN
>> >   LRESPR "WIN8_SMSQ_QEM"
>> > END IF[/code]
>> >
>> > loads SMSQ and fails the second time around (as designed, so all good)
>> as
>> > the same boot loads again, I then load (still in the same boot) the
>> > TURBO_SMS_CODE appropriate for SMSQ based system.
>> >
>> > This is all fine, however, I am developing the boot for different setups
>> > and change them a lot depending on what project I decide to work on.
>> >
>> > This means re-running the boot several times in the one session to test
>> > what I am trying to do and I don't want to keep using up space re-LRESPR
>> > the TURBO toolkit.
>> > Using another toolkit to test for the existence of a keyword in the
>> TURBO
>> > toolkit would then mean using another method to test for that additional
>> > Toolkit, a catch 22.
>> >
>> > So I may try the WHEN_ERR method as soon as I find the documentation on
>> it.
>> >
>> > Lee
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Lee
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Derek Stewart via Ql-Users <
>> > ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi Tobias,
>> >>
>> >> The WHEN solution is great, but on some version of QODS, the WHEN ERRor
>> >> did not work.
>> >>
>> >> There are some people still using AH,JM, roms which may have problems
>> with
>> >> WHEN ERRor
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> Derek
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 17/08/17 10:39, Tobias Fröschle via Ql-Users wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> After I sent this, I realised a bit of explanation might be in order,
>> as
>> >>> WHEN ERRor is not so well-known:
>> >>>
>> >>> When the interpreter passes a WHEN ERRor/END WHEN pair during normal
>> >>> program execution, it doesn't do anything with the commands inside the
>> >>> clause but remembering "I should do this in case an error occurs".
>> So, line
>> >>> 1020 is not executed if no error occurs in line 1050. But in case
>> there is
>> >>> an error (the interpreter choking on the MANIFEST statement it
>> doesn't know
>> >>> when TT is not loaded), line 1020 is executed, telling us TT is not
>> loaded.
>> >>>
>> >>> After 1020 was executed, the program is continued at the point /after/
>> >>> the error o

Re: [Ql-Users] TURBO and testing it exists

[Lee Privett via Ql-Users]

Thanks for all the suggestions guys,

220 IF TK_VER$<>"" THEN
230  PRINT "Done":STOP
240 ELSE
250  LRESPR win8_turbo_sms_code
260 END IF

this works exactly how I wanted it to, so 🎵 to Tobias.

Many thanks to you all

Lee








Lee




On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 11:47 AM, Tobias Fröschle via Ql-Users <
ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:

> Lee,
>
> in case your question is really only Turbo Toolkit specific, you can very
> well do away with a much simpler solution than WHEN ERRor clauses:
>
> 1000 IF TK_VER$ <> ""
> 1010   REM do whatever you want to do when Turbo Toolkit is loaded
> 1020 ELSE
> 1030  REM Do whatever you want to do if it is not loaded
> 1030 END IF
>
> This relies on the fact that the interpreter will interpret TK_VER$ as a
> FUNCTION returning a string in case the toolkit is loaded, and an unset
> string variable in case it is not. And unset string variables are by
> convention "empty".
>
> Tobias
>
>
> > Am 17.08.2017 um 12:37 schrieb Lee Privett via Ql-Users <
> ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com>:
> >
> > Perhaps I should clarify this a little further.
> >
> > Using Q-emuLator, my boot first loads SMSQ_QEM and restarts with the same
> > boot, I will always do this or use QPC2, I am not really looking for a
> BBQL
> > solution as it is development for other things.
> >
> > Where this
> >
> > [code]IF VER$<>"HBA" THEN
> >   LRESPR "WIN8_SMSQ_QEM"
> > END IF[/code]
> >
> > loads SMSQ and fails the second time around (as designed, so all good) as
> > the same boot loads again, I then load (still in the same boot) the
> > TURBO_SMS_CODE appropriate for SMSQ based system.
> >
> > This is all fine, however, I am developing the boot for different setups
> > and change them a lot depending on what project I decide to work on.
> >
> > This means re-running the boot several times in the one session to test
> > what I am trying to do and I don't want to keep using up space re-LRESPR
> > the TURBO toolkit.
> > Using another toolkit to test for the existence of a keyword in the TURBO
> > toolkit would then mean using another method to test for that additional
> > Toolkit, a catch 22.
> >
> > So I may try the WHEN_ERR method as soon as I find the documentation on
> it.
> >
> > Lee
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Lee
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Derek Stewart via Ql-Users <
> > ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Tobias,
> >>
> >> The WHEN solution is great, but on some version of QODS, the WHEN ERRor
> >> did not work.
> >>
> >> There are some people still using AH,JM, roms which may have problems
> with
> >> WHEN ERRor
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Derek
> >>
> >>
> >> On 17/08/17 10:39, Tobias Fröschle via Ql-Users wrote:
> >>
> >>> After I sent this, I realised a bit of explanation might be in order,
> as
> >>> WHEN ERRor is not so well-known:
> >>>
> >>> When the interpreter passes a WHEN ERRor/END WHEN pair during normal
> >>> program execution, it doesn't do anything with the commands inside the
> >>> clause but remembering "I should do this in case an error occurs". So,
> line
> >>> 1020 is not executed if no error occurs in line 1050. But in case
> there is
> >>> an error (the interpreter choking on the MANIFEST statement it doesn't
> know
> >>> when TT is not loaded), line 1020 is executed, telling us TT is not
> loaded.
> >>>
> >>> After 1020 was executed, the program is continued at the point /after/
> >>> the error occurred.
> >>>
> >>> The empty WHEN ERRor clause (1060-1070) simply de-activates error
> >>> processing back to "normal".
> >>>
> >>> Line 1080 will thus have the variable TurboTkLoaded to 1, if 1050 was
> >>> executed without a problem, and set to 0 in case there was an error.
> >>> Because we have made sure line 1050 is the only line that can be
> executed
> >>> while error processing is active, we clearly know the only problem in
> 1050
> >>> can only be "bad name". So it is important to pick a "test command"
> from
> >>> the toolkit you are testing for that cannot choke on a different error
> than
> >>> "bad name". MANIFEST is pretty ide

Re: [Ql-Users] TURBO and testing it exists

[Lee Privett via Ql-Users]

Perhaps I should clarify this a little further.

Using Q-emuLator, my boot first loads SMSQ_QEM and restarts with the same
boot, I will always do this or use QPC2, I am not really looking for a BBQL
solution as it is development for other things.

Where this

[code]IF VER$<>"HBA" THEN
   LRESPR "WIN8_SMSQ_QEM"
END IF[/code]

loads SMSQ and fails the second time around (as designed, so all good) as
the same boot loads again, I then load (still in the same boot) the
TURBO_SMS_CODE appropriate for SMSQ based system.

This is all fine, however, I am developing the boot for different setups
and change them a lot depending on what project I decide to work on.

This means re-running the boot several times in the one session to test
what I am trying to do and I don't want to keep using up space re-LRESPR
the TURBO toolkit.
Using another toolkit to test for the existence of a keyword in the TURBO
toolkit would then mean using another method to test for that additional
Toolkit, a catch 22.

So I may try the WHEN_ERR method as soon as I find the documentation on it.

Lee




Lee




On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Derek Stewart via Ql-Users <
ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:

> Hi Tobias,
>
> The WHEN solution is great, but on some version of QODS, the WHEN ERRor
> did not work.
>
> There are some people still using AH,JM, roms which may have problems with
> WHEN ERRor
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Derek
>
>
> On 17/08/17 10:39, Tobias Fröschle via Ql-Users wrote:
>
>> After I sent this, I realised a bit of explanation might be in order, as
>> WHEN ERRor is not so well-known:
>>
>> When the interpreter passes a WHEN ERRor/END WHEN pair during normal
>> program execution, it doesn't do anything with the commands inside the
>> clause but remembering "I should do this in case an error occurs". So, line
>> 1020 is not executed if no error occurs in line 1050. But in case there is
>> an error (the interpreter choking on the MANIFEST statement it doesn't know
>> when TT is not loaded), line 1020 is executed, telling us TT is not loaded.
>>
>> After 1020 was executed, the program is continued at the point /after/
>> the error occurred.
>>
>> The empty WHEN ERRor clause (1060-1070) simply de-activates error
>> processing back to "normal".
>>
>> Line 1080 will thus have the variable TurboTkLoaded to 1, if 1050 was
>> executed without a problem, and set to 0 in case there was an error.
>> Because we have made sure line 1050 is the only line that can be executed
>> while error processing is active, we clearly know the only problem in 1050
>> can only be "bad name". So it is important to pick a "test command" from
>> the toolkit you are testing for that cannot choke on a different error than
>> "bad name". MANIFEST is pretty ideal for this.
>>
>> Tobias
>>
>> Am 17.08.2017 um 11:25 schrieb Tobias Fröschle via Ql-Users <
>>> ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com>:
>>>
>>> Lee,
>>>
>>> there are a number of toolkits that allow you to check for specific
>>> other toolkit commands loaded or not - But this is a bit useless as it
>>> leaves you with a chicken-and-egg problem: How to check whether the
>>> checking toolkit is loaded?
>>>
>>> Your best bet on SMSQ/E would be a WHEN ERRor clause you place just in
>>> front of a Toolkit command you are about to execute:
>>>
>>> 1000 TurboTkLoaded = 1
>>> 1010 WHEN ERRor
>>> 1020TurboTkLoaded = 0
>>> 1030 END WHEN
>>> 1040 REMark Execute a Toolkit command
>>> 1050 MANIFEST : x = 100
>>> 1055 REMark de-activate error checker
>>> 1060 WHEN ERRor
>>> 1070 END WHEN
>>> 1080 PRINT "Turbo Toolkit loaded:"!TurboTkLoaded
>>>
>>> On a QL with non-working WHEN ERRor commands (pre-MG) you are a bit
>>> doomed, the only thing I could probably come up with is writing a BASIC
>>> program that PEEKs the name list, which is not quite so simple.
>>>
>>> Tobias
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 17.08.2017 um 10:49 schrieb Lee Privett via Ql-Users <
>>>> ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com>:
>>>>
>>>> I originally posted this on the forum:
>>>>
>>>> Hi community, I have searched for this on the forum but cannot find an
>>>> entry but I am sure this has been asked before.
>>>>
>>>> I currently test for the presence of the HBA ROM in a boot program using
>>>> VER$ and would like to test for other toolkits, specifically the TURBO
>>>> toolki

[Ql-Users] TURBO and testing it exists

[Lee Privett via Ql-Users]

I originally posted this on the forum:

Hi community, I have searched for this on the forum but cannot find an
entry but I am sure this has been asked before.

I currently test for the presence of the HBA ROM in a boot program using
VER$ and would like to test for other toolkits, specifically the TURBO
toolkit. Is there a way to do this automatically in a boot so that when
subsequent runs of the boot it is not loaded again in one session?

e.g. for the HBA version I use:

Code: Select all <http://qlforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2063#>
IF VER$<>"HBA" THEN
   LRESPR "WIN8_SMSQ_QEM"
END IF


I feel there must be a way to test for TURBO toolkit, any ideas?

A reply from Derek suggested  the following:

There is a keyword: TK_VER$, but only returns the version of Turbo Toolkit,
which is the same for the SMS and QDOS versions.

A simple way would be to add "SMS" in the version number. Which would mean
a new version of Turbo Toolkit.

The SMS version calls the SMSQ/E extended traps, where the QDOS does not,
so maybe a test for SMSQ/E extended traps is the way, but I would favour
the about alteration to TK_VER$.

George Gwilt used to maintain Turbo and maybe the Toolkit. I think this
message needs to be posted in the QL-USERS mailing list, George Gwilt reads
that list.

Any views at all?

Regards Lee Privett
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Re: [Ql-Users] Bill Newell

[Lee Privett via Ql-Users]

Please send our wishes John, my own father in law suffers from Alzheimers
Disease as well as advance bowel cancer and I, as one of his carers know
too well the effects this terrible disease has on the person and their
loved ones.

regards
Lee Privett

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On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 4:18 PM, John Taylor via Ql-Users <
ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:

> Bill Newell is ill.
>
> I have tried to avoid pestering Babs, Mrs Newell, but today I called her
> and asked for an update.
> As it stands at present.
> Mental Health.  Still very poor due to Alzheimers Disease.
> Babs say that on very rare occasions ,Bill does recognise her, but the
> recognition does not last above a few minutes.
>
> Physical Health. There is no concern now with Sepsis. The Antibiotics
> worked.
> However Bill must remain bed ridden.
> When ever he leaves his bed, if only to stand, his Blood Pressure crashes
> down, so the medics have decided, permanent bed.
> No one has offered any explanation.
>
> I will try to get to Bill, currently in a Nursing Home, when I can get
> some support from my family.
> I do not drive now as my eyesight is lacking and I expect the visit will
> require a full day, most of it spent travelling.
>
> I hope I can keep you informed of Bill’s wellbeing in the future.
>
> All the best.
>
> John Taylor.
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Re: [Ql-Users] Software Preservation Project - Tasks

[Lee Privett]

Take off the https:// bit and it should be OK

On Sun, 10 Jul 2016 at 15:54, Norman Dunbar  wrote:

> Dilwyn,
>
> The link
> https://quanta.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/QUANTA-HELPLINE-07.pdf
> gets me to a security page telling me that quanta.org.uk is unsafe. It
> seems that the security certificate - SSL? - expired some 129 days ago. Is
> there ome one at Quanta who needs to know?
>
>
> Cheers,
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Re: [Ql-Users] Copyright

[Lee Privett]

There is an interesting bit on copyright that's list four things relating
to Software. One covers the code as literary, the other covers the output
from code as far as I can ascertain.

The code is a literary work
The on-screen display could be an artistic work
The soundtracks are musical works
Moving images can be protected as a film and so on

It goes on to cover non-literal copying of software, full article here.
http://www.inbrief.co.uk/intellectual-property/copyright-protection-for-software/

For me there is no question, it's copyrighted unless there evidence that is
not. Qliberator is a case in point, it's copyright protected until both
authors state it can be public domain.

Now it is interesting for a discussion perspective about non-literal
copying if a protected programme is hacked and the software no longer has
its anti copying protection then effectively it's not the same software
anymore.


On Sat, 9 Jul 2016 at 12:51, Colin McKay 
wrote:

> When a member of the Bristol Group, I remember being told that any program
> lodged in the QL system automatically became public domain. Can that be
> confirmed?
>
> Whilst searching the web, one site virtually stated that anything a person
> produces is automatically subject to copyright. Another site stated that
> copyrights can be registered. Do any of the QL programs expressly claim
> copyright? Compare the situation with that of books, many display the word
> 'copyright' on an introductory page.
>
> Entering the sordid topic of coin, it is difficult to imagine that it would
> profit any originator of a QL program to seek recompense from the courts
> for
> infringement of copyright. Consider the value of past sales, future
> possible
> sales, and legal costs. The case would have to be based on the miss-selling
> of a number of programs to create a sufficiently large claim.
>
> I have used Text87 almost since its availability. In those far back days I
> spoke to a member of the firm which produced it, and he explained some of
> its facilities. Later my memory failed, and I could not reconstruct the
> steps from the manual. From this, I suggest that whilst the program is very
> good, its value is diminished from the fact that its manual is seriously
> deficient. I suspect that situation could exist for many QL programs. They
> are written by insiders for the use of insiders.
>
> As regards the QL dying, to me the main factor for this is the inability of
> the QL community to create a system of durable software which would enable
> the purchaser of a machine (emulator) to instantly have a day-to-day
> coherent usable collection of programs not prone to enthusiasts
> ideosyncrasies.
>
> Colin
>
>
>
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>1. Re: Withdrawal of my personal SoftwarePreservation
> Project
>   (Norman Dunbar)
>2. Re: Withdrawal of my  personalSoftware
> Preservation
> Project
>   (Norman Dunbar)
>3. Re: Withdrawal of my personal Software Preservation Project
>   (Derek Stewart)
>4. Re: Withdrawal of my personal Software Preservation   Project
>   (Richard Howe)
>
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2016 21:09:15 +0100
> From: Norman Dunbar 
> To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
> Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Withdrawal of my personal   Software
> PreservationProject
> Message-ID: <9e7f06d5-7bb9-400c-a399-ad5524b62...@dunbar-it.co.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Still a verb. It's an action.
>
> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/infringe
>
> I wish I could get out of the sun! But it's too sunny and way to hot for a
> Jock like me!
>
>
> Cheers,
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2016 21:11:35 +0100
> From: Norman Dunbar 
> To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
> Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Withdrawal of mypersonalSoftware
> PreservationProject
> Message-ID: <3860c8a4-f79d-4470-bc70-67312f05c...@dunbar-it.co.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Whoops!
>
> To infringe, verb.
> An infringement noun.
> Apologies.
>
> Cheers,

Re: [Ql-Users] Withdrawal of my personal Software Preservation Project

[Lee Privett]

Sir Cliff Richard :)
On Fri, 8 Jul 2016 at 16:39, Norman Dunbar  wrote:

> No, please don't shut up. Healthy discourse is good.
>
> I was attempting to say that comparing copyright theft to homosexuality
> was comparing apples and oranges. One is "inbuilt" and hard to avoid, the
> other is willingly done. They are completely different to each other.
>
>
> Cheers,
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Re: [Ql-Users] Software Preservation Project - Tasks

[Lee Privett]

Can I add Adrian Soundy to that list of QLiberator fame (Liberation Software
),
I have tried to no avail to get a response from him regarding his part of
the compiler program, as far as I know he is living in New Zealand, and I
have messaged through one of the people at Intercreate.org
 who passed this on to Adrian. If anyone lives
there or is going there you may have better luck. Over a year now of
trying, Facebook and Linked-in also proved unsuccessful routes.

Lee




On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 9:29 PM, Rich Mellor (RWAP) 
wrote:

> I thought it would be worthwhile listing the people I have tried
> contacting by
> letter but not received a response from:
>
> Steve Sutton (Lightning, some of Perfection, ACT
> Alan Bridewell (Text N Graphics)
> Robin Barker - Di-Ren (letter returned no longer at this address)
> Graham Kirk (MAXIM and QLART) - I spoke with his brother, who provided me
> with
> Graham's address, but there was no response to my letter
> Jurgen Falkenburg (Level 2 Trump Card drivers)
> Simon Okoloko - Okoloko Engineering, USA (FRAME, GRID, TRUSS) - I have a
> letter
> sending the software to QL World for review, plus the manuals, but alas no
> software!
> Shirley Butler (C-Fix program for use with SuperBASIC C-Port) - not sure
> if she
> had any more involvement in C-Port.  I also emailed Dave Walker, but no
> response
> from either
> Alex Waye - Waye Ahead (QL Ambition)
>
> I have had more luck with emailing and contacting people on facebook /
> linkedIn
> - but Facebook is not reliable as unless you are a friend of the person,
> your
> messages get put in an 'Other folder' and are not obvious!
>
> Rich
>
>
> Rich Mellor
> RWAP Software
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Re: [Ql-Users] Assembly Language eComic - Issue 3 now available.

[Lee Privett]

Hi Norm, I think I forgot to include a tongue in cheek emoticon in my
original mail. He hee :-)
On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 at 13:01, Norman Dunbar  wrote:

> Hi Lee,
>
> On 03/02/16 11:15, Lee Privett wrote:
> > Thanks Norman, much appreciated, I may even get around to reading the
> rest
> > of pt 2 before starting this one.
> Oh well then, if people take so long to read each issue, maybe I don't
> have to speed up the production of each one after all! :-)
>
> > I have just noticed something however, is the '&' not allowed as a
> > character when used as a publisher name or is that just your style?
> I don't use an '&' in the publisher, which is just a joke anyway, it's
> not really published by anyone. This is the raw LaTeX code I use for
> that like:
>
> \noindent \textsc{Published by MeMyselfEye Publishing ;-)}\\ % Publisher
>
> So, you can see, no ampersands were harmed in the making of that page.
> In case you are wondering, \textsc{whatever} changes the text into small
> caps font in the final rendering.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Norm.
>
>
> --
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>
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Re: [Ql-Users] Assembly Language eComic - Issue 3 now available.

[Lee Privett]

Thanks Norman, much appreciated, I may even get around to reading the rest
of pt 2 before starting this one.

I have just noticed something however, is the '&' not allowed as a
character when used as a publisher name or is that just your style?

regards Lee

Lee




On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 2:40 PM, Norman Dunbar 
wrote:

> after many months of the odd hour grabbed here and there, between work,
> driving, home life and so forth - did I mention Christmas, New Year and a
> holiday to boot - the latest somewhat exciting issue of the Assembly
> Language eMagazine is now available for download.
>
> Point your browsers at
> qdosmsq.dunbar-it.co.uk/downloads/AssemblyLanguage/Issue_003/Assembly_Language_003.pdf
> (or wget
> qdosmsq.dunbar-it.co.uk//downloads/AssemblyLanguage/Issue_003/Assembly_Language_003.pdf)
> and all will be revealed.
>
> We have 29 pages of articles on sorting data, printing multiple strings, a
> hexdump utility, all you never needed to know about using jump tables in
> your code, and and some information about upcoming articles on the (new)
> 68020 instructions available in QPC, but sadly, not in any of the other
> emulators - yet.
>
> Happy reading and hopefully, the next issue will be out much quicker than
> this one!
>
>
> Cheers,
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Re: [Ql-Users] Tynemouth Software QL keyboard USB interface

[Lee Privett]

http://www.deblauweschicht.nl/tinkering/tinkering.html

homemade version

Lee




On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Adrian Graham <
wit...@binarydinosaurs.co.uk> wrote:

> On 31/01/2016 09:14, "matras...@aol.com"  wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Has anyone on this list come across this interface which links the QL
> keyboard
> > membrane to a USB connector to allow the keyboard to be used as a USB
> keyboard
> > for say a RPi or other system running a QL emulation. Does anyone know
> if if
> > works?
> >
> > Duncan
> >
> >
>
> http://blog.tynemouthsoftware.co.uk/2015/12/day-3-sinclair-ql-usb-keyboard.htm
> >
>
> Hi Duncan,
>
> I know Dave @ Tynemouth and have a couple of his PET addons, if the
> keyboard
> interface is of the same quality then it'll be sweet. He has the boards
> professionally made and hand-solders the components, the original
> keymappings were also hand-coded so there shouldn't be any problems.
>
> Cheers,
>
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Re: [Ql-Users] New QL Assembly Language Book.

[Lee Privett]

Norman, your psychic powers are amazing, how did you know I only had two
friends!

Many thanks for the update though 😊

On Fri, 17 Jul 2015 at 20:27 Norman Dunbar  wrote:

> Greetings everyone.
>
> After much work, some wailing, some gnashing of teeth and a good few hours
> typing on my phone while on holiday recently, I have finished updating the
> file at http://qdosmsq.dunbar-it.co.uk/downloads/QLToday/QL_Assembly.pdf
> which is the good old Assembly Language book I released into the wild just
> before Christmas.
>
> Changes are:
>
> George's observations and comments incorporated,
> Numerous typos fixed,
> LibGen removed until I fix it as there looks to be a chapter rewrite
> required,
> A new, much nicer format used,
> Code reformatted to not wander all over the margins,
> Proper table layout,
> Much nicer code layout,
> Orange! (You'll have to read it to follow that one!)
> 375 pages of sheer bliss, and working cross references and a full,
> clickable index.
>
> Please download and give copies to both your friends! 😁
>
>
> Cheers,
> Norm.
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Re: [Ql-Users] A little trumpet blowing

[Lee Privett]

Hee He hee :-) that may be lost on some people who read it in the magazine,
however excellent work Geoff. Who knows, a few more people back or in to
the fold.

On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 at 14:51 CPF via VirginMedia 
wrote:

> Her article will probably report... "created using SQL"
>
> ;)
>
>
> Sent from CPF BlackBerry Z30 really smartphone!
>   Original Message
> From: Geoff Wicks
> Sent: Thursday, 11 June 2015 14:43
> To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
> Reply To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
> Subject: [Ql-Users] A little trumpet blowing
>
> This is blowing the trumpet for both myself and the QL.
>
> The new edition of Family Tree magazine, which is in the shops tomorrow,
> contains an article I have written on DNA and surname distribution.
>
> It is illustrated by three maps that were all drawn on the QL using the
> Just Words! mapping software - with, of course, grateful thanks to Hugh
> Rooms for his work on the Mercator projection.
>
> The editor asked me for some information on how I had drawn the maps to
> help readers who may like to try it for themselves. I had to explain to
> her that it was not possible on a PC and that you have to use a QL,
>
> Best wishes,
>
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Re: [Ql-Users] Giga-Basic and E.A.S.E.

[Lee Privett]

Ah QPC4 yes (fail) but not tried in compatibility mode.

Regards

Lee Privett

On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 1:11 PM, Wolfgang Lenerz  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> did you ever try with QPC in compatibility mode?
>
> Wolfgang
>
> > I haven't been able to get them working on anything other than bbql and
> > qemulator with no smsq
> >
> > On Tuesday, April 14, 2015, Wolfgang Lenerz  wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Dilwyn,
> >>
> >> (...)
> >>> Covers the areas of graphics, sprites,
> >>
> >> I presume those won't work on extended screens?
> >>
> >>
> >> Wolfgang
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Re: [Ql-Users] Giga-Basic and E.A.S.E.

[Lee Privett]

I haven't been able to get them working on anything other than bbql and
qemulator with no smsq

On Tuesday, April 14, 2015, Wolfgang Lenerz  wrote:

> Hi Dilwyn,
>
> (...)
> > Covers the areas of graphics, sprites,
>
> I presume those won't work on extended screens?
>
>
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Re: [Ql-Users] Firefox speed problems (OT)

[Lee Privett]

Ah you maybe experiencing the death of Flash, as more and more websites
transfer media controls directly using HTML 5.

Are you using Firefox in Windows? I too experience slow ups, however my
broadband is around 2 meg download and about 500k upload on good days when
it is working. Oh for fibre optic. I don't seem to have the same issues
using Firefox with Linux however so maybe...

Regards Lee



On Monday, February 23, 2015, Geoff Wicks  wrote:

> This is strictly speaking off topic, but given the number of us that are
> using Firefox as our default browser probably still relevant and helpful.
>
> Last week I went over to fibre broadband for financial reasons. My
> contract with BT was coming to an end, and to tempt me to stay they offered
> me fibre at an introductory low rate which saves me about £100 over the
> next 18 months. Even when I am paying the full price it is still cheaper
> than my former broadband.
>
> I was promised a speed of about 40Mb, but when I did the speed test I was
> getting only 10Mb. It took me quite a while to track what was going wrong
> and only after  I had the bright idea of temporarily making IE my default
> browser. Hey presto It has a speed of 37.5Mb.
>
> From my internet searches it appears there is a long history of
> compatibility problems between Firefox and the Adobe Flash Player plugin. I
> am shocked by just how much it slows down Firefox.  Most of the information
> on the internet is from two years ago and there does not seem to be any
> obvious solution. Mozilla can suggest nothing better than "try a reset" and
> other users have resorted to using an earlier version of Flash Player.
>
> I wonder if others on this list have come across similar problems and if
> they know a solution. What I have done in the interim is to reset the
> plugin to "Ask me".  As I only regularly visit two sites where Flash Player
> is essential this is not a handicap.
>
> If you are having speed problems with Firefox, you could try the same
> "solution" and see if that improves matters,
>
>
> Best wishes,
>
>
> Geoff
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[Ql-Users] Good Morning People - ‘QL SuperBASIC - The Definitive Handbook’

[Lee Privett]

The was some move awhile ago by a few on here to get this book legitimately
available in an electronic (possibly PDF) format, does anyone know how far
anyone got.

I am not talking about the one available on World of Spectrum among others
but a higher quality version.

I note Jan Jones seems to be contactable on here
http://www.jan-jones.co.uk/index.html via webmas...@jan-jones.co.uk

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Re: [Ql-Users] Edinburgh is go!

[Lee Privett]

I joined the AGM about five minutes beforehand to test everything was
working as it should be.  I was sitting in my hastily built shed next to
the newly adopted chickens which everyone apparently could hear.
Technically,  I was using an iPad, communication via Skype and about 30
metres away from the wifi in the house through two brick walls.  It seem to
work fine,  clear voices and nice to put a sound to a never seen in person
Dave from across the pond. I didn't notice any major delays other than
natural tendencies to be polite when the chairman was asking questions.
Something to bear in mind for Edinburgh is a protocol when a.  Someone
wants to say something and b.  Announcing who they are. Otherwise I think
the the electronic AGM went very well.
On 15 May 2014 17:16, "Dilwyn Jones"  wrote:

> One thing I would appreciate from Quanta is if someone would be prepared
>> to say a few words about electronic participation in meetings. I am not
>> thinking in terms of the technical details, but more how it has turned out
>> in practice.
>>
> I have participated in a Quanta committee meeting by speakerphone group
> call, and the AGM this year by a Skype group call.
>
> The speakerphone meeting was less than perfect, because although those of
> us on phones could hear each other well, we could not hear some of those at
> the meeting itself. The committee agreed to look into obtaining a purpose
> made phone, which has more than one microphone to pick up those around the
> table a bit better, although I don't know if one was purchased or not.
>
> The telephone conference call was via an 0845 dial-in. We were told to
> dial in about 5 minutes before the meeting started, which gave enough time
> to identify ourselves and make sure we could hear each other. This type of
> call can become difficult if several people talk across each other, so one
> person (e.g. Chairman) needs to be in charge and ensure people speak in
> turn and invite comments from those on a phone, as it is easier to catch
> Chairman's eye in the room if you want to speak - telephone guests
> potentially at a disadvantage, although in our case Sarah handled this very
> well.
>
> The disadvantage with this is that it is after all an 0845 number based
> system, which would be more costly for anyone overseas.
>
> For this year's AGM, we used the Skype group call system (audio only).
> Three of us (Lee Privett, Dave Park and myself) participated - there was no
> video but I think we were identified by our avatars on screen at the AGM.
> Like the conference call, we connected about 5 minutes beforehand to set
> up, identify ourselves, check volumes etc. Keith (webmaster) had provided
> us with the Quanta Skype name beforehand, which we put in the contacts list
> and used to originate the call. I don't know if it was the same at the AGM
> end, but when someone on Skype talked, there was an on-screen highlight
> which helped identify who was speaking. Call quality was great, and as I
> was using a headset (rather than telephone handset) it let me operate the
> computer at the same time, e.g. if I needed to look something up during the
> discussion. If we couldn't hear someone at the meeting, we were able to ask
> and have Chairman repeat what was said.
>
> We had done a quick test call that morning as it was new to some of us,
> but it all seemed to work first time, apart from me plugging my earphone
> and microphone plus the wrong way round on my PC for a few seconds (age,
> eyesight...)
>
> With both methods, the participant dialled in rather than someone at the
> meeting calling us.
>
> With regards to bandwidth - the connections are made at the server end and
> just the one two-way link to the server, so you _do not_ need a separate
> bandwidth for each participant, luckily, or it might put a strain on the
> broadband if you have a fairly slow connection at the venue - the fact
> it['s all joined together at the server end means it should work even on
> fairly slow broadband at the venue.
>
> Up to 10 participants can take part in a Skype _video_ group call (5
> recommended for best quality). Callers can be on Windows, Mac, or Xbox One
> (if you have Xbox 1 Live Gold membership, whatever that is)  (more
> platforms planned - Skype website says mobiles and tablets etc planned soon
> too). Skype website says up to 25 people on a group _audio_ call.
>
> Hope that helps...
>
> Dilwyn Jones
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Re: [Ql-Users] Things I have learned...

[Lee Privett]

In a previous move,  not the one I have just done,  this was downsizing
without losing anything.  Anyway in a previous move I went for.  A one bed
flat to a three bed house with a roof room and very large garage /shed and
managed to fill it up instantly,  I just don't know where all the stuff
came from. That was also pre returning to the QL as well,  so I have even
more stuff now.
On 28 Apr 2014 23:09, "Rod H"  wrote:

> Long ago I learned one of life's prime lessons.  My wife and I lived in
> apartments for 2 1/2 years moving every six months (early gypsy phase) and
> each move cleared out all the unnecessary junk. Then into the 3-bedroom
> townhouse, still just the wife and I, for 17 years.  Then into the big
> house for 25 years - still just the wife and I.  When coming here we
> divided up the house equally - I got the workshop, half the two-car garage
> and the big room above the garage.  She got the rest of the house. I
> proceeded to fill my portion with Sinclair computer stuff, Timex-Sinclair
> computer stuff, QL computer stuff, ordinary computer stuff, camera stuff,
> car stuff, motorcycle stuff, and other stuff.  Now  she wants to move again.
>
> The lesson?  You always acquire stuff to fill the available space.  And
> more!
>
> > Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 22:12:51 +0100
> > From: r...@rwapservices.co.uk
> > To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
> > Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Things I have learned...
> >
> >
> >
> > > On April 28, 2014 at 10:02 PM Dave Park  wrote:
> > >
> > > I have the utmost respect for Rich at RWAP, who has hundreds of items
> and
> > > also very limited space. How does he do it?
> >
> > Simple - my office is designed as a Tardis - I remember moving - I
> emptied the
> > contents of my office and they filled the van!
> >
> > Rich Mellor
> > RWAP Software
> > www.rwapsoftware.co.uk
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Re: [Ql-Users] Superbasic Syntax rules for Textpad

[Lee Privett]

It's a very configurable text editor,  I went through 5 others  effort
settling on Sublime.  I've got colour schemes for the syntax done and turbo
and toolkit extension keywords,  drives however I cannot overcome certain
operators such as ^ \ and ^^ they seem to be preferred symbols as part of
the editor/python.  However,  I think it is possible to do auto numbering
like ED,  and running QemuLator or QPC2 from within the Editor,  something
the others cannot seem to do.  However  learning python even the dummies
guide is not telling me what I want to know.  The Sublime forums seem to
only speak in "you already know it" speech,  which is a bit off putting.
If anyone here knows more and wants to help please contact me.
On 17 Mar 2014 13:33, "Dilwyn Jones"  wrote:

> Seem to have set the ball rolling what with the ones fro microemacs, VIM,
> TextWrangler etc. Hope these syntax files help you put one together for
> SublimeText - I've never heard of that particular one but will look it up
> now.
>
> Dilwyn
>
> -Original Message- From: Lee Privett
> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 12:34 PM
> To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
> Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Superbasic Syntax rules for Textpad
>
> Unbelievable I am currently working on one for Sublime Text a far better
> Text Editor :)
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Dilwyn Jones <
> dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk
>
>> wrote:
>>
>
>  Superbasic Syntax rules for Textpad
>>
>> If anyone has the Textpad editor for Windows and would like to use it to
>> edit QL SuperBASIC programs (with user definable sytax colouring etc) I've
>> added a copy of SuperBasic.syn from Laurence Reeves (author of Minerva) to
>> my website. There is a link to it from Laurence's website at
>> http://www.bergbland.info but it's a broken link, however, luckily I had
>> saved a copy of it some time ago which happens to still be on my PC.
>>
>> To use it, unzip the superbasic_syn.zip and place the file called
>> superbasic.syn in your "Program Files" for TextPad, inside the "Samples"
>> folder. Textpad can be downloaded from http://www.textpad.com
>>
>> Download it from http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/basic/index.html (near the
>> bottom of the page with the other syntax rules systems).
>>
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Re: [Ql-Users] Superbasic Syntax rules for Textpad

[Lee Privett]

Unbelievable I am currently working on one for Sublime Text a far better
Text Editor :)


On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Dilwyn Jones  wrote:

> Superbasic Syntax rules for Textpad
>
> If anyone has the Textpad editor for Windows and would like to use it to
> edit QL SuperBASIC programs (with user definable sytax colouring etc) I've
> added a copy of SuperBasic.syn from Laurence Reeves (author of Minerva) to
> my website. There is a link to it from Laurence's website at
> http://www.bergbland.info but it's a broken link, however, luckily I had
> saved a copy of it some time ago which happens to still be on my PC.
>
> To use it, unzip the superbasic_syn.zip and place the file called
> superbasic.syn in your "Program Files" for TextPad, inside the "Samples"
> folder. Textpad can be downloaded from http://www.textpad.com
>
> Download it from http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/basic/index.html (near the
> bottom of the page with the other syntax rules systems).
>
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Re: [Ql-Users] Assembly Language Issue 1 now available.

[Lee Privett]

Read the ebook, 50 sheds of grey :-)
On 6 Mar 2014 09:31, "WILLIAM WAUGH"  wrote:

> Works on my Asus prime with Sony  Reader app, although twould be better if
> I tweak to one page displayed instead of two.
> I'm not up to the standard of all you guys but will have another peruse,
> at least I could have all the stuff in one place for further reading if and
> when time allows (shed restoration in progress - priorities a man must have
> a shed or three)
>
> All the best Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> > From: Norman Dunbar 
> >To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
> >Sent: Wednesday, 5 March 2014, 21:14
> >Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Assembly Language Issue 1 now available.
> >
> >
> >On 05/03/14 21:08, Norman Dunbar wrote:
> >
> >> EPUB -
> >>
> qdosmsq.dunbar-it.co.uk/downloads/AssemblyLanguage/Issue_001/Assembly_Language_001.epub
> >
> >The epub has been tested on my own iRiver eReader and works fine, other
> than some of the cod'e sections comments slip off the right side of the
> page in portrait mode. It's fine if you switch to Landscape.
> >
> >To read the ePub version in a browser, use Firefox, add the epubReader
> add-on, and configure it for single column. Works like a charm and you get
> the images in colour!
> >
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Norm.
> >
> >-- Norman Dunbar
> >Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd
> >
> >Registered address:
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Re: [Ql-Users] Assembly Language Issue 1 now available.

[Lee Privett]

Hi Norman, currently reading the article after a bit fiddling about.

You would think that e-readers, especially epub readers would be able to
handle 'all' epub files.

However to save others from a little frustration if you want to view your
document in Windows 8 on Chrome (this is the set-up I am currently using).
>From the Windows App store, there are several epub readers, after filtering
out the 'paid for' ones, I have tried a few starting with the highest
rating first and working my way down.

*Bookviser *doesn't recognise you epub file at all
*Liberty *on the other hand doesn't display any graphics

The first one to work well is *Freda*, you can download this, it is
extremely configurable and you should adjust it for single column, black
ink on slightly grey paper. Works like a charm and you get the images in
colour! (he hee pat pending)

and now to reading more assembly...

Regards Lee


On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 9:14 PM, Norman Dunbar wrote:

> On 05/03/14 21:08, Norman Dunbar wrote:
>
>  EPUB -
>> qdosmsq.dunbar-it.co.uk/downloads/AssemblyLanguage/
>> Issue_001/Assembly_Language_001.epub
>>
>
> The epub has been tested on my own iRiver eReader and works fine, other
> than some of the cod'e sections comments slip off the right side of the
> page in portrait mode. It's fine if you switch to Landscape.
>
> To read the ePub version in a browser, use Firefox, add the epubReader
> add-on, and configure it for single column. Works like a charm and you get
> the images in colour!
>
>
> Cheers,
> Norm.
>
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>
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Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 v4.02 released

[Lee Privett]

absolutely

Lee in Essex


On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 9:36 PM, QL-MyLink (f/len)
wrote:

> Dilwyn said -
>
>
> Marcel, I don't know how to start thanking you for all this - you have been
> a central pivot for the QL community for many years now with your work on
> QPC2, SMSQ/E, WMAN2  and everything else. Thank you.
> --
>
> My sentiments too, Marcel,
>
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Re: [Ql-Users] Today 30 years ago...

[Lee Privett]

That's very useful information Dilwyn,  many thanks.
On 13 Jan 2014 19:52, "Dilwyn Jones"  wrote:

> Geoff Wicks wrote:
>
>> QL2004 gave a much needed boost to the QL community. There is still time
>> to organise another boost by a QLis30 event,
>>
> Rob from QL Forum announced this week that QL Forum now has the 'Live
> Chat' facility whereby a group of members logged on could discuss together
> in real time IRC (internet relay chat) style. Since the Forum has about 200
> members, and tens of members (at least) can be online at once, quite a
> group discussion could be had if someone was prepared to moderate it to
> prevent it falling into chaos at once!
>
> I thought this might be handy for a group of those interested in ensuring
> that a 'QL Is 30' goes ahead to meet online to 'brainstorm' ideas together
> at some point. All we'd have to do is appoint a day and time for QL Forum
> members to get together to discuss. That way it helps ensure Rich and one
> or two others aren't landed with the entire job of organising it by
> themselves.
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL-SD Card Interface

[Lee Privett]

Ha ha lol and I thought someone was actually using Google glass or
something like that.
On 11 Jan 2014 18:55, "Adrian Ives"  wrote:

> Not what you think. It's a Tesco HUDL Android Tablet.
>
> Sent from my Hudl
>
> Lee Privett  wrote:
>
> >Never mind about all that Adrian,  what's this Head Up Display your using?
> >On 11 Jan 2014 15:33, "Peter Graf"  wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Adrian,
> >>
> >> you had contributed a large amout of work for QL-SD and this work
> >> deserves many thanks and respect.
> >>
> >> The drivers are free software and without any warranty, I can confirm
> >> here that you are not responsible for QL-SD or any support. I mentioned
> >> your name in the manual under the acknowledgements section. If you wish
> >> your name to be removed, or unmentioned in general, please let me know.
> >>
> >> I'm saying this for the hardware I designed, not sure if there is a name
> >> clash.
> >>
> >> Many thanks again,
> >> Peter
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL-SD Card Interface

[Lee Privett]

Never mind about all that Adrian,  what's this Head Up Display your using?
On 11 Jan 2014 15:33, "Peter Graf"  wrote:

> Hi Adrian,
>
> you had contributed a large amout of work for QL-SD and this work
> deserves many thanks and respect.
>
> The drivers are free software and without any warranty, I can confirm
> here that you are not responsible for QL-SD or any support. I mentioned
> your name in the manual under the acknowledgements section. If you wish
> your name to be removed, or unmentioned in general, please let me know.
>
> I'm saying this for the hardware I designed, not sure if there is a name
> clash.
>
> Many thanks again,
> Peter
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL-SD News

[Lee Privett]

Initially 2 for me too


On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Ian Burkinshaw <
ian.burkins...@btopenworld.com> wrote:

> Hi Peter
>
> If it helps in gaining a measure outside Germany, I would be interested in
> 2/3 QL-SD units.
>
> Ian Burkinshaw
> - Original Message - From: "Peter Graf" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 5:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QL-SD News
>
>
>
>  Francois Lanciault wrote:
>>
>>  Looking forward to an official news with price and availability.
>>>
>>
>> At the moment QL-SD is only available within Germany, orders through the
>> German QL Forum. Current price is EUR 60 including a preformattet SDHC
>> card, Minerva operating system and drivers EPROM, Microdrive slot access
>> unit and shipment. QL-SD is in a phase of testing, gathering experience,
>> improving the manual, and investigating the (Super) Gold Card issues.
>>
>> Should experiences and pre-orders be encouraging, the next batch is
>> planned prior to the German Sinclair meeting in April.
>>
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL-SD News

[Lee Privett]

Totally agree, excellent work and exciting to say the least.


On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Dave Park  wrote:

> Cool! Excellent work!
>
> Dave
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:40 AM, Peter  wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > the restriction that a QL memory expansion is madatory for QL-SD has been
> > removed.
> >
> > If a QL-SD filesystem of 3 MB size (and Groupsize 8) is attached, there
> > still remains 62.5 KB free memory on an unexpanded QL. Not very much, but
> > enough to load TK2 and still be able do useful things.
> >
> > This way, even an unexpanded QL has more mass storage than the ED floppy
> > interface of a (Super) Gold Card offers, and that at harddisk speed
> > without moving mechanical parts.
> >
> > (Larger filesystems, like the 64 MB default, can not be used on an
> > unexpanded QL at all. This won't change.)
> >
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Re: [Ql-Users] Teleconference idea

[Lee Privett]

IPad 3 :(
On 24 Oct 2013 20:11, "Dave Park"  wrote:

> I haven't personally experienced that, but I have heard a couple of friends
> have that issue - they both have iPad 2's - which do you have? My iPad mini
> works flawlessly with Skype, but I rarely use it for that.
>
> Dave
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Lee Privett 
> wrote:
>
> > Video on iPad didn't work for me
> > On 24 Oct 2013 19:36, "Dave Park"  wrote:
> >
> > > I have used Skype on iOS 3 thru 7 on iPhones 2, 4, 4s and 5, without
> > > problems. I *have* had one set of problems with Skype due to skype's
> own
> > > server issues, but that was in 2008 and has not recurred. They were hit
> > by
> > > problems for several days that affected a call to my mom in England.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Lee Privett 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Not so well on iOS devices by my experience,  however that may have
> > been
> > > a
> > > > one off.
> > > > On 24 Oct 2013 18:44, "Dave Park"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Skype is the only stable mass market video platform that allows
> > > multiple
> > > > > callers/conferencing that is PC, Mac and Linux compatible and free
> to
> > > > use.
> > > > > That's why I use it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Mark Martin <
> > storycraf...@gmail.com
> > > > > >wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Recent discussions about holding a physical meeting have gotten
> me
> > > > > > thinking. Someone mentioned skyping as a possibility, and I can
> > tell
> > > > you
> > > > > > that another retro computing group (the CoCo group) have held
> > > > online-only
> > > > > > events in the past. These were very informal and low-key, and
> while
> > > > they
> > > > > > were repeated only a handful of times, they were extremely easy
> to
> > > > > > coordinate.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Along that line, I'm offering for your consideration two
> proposals:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -- The informal approach is that I will lead an effort to
> determine
> > > the
> > > > > > most common IM program used among interested parties (hopefully
> > > > Skype). I
> > > > > > will collect contact information and then schedule a first call.
> > I'll
> > > > try
> > > > > > to gather consensus on a schedule and an agenda. In other words,
> I
> > > will
> > > > > > facilitate and then happily let others lead discussions they are
> > > > > interested
> > > > > > in.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -- The Big Bang approach is to model after what the virtual
> > tabletop
> > > > > > role-playing conventions do -- they host schedules for individual
> > > > tables,
> > > > > > and allow interested parties to lead those "tables". They allow
> > > signup
> > > > > for
> > > > > > these tables and coordinate all of the interested parties into a
> > > > > > (essentially) private meeting space. These are essentially a
> large
> > > > > online,
> > > > > > virtual convention -- but focused on smaller interest topics (in
> > this
> > > > > case,
> > > > > > individual role playing game sessions). I could perhaps leverage
> > > > websites
> > > > > > that cater to this type of convention and, again, help facilitate
> > > > smaller
> > > > > > groups to get together at various times over some pre-planned
> > > > convention
> > > > > > weekend.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I do not intend to step on Quantas toes here as I know they are
> > > > > separately
> > > > > > trying to schedule a more robust and higher scale venture. I'm
> more
> > > > > > interested in seeing if there is interest in something a lot less
> > > > formal,
> > > > > > on the side, and not necessarily tied to any Quanta business --
> > > global
> 

Re: [Ql-Users] Teleconference idea

[Lee Privett]

Video on iPad didn't work for me
On 24 Oct 2013 19:36, "Dave Park"  wrote:

> I have used Skype on iOS 3 thru 7 on iPhones 2, 4, 4s and 5, without
> problems. I *have* had one set of problems with Skype due to skype's own
> server issues, but that was in 2008 and has not recurred. They were hit by
> problems for several days that affected a call to my mom in England.
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Lee Privett 
> wrote:
>
> > Not so well on iOS devices by my experience,  however that may have been
> a
> > one off.
> > On 24 Oct 2013 18:44, "Dave Park"  wrote:
> >
> > > Skype is the only stable mass market video platform that allows
> multiple
> > > callers/conferencing that is PC, Mac and Linux compatible and free to
> > use.
> > > That's why I use it.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Mark Martin  > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > Recent discussions about holding a physical meeting have gotten me
> > > > thinking. Someone mentioned skyping as a possibility, and I can tell
> > you
> > > > that another retro computing group (the CoCo group) have held
> > online-only
> > > > events in the past. These were very informal and low-key, and while
> > they
> > > > were repeated only a handful of times, they were extremely easy to
> > > > coordinate.
> > > >
> > > > Along that line, I'm offering for your consideration two proposals:
> > > >
> > > > -- The informal approach is that I will lead an effort to determine
> the
> > > > most common IM program used among interested parties (hopefully
> > Skype). I
> > > > will collect contact information and then schedule a first call. I'll
> > try
> > > > to gather consensus on a schedule and an agenda. In other words, I
> will
> > > > facilitate and then happily let others lead discussions they are
> > > interested
> > > > in.
> > > >
> > > > -- The Big Bang approach is to model after what the virtual tabletop
> > > > role-playing conventions do -- they host schedules for individual
> > tables,
> > > > and allow interested parties to lead those "tables". They allow
> signup
> > > for
> > > > these tables and coordinate all of the interested parties into a
> > > > (essentially) private meeting space. These are essentially a large
> > > online,
> > > > virtual convention -- but focused on smaller interest topics (in this
> > > case,
> > > > individual role playing game sessions). I could perhaps leverage
> > websites
> > > > that cater to this type of convention and, again, help facilitate
> > smaller
> > > > groups to get together at various times over some pre-planned
> > convention
> > > > weekend.
> > > >
> > > > I do not intend to step on Quantas toes here as I know they are
> > > separately
> > > > trying to schedule a more robust and higher scale venture. I'm more
> > > > interested in seeing if there is interest in something a lot less
> > formal,
> > > > on the side, and not necessarily tied to any Quanta business --
> global
> > in
> > > > scale. I have very little to no budget to do this, although I believe
> > > there
> > > > isn't much need for such a budget.  This is mostly a volunteer time
> > kind
> > > of
> > > > thing for all parties.
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Re: [Ql-Users] Teleconference idea

[Lee Privett]

Not so well on iOS devices by my experience,  however that may have been a
one off.
On 24 Oct 2013 18:44, "Dave Park"  wrote:

> Skype is the only stable mass market video platform that allows multiple
> callers/conferencing that is PC, Mac and Linux compatible and free to use.
> That's why I use it.
>
> Dave
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Mark Martin  >wrote:
>
> > Recent discussions about holding a physical meeting have gotten me
> > thinking. Someone mentioned skyping as a possibility, and I can tell you
> > that another retro computing group (the CoCo group) have held online-only
> > events in the past. These were very informal and low-key, and while they
> > were repeated only a handful of times, they were extremely easy to
> > coordinate.
> >
> > Along that line, I'm offering for your consideration two proposals:
> >
> > -- The informal approach is that I will lead an effort to determine the
> > most common IM program used among interested parties (hopefully Skype). I
> > will collect contact information and then schedule a first call. I'll try
> > to gather consensus on a schedule and an agenda. In other words, I will
> > facilitate and then happily let others lead discussions they are
> interested
> > in.
> >
> > -- The Big Bang approach is to model after what the virtual tabletop
> > role-playing conventions do -- they host schedules for individual tables,
> > and allow interested parties to lead those "tables". They allow signup
> for
> > these tables and coordinate all of the interested parties into a
> > (essentially) private meeting space. These are essentially a large
> online,
> > virtual convention -- but focused on smaller interest topics (in this
> case,
> > individual role playing game sessions). I could perhaps leverage websites
> > that cater to this type of convention and, again, help facilitate smaller
> > groups to get together at various times over some pre-planned convention
> > weekend.
> >
> > I do not intend to step on Quantas toes here as I know they are
> separately
> > trying to schedule a more robust and higher scale venture. I'm more
> > interested in seeing if there is interest in something a lot less formal,
> > on the side, and not necessarily tied to any Quanta business -- global in
> > scale. I have very little to no budget to do this, although I believe
> there
> > isn't much need for such a budget.  This is mostly a volunteer time kind
> of
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Re: [Ql-Users] Why not

[Lee Privett]

I will look into that
On 22 Oct 2013 19:43, "Geoff Wicks"  wrote:

> On 21/10/2013 23:42, Dave Park wrote:
>
>> Great! I hope that means I'll be able to "attend" the next one. :)
>>
>> How much will it cost to be set up to have a large number of skypers
>> present? :)
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
> Don't forget that you played an important role in this. I had raised a
> question about the Quanta quorum on this list. Rich made a comment about
> the possibility of electronic participation. You made a comment on what
> Rich had written and I then realised that we could put it into the Quanta
> constitution.
>
> So once again our thanks.
>
> INCIDENTALLY QUANTA it would be a good idea to have an article on how to
> participate by Skype in the Quanta Magazine early next year!
>
> Best wishes,
>
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Re: [Ql-Users] Why?

[Lee Privett]

Speaking from myself and not as a representative committee member, the
recent annual events held by QUANTA has (as far as I am aware) contain
two separate entities. The first is a workshop normally held on a Saturday,
the Sunday set aside as primarily a discussion prior to the formalities of
the AGM held in the afternoon. This has been an efficient method to
incorporate both together. The added advantage has been that the workshop
(people do bring their QLs and other stuff for fixing) has carried over to
the second day and benefited from the expertise available. The downside is
that in the short time I have now attended these, the take up is poor on
either day/both, a few die-hards and that is all. It is not that anyone new
is not welcomed, they are.

QUANTA would still be required by constitution to hold an AGM although I
would agree about venues as being, smaller. I do not know what the
advantages regarding costs be, if any. With such member numbers, my
experience has shown apathy reigns supreme. A one-day event to me may be
not any more viable than a two day, others would need to comment further.

How well did the QL meeting fare that QL Today was advertising? What
benefits and insights can we gain from that experience to improve things
here?. Is there a better take up of such events on the continent? I had
intended to go and was looking forward to it especially the model village,
if not for personal circumstances preventing me, alas this is not a unique
situation. With regards to QLis30, I had already commented on this in 2011
in an article in the QUANTA magazine. I suspect that the cheaper option
should now always prevail as the risks and rewards have not paid any real
dividends thus far. Unless attendance for such events improves
significantly (and this in my opinion has to happen first), there is no
real advantage to hold them anywhere else.

As with most things I stand to be corrected and also welcome comments from
others.

Regards

Lee Privett




On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Geoff Wicks wrote:

> We need to inject some realism into this discussion  and that means
> looking in some detail at Quanta's finances.
>
> We have to stop thinking that Quanta has a huge pot of gold. Admittedly
> there is still some gold, but it is a very small pot.
>
> In practiced Quanta's finances are in a more serious condition than most
> members realise and there is no quick fix for the problems.
>
> Quanta has made a financial loss in 8 of the last 10 years and, on
> average, the loss works out at £700 per year. Almost £600 of that loss is
> down to the QLis21 and QLis25 events. In other words these shows have made
> a major contribution to Quanta's present financial trouble.
>
> Now consider income. On the last available membership figures we now have
> under 100 subscription paying members. On the basis of this figure I would
> predict a future annual income between £2,000 and £2,500, and probably
> nearer the lower value than the higher.
>
> A QLis30 event run on the lines of the previous two shows would cost more
> than Quanta's income in 2014. In the worst case scenario it would cost one
> and a half times the annual income.
>
> In those circumstances I would fully support John Gilpin when he says we
> cannot afford QLis30.
>
> Where I depart from Quanta is they have failed to look at alternative ways
> of running a 2014 event. In particular they have not looked at the
> possibility of a 1 day event. I have suggested that this could be done for
> £1,000. This is not a figure that I have just thought up for this
> discussion, but one that I reached a year ago and suggested in a QL Today
> editorial.
>
> Quanta's problems is that is still lives in the world when it had 2,000
> members and has the mentality that "what we have always done, we always
> have to do". It needs to start thinking simply and go back to first
> principles. Learn how to organise a no frills show. It is what happens at a
> show that is important and not the Quanta frippery.
>
> I would urge Quanta to go back to the drawing board and look at the
> possibility of a 1 day event.
>
> I have considered Rich's proposal carefully and I like it, but sorry Rich,
> you have not produced for me a business case. I have no idea from what you
> write how much the show would cost Quanta. If you want this show to go
> ahead you really need to do  more homework. I need to know who the partners
> will be, how reliable they are, and what the relative costs would be for
> Quanta. I need to know an estimate of attendance and, given that there was
> a loss on the last occasion, what you anticipate the loss to be. I also
> need to know more than just the venue costs. As Sarah has pointed out there
> are many other costs to a show. Venue costs repr

Re: [Ql-Users] Job data space - foibles?

[Lee Privett]

Norman, I use this all the time when hoodwinking students and
about how intelligent retro computers are.

Firing up Q-emuLator basic setup (if you have a QL then switch it on)
type in directly

PRINT the_answer_to_life_the_universe_and_everything then press enter
Note what appears on the screen
then type
PRINT CODE("?")  - replace the ? with what appears on screen then press
enter
voilà








On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Norman Dunbar wrote:

> Evening all,
>
> I'm experimenting for the first exciting episode of the new assembly
> language mailing list. It's the first time I've sat down with QPC since I
> started my new job!
>
> I have noticed something a little odd, well, even to be honest. Strangely
> enough, the answer is 42 - what is the question? ;-)
>
> Seriously, when I create a job with any given dataspace, when the job is
> activated, A5.L is always set to that data space value plus 42 extra bytes.
>
> There's nothing in the QDOS docs (from Jochen) nor in Dickens or Pennell.
> The closest I have found is in Pennell on page 20 where he says that "...
> TRNSP is expanded by D2+D3+$68, memory permitting" when a job is created.
>
> D2 is the code size, D3 is the requested dataspace size and the extra $68
> is for the standard job header area.
>
> I'm wondering if the mysterious 42 extra bytes is also accumulated in the
> space desired in TRNSP (it has to be D2+D3+$68+42 or stuff would crash!)
> but where does it come from?
>
> I cannot see it as being a rounding to the nearest 16 or 8 or whatever,
> because it's always 42. When I say always, I have tried the same job with
> the following dataspace sizes, and every one set A5 to be 42 extra:
>
> 126, 256, 500, 512, 1000, 1024, 2000, 2048, 3000, 3172, 4000, 4096.
>
> I could, I suppose, look up the source for SMSQ but I don;t, sadly, have
> the time at the moment. Not after doing all the above testing! I'm afraid I
> shall be lazy and rely on the good will and knowledge of the list for
> answers.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Norm.
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Re: [Ql-Users] GST assemblers

[Lee Privett]

That's a great result Dilwyn, well done in your (and others) continued
efforts of the de-facto standard for QL stuff :)


On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 11:46 PM, Dilwyn Jones  wrote:

> With much appreciated help from Rich Mellor, the GST QL Assembler, Macro
> Assembler and Quanta Q-Mac are now available to download from my website at
> http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/asm/index.html
>
> The Macro Assembler is available as a floppy disk version, or a two
> microdrive cartridge (program and library cartridges) version.
>
> Thomas Kral will be glad to know the editor is included now.
>
> Manuals are also available to download as PDF files. Note that the manual
> for the QL Assembler is rather large by QL standards at about 10MB.
>
> Urs Koenig got permission from GST’s founder to release GST’s QL software
> as freeware a little while back, and Quanta committee decided after that to
> allow the Q-Mac (Quanta modified version of the Macro Assembler) to be mad
> eavailable for all QL users (previously only available to members).
>
> I have to explain that these packages were prepared in rather a hurry
> tonight as I have to get up early for work tomorrow, so I haven’t had time
> to test them, especially as I am not familiar with these programs, so if
> anyone finds problems, please let me know (e.g. missing files).
>
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Re: [Ql-Users] ICL One Per Desk Computer - Bedfordshire

[Lee Privett]

the 'their' is deliberate


On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Lee Privett  wrote:

> because their Rap with a C
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Dilwyn Jones <
> dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Id avoid selecting YODEL as the courier though!
>>>
>> Amazing how many people I've heard say that, wonder why?
>>
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Re: [Ql-Users] ICL One Per Desk Computer - Bedfordshire

[Lee Privett]

because their Rap with a C


On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Dilwyn Jones  wrote:

> Id avoid selecting YODEL as the courier though!
>>
> Amazing how many people I've heard say that, wonder why?
>
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Re: [Ql-Users] Q-emuLator video

[Lee Privett]

Have you asked Daniele?


On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Dilwyn Jones
wrote:

> That is exactly what is happening and exactly what I want to stop
> happening.
>
> Making matters worse, although the ratio is fine in full screen mode, the
> left half of the display is annoyingly animated - as though it is
> interpolating intermittently (it happens up to the second letter i in the
> word Sinclair at the bottom of the screen. Doesn't matter if I turn off the
> magnification filter etc.
>
> Most of today has been wasted trying to sort this out so I can try to run
> software to see what WMAN2 software works under PE2.01. At this rate I'll
> just give up and refuse to support Q-emuLator.
>
> Dilwyn
>
> -Original Message- From: Norman Dunbar
> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 1:33 PM
> To: ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com
> Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Q-emuLator video
>
>
> Hi Dilwyn,
>
> On 21/05/13 13:30, Dilwyn Jones wrote:
>
>> Anyone know how to get Q-emuLator to work in 2:1 windows mode?
>>
> Is it perhaps something to do with the ratio between the dimensions? 384
> scaled to 256 is going to be weird as you don;t have the same scaling on
> the 512 width?
>
> Just a thought. Sorry if it's no good.
>
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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQE v.3.16

[Lee Privett]

This sounds really good Wolfgang, excellent work.
On 18 May 2013 09:15, "Wolfgang Lenerz"  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> SMSQ/E 3.16 is out.
> It contains Marcel's bug fix for the AURORA COLOUR_NATIVE command.
>
> There is also a new window move mode : move with transparency.
>
> (This is an extract of the display_txt file in the extras_new directory:)
>
> a - New move mode
> --
>
> The WM_MOVEMODE keyword has been extended to accept a new move mode:
>
> WM_MOVEMODE 3 : the "full window with transparency" move
>
> The window to be moved is made "transparent" : one can "see through" it.
> This is done via "alpha blending". Alpha blending requires A LOT of
> computing power. So, even if your machine can theoretically handle this
> type of move, in practice it might not be feasible. I don't believe, for
> example, that the QXL can handle it
> For Q40/Q60 users, switching on the Cache is advisable...
>
> This type of move is only implemented for display modes where alpha
> blending actually makes sense, i.e. modes 16, 32 and 33. In other display
> modes, such as the QL screen modes, or Atari mono modes, this will be
> redirected to move mode 2.
>
> Please note that you cannot use this move mode with anything but the mouse
> - the keyboard (cursor keys) will not work.
>
>
> b - Configuring/setting the move mode
> --**---
>
> The move modes are configured on a system-wide basis - you cannot have
> onejob moving in mode 0 and the other in mode 1.
>
> Thus, all jobs are affected by the move mode, even those written a long
> time ago (unless, such as Qlib, the job doesn't use the WMAN move routine).
>
> The move mode can be changed in two ways:
>
> 1 - Configure SMSQ/E  (WMAN) to a mode of your liking.
>
> 2 - Use the new WM_MOVEMODE keyword
>
> This takes one parameter, an integer from 0 to 3:
>
> WM_MOVEMODE 0 : the old way
>
> WM_MOVEMODE 1 : the "outline" move
>
> WM_MOVEMODE 2 : the "full window" move
>
> WM_MOVEMODE 3 : the "full window with transparency" move
>
>
> c - Configuring/setting the degree of transparency : WM_MOVEALPHA
> --**--**--
> You can set how transparent the window is supposed to be when being moved,
> from nearly totally transparent to totally opaque. This is done by setting
> the "alpha value", from 1 (nearly transparent) to 255 (totally opaque).
>
> The alpha value is configured on a system-wide basis - you cannot have one
> job moving with an alpha value of 100 and the other with 200.
>
> Thus, all jobs are affected by this, even those written a long time
> ago (unless, such as Qlib, the job doesn't use the WMAN move routine).
>
> The alpha value can be changed in two ways:
>
> 1 - Configure SMSQ/E  (WMAN) to a value of your liking.
>
> 2 - Use the new WM_MOVEALPHA keyword
>
> WM_MOVEALPHA : this new keyword defines the amount of transparency the
> window should have when moved about, from 1 (nearly transparent) to 255
> (totally opaque).
>
> Please note that
> 1) no check is made on the value passed to this keyword, but only the
> lower byte is used.
> 2) a value of 255 is actually equivalent to move mode 2.
> 3) a value of 0 is allowed but, since this would make the window to be
> moved totally transparent when it is moved (i.e. you would only ever see
> the background) this is considered to be an error and a value of 255 will
> be used!
> 4) alpha blending requires a lot of computing power - it may be too slow
> on your machine.
>
>
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Re: [Ql-Users] AGM

[Lee Privett]

Yes it did, there were a number of pictures posted on the forum with brief 
details.

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On 25 Apr 2013, at 11:38, Bryan Horstmann  wrote:

> Although local, I wasn't able to attend the AGM; I'm surprised that there 
> hasn't been a word about it here.  Did it actually happen?
> 
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today

[Lee Privett]

Sadly QL Today and QUANTA have both suffered from a lack of copy and Geoff is 
quite right about the small number of contributors and reliance on them. I 
would like to spend more time on QL projects but my spare time is all taken up 
with editorialising (Norman have fun with that word). In response to vanpeebles 
comment about not knowing what to write about, the next issue of QUANTA will 
have such a list to give would be contributors that very start. Geoff would 
probably welcome in QL Today as well as I do for QUANTA, and regularly stated 
in the magazine, no contribution is to small.

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On 20 Mar 2013, at 20:02, peet vanpeebles  wrote:

>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Ian Burkinshaw 
>> To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
>> Cc: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, 27 March 2013, 19:19
>> Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today
>> 
>> Thankyou to everybody for correcting my grammer, I am now considered told 
>> off.
>> 
>> Back to QLToday. Question, how do we get more people to write stuff ?
>> 
>> It is clear from the posts on here, that there is still a good following and 
>> lots of good stuff going on. But it does not all get written up for >the 
>> wider audience.
>> 
>> Seems to me, down to a very small number that contribute. One item from 
>> every QL user would keep us going for years. But we have >all seen the 
>> appeals for material, and nothing seems to come.
>> 
>> To use the buzz word from my own industry (Broadcast TV), it's all down to 
>> content. We need content.
>> 
>> Ian
> 
> 
> 
>  
> On a personal note I'm terrible at thinking of things to write about so maybe 
> people thinking up topics would be good. The hardest bit for me is just to 
> start typing out something. Or what would people like to see reviewed etc? We 
> have lots of interesting characters in the QL scene with a long history so 
> maybe regular interview columns or old tales etc?   
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today

[Lee Privett]

Tony, that was a definite lol (😃😊😃) moment.


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On 20 Mar 2013, at 21:06, Tony Firshman  wrote:

> On Wednesday, March 27, 2013, Ian Burkinshaw wrote:
> 
>> Thankyou to everybody for correcting my grammer, I am now considered told
>> off.
> 
>  so I had better not tell you of for your spelling  of 'grammar'
> then (8-)#
> 
> 
> Tony
> 
>> 
>> Back to QLToday. Question, how do we get more
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> people to write stuff ?
>> 
>> It is clear from the posts on here, that there is still a good following
>> and lots of good stuff going on. But it does not all get written up for the
>> wider audience.
>> 
>> Seems to me, down to a very small number that contribute. One item from
>> every QL user would keep us going for years. But we have all seen the
>> appeals for material, and nothing seems to come.
>> 
>> To use the buzz word from my own industry (Broadcast TV), it's all down to
>> content. We need content.
>> 
>> Ian
>> - Original Message - From: "George Gwilt" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 6:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 20 Mar 2013, at 18:18, Tony Firshman wrote:
>>> 
>>> George Gwilt wrote, on 20/Mar/13 18:07 | Mar20:
 
> 
> On 20 Mar 2013, at 18:00, Tony Firshman wrote:
> 
> Ian Burkinshaw wrote, on 27/Mar/13 17:46 | Mar27:
>> 
>>> Sad though this is, I have to say it seems me inevitable this was
>>> going
>>> to happen sooner or later. The constant increase in postal rates is
>>> self
>>> defeating, the more they go up, the less poeple send.
>> Really - so one leg is sending letters (8-)#
>> You mean 'fewer' of course.
> 
> "the less people send" means "the same number of people send less in
> total".
 
 Not at all, but maybe it is different in Glasgow (8-)#
 
 'Less' and 'Fewer' are referring to 'people' not the letters.
 
 Fewer - when the noun can be counted. People, marbles
 Less - when it cannot. Flour, petrol.
>>> 
>>> Why say there is less sand on the beach when you could, if you had time,
>>> count the grains?
>>> 
>>> 
> The other meaning would presumably be written as
> 
> "the smaller the number of people who send"
> 
> Anyway postage is rather high now and certainly to be avoided if
> possible.
> 
> The small newsletter produced by the Scottish group SQLUG is now
> emailed to members.
> 
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today

[Lee Privett]

Hence my request :)



On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Norman Dunbar wrote:

> On 19/03/13 21:29, Lee Privett wrote:
>
>> Norman can you write something for The SUN, loads more to follow.
>>
> Aha! I sense a new direction coming on, Instead of killing off
> publications I like and subscribe to, I can write for the tabloids, and
> hopefully, kill them off as well.
>
> It troubles me a lot, that the best selling "newspaper" in the UK is the
> garbage known as "The Sun". :-)
>
>
> Cheers,
> Norm.
>
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today

[Lee Privett]

Norman can you write something for The SUN, loads more to follow.

Sent from my iPhone

On 19 Mar 2013, at 16:15, Norman Dunbar  wrote:

> On 19/03/13 14:16, peet vanpeebles wrote:
> 
>> One thing that made me very sad  the next issue which will be brought up 
>> in September may with a DVD or CD will be the last issue of QL Today. I love 
>> to receive QL Today (as a print magazine) ... what can we do?
> What! But I'm not finished my series on Assembly yet! I'm only half way 
> through LibGen for goodness sake! :-(
> 
> I haven't got mine yet, but if this is true, I apologies. I've caused the 
> demise of yet another great QL magazine! Every one of the three I've written 
> for has closed. I'm a jinx!
> 
> I am officially distraught.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Norm.
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Re: [Ql-Users] Fonts

[Lee Privett]

Thanks Dave, I would not say violent agreement, just a discussion
that’s all!

The wiki describes original designs going back to 1954, so there maybe
a 'Syntax' version that is close or identical. From the links it
appears there are many variations of the 'Syntax' family and
derivatives. The 'Syntax' font download  from the link you supplied
"font palace" is indeed similar, however the Q tail is tapered towards
the circle and not the same as the original box design. I have now
three different versions of "Syntax" (no added classes) and one called
Syntax Two (which is closer than Syntax) however none of these are
exactly the same as the original design that I can see although I
stand to be corrected. I still say the SYNTAX® NEXT MEDIUM PRO seems
to me the closest. If Ralf can let us know where his version is from I
would like to see for myself.

Regards, 
Lee Privett




-Original Message-
From: ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com
[mailto:ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of Dave Park
Sent: 03 March 2013 15:45
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Fonts

I found this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syntax_(typeface)

And this: http://www.fontpalace.com/font-download/Syntax/

Fun times!

Dave


On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Dave Park 
wrote:

> I believe you guys are in violent agreement.
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Ralf Reköndt
wrote:
>
>> As Syntax Next Medium Pro was designed in 2000, it can't be the
font. 
>> I have an original Syntax font, be sure it *is* the font used by
Sinclair.
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Lee Privett"
>>
>>
>>
>> Actually Ralf, it is not the font 'Syntax', the actual closest font

>> is SYNTAX® NEXT MEDIUM PRO, a professional font (by Linotype as you
>> mentioned) designed by H E Meier in 2000 which puts it way beyond
in 
>> years, the original one used by Sinclair in 1983/84 for box the QL 
>> initially came in. The font used by Dilwyn's site is a damn close 
>> facsimile and good for most basic uses. The 'Syntax' font you 
>> mentioned does not have the correct Q as it contains a tail going
in 
>> to the circle, the original Q doesn't. For a visual example
obtained 
>> from a forum where I put the original request , see here
>> http://www.fonts101.com/c/**forum/topic/11130/Font_o_Talk/**
>>
Identifying_a_<http://www.fonts101.com/c/forum/topic/11130/Font_o_Tal
>> k/Identifying_a_> Font_Request_closed. For real picky people you
will 
>> also see, if you look carefully, that the width of the circle part
of 
>> the Q is not constant around the circumference although quite 
>> circular and although the SYNTAX® NEXT MEDIUM PRO is very close it
is 
>> still not exactly the same and slightly oval. If anyone does come 
>> across the original font used for the box on the Sinclair QL 
>> packaging I would be grateful. I now realise I am starting to sound

>> like a 'font nerd' (if there is such a thing), so apologies for
that 
>> :)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Lee Privett
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 
>>
ql-users-bounces@lists.q-v-d.**com
>>
[mailto:ql-users-bounces@**lists.q-v-d.com> -d.com>]
>> On Behalf Of Ralf Reköndt
>> Sent: 03 March 2013 10:37
>> To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
>> Subject: [Ql-Users] Fonts
>>
>> Hi Dilwyn,
>>
>> a little correction for your site:
>>
>> The font used by Sinclair for their adverts was not
>>
>> "Saxony-Serial-Regular is a font which was used in QL advertising
and 
>> documentation"
>>
>> In fact, the font used was "Syntax", a Linotype font. The 
>> Saxony-Serial-Regular seems to be a derivat with minor changes to 
>> make it a free font.
>>
>> Cheers...Ralf
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Re: [Ql-Users] Fonts

[Lee Privett]

Actually Ralf, it is not the font 'Syntax', the actual closest font is
SYNTAX® NEXT MEDIUM PRO, a professional font (by Linotype as you
mentioned) designed by H E Meier in 2000 which puts it way beyond in
years, the original one used by Sinclair in 1983/84 for box the QL
initially came in. The font used by Dilwyn's site is a damn close
facsimile and good for most basic uses. The 'Syntax' font you
mentioned does not have the correct Q as it contains a tail going in
to the circle, the original Q doesn’t. For a visual example obtained
from a forum where I put the original request , see here
http://www.fonts101.com/c/forum/topic/11130/Font_o_Talk/Identifying_a_
Font_Request_closed. For real picky people you will also see, if you
look carefully, that the width of the circle part of the Q is not
constant around the circumference although quite circular and although
the SYNTAX® NEXT MEDIUM PRO is very close it is still not exactly the
same and slightly oval. If anyone does come across the original font
used for the box on the Sinclair QL packaging I would be grateful. I
now realise I am starting to sound like a 'font nerd' (if there is
such a thing), so apologies for that :)

Regards, 
Lee Privett


-Original Message-
From: ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com
[mailto:ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of Ralf Reköndt
Sent: 03 March 2013 10:37
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Subject: [Ql-Users] Fonts

Hi Dilwyn,

a little correction for your site:

The font used by Sinclair for their adverts was not

"Saxony-Serial-Regular is a font which was used in QL advertising and
documentation"

In fact, the font used was "Syntax", a Linotype font. The
Saxony-Serial-Regular seems to be a derivat with minor changes to make
it a free font.

Cheers...Ralf 

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Re: [Ql-Users] Fw: Acrobatic QL

[Lee Privett]

Sounds like a 'memory location corruption' affecting seemingly random parts
of possible buffer areas, is there a memory test for every location that
can br run, NOT like the normal QL memory test that isn't?

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 9:05 PM, Dilwyn Jones
wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> I received the email below from a Quanta member. Can anyone help?
> He hasn’t mentioned what add-ons are on his QL, I suspect if it’s a Super
> Gold Card or Minerva it might be set to restart automatically (e.g.
> AUTO_TK2F1 or AUTO_TK2F2 on SGC, in which case AUTO_DIS might remove it),
> or maybe a battery backup failure or such like, but I don’t really know.
> Anyone able to help him any more than I can?
> Dilwyn Jones
>
>
> 
>
> My QL/Aurora is behaving oddly.
>
>
> Some time ago, on start-up, the small window which offers a choice between
> F1, or F2, was briefly glimpsed in a flash, never to be seen again, but the
> machine started irrespective of this fault. Things remained this way for
> many months. Then the other day it decided to re-appear, but only for one
> occasion. Then has disappeared again.
>
>
>
> The next quirk was that whilst writing a Basic program, which contained a
> line of the form LINE#6, x1,y1 TO x2,y2, there was a complete refusal to
> accept a change to the line, but on moving to a similar line in a different
> part of the program, change to an almost identical line was accepted.
>
>
>
> The third quirk occurred when using Archive.  An alteration to one line in
> a data record file produced no character from many keyboard presses, but on
> moving to another data record file in the same data base everything
> responded as normal.
>
>
>
> Can anyone deduce from the above, where the problem lies. Is it hardware
> in the form of a failing chip? Or poor contacts? The machine generally is
> used in short bursts, to look up an address, or to a record of a
> transaction. Only during the Basic program writing has it been used for
> several consecutive hours, and perhaps two weeks of consecutive days. The
> third quirk occurred after this period of use.
>
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Re: [Ql-Users] Ql-Users Digest, Vol 108, Issue 12

[Lee Privett]

Hmmm I just remembered how Thelma and Louise ended :-)

On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 8:08 AM, peet vanpeebles  wrote:

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> >To: ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com
> >Sent: Monday, 11 February 2013, 0:59
> >Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Ql-Users Digest, Vol 108, Issue 12
> >
> >Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 13:04:21 -0500
> >From: paul 
> >To: ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com
> >Subject: [Ql-Users] On The Road Again!
> >
> > Heard from Mr park this am, Seems he is 1/3 the way
> > on his 2,300 mile QL 'collection' trip, and so far
> > so good.  The Weather hasn't impeded him YET!
> >
> >Greetings all, Mr Park has been, ended up collecting a few more
> >odd bits and pieces, and for some reason I didn't ask that
> >anything he was already carrying be left behind. It broke my back
> >But maybe It created a little extra good will on the home front,
> >More went out then came in.  :-)
> >
> >I wish he and his cargo well on the last (LONG) leg of his trip.
> >
> >(Psst, a little birdy suggests there might be some good news out
> >of all this a little later for the QL using community)
>
> I hope all the goodies arn't bouncing around in the back of his pick up
> bed! I'd love a road trip like that, it would be a bit like the film Two
> Lane blacktop :)
>
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Re: [Ql-Users] Snowbound?

[Lee Privett]

My first teaching job was at Newham Community College, as it was then
Geoff, small world :)

Regards, 
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[mailto:ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of Geoff Wicks
Sent: 19 January 2013 12:48
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Snowbound?



--
From: "Lee" 
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 8:34 AM
To: 
Cc: 
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Snowbound?

> Light dusting of snow here in sunny oops cloudy Sarfend on Sea
> 

That brings back memories.

When I was a 'bation officer in Newham lots of my clients went to
Sarfend,

Best Wishes,



Geoff  

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Re: [Ql-Users] Quick QL Today Survey

[Lee Privett]

I concur, as well as any QL related articles, feedback positive or
otherwise gives atleast  an indication of something that has prompted
people in to a response. Norman, I read your Black Hole article with
interest on the DVD collection last year and likewise there are articles
about machine code, assembler, C etc. that I struggle to understand (being
more of a S*BASIC fan/user), does not mean I dont enjoy reading them, I do.

May I point also out that as the Sinclair QL approaches its 30th year, and
that today the C5 was launched (ahem) according to the radio and wikipedia
in 1985. To encourage new and possibly returning people to the auspices of
the QL and systems, the retelling, updating or reiterating such articles in
todays fast paced society wouldn't do any harm if contextulised well.  As
Geoff mentioned about games, other than IT support industry, careers
involving computers are fairly similar, if you want to get into the
Computer Games Industry (which has seen the biggest growth in recent years)
as a programmer there are several ways in which you can do this by learning
machine code, assembler high level languages based around the 'C' family as
already mentioned. However a knowledge of retro computing; skills in a
procedural language; being able to program in other languages as well as
those expected, could do just that.

May I make a plea for such contributions to either magazine, it is much
needed and welcomed.

Regards

Lee Privett
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Geoff Wicks wrote:

>
>
> --**
> From: "Norman Dunbar" 
> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 10:55 AM
> To: 
> Subject: [Ql-Users] Quick QL Today Survey
>
>
>  As an author of a couple of articles in QL Today over the past 16 volumes
>> (That's 16.5 years - my first article was "The Black Hole" in Volume 1,
>> Issue 2 in July/August 1996!) I'm wondering, who (other than George)
>> actually reads my stuff?
>>
>> Anyone?
>>
>> Is it useful? Do you make use of it? What could be better? What would you
>> like to see? Etc.
>>
>> Just wondering, that is all.
>>
>>
> It is not just on your articles I would like feedback. There has been more
> emphasis on hardware in the last couple of years. Is this what people want?
> More recently we have had more coverage on games - a largely forgotten area
> in the magazines. I am also concerned about the lack of SuperBasic and
> general articles.
>
> Even if you don't want to write yourself it is always useful to have ideas.
>
> I am sure these comments would be echoed by the Quanta Magazine. I think I
> am the only person to have ever commented on the successful efforts that
> have been made to have a regular helpline,
>
> Best Wishes,
>
>
> Geoff
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Re: [Ql-Users] Happy New Year

[Lee Privett]

So far so good, already the first few days since Jan 1 have been better than 
last year:) and counting

Sent from my iPhone

On 2 Jan 2013, at 18:21, Dave Park  wrote:

> My hope and wish is that everyone has a better 2013 than 2012.
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 9:32 AM, QL-MyLink (f/fh) 
> wrote:
> 
>> Frank said -
>> 
>> 
>> "May I be the first to wish the entire QL community a very happy new
>> year!"
>> 
>> Thank you Frank; and may I be the first to thank you on behalf of all list
>> readers? [Promotion... at last!]
>> 
>> Regards and best wishes to all,
>> 
>> John in Wales
>> 
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Re: [Ql-Users] A3 scanner

[Lee Privett]

Interestingly the new iPhone 5 has an app called Panorama designed to 
continuously take very wide pictures while you move the camera/phone and 
automatically stitches the slices together using sophisticated software to 
remove artefacts etc.

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On 13 Sep 2012, at 16:08, Dilwyn Jones wrote:

>> Have you Freegle/Freecyce round there, Dilwyn?   It is surprising what 
>> un-usual things can be found from a Wanted posting.
>> 
>> Bryan H
> Ah, great idea, thanks Bryan. I'm not aware of one of those around here but 
> I'll see what I can find.
> 
> Unfortunately, some of the items to be scanned are historical and fragile, so 
> I'd rather not entrust them to scanning services or risk postal damage, hence 
> why I'd prefer to get a scanner for this job if I can, and after that keep it 
> for any future such work. There's no great rush or urgent deadlines, though 
> and I'll try Lee's suggestion of photographing with a good resolution camera 
> when I get time to set up a suitable stand.
> 
> A3 scanners seem surprisingly rare and expensive.
> 
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Re: [Ql-Users] A3 scanner

[Lee Privett]

have you thought of photographing the documents with a high resolution camera?

My local coop allow A3/A4 scanning and copying, Boots may also offer something 

Lee Privett
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On 12 Sep 2012, at 16:40, Dilwyn Jones wrote:

> I don’t suppose anyone on this list has a second-hand A3 scanner they’d like 
> to sell?
> 
> I need to scan some documents (with photos) of roughly A3 size and stitching 
> 2xA4 scans together doesn’t really work – the ‘stitching’ looks awful when 
> the two halves are joined after scanning.
> 
> I know A3 scanners can be bought for about £200 on the internet, but the job 
> isn’t really big enough to justify buying a brand new scanner, so I thought I 
> might as well offer to buy second hand off a QLer first. It will be used with 
> a Windows 7 PC (the scanner, not the QLer).
> 
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[Ql-Users] in a PiQL so to speak (pun intended)

[Lee Privett]

Has anyone been able to compile uQLx in Linux either the raspberry Pi or any 
other ARM based processor, following through the reported errors and the 
included documentation leads me to believe this is where the sticking point is.

I have tried alternatively to get WINE running on the Pi also, to see if that 
would be another possible route, also without success. I am a very green newbie 
to Linux so any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Re: [Ql-Users] Where has Knoware gone?

[Lee Privett]

This isn't the guy I suppose?

http://soundcloud.com/per-witte

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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator

[Lee Privett]

Cant resist, we got a mention again at a recent Spectrum Anniversary by the 
RaspBerry Pi guru Eben 32 minutes in to the video

see it here on Youtube 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKt-3lFYzYg&feature=player_embedded 

or currently on their website here http://www.raspberrypi.org/ 




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Re: [Ql-Users] WMAN Weirdness!

[Lee Privett]

As a deputy, I am grateful...





On 3 May 2012, at 23:02, Malcolm Cadman wrote:

> In message <4fa22264.9010...@dunbar-it.co.uk>, Norman Dunbar 
>  writes
>> On 02/05/12 22:14, Malcolm Cadman wrote:
>> 
>>> As the great Bob (Marley) sang ... no WMAN no cry . :-)
>> 
>> And we all know how Bob Marley likes his donuts?
>> We Jammin.
>> 
>> (You started it!)
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Norm.
> 
> 'Cos I knew you would appreciate the humour, my man .
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Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi - starts

[Lee Privett]

Google image is very retro today ZX Spectrum anyone
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Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi - starts

[Lee Privett]

ditto

On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Tony Firshman  wrote:

>
>
> On 19 Apr 2012, at 06:00, Bryan Horstmann  wrote:
>
> > I've had a look at Python too, Malcolm, and found "Python Languages &
> Syntax Cheat Sheet".  Under basic arithmetic it says "i=a%b   e.g.  11%3 >
> 2"  I cannot make sense of that.  I'll just hope that we can get an
> emulator and stick to SBASIC I know.  But if RS have 220,000 outstanding
> orders, it'll be some time before I get one!
> >
> I bet this includes a lot of duplicate 'registration of interest '  They
> still have not even asked if I even want to place an order, which I don't.
>  In fact succesfully placed an order with Farnell on the second day.
>
> Tony
> > Bryas
> Nice to misprint ones own name! Well unless I altered it by mistake. I
> quite often type 'Tiny'!
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Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi - starts

[Lee Privett]

Someone already has atleast one emulator running on the Pi

http://www.raspberrypi.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/simcoupe.jpg




On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 1:00 AM, Tony Firshman  wrote:

>
>
> On 16 Apr 2012, at 17:19, Malcolm Cadman  wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Reading the Raspberry Pi web site - with some interesting videos - the
> first production "Pi"'s have been delivered to a School in Leeds, UK. On
> Monday 16th April 2012.
> >
> > Delivery of early orders is now expected from Friday 20th April 2012.
> >
> > I wonder who will be the 'ql-er' to receive one ... :-)
> >
>
> I am in the USA until the 25th, so it would be really ironic if mine
> arrived before then.
>
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Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta Library Guide

[Lee Privett]

*Quote* *"PS. I have downloaded Q-Emulator and I've also tested it with JS
and Minerva ROMS. Same problems as everyone, JS fails. One thing is
exceedingly clear, we didn't half put up with really slow responses back in
1984 didn't we? God it's slow in QL mode! ;-)"*

Bear in mind a 30 second advert on TV scarcely got through its ident and
strapline, todays fast paced flashing images and 3 worded catch
phrase aimed at the young market do it in half the time. tolerance and
expectation are the norm Norm. Students we get from school nowadays have a
very short attention span and activities have to be in 10 minute bursts
otherwise bordem and pandemonium become the issue you then have to deal
with. My personal feeling on this point is this i sa result of fast food
(content of chemicals not the name) fizzy drinks and all the chemicals it
entails affecting 2nd & 3rd generation people. The BB QL emulated or not,
is still faster than a Windows PC booting up from power on, isn't it?





On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Norman Dunbar wrote:

> On 16/04/12 12:56, Rich Mellor wrote:
>
>> I have forwarded the files and details to Daniele so that he can
>> investigate further.
>>
>
> Aha, this means I'm off the hook, for now! ;-)
>
> Cheers,
> Norm.
>
> PS. I have downloaded Q-Emulator and I've also tested it with JS and
> Minerva ROMS. Same problems as everyone, JS fails. One thing is exceedingly
> clear, we didn't half put up with really slow responses back in 1984 didn't
> we? God it's slow in QL mode! ;-)
>
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Re: [Ql-Users] FORMAT ram1_mdv2 Oddities

[Lee Privett]

Just a thought, it wouldn't be a microswitch problem on the drive itself?

On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Rich Mellor wrote:

> On 15/04/2012 20:20, Tobias Fröschle wrote:
>
>> Ralf, Rich,
>> the manual says different (From the Trump card manual):
>> "   FORMAT ram1_mdv2  loads an image of mdv2 into RAM Disk 1
>> The RAM Disk can even load a Microdrive with a damaged directory. It
>> cannot, however, load a Microdrive with a damaged map."
>>
>> Note the example - It's identical to what Rich tried to do, so it should
>> work on drive 2, too. From what you write, Rich, I understand mdv2_ is
>> working fine on other commands?
>> Did you try on a newly reset machine?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Tobias
>>
>>
>>
> Yes - FORMAT ram1_mdv2 works on other QLs
>
> Just this one has problems - it works fine on other commands, and a clean
> reset has no effect.
>
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Re: [Ql-Users] A touch of the Gwilts

[Lee Privett]

I have never seen the ones I have posted here on the Ql-users list, I don't 
know why unfortunately, I use to worry about, then someone replied :). I seem 
to remember someone saying something about having a gmail account and the way 
Google operates.





On 3 Apr 2012, at 18:52, Geoff Wicks wrote:

> Just to let everyone know that I am beginning to experience the same problems 
> that George Gwilt has reported.
> 
> About 10 days ago I stopped getting all the mailings from this group 
> including those I have sent myself.
> 
> I cannot understand why this is happening, and why some are coming through 
> and others not. Anyone else with the problem,
> 
> Best Wishes,
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Ql-Users] Jan Jones

[Lee Privett]

Guys, I feel it would be remiss not to mention that owning the book (which I 
do) is one thing, however obtaining an electronic version from somebody else 
may indeed break copyright especially if the copyright owner has not yet agreed 
to this, however I do not know enough about copyright to positively state one 
way or the other. 

Lee Privett


On 1 Apr 2012, at 11:29, Billy wrote:

> On 31/03/2012 22:52, Timothy Swenson wrote:
>> For those interested, I scanned the doc, checked that that image to text 
>> worked well, but did not include the diagrams.  I have each chapter in a 
>> .doc file.  I can zip it up and send it to whomever.  No need to re-invent 
>> the wheel.
>> 
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> Hi Tim
> Yes please , I have the book so can't see any copyright issue.
> I'm looking at doing similar with Rich's Qhelp but god knows when I get the 
> time, also as Rick is still active I would have to send it to him to to 
> distribute unless I can persuade him to sell me the Doc file or whatever it's 
> in.
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Re: [Ql-Users] Jan Jones

[Lee Privett]

Do we know if Dave was successful?

On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Norman Dunbar wrote:

> On 28/03/12 13:37, Lee Privett wrote:
>
>> I think it may have been Malcolm, I did supply a regenerated front cover
>> for that very purpose. The sticking point (I believe) was about contacting
>> Jan Jones for permission for it to go out in to the wide world in
>> electronic form.
>>
>
> Thanks Lee. I found an email from some time back and it was Dave Park,
> although Malcolm was involved as well along the line.
>
> Dave had sought permission from Jan Jones "for permission to
> reprint/reformat it (whatever she agrees to) so a cleaner copy is available
> to the community than the scan that is generally available..."
>
> Who knows, I might find time to do something with it myself ..
>
>
>
> Cheers,
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Re: [Ql-Users] Jan Jones

[Lee Privett]

I think it may have been Malcolm, I did supply a regenerated front cover
for that very purpose. The sticking point (I believe) was about contacting
Jan Jones for permission for it to go out in to the wide world in
electronic form.

On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Norman Dunbar wrote:

> There was talk on this list some time ago, about someone converting the
> Jan Jones SuperBasic book to pdf. (Was it Dave Park?)
>
> I was wondering if any progress had been made?
>
> Cheers,
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Re: [Ql-Users] UK Postal Increases

[Lee Privett]

2p in 1984 is roughly worth about 5p today

Your QL, bought for £399 in 1984 would have the equivalent purchasing power
today of around £1052.28 according to the Bank of England.

So what QL equivalent can you buy for around £1000 now?

On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Dilwyn Jones  wrote:

> Pete van Peebles wrote:
>
>>
>> In todays climate your 2p worth is probably closer to 20p Not to mention
>> the upcoming opinion tax :p
>>
>> Pete.
>>
> Never mind the "opinion tax" - our beloved Chancellor is now to tax
> cornish pasties and certain take-away foods. I've just heard on the radio
> that it's to be called the Pie Tax and taxed at the rate of 3.1415926... %
>
> :o)
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Re: [Ql-Users] UK Postal Increases

[Lee Privett]

I do not believe that the rises were as a result of more people using email
either.

Most of my post (ignoring freebies/statements and junk mail) relates around
stuff I purchase or sell on line, eBay and the like must be generating a
lot of traffic on their own.

Anyway I have considered sending the content of this email to everyone on
the user list in a letter, which I will print out on paper and put in an
evelope (also at my expensive) I will drive to the nearest Post office for
such duties as my local one within walking distance has closed now. Buy the
stamps, place the stamps on the envelopes and shove through a letter box
and drive back. Oh wait a minute I dont have anyones address. I will leave
it here in that case, if only the QL had a method for communicating between
likeminded people...

Technically 2 pence worth equates without inflation to 0.8333 in new money

2D = 0.833p




On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 11:12 AM, peet vanpeebles <
peetvanpeeb...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> From: Norman Dunbar 
> To: ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com
> Sent: Wednesday, 28 March 2012, 10:11
> Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] UK Postal Increases
>
> On 27/03/12 19:50, Rich Mellor wrote:
> > Following the announcement of the new UK postal rates from 30th April, I
> > have done a quick calculation based on keyboard membranes, our most
> > popular item.
> Those costs increases are diabolical. If the post office aka Royal Mail
> wants to encourage customers, it should be dropping its prices. Not pricing
> people away.
>
> Just my £0.02.
>
> Cheers,
> Norm.
>
> 
>
> In todays climate your 2p worth is probably closer to 20p Not to mention
> the upcoming opinion tax :p
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Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 vs Q-emuLator

[Lee Privett]

Thanks Dilwyn, tried that and it has worked yippee





On 16 Mar 2012, at 19:03, Dilwyn Jones wrote:

> Lee Privett  wrote:
> 
>> I am running both of these programs on a Macbook Pro
>> 
>> Now Mac people will know that there is no # key and you have to ALT 3 to get 
>> it.
>> 
>> This works fine on Q-EmuLator the ALT 3 produces the # character as expected.
>> 
>> Not the same for OPC2 unfortunately , I am running this Windows program under
>> WINE (through Play on MAC), when the initial configuration window comes up if
>> I select devices and obtain a text box the ALT 3 works a charm producing #
>> characters, however  when getting past the configuration and into QPC2 proper
>> i.e. QL emulation enhanced, the ALT 3 just produces 3. I cannot seem to get 
>> the
>> # character at all in QPC2.
>> 
> This will probably sound silly, but is there any chance the ALTKEY '3','#' in 
> your boot program for QPC2 might be a temporary solution until you can work 
> out how to proceed? (Or am I misunderstanding the problem?)
> 
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[Ql-Users] QPC2 vs Q-emuLator

[Lee Privett]

I am running both of these programs on a Macbook Pro

Now Mac people will know that there is no # key and you have to ALT 3 to get it.

This works fine on Q-EmuLator the ALT 3 produces the # character as expected.

Not the same for OPC2 unfortunately , I am running this Windows program under 
WINE (through Play on MAC), when the initial configuration window comes up if I 
select devices and obtain a text box the ALT 3 works a charm producing  # 
characters, however  when getting past the configuration and into QPC2 proper 
i.e. QL emulation enhanced, the ALT 3 just produces 3. I cannot seem to get the 
# character at all in QPC2.

Any ideas?  

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Re: [Ql-Users] Release of the Sinclair QL Games Collection 1

[Lee Privett]

Just another thought, in theory if it runs under WINE it should run on the Pi.


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On 10 Mar 2012, at 10:23, Bryan Horstmann wrote:

> On 10/03/2012 09:02, Rich Mellor wrote:
>> On 9 Mar 2012, at 21:21, Malcolm Cadman wrote:
>>>> In message<4f59d89c.9080...@rwapservices.co.uk>, Rich 
>>>> Mellor  writes
>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks to work by Daniele Terdina and Jiri Dolezal, we have now released 
>>>>> the Sinclair QL Games Collection 1.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is a set of 10 commercial games for you to play on a Windows based 
>>>>> PC, running under Q-emulator for £10
>>>>> 
>>>>> We hope this will help distil the comments that the QL was only ever a 
>>>>> business machine and will hopefully help promote the QL itself.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The games included are:
>>>>> 
>>>>> *  Cuthbert in Space by Steve Bak and S J Proctor
>>>>> *  Deathstrike by Damon Chaplin and T. Bovingdon
>>>>> *  Hoverzone by R G Riley
>>>>> *  Jungle Eddi by Stefan Kuhne
>>>>> *  QL Hopper by Steve Bak and S J Proctor
>>>>> *  QL Pengi by Jochen Merz and R. Bieniek
>>>>> *  QL Vroom by Daniel Macré
>>>>> *  Stone Raider II by Alex J Herbert
>>>>> *  The King by C H Robertson Consultants
>>>>> *  The Lost Pharaoh by Stefan Kuhne
>>>>> 
>>>>> More details appear at:
>>>>> http://www.sellmyretro.com/offer/details/Sinclair_QL_Games_Collection_1-2152
>>>>>  
>>>> Hi Rich,
>>>> 
>>>> Wow! Well done to you, and the guys ... :-)
>>>> 
>>>> I am not a game player, myself, yet it all helps to promote the QL and 
>>>> re-new its life.
>>>> 
>>>> I guess that the Games will all run under QPC2, too?
>>>> 
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>> On 09/03/2012 21:53, Lee Privett wrote:
>>> The games are accessed/linked to a menu that runs Q-emulator in a kind of 
>>> runtime version.
>>> 
>>> Editor
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>>> http://www.QUANTA.org.uk
>> 
>> The games are available individually (some run under QPC2, with it set at 
>> 512x256, 8 colour mode), or as this special package.
>> 
>> The special package includes a runtime version of q-emulator, which is then 
>> used to run the games - there is just one file containing the games and the 
>> runtime emulator, so that you cannot download the individual games onto a 
>> standard QL or another emulator.
>> 
>> 
> Does that mean that they are on a PC disk and can be run on any PC without a 
> separate emulator installed, please?
> 
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Re: [Ql-Users] Release of the Sinclair QL Games Collection 1

[Lee Privett]

Yes I believe so, although I am actually running the package on a MAC with 
WINE/Play on MAC doing the Windows bit


 "This is a collection of 10 commercial games written for the Sinclair QL, now 
released as a package for download and installing on your Windows based PC.  A 
special launcher program then allows you to select which game you wish to play 
and this is then launched to run within a custom built version of the 
Q-emuLator Sinclair QL emulator"

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On 10 Mar 2012, at 10:23, Bryan Horstmann wrote:

> On 10/03/2012 09:02, Rich Mellor wrote:
>> On 9 Mar 2012, at 21:21, Malcolm Cadman wrote:
>>>> In message<4f59d89c.9080...@rwapservices.co.uk>, Rich 
>>>> Mellor  writes
>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks to work by Daniele Terdina and Jiri Dolezal, we have now released 
>>>>> the Sinclair QL Games Collection 1.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is a set of 10 commercial games for you to play on a Windows based 
>>>>> PC, running under Q-emulator for £10
>>>>> 
>>>>> We hope this will help distil the comments that the QL was only ever a 
>>>>> business machine and will hopefully help promote the QL itself.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The games included are:
>>>>> 
>>>>> *  Cuthbert in Space by Steve Bak and S J Proctor
>>>>> *  Deathstrike by Damon Chaplin and T. Bovingdon
>>>>> *  Hoverzone by R G Riley
>>>>> *  Jungle Eddi by Stefan Kuhne
>>>>> *  QL Hopper by Steve Bak and S J Proctor
>>>>> *  QL Pengi by Jochen Merz and R. Bieniek
>>>>> *  QL Vroom by Daniel Macré
>>>>> *  Stone Raider II by Alex J Herbert
>>>>> *  The King by C H Robertson Consultants
>>>>> *  The Lost Pharaoh by Stefan Kuhne
>>>>> 
>>>>> More details appear at:
>>>>> http://www.sellmyretro.com/offer/details/Sinclair_QL_Games_Collection_1-2152
>>>>>  
>>>> Hi Rich,
>>>> 
>>>> Wow! Well done to you, and the guys ... :-)
>>>> 
>>>> I am not a game player, myself, yet it all helps to promote the QL and 
>>>> re-new its life.
>>>> 
>>>> I guess that the Games will all run under QPC2, too?
>>>> 
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>>> 
>> On 09/03/2012 21:53, Lee Privett wrote:
>>> The games are accessed/linked to a menu that runs Q-emulator in a kind of 
>>> runtime version.
>>> 
>>> Editor
>>> QUANTA
>>> The QL Users And Tinkerers Association
>>> http://www.QUANTA.org.uk
>> 
>> The games are available individually (some run under QPC2, with it set at 
>> 512x256, 8 colour mode), or as this special package.
>> 
>> The special package includes a runtime version of q-emulator, which is then 
>> used to run the games - there is just one file containing the games and the 
>> runtime emulator, so that you cannot download the individual games onto a 
>> standard QL or another emulator.
>> 
>> 
> Does that mean that they are on a PC disk and can be run on any PC without a 
> separate emulator installed, please?
> 
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Re: [Ql-Users] Release of the Sinclair QL Games Collection 1

[Lee Privett]

The games are accessed/linked to a menu that runs Q-emulator in a kind of 
runtime version.

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On 9 Mar 2012, at 21:21, Malcolm Cadman wrote:

> In message <4f59d89c.9080...@rwapservices.co.uk>, Rich Mellor 
>  writes
> 
>> Thanks to work by Daniele Terdina and Jiri Dolezal, we have now released the 
>> Sinclair QL Games Collection 1.
>> 
>> This is a set of 10 commercial games for you to play on a Windows based PC, 
>> running under Q-emulator for £10
>> 
>> We hope this will help distil the comments that the QL was only ever a 
>> business machine and will hopefully help promote the QL itself.
>> 
>> The games included are:
>> 
>> *  Cuthbert in Space by Steve Bak and S J Proctor
>> *  Deathstrike by Damon Chaplin and T. Bovingdon
>> *  Hoverzone by R G Riley
>> *  Jungle Eddi by Stefan Kuhne
>> *  QL Hopper by Steve Bak and S J Proctor
>> *  QL Pengi by Jochen Merz and R. Bieniek
>> *  QL Vroom by Daniel Macré
>> *  Stone Raider II by Alex J Herbert
>> *  The King by C H Robertson Consultants
>> *  The Lost Pharaoh by Stefan Kuhne
>> 
>> More details appear at:
>> http://www.sellmyretro.com/offer/details/Sinclair_QL_Games_Collection_1-2152
> 
> Hi Rich,
> 
> Wow! Well done to you, and the guys ... :-)
> 
> I am not a game player, myself, yet it all helps to promote the QL and re-new 
> its life.
> 
> I guess that the Games will all run under QPC2, too?
> 
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Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi

[Lee Privett]

Hi Norman, did she actually say to pseudo customers f off?:)

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On 7 Mar 2012, at 10:38, Norman Dunbar wrote:

> Morning all,
> 
> eRant warning .
> 
> 
> On 06/03/12 22:15, Martin Wheatley wrote:
>> There is a very good article about Raspberry Pi in the new edition
>> of PC Pro Next time you are in W H Smith have a browse
> No, no, no, no and again, no!
> 
> Next time you are in WH Smiths, don't stand in front of the magazine rack 
> reading the damned things, either buy one and get out of the way or just get 
> out of the way. It's a shop - you buy stuff - not a library - you borrow 
> stuff.
> 
> eRant over! ;-)
> 
> I don't mind people having a quick look through - that's what I do to see if 
> an article justifies the cost - but I object to people getting a free read 
> and then leaving a "second hand" magazine for someone else to pay full price 
> for. It's bloody dishonest in my opinion. I'd go so far as to say that it's 
> almost like theft.
> 
> I hate going in to WH Smiths to get a comic (Linux, Electronics, Science etc) 
> because I can't get near the racks for a crowd of cheap skates reading the 
> magazines in the aisles. Bloody irritating.
> 
> My wife used to work in WH Smiths on a Saturday and her job was to wander 
> around the store telling people to stop reading the magazines and either buy 
> one or foff!
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Norm.
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Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 Keys

[Lee Privett]

I have this experience on a toshiba laptop making its use impossible, one of 
the keys to go somewhere else is the underscore _ and you know how often that 
gets used :(


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On 6 Mar 2012, at 12:10, Malcolm Lear wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Whenever I've been using QPC2 (latest version) and it gets left running 
> without use for a while, the keyboard seems to get remapped in some seemingly 
> random way. This happens on all my installs with XP or 7. Am I the only one 
> suffering this issue as I can't remember this being mentioned before.
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Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi

[Lee Privett]

Unfortunately any account with CPC-Farnell is not recognised with
'Farnell', they are treated as two separate companies which means
registering with Farnell separately if you wish to purchase.

they had sold out of Raspi when I managed to get through by phone :(

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 6:16 AM, Tony Firshman  wrote:

> Lee Privett wrote, on 28/Feb/12 10:28 | Feb28:
>
>
>  On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Bryan Horstmann
>>  wrote:
>>
>>  Just received this:-
>>>
>>> The Raspberry Pi Foundation will be making a big (and very positive)
>>> announcement that just might interest you at 0600h GMT on Wednesday 29
>>> February 2012. Come towww.raspberrypi.org  to find out what's going on.
>>>
>>>
> > Oh yes, set my alarm clock already
> >
> ... and the Farnell site, huge as it is, cannot cope.
> Trying in vain to get it do do *anything*!
>
> Many won't realise Farnell owns CPC, which was the main UK distributor of
> QL spares.
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Re: [Ql-Users] Nascent project: Cross-platform SuperBASIC derivative.

[Lee Privett]

SpecBAS does sound like something you cough up

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Marcos Cruz  wrote:

> En/Je/On 2012-02-28 09:10, Malcolm Lear escribió / skribis / wrote :
>
> > On 27/02/2012 12:38, Marcos Cruz wrote:
> > >I forgot to mention the SpecBAS project by Paul Dunn (
> http://specbas.co.uk).
>
> > Its interesting it support procedures and functions the same way as
> > SBasic. Clearly the author has used a QL.
>
> I'm not sure about that. I think the main influence comes from an old good
> alternative BASIC for ZX Spectrum: Beta BASIC by Andy Wright (and its
> descendants SAM BASIC and MasterBASIC for the SAM Coupé, by the same
> Author).
>
> The proc syntax is almost the same, though Beta BASIC do it better: it
> calls
> procs by name (like S*BASIC), while SpecBAS needs the word PROC. The DO
> LOOP
> structures are also the same; though Beta BASIC do it better too: it lets
> UNTIL and WHILE at both DO and LOOP in any possible combination, while
> SpecBAS
> so far only lets "DO WHILE - LOOP" or "DO -- LOOP UNTIL".
>
> Remember SpecBAS is still alpha and evolving. It seems it will become a
> useful
> and multiplatform language -- with a nice retro feeling.
>
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Re: [Ql-Users] Nascent project: Cross-platform SuperBASIC derivative.

[Lee Privett]

Please excuse my poor post, think twice-write once algorithm was switched
of in my brain along with trying to multitask, which we all know only
occurs in machine code programs on the QL and our female partners


It should have read as

Clearly tha author has! I have installed this programme on a USB stick to
carry around with and play with at opportune moments.
Th text is small on modern day hi-res displays, the editor could still be
improved but still looks fun
Have started thinking about a writing a 'port' program (taking the standard
QL range of commands) to convert SuperBASIC listings to this SpecBAS,
JFTHOI :)
However RasPi to QL BB is the priority





On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Lee Privett  wrote:

> Clearly, have installed this on a USB to carry around with and play with
> at opportune moments
>
> Text is small on modern day hi-res displays, editor could still be
> improved but looks fun
>
> Have started thinking about a possible writing a possible port program
> (taking standard QL range of commands) to convert SuperBASIC programs in to
> this SpecBAS, JFTHOI :)
>
> However RasPi to QL BB is the priority
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Malcolm Lear  wrote:
>
>> On 27/02/2012 12:38, Marcos Cruz wrote:
>>
>>> En/Je/On 2012-02-23 10:40, Stephen Usher escribió / skribis / wrote :
>>>
>>>> need for a modern equivalent to the old home computer systems and
>>>> the BASIC language which came on them.
>>>> On the home computer front,
>>>> On the scientific front,
>>>>
>>> I forgot to mention the SpecBAS project by Paul Dunn (
>>> http://specbas.co.uk).
>>> It's a BASIC interpreter based on the old ZX Spectrum's BASIC, but much
>>> improved, more powerful and multiplatform. It is still alpha but looks
>>> quite
>>> promising. I think it soon will suit the needs you mention.
>>>
>>> There are binary packages for Windows, Linux (Intel) and the Pandora's
>>> Ångström (http://openpandora.org). It's written in Free Pascal and it's
>>> open
>>> source, so it can be compiled for other platforms as well.
>>>
>>> In fact I'm considering SpecBAS as an alternative to SBASIC for a couple
>>> of
>>> game projects under development. The source code conversion would not be
>>> difficult, and the benefits would be remarkable: wider audience; easier
>>> programming of sounds and graphics; and the chance to be able to
>>> contribute to
>>> an open and evolving project.
>>>
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Re: [Ql-Users] Nascent project: Cross-platform SuperBASIC derivative.

[Lee Privett]

Clearly, have installed this on a USB to carry around with and play with at
opportune moments

Text is small on modern day hi-res displays, editor could still be improved
but looks fun

Have started thinking about a possible writing a possible port program
(taking standard QL range of commands) to convert SuperBASIC programs in to
this SpecBAS, JFTHOI :)

However RasPi to QL BB is the priority



On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Malcolm Lear  wrote:

> On 27/02/2012 12:38, Marcos Cruz wrote:
>
>> En/Je/On 2012-02-23 10:40, Stephen Usher escribió / skribis / wrote :
>>
>>> need for a modern equivalent to the old home computer systems and
>>> the BASIC language which came on them.
>>> On the home computer front,
>>> On the scientific front,
>>>
>> I forgot to mention the SpecBAS project by Paul Dunn (
>> http://specbas.co.uk).
>> It's a BASIC interpreter based on the old ZX Spectrum's BASIC, but much
>> improved, more powerful and multiplatform. It is still alpha but looks
>> quite
>> promising. I think it soon will suit the needs you mention.
>>
>> There are binary packages for Windows, Linux (Intel) and the Pandora's
>> Ångström (http://openpandora.org). It's written in Free Pascal and it's
>> open
>> source, so it can be compiled for other platforms as well.
>>
>> In fact I'm considering SpecBAS as an alternative to SBASIC for a couple
>> of
>> game projects under development. The source code conversion would not be
>> difficult, and the benefits would be remarkable: wider audience; easier
>> programming of sounds and graphics; and the chance to be able to
>> contribute to
>> an open and evolving project.
>>
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> Its interesting it support procedures and functions the same way as
> SBasic. Clearly the author has used a QL.
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Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi

[Lee Privett]

Oh yes, set my alarm clock already

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Bryan Horstmann  wrote:

> Just received this:-
>
> The Raspberry Pi Foundation will be making a big (and very positive)
> announcement that just might interest you at 0600h GMT on Wednesday 29
> February 2012. Come towww.raspberrypi.org  to find out what's going on.
>
> Bryan H
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum

[Lee Privett]

What will they think of next as the new hip thing - Progs?


On 23 Feb 2012, at 10:50, Dilwyn Jones wrote:

> I’m having problems getting on QL Forum this morning – anyone else tried?
> 
> Rob/Pete: if reading this can you check?
> 
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Re: [Ql-Users] Nascent project: Cross-platform SuperBASIC derivative.

[Lee Privett]

It is also relatively cheap software
http://www.thegamecreators.com/?m=view_product&id=2030&page=lite

with a bundle here http://www.thegamecreators.com/?m=view_bundle&id=17 those
who try this out will find some similarities with this and S*BASIC and Neil
is quite right it is geared towards games and 3D environments but there are
a hell of a load of commands and functions.

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Neil Riley wrote:

> I used to Dabble a little using Dark Basic Professional, a rather nice Gui
> front end Basic  mainly aimed at writing 'games'.
> A couple of my friends teenage boys enjoyed messing with it as it was very
> easy to code and results came quickly.
>
> This is worth a read for those interested.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DarkBASIC
>
> Neil
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com [mailto:
> ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Usher
> Sent: 23 February 2012 10:40
> To: ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com
> Subject: [Ql-Users] Nascent project: Cross-platform SuperBASIC derivative.
>
> The Raspberry Pi project and my work at Oxford University supporting a
> science department has had me thinking for some time about  the need for a
> modern equivalent to the old home computer systems and the BASIC language
> which came on them.
>
> On the home computer front, as shown in the second episode of the BBC's
> "Electric Dreams", teenage boys are still enthused by being able to
> program, as long as within 15 minutes they can start annoying their family
> with sounds and putting their name on the screen in gaudy colours. Plotting
> things on the screen simply is also important. The energy barrier must not
> be very high.
>
> On the scientific front, there are many people who need to do some
> programming but find the energy barrier for learning traditional
> programming languages (and even Matlab) too steep. They need a simple
> language with which to process data and plot their data in a publishable
> quality format.
>
> To this end, I see SuperBASIC as a very good starting point, which needs
> to be extended with modern data structures such as compound variables and
> proper variable scoping.
>
> I've been thinking about this quite hard in the last few days and have
> written up my initial thoughts on my blog:
>
>http://www.lingula.org.uk/wordpress/2012/02/23/notsobasic/
>
> Any comments and possible help appreciated. ;-)
>
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Re: [Ql-Users] 32 bit

[Lee Privett]

I asked a similar question on the QL Forum here 
http://www.qlforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=285 

Dilwyn responded first with 

"There was a Maths package by Helumt Aigner but not if it can do what you want 
- have a look at http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/tk/index.html.
Also, have a look in Quanta Library - disk MA01 - at CalQLator which claims to 
do up to 120 decimal places. Author was E G Whitbread in 1985. I think program 
is in SuperBASIC so you might be able to look at the code to see if it does 
what you want.
I seem to remember a QL program to calculate PI to some alarming number of 
decimal places such as 1900, but can't remember where I saw it - I just did a 
quick search on my website and Quanta library but can't seem to find it. 
Possibly, it might have been in Phil Jordan and Steve Johnson's PD libraries 
(disk 17 perhaps?)"


On 13 Feb 2012, at 10:44, Malcolm Lear wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Does anyone know if or how a 32 bit number can be printed without the 
> scientific exponent jumping in?
> 
> Cheers
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Re: [Ql-Users] Update on QL-SD

[Lee Privett]

You can see some of Peter's images here with his kind permission, of what he is 
currently achieving

https://sites.google.com/site/theqlimagerepository/products

Click on the link that says QL Modifications ( 6 lines down) and then you be 
taken to the actual album


Lee Privett




On 14 Dec 2011, at 15:20, Peter Graf wrote:

> I wrote:
> 
>> SDHC cards can be inserted just like microdrives
> 
> Microdrive _cartridges_ of course :-)
> 
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Re: [Ql-Users] Update on QL-SD

[Lee Privett]

Wow Peter this looks promising, I await with interest how this develops, any 
pics appreciated (links to of course)

Lee Privett





On 14 Dec 2011, at 15:20, Peter Graf wrote:

> I wrote:
> 
>> SDHC cards can be inserted just like microdrives
> 
> Microdrive _cartridges_ of course :-)
> 
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Re: [Ql-Users] n00b alert & an introduction of sorts

[Lee Privett]

Welcome Allie, you might want to catch up via a lot of reading by looking
here

from this site http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/index.html loads of stuff, software,
documents, and especially a few sections for those new or returning to the
QL community

another site regarding those new or returning to the QL
https://sites.google.com/site/iwant2learn2/ (mine)

QL Today - A4 publication - subscription 4 issues per year
http://qltoday.com/
QUANTA - still going,  A5 publication or e-mag - subscription 6 issues per
year http://www.quanta.org.uk/

You will also find by surfing the above and those recomended by RWAP
(Rich), the small number of traders who still operate within the Sinclair
QL and its derivatives.

Enjoy your experiences :)

Lee


On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Rich Mellor wrote:

>  On 13/12/2011 06:05, Alison Cassidy wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>I just joined your mailing list and have rejoined the QL community
>> after ... umm ... a break of some 25 years :) My name is Alison Cassidy,
>> I'm originally from Ireland tho' I'm now living in the US and have been for
>> some years. I'm a diagnostic developer at Apple Inc. and have been working
>> professionally with computer hardware and software for some 26 years now.
>> As a very young teen, I started on Commodore PETs - that would have been
>> 1979 or so. I 'progressed' to the ZX80, 81 Spectrum and ORIC-1. I remember
>> building RAM packs for the ZX series out of my bedroom and selling them on
>> to fellow-nerds at school :) One Summer, I saved up all my cash from my
>> Summer job and blew it all on a new QL. That was in 1984 or so, and my
>> parents were *not* impressed! For my birthday, I remember my aunt and uncle
>> buying me a blank Eurocard and a SP0256 speech chip, and I went on to
>> interface it to the QL, producing, I believe, the first speech synthesizer
>> for the QL.
>>
>>Anyways - I managed to pick up a second-hand one on eBay last
>> week. It showed up on my doorstep today and I'm now drowning in a wave of
>> nostalgia. *sigh* :) I've no idea if the thing works or not - it's supposed
>> to - but I'm going to try fire it up later this week. Can't wait to get
>> back into QL programming again!
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
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> to the QL).
>
> Alas some of us have been here from the very beginning - others are too
> enjoying the joys the QL for the first time, or after a break.
>
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>
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Re: [Ql-Users] Fw: A runtime version of QPC2?

[Lee Privett]

If the License is too restrictive and doesn't carry with today's fast paced
information age, then what is there stopping people to go back to the
current license holder and ask it it could be changed?

On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Marcos Cruz  wrote:

> En/Je/On 2011-12-07 10:48, Daniele Terdina escribió / skribis / wrote :
>
> > You can use SMSQ/E with Q-emuLator,
>
> I know, but you have to purchase it (the Gold Card version). Am I right?
> That's what I meant. Thanks to the QLPAK format, currently Q-emuLator is
> more
> suitable than QPC2 for distributing QL software for non-QLers, but with
> almost
> all limitations of the original machine (speed, screen, QDOS...); well, you
> can use a Minerva ROM, what is an improvement.
>
> > there would be at least three clauses in the current SMSQ/E license
> > preventing users from redistributing SMSQ/E for free with their SBASIC
> > code:The SMSQ/E binary can only be distributed by resellersResellers
> need to
> > provide support for SMSQ/EResellers need to pay 10 euros for each copy to
> > Tony Tebby In other words, to distribute a free SMSQ/E runtime with your
> > program, you would need to first register as a reseller (the easy part),
> > cover for the 10 euros for each copy out of your pocket, and be on the
> hook
> > to provide SMSQ/E support even though you are giving it away for free.
>
> Thank you. I didn't rememeber the precise details, but I read about all
> this
> some time ago...
>
> ...and it still sounds plain Midle-Age to me :)
>
> In my opinion, such arrangement could work in the early 1980s (before the
> Internet and before the free documentation and software licenses) but today
> it's impossible to promote a software platform that way -- on even keep it
> alive!  No new users will ever come, no matter how potentially useful for
> certain tasks (or for developing certain software projects) a modern QL can
> be.
>
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Re: [Ql-Users] PD Software

[Lee Privett]

Hi Roy I will take it off your hands

Editor
QUANTA
The QL Users And Tinkerers Association
http://www.QUANTA.org.uk






On 28 Nov 2011, at 13:35, Roy Wood wrote:

> I was clearing out a load of stuff here and I discovered a large floppy disk 
> box containing PD software I bought from SJPD and Qubbesoft a long while ago. 
> Does anyone want any of this or chall I chuck it out? I also have a box which 
> I used to lug to an from QL shows when I was selling. Most of my remaining 
> QBranch stock went off to Bruce but there are some bits in there along with a 
> load of floppies. Too heavy to post so you will have to come and get it. 
> Boxes may be useful as would the gloppies I suppose.
> Roy
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[Ql-Users] S*BASIC

[Lee Privett]

I seem to remember awhile ago Dilwyn asking about the first use of term S*BASIC 
was used. 

If it is any help, reading Vol 5 Issue 4 Nov/Dec 2000 there is an article 
written by DJ and GG re:Turbo Compiler

I quote in the first paragraph "Note: ln this article I will use the expression 
S*Basic to refer to
both SuperBASlC (QDOS) SBASIC (SMSQ/E)" 


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Re: [Ql-Users] Aurora discussion

[Lee Privett]

Hi Dave, MAC owner reporting, however not knowing the elegant solution I am
unsure what you need the cables etc. for, I thought this was a software
manual conversion issue

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Dave Park  wrote:

> Thank you Dilwyn!
>
> For those who suggest elegant Windows solutions, I foil thee with my Mac!
>
> It seems I need a few custom cables, and to reset some jumpers, and a
> keyboard interface.
>
> As I need to make cables for me, maybe others need cables too. If so,
> it would be a lot cheaper for me to make a batch of ten of each, for
> example...
>
> Who needs what, and are they available anywhere else?
>
> Dave
>
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Dilwyn Jones
>  wrote:
> > Dave Park wrote:
> >>
> >> To kick things off for this... Could someone kindly convert the Quill
> >> format manual to a format I can access, as I don't have a working
> >> Quill (or any of the Psion apps) for my QL...
> >>
> >> Then I'll be able to participate in my own discussion ;)
> >>
> >> Dave
> >
> > Hi Dave,
> >
> > I've sent Word DOC and PDF versions of both the Aurora Manual and
> Technical
> > Guide to you privately.
> >
> > As I'm in the process of moving to my new PC and just found that the old
> > HotMetalPro4 web page editor won't work on Win7-64bit (the installation
> > program is rejected) I need to find another web page editor I'm
> comfortable
> > with, ideally an HTML editor with a Tags view to flick between html
> source,
> > tags view and WYSIWYG before I can resume updating my website to add
> these
> > files there. Any suggestions for a reasonable free or cheap little
> editor?
> > Until such time, I'll keep the old PC to hand just to update my website!
> >
> > Dilwyn Jones
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Re: [Ql-Users] Repository DVD on OS X ?

[Lee Privett]

It won't auto run but the web pages display Ok

most navigation you will have to do manually

On 18 Sep 2011, at 16:14, thorsten herbert wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Just a fast question upfront subscribing to QL Today. Does the DVD work well 
> On OS X?
> 
> Thanks for Info. 
> 
> Cheers,
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Re: [Ql-Users] Huge Sinclair repository on DVD out now!

[Lee Privett]

Ditto, mine arrived today in the UK/south, a worthy DVD
On 17 Sep 2011, at 14:16, Bob Spelten wrote:

> Op Fri, 16 Sep 2011 14:26:42 +0200 schreef Urs Koenig (QL) :
> 
>> This summer I volunteered to work on a Sinclair related retro computing DVD 
>> which is out now.
> 
> And QLToday plus The DVD arrived in Amsterdam this morning in good health.
> Compliments to all who contributed to this project.
> 
> Bob
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Re: [Ql-Users] QPCII discussion...

[Lee Privett]

A fading transparency is what I was originally referring to

On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 4:54 PM, Bob Spelten  wrote:

> Op Thu, 15 Sep 2011 11:10:21 +0200 schreef gdgqler :
>
>
>  On 14 Sep 2011, at 15:48, Lee Privett wrote:
>>
>>  A transparency option on the use of colour so that perfect antialiasing
>>> can be achieved
>>>
>>
>> I thought that was already available. I have certainly been able to
>> superimpose two pictures so that you could see both through each other, if
>> you see what I mean.
>>
>> George
>>
>
> It depends on what you mean by available.
> George has written about merging colours on screen to give a transparent
> effect (Quanta v27i4).
> But the pic/psa standard does not support alpha values.
> Modern PE sprites do support them and they can be used instead as a picture
> format.
>
> PNGCONV (a w$ program) can convert png files to sprites and keep any
> transparency that is set.
> http://www.kilgus.net/smsqe/sprtconv.html>
> >
>
> EDDICON (a QL sprite program) can read bmp or pic files and set an alpha
> value for each pixel up tp 128x128.
> Or you can create sprites from scratch.
> 
>
> Also BMP2SPRT can convert bmp to sprites and change a given colour to an
> alpha value.
> 
>
> The sprite definition provides room for new options but are not implemented
> so far.
> How about fading transparency?
>
>
> Bob
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