Re: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball

[François Van Emelen via Ql-Users]

Op 19/03/2022 om 18:14 schreef Norman Dunbar via Ql-Users:

One
night in the local pub he redrew the
entire Spectrum Issue 1 PCB from
memory on a napkin, while quite drunk.
I was stupidly impressed by that.

I'd have been seriously impressed by that!

Cheers,
Norm.


Sorry

François Van Emelen


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Re: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball

[Norman Dunbar via Ql-Users]

> One
> night in the local pub he redrew the
> entire Spectrum Issue 1 PCB from
> memory on a napkin, while quite drunk.

> I was stupidly impressed by that.

I'd have been seriously impressed by that!

Cheers,
Norm.
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Re: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball

[Darren Branagh via Ql-Users]

I remember him coming to the Irish QL shows I ran in the late 90s.. One
night in the local pub he redrew the entire Spectrum Issue 1 PCB from
memory on a napkin, while quite drunk.

I was stupidly impressed by that.

Miss him dearly.

Darren Branagh

Sent from My iPhone 13 Pro.

On Thu, 17 Mar 2022, 12:44 Marcel Kilgus via Ql-Users, <
ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:

> Darren Branagh via Ql-Users wrote:
> > Yes, Stuart passed away several years ago... I posted here the day it
> > happened.
>
> Yes, Ben has resurrected an old thread on QL forum yesterday and added
> his anecdote of getting taught electronics by Stuart, but it's been
> almost 4 years to the day since it happened.
>
> Marcel
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Re: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball

[Marcel Kilgus via Ql-Users]

Darren Branagh via Ql-Users wrote:
> Yes, Stuart passed away several years ago... I posted here the day it
> happened.

Yes, Ben has resurrected an old thread on QL forum yesterday and added
his anecdote of getting taught electronics by Stuart, but it's been 
almost 4 years to the day since it happened.

Marcel

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Re: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball

[Darren Branagh via Ql-Users]

Yes, Stuart passed away several years ago... I posted here the day it
happened.



Darren Branagh

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On Thu, 17 Mar 2022, 10:19 RWAP Software via Ql-Users, <
ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:

> François,
>
> Correction - I thought he passed away in March 2018 ?
>
> In any case, he is still sorely missed.
>
> Rich Mellor
> RWAP Software
> www.rwapsoftware.co.uk
> www.sellmyretro.com
>
> On 2022-03-17 10:00, François Van Emelen via Ql-Users wrote:
> >  Stuart Honeyball passed away.
> >
> > Sad news
> >
> >  Thoughts are with his family and friends.
> >
> > François Van Emelen
> >
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Re: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball

[RWAP Software via Ql-Users]

François,

Correction - I thought he passed away in March 2018 ?

In any case, he is still sorely missed.

Rich Mellor
RWAP Software
www.rwapsoftware.co.uk
www.sellmyretro.com

On 2022-03-17 10:00, François Van Emelen via Ql-Users wrote:

 Stuart Honeyball passed away.

Sad news

 Thoughts are with his family and friends.

François Van Emelen


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Re: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball

[RWAP Software via Ql-Users]

That is indeed sad news - he was one of the great innovators for the QL.

Rich Mellor RWAP Software www.rwapsoftware.co.uk www.sellmyretro.com

On 2022-03-17 10:00, François Van Emelen via Ql-Users wrote:

 Stuart Honeyball passed away.

Sad news

 Thoughts are with his family and friends.

François Van Emelen


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Re: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball

[Bob Spelten via Ql-Users]

Op Sun, 17 Jun 2018 14:32:21 +0200 schreef Urs Koenig (QL) via Ql-Users  
:



Derek wrote:

I totally agree with Tony, Stuart was a very nice person to know.
I talked with him alot when I organised 2 QL workshops in the North  
East.

His product line was excellent quality and I must of bought everything
Miracle Systems produced It does seem a loss to the QL community.


The last couple of weeks I re-viewed all the DVDs from the Italian QL  
community and compiled this playlist for the QL community:


Stuart Honeyball / Miracle Systems
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQHAWWG2O0e1rLysASEw-8zRe0rojueA_
In memoriam of the miraculous Stuart Honeyball. R.I.P. my friend.

Thanks to Antonio Gareffa (ANT Videoproductions) and other Italian QL  
friends there’s video footage of many 1990s QL shows. Published with  
their permission. Thank you very much for this great work. Grazie mille!


QL forever!


Thanks Urs,

I especially like the one that was made in Eindhoven.
I remember the Italians filming there and always wondered what they made  
of it. It was a well visited meeting with many famous faces which shall  
not be named in view of the GDPR, so check it out yourself.


Bob

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Re: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball

[Urs Koenig (QL) via Ql-Users]

Derek wrote:
> I totally agree with Tony, Stuart was a very nice person to know.
> I talked with him alot when I organised 2 QL workshops in the North East.
> His product line was excellent quality and I must of bought everything
> Miracle Systems produced It does seem a loss to the QL community.

The last couple of weeks I re-viewed all the DVDs from the Italian QL community 
and compiled this playlist for the QL community:

Stuart Honeyball / Miracle Systems
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQHAWWG2O0e1rLysASEw-8zRe0rojueA_
In memoriam of the miraculous Stuart Honeyball. R.I.P. my friend.

Thanks to Antonio Gareffa (ANT Videoproductions) and other Italian QL friends 
there’s video footage of many 1990s QL shows. Published with their permission. 
Thank you very much for this great work. Grazie mille!

QL forever!

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Re: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball

[Derek via Ql-Users]

Hi,
I totally agree with Tony, Stuart was a very nice person to know.
I talked with him alot when I organised 2 QL workshops in the North East.
His product line was excellent quality and I must of bought everything Miracle 
Systems produced
It does seem a loss to the QL community.
RegardsDerek
 Original message From: Tony Tebby via Ql-Users 
<ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> Date: 30/03/2018  13:25  (GMT+00:00) To: 
ql-us...@q-v-d.com Cc: Tony Tebby <tonyte...@t-t-web.com> Subject: Re: 
[Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball 
He really was one of the good guys.

Honest

Who cares about contracts - Stuart's word was his bond.

Intellectually adventurous

He dreamt up things that seemed to be beyond the limits of the state of 
the art of fabrication technology - but they worked.

Meticulous

Behind his appearance and demeanour hid a thorough grasp of engineering 
detail. What would the QL have been like if he had been in charge of the 
design?

Carefree

The USA on a folding bike? My last memory of him (too long ago) was him 
climbing up a rickety ancient cherry tree to get the cherries I could 
not reach.

Generous

He shared the cherries!





On 29/03/2018 11:40, Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users wrote:
> I regret to have to report that I heard this morning of the death of Stuart 
> Honeyball of Miracle Systems.
>
> He passed away peacefully last night (28th March) at 23:45 of cancer, 
> according to his wife, Karin.
>
> I’m sure you’ll all want to join me in extending our condolence to his wife 
> and family and express our great admiration and gratitude for all the work he 
> did for the QL over the years.
>
> Dilwyn Jones
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Re: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball

[Tony Tebby via Ql-Users]

He really was one of the good guys.

Honest

Who cares about contracts - Stuart's word was his bond.

Intellectually adventurous

He dreamt up things that seemed to be beyond the limits of the state of 
the art of fabrication technology - but they worked.


Meticulous

Behind his appearance and demeanour hid a thorough grasp of engineering 
detail. What would the QL have been like if he had been in charge of the 
design?


Carefree

The USA on a folding bike? My last memory of him (too long ago) was him 
climbing up a rickety ancient cherry tree to get the cherries I could 
not reach.


Generous

He shared the cherries!





On 29/03/2018 11:40, Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users wrote:

I regret to have to report that I heard this morning of the death of Stuart 
Honeyball of Miracle Systems.

He passed away peacefully last night (28th March) at 23:45 of cancer, according 
to his wife, Karin.

I’m sure you’ll all want to join me in extending our condolence to his wife and 
family and express our great admiration and gratitude for all the work he did 
for the QL over the years.

Dilwyn Jones
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Re: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball

[Peter Graf via Ql-Users]

Am 29.03.2018 um 20:13 schrieb Darren Branagh via Ql-Users:
> Dont forget he also designed the ZX Spectrum issue 1 PCB by hand.

And approximately 16000 of these machines were produced!

Does anyone know how many GoldCards were sold?

Peter
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Re: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball

[Darren Branagh via Ql-Users]

Dont forget he also designed the ZX Spectrum issue 1 PCB by hand.

Darren Branagh

Sent from My iPhone X.

On Thu 29 Mar 2018 19:10 Urs Koenig (QL) via Ql-Users, <
ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:

> Dilwyn wrote:
> > I regret to have to report that I heard this morning of the death of
> Stuart
> > Honeyball of Miracle Systems.
> >
> > He passed away peacefully last night (28th March) at 23:45 of cancer,
> > according to his wife, Karin.
> >
> > I’m sure you’ll all want to join me in extending our condolence to his
> wife and
> > family and express our great admiration and gratitude for all the work
> he did
> > for the QL over the years.
>
> Very sad news! He did so many great things for the QL. He was such a smart
> guy, fun to talk to. I remember well the QL shows where we've met. He and
> the miracle boys were an enrichment for the QL scene. Some pictures with
> Stuart are in this gallery_
>
> http://www.sinclairql.net/pic/Index.php?sfpg=UGVvcGxlLyoqN2Q0ZmU3M2EyYzMzOGFlYWM3MGZlODgxOGIzYmJjODE5MDBjYzdkYTg1MmI5YzYyZjJhNjZiMTg2YjQ4MzBmOA
>
> May he rest in peace. Thanks Dilwyn for letting us know.
>
> Urs
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Re: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball

[Urs Koenig (QL) via Ql-Users]

Dilwyn wrote:
> I regret to have to report that I heard this morning of the death of Stuart
> Honeyball of Miracle Systems.
> 
> He passed away peacefully last night (28th March) at 23:45 of cancer,
> according to his wife, Karin.
> 
> I’m sure you’ll all want to join me in extending our condolence to his wife 
> and
> family and express our great admiration and gratitude for all the work he did
> for the QL over the years.

Very sad news! He did so many great things for the QL. He was such a smart guy, 
fun to talk to. I remember well the QL shows where we've met. He and the 
miracle boys were an enrichment for the QL scene. Some pictures with Stuart are 
in this gallery_
http://www.sinclairql.net/pic/Index.php?sfpg=UGVvcGxlLyoqN2Q0ZmU3M2EyYzMzOGFlYWM3MGZlODgxOGIzYmJjODE5MDBjYzdkYTg1MmI5YzYyZjJhNjZiMTg2YjQ4MzBmOA

May he rest in peace. Thanks Dilwyn for letting us know.

Urs


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Re: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball

[François Van Emelen via Ql-Users]

Op 29/03/2018 om 11:40 schreef Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users:

I regret to have to report that I heard this morning of the death of Stuart 
Honeyball of Miracle Systems.

He passed away peacefully last night (28th March) at 23:45 of cancer, according 
to his wife, Karin.

I’m sure you’ll all want to join me in extending our condolence to his wife and 
family and express our great admiration and gratitude for all the work he did 
for the QL over the years.

Dilwyn Jones
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Very sad news.

Blessings.
François Van Emelen


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Re: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball

[Darren Branagh via Ql-Users]

And "piece"was deliberate, an old in joke.

Darren.


On Thu 29 Mar 2018 15:45 Darren Branagh,  wrote:

> Very sad. Although we'd lost touch, he was a great mate back in the day.
> Stayed in my house for the QL shows here.
>
> His devices made the QL useablecan you really imagine life without a
> trump, gold, or super gold card?
>
> Rest in piece old friend.
>
> Darren Branagh
>
> Sent from My iPhone X.
>
> On Thu 29 Mar 2018 10:42 Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users, <
> ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:
>
>> I regret to have to report that I heard this morning of the death of
>> Stuart Honeyball of Miracle Systems.
>>
>> He passed away peacefully last night (28th March) at 23:45 of cancer,
>> according to his wife, Karin.
>>
>> I’m sure you’ll all want to join me in extending our condolence to his
>> wife and family and express our great admiration and gratitude for all the
>> work he did for the QL over the years.
>>
>> Dilwyn Jones
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Re: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball

[Darren Branagh via Ql-Users]

Very sad. Although we'd lost touch, he was a great mate back in the day.
Stayed in my house for the QL shows here.

His devices made the QL useablecan you really imagine life without a
trump, gold, or super gold card?

Rest in piece old friend.

Darren Branagh

Sent from My iPhone X.

On Thu 29 Mar 2018 10:42 Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users, <
ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:

> I regret to have to report that I heard this morning of the death of
> Stuart Honeyball of Miracle Systems.
>
> He passed away peacefully last night (28th March) at 23:45 of cancer,
> according to his wife, Karin.
>
> I’m sure you’ll all want to join me in extending our condolence to his
> wife and family and express our great admiration and gratitude for all the
> work he did for the QL over the years.
>
> Dilwyn Jones
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Re: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball

[pgraf--- via Ql-Users]

On 29 Mar 2018 at 14:19, Marcel Kilgus via Ql-Users wrote:

> > I remember how proud I felt when Stuart Honeyball lent me an ear
> > about the 68020 processor, while I was still a QL nodbody. At that 
> > time, he was reluctant about an upgrade to the GoldCard, because 
> > (coming from the 68000 and the QXL's 68040) Stuart was not aware the 
> > 68020 had dynamic databus sizing. I talked with him about my working 
> > '020 wirewrap board, and how I patched QDOS so most of it worked 
> > with the '020. In the end, I could convince him, and it felt like I 
> > had given the SuperGoldCard a kick-off :)
> 
> Interesting story. I'm still a huge fan of the SGC, but could never
> afford it at the time.

I had the luck to buy my SGC after the price fell, but before it 
became interesting for collectors. I find the SGC a masterpiece, the 
best thing that ever plugged into an original QL mainboard!

I still have the mentioned wirewrap 68020 board. In it's first 
revision, it worked even before I got hands on the GoldCard. It was 
plugged into the QL's 68008 socket via IDC cable. Lacking own RAM, 
speed came only from cache, higher clock and faster CPU. Of course, 
GoldCard was faster, which made me start to to add RAM. That 
revision was never finished, because the SGC came, and later on 
rumors of Goldfire made me think of 68040 upward ;-)

> > That's what inspired me, and what I later did my own way, with the
> > Q40, Q60 and Q68. Now I somehow feel like "the only one left". 
> > Stuart was no longer active... but still...
> 
> Well, there's Nasta, I've got the impression he knows the QL better
> than its original designers, though he seems to be impaired by his own
> perfectionism.

Also let's not forget that living in Eastern or Western Europe made 
a big difference at the time Nasta announced his GoldFire. 

But mentioning "announced designs" versus "materialized designs" 
takes my thoughts right back to Stuart Honeyball. 

I remember a funny moment, when there was chat about the QL Graphics 
Card that Stuart had announced, but kept delaying. Someone said, 
right in his presence: "Was there ever an *announced* design of 
Stuart which *materialized*?" Stuart grew very silent...

I don't know about Stuart Honeyball's early hardware, but indeed it 
seems that he hardly talked about his large projects until they were 
practically finished.

(By the way, I wish Stuart had finished his QL Graphics Card, 
because all the video converters I tried with my QLs suck.)

Peter

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Re: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball

[Wolfgang Lenerz via Ql-Users]

Oh my.

What a sad day.

Stuart will be missed and remembered.

My deepest sympathy to his family.

Wolfgang

On 29/03/2018 11:40, Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users wrote:

I regret to have to report that I heard this morning of the death of Stuart 
Honeyball of Miracle Systems.

He passed away peacefully last night (28th March) at 23:45 of cancer, according 
to his wife, Karin.

I’m sure you’ll all want to join me in extending our condolence to his wife and 
family and express our great admiration and gratitude for all the work he did 
for the QL over the years.

Dilwyn Jones
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Re: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball

[Marcel Kilgus via Ql-Users]

pgraf--- via Ql-Users wrote:
> When I read the subject "Stuart Honeyball" I somehow expected he'd
> attend a QL meeting, publish his memoirs, or anything, but not that.

Yes, that would have been preferable.

> I remember how proud I felt when Stuart Honeyball lent me an ear
> about the 68020 processor, while I was still a QL nodbody. At that 
> time, he was reluctant about an upgrade to the GoldCard, because 
> (coming from the 68000 and the QXL's 68040) Stuart was not aware the 
> 68020 had dynamic databus sizing. I talked with him about my working 
> '020 wirewrap board, and how I patched QDOS so most of it worked 
> with the '020. In the end, I could convince him, and it felt like I 
> had given the SuperGoldCard a kick-off :)

Interesting story. I'm still a huge fan of the SGC, but could never
afford it at the time.

> That's what inspired me, and what I later did my own way, with the
> Q40, Q60 and Q68. Now I somehow feel like "the only one left". 
> Stuart was no longer active... but still...

Well, there's Nasta, I've got the impression he knows the QL better
than its original designers, though he seems to be impaired by his own
perfectionism.

> Having good hardware ideas is one thing. Actually finishing a 
> computer, so people can buy it, is a different thing.

True dat.

Marcel


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Re: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball

[pgraf--- via Ql-Users]

On 29 Mar 2018 at 10:40, Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users wrote:

> I regret to have to report that I heard this morning of the
> death of Stuart Honeyball of Miracle Systems.

When I read the subject "Stuart Honeyball" I somehow expected he'd 
attend a QL meeting, publish his memoirs, or anything, but not that.

Every loss of a QL legend is tragic, but this one hurts me deeply. 
It was always the hardware that attracted me to the QL, and before I 
could afford my own printed circuit boards, Stuart Honeyball was 
like a hero for me. To own a legendary GoldCard was almost more 
desirable than the QL itself.

I remember how proud I felt when Stuart Honeyball lent me an ear 
about the 68020 processor, while I was still a QL nodbody. At that 
time, he was reluctant about an upgrade to the GoldCard, because 
(coming from the 68000 and the QXL's 68040) Stuart was not aware the 
68020 had dynamic databus sizing. I talked with him about my working 
'020 wirewrap board, and how I patched QDOS so most of it worked 
with the '020. In the end, I could convince him, and it felt like I 
had given the SuperGoldCard a kick-off :)

In my QL times, Stuart Honeyball was the only person who brought QL 
systems which contained the "heart" of a computer, the 
microprocessor and its surroundings. The GC, SGC and QXL were not 
just peripherals. They were computers, except graphics.

That's what inspired me, and what I later did my own way, with the 
Q40, Q60 and Q68. Now I somehow feel like "the only one left". 
Stuart was no longer active... but still...

Having good hardware ideas is one thing. Actually finishing a 
computer, so people can buy it, is a different thing. Especially as 
a single person in the small QL scene. Stuart Honeyball did both. He 
did it great. We will always remember him!

Peter

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Re: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball

[Rich Mellor via Ql-Users]

-Original Message-
From: Ql-Users [mailto:ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of Dilwyn 
Jones via Ql-Users
Sent: 29 March 2018 10:40
To: QL Users List
Cc: Dilwyn Jones
Subject: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball

I regret to have to report that I heard this morning of the death of Stuart 
Honeyball of Miracle Systems.

He passed away peacefully last night (28th March) at 23:45 of cancer, according 
to his wife, Karin.

I’m sure you’ll all want to join me in extending our condolence to his wife and 
family and express our great admiration and gratitude for all the work he did 
for the QL over the years.

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A really sad bit of news.

In recognition of Stuart's contribution to the community, I have been 
using a Trump Card and Miracle Centronics adaptor today to do some more 
testing of my Retro-Printer


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Re: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball

[Giorgio Garabello via Ql-Users]

a very sad news :-°°°(

2018-03-29 13:33 GMT+02:00 Richard Howe via Ql-Users <
ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com>:

> I am sorry to hear of this.
>
> A lifetime of real achievements for the QL world.
>
> Blessings.
>
> Kind regards
> Richard Howe
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ql-Users [mailto:ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of
> Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users
> Sent: 29 March 2018 10:40
> To: QL Users List
> Cc: Dilwyn Jones
> Subject: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball
>
> I regret to have to report that I heard this morning of the death of
> Stuart Honeyball of Miracle Systems.
>
> He passed away peacefully last night (28th March) at 23:45 of cancer,
> according to his wife, Karin.
>
> I’m sure you’ll all want to join me in extending our condolence to his
> wife and family and express our great admiration and gratitude for all the
> work he did for the QL over the years.
>
> Dilwyn Jones
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[Richard Howe via Ql-Users]

I am sorry to hear of this.

A lifetime of real achievements for the QL world.

Blessings.

Kind regards
Richard Howe

-Original Message-
From: Ql-Users [mailto:ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of Dilwyn 
Jones via Ql-Users
Sent: 29 March 2018 10:40
To: QL Users List
Cc: Dilwyn Jones
Subject: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball

I regret to have to report that I heard this morning of the death of Stuart 
Honeyball of Miracle Systems.

He passed away peacefully last night (28th March) at 23:45 of cancer, according 
to his wife, Karin.

I’m sure you’ll all want to join me in extending our condolence to his wife and 
family and express our great admiration and gratitude for all the work he did 
for the QL over the years.

Dilwyn Jones
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Re: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball

[Jan Bredenbeek via Ql-Users]

On 29 March 2018 at 11:40, Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users <
ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:

> I regret to have to report that I heard this morning of the death of
> Stuart Honeyball of Miracle Systems.
>
> He passed away peacefully last night (28th March) at 23:45 of cancer,
> according to his wife, Karin.
>
> I’m sure you’ll all want to join me in extending our condolence to his
> wife and family and express our great admiration and gratitude for all the
> work he did for the QL over the years.
>

Very sad news :(

He and his colleagues came to Eindhoven many times, sometimes even on
folding bikes backpacked full of Gold Cards.

My condolences to his family, the QL community will remember him as the
Miracle guy who gave the QL a second life...

Jan.

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Re: [Ql-Users] Stuart Honeyball

[Marcel Kilgus via Ql-Users]

Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users wrote:
> I regret to have to report that I heard this morning of the death
> of Stuart Honeyball of Miracle Systems.
>
> He passed away peacefully last night (28th March) at 23:45 of
> cancer, according to his wife, Karin.

Oh my! He wasn't that old, was he?

One more true hero of the QL world gone, my condolences :-(

Marcel

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