[ql-users] Re: [ql-users] £ 1000 to spend! (2nd attempt!)

2004-03-20 Thread gwicks
- Original Message - From: Roy wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] £ 1000 to spend! (2nd attempt!) I approached Fred Toussi a while ago about doing an upgrade to Text 87 and suggested that he could produce

Re: [ql-users] problem with the new C68 pieces for WMAN

2004-03-20 Thread Dave Walker
, March 18, 2004 2:06 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] problem with the new C68 pieces for WMAN In a message dated 14/03/04 11:39:37 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: After compiling, I am getting an undefined symbol 'RELOC_START'. Looking at my original LIBC_A file, I

Re: [ql-users] Re: Changing the subject

2004-03-20 Thread Dilwyn Jones
On 19 Mar 2004 at 21:41, Tony Firshman wrote: No thanks, I already look sheepish enough most of the time. I thought you were more wolf like (8-)# but in sheeps' clothes, of course... Wolfgang Hmmm, this subject is getting a bit 'woolly'. But I mutton't make bad jokes about it. I expect

Re: [ql-users] Re: Changing the subject

2004-03-20 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Hey - I'm willing to accept anything as payment - though preferably only sheep that have been slaughtered and carved up so I do not need a new freezer... -- Rich Mellor OK, I'll test this by ordering a program from you. 20 best Welsh sheep in the post to you tonight ;-) -- Dilwyn Jones

Re: [ql-users] Re: Changing the subject

2004-03-20 Thread RWAPSoftware
In a message dated 20/03/2004 13:17:04 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey - I'm willing to accept anything as payment - though preferablyonly sheep that have been slaughtered and carved up so I do not need anew freezer... -- Rich MellorOK, I'll test this by

[ql-users] Sprite Program

2004-03-20 Thread RWAPSoftware
Can someone please remind me - where can I get the new sprite designer program for Pointer Environment. See, this is the problem with public domain software - it is not advertised anywhere! --Rich Mellor RWAP Services35 Chantry Croft, Kinsley, Pontefract, West Yorkshire, WF9 5JHTEL: 01977

Re: [ql-users] Re: Changing the subject

2004-03-20 Thread Bill Waugh
- Original Message - From: Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re: Changing the subject Hey - I'm willing to accept anything as payment - though preferably only sheep that have been slaughtered

Re: [ql-users] Sprite Program

2004-03-20 Thread RWAPSoftware
In a message dated 20/03/2004 13:49:01 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can someone please remind me - where can I get the new sprite designer program for Pointer Environment. See, this is the problem with public domain software - it is not advertised anywhere! OK -

[ql-users] Important Changes

2004-03-20 Thread Bruce N
Hello ql-users, I will be swapping over the list now. You will automatically be subscribed to the new list and be receiving instructions on how to post immediately. If you have any problems please contact me on the email below. -- Best regards, Bruce mailto

[ql-users] Re: [ql-users] Re: [ql-users] Re: [ql-users] Re: [ql-users] Re: [ql-users] £ 1000 to spend! (2nd attempt!)

2004-03-19 Thread Tony Firshman
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 at 22:45:55, Roy wood wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Qliberator was another story but Ian Stewart, who was my only contact, had only a small part in writing it. The other author, whose name escapes me, Adrian Soundy had long since disappeared and the sources were not

Re: [ql-users] Beginning a succesful QL journey

2004-03-19 Thread RWAPSoftware
isk?? However, just what proportion of the QL users still use this type of system is unknown. --Rich Mellor RWAP Services35 Chantry Croft, Kinsley, Pontefract, West Yorkshire, WF9 5JHTEL: 01977 610509Visit our website at URL:http://www.rwapsoftware.co.ukStuck with ordinary dial up internet co

Re: [ql-users] Re: Re: [ql-users] Re: [ql-users] Re: £ 0.00 to spend! (1st a...

2004-03-19 Thread RWAPSoftware
osing out. If Peter is unwilling to allow the majority of QL users have access to his code, then so be it - we will just have to accept that situation and move on. Most people seem perfectly happy with SMSQ/e and how it is now and the way in which changes are managed and released. Most people ar

Re: [ql-users] Beginning a succesful QL journey

2004-03-19 Thread Tony Firshman
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 at 06:16:31, wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) In a message dated 19/03/2004 02:00:06 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: snip   I have also been promised a couple of Miracle Systems hard disk drives which plug into the QLs ROM port.  Unfotrunately, this does not

Re: [ql-users] £ 0.00 to spend! (1s t attempt)

2004-03-19 Thread Geogwilt
In a message dated 18/03/04 16:57:35 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 18 Mar 2004 at 9:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You might try driving without tyres. But would that be driving? Wolfgang Bumpily - as without SMSQ/E. George

Re: [ql-users] Re: Re: [ql-users] Re: [ql-users] Re: £ 0.00 to spend! (1st ...

2004-03-19 Thread Geogwilt
In a message dated 19/03/04 11:35:27 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I stand to be corrected on these comments on QDOS Classic and I am sure that George Gwilt would love a simple step by step guide as to how to set it up, so that we can find out why QWord cannot open its TurboPTR

Re: [ql-users] £ 0.00 to spend! (1s t attempt)

2004-03-19 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 19 Mar 2004 at 9:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bumpily - as without SMSQ/E. On the other hand SMSQ/E does seem to give the, er, bumps to some... Wolfgang

Re: [ql-users] Re: Changing the subject

2004-03-19 Thread RWAPSoftware
In a message dated 19/03/2004 15:48:38 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It ties in a bit with Geoff's comment about a 1000 pounds work contract.Contray to Peter, I will always consider trying to sell my programs, or at least some of them (I hasten to add that this has

Re: [ql-users] Re: Changing the subject

2004-03-19 Thread Tony Firshman
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 at 11:13:18, wrote: This was Rich with bad attribute--^ (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Agreed - the QL traders continue to support the QL mainly from a love for the system and the people involved.  The more disputes that arise and the less people that buy any software, the

Re: [ql-users] Re: Changing the subject

2004-03-19 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 19 Mar 2004 at 16:54, Tony Firshman wrote: Maybe we ought to resort to old fashioned sheep. No thanks, I already look sheepish enough most of the time. Wolfgang

[ql-users] Re: Re: [ql-users] Re: Re: [ql-users] Re: [ql-users] Re: £ 0.00 to spend! (1st a...

2004-03-19 Thread Roy wood
chooses and he could become a reseller - he had the offer - and then sell it at cost so making it, if effect, free. If Peter is unwilling to allow the majority of QL users have access to his code, then so be it - we will just have to accept that situation and move on.  Most people seem perfectly happy

Re: [ql-users] Re: Changing the subject

2004-03-19 Thread Roy wood
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Wolfgang Lenerz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes SNIP (Although, I don't know how much giving them a program to sell isn't a poisend pill since, at least sometimes, it seems to cost more to produce/upgrade etc, than the money they get from the sales). Very true in some

[ql-users] GPL or not GPL, that is the question

2004-03-19 Thread Arnould Nazarian
Peter Graf a écrit: Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: The software Peter is producing seems too important (...) Not if it isn't made available. Which is only true if my offer is rejected. I therefore conclude that keeping SMSQ/E from from the GPL has a much higher priority (for Wolfgang Co.) than

Re: [ql-users] Re: Changing the subject

2004-03-19 Thread Arnould Nazarian
Wolfgang Lenerz a écrit: Contray to Peter, I will always consider trying to sell my programs, or at least some of them (I hasten to add that this has nothing to do with SMSQ/E, which is not mine). For me, it is a question of commitment: if people buy my (or, indeed anybody else's

RE: [ql-users] Beginning a succesful QL journey

2004-03-19 Thread Duncan Neithercut
] Subject: [ql-users] Beginning a succesful QL journey Hi all.. Have been lurking here for a while, reading the various threads, along with looking at different websites, faqs etc. As a beginner, the QL world seemed very complicated, with strangely named Trump Cards, Gold Cards, and hundred

Re: [ql-users] Re: Changing the subject

2004-03-19 Thread Tony Firshman
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 at 18:49:44, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) On 19 Mar 2004 at 16:54, Tony Firshman wrote: Maybe we ought to resort to old fashioned sheep. No thanks, I already look sheepish enough most of the time. I thought you were more wolf like (8-)# --

[ql-users] Re: [ql-users] Re: [ql-users] Re: Re: Re: [ql-users] £ 0.00 to spend! (1s t attempt)

2004-03-19 Thread Jeremy Taffel
: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 6:21 PM Subject: [ql-users] Re: [ql-users] Re: Re: Re: [ql-users] £ 0.00 to spend! (1s t attempt) Mind you the 300bps acoustic coupler modem is a bit limiting (8-)# It was Z88 like, but with a great keyboard, but poor screen. Acoustic coupler? Is that a modem that plays

Re: [ql-users] GPL or not GPL, that is the question

2004-03-19 Thread RWAPSoftware
In a message dated 19/03/2004 19:41:39 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As I see it the current licence is only a security for TT: if an unknown organisation did make money with SMSQ/E, there would be an argument to get something for him. IMHO he deserves it. Please

Re: [ql-users] Re: Changing the subject

2004-03-19 Thread RWAPSoftware
In a message dated 19/03/2004 16:57:40 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This was Rich with bad attribute--^ Maybe... Or maybe I am just echoing the feelings of other traders and QL users who long ago abandoned the scene (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])Agreed - the QL traders

Re: [ql-users] GPL or not GPL, that is the question

2004-03-19 Thread Dave P
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed, but the problem is that if someone converted Peter's work to run under SMSQ/e and it does involve changes to the operating system. Why? Because the GPL says that any future changes must also be released under the GPL licence terms

Re: [ql-users] Re: Re: [ql-users] Re: Re: [ql-users] Re: [q l-users] Re: £ 0...

2004-03-19 Thread RWAPSoftware
understand? 2) Would it have any effect on TT?? 3) Has anyone other than Peter ever offered to make any other updates ONLY once SMSQ/e is under the GPL licence? If Peter is unwilling to allow the majority of QL users have access to hiscode, then so be it - we will just have to accept

Re: [ql-users] GPL or not GPL, that is the question

2004-03-19 Thread RWAPSoftware
In a message dated 19/03/2004 23:16:57 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Agreed, but the problem is that if someone converted Peter's work to run under SMSQ/e and it does involve changes to the operating system. Why? Because the GPL says that any future changes must

Re: [ql-users] Re: Changing the subject

2004-03-19 Thread swensont
On 19 Mar 2004 at 16:47, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: Contray to Peter, I will always consider trying to sell my programs, or at least some of them (I hasten to add that this has nothing to do with SMSQ/E, which is not mine). I understand the point of commitment by paying for the software.

Re: [ql-users] Re: Changing the subject

2004-03-19 Thread swensont
On 19 Mar 2004 at 16:47, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: Contray to Peter, I will always consider trying to sell my programs, or at least some of them (I hasten to add that this has nothing to do with SMSQ/E, which is not mine). I understand the point of commitment by paying for the software.

Re: [ql-users] Re: Changing the subject

2004-03-19 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 19 Mar 2004 at 21:41, Tony Firshman wrote: No thanks, I already look sheepish enough most of the time. I thought you were more wolf like (8-)# but in sheeps' clothes, of course... Wolfgang QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk

[ql-users] Re: Re: [ql-users] Re: [ql-users] Re: [ql-u sers] Re: £ 0.00 to sp end! (1st attem. ..

2004-03-18 Thread Tony Firshman
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 at 06:59:20, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) On 17 Mar 2004 at 16:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do however wonder what version DD supplies with their machines?? If they are not supplying the latest version, then they would seem to be selling their

[ql-users] Re: [ql-users] Re: [ql-users] Re: [ql-u sers] Re: £ 0.00 to sp end! (1st attem. ..

2004-03-18 Thread Dilwyn Jones
I do announce new versions here. You can also check the latest version at www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com/smsqe Wolfgang I've added this address to the QL Net page on my website, so anyone wanting to check Wolfgang's work and mislaid this email, just go via the net links page on my website. Space

[ql-users] Re: [ql-users] Re: [ql-users] Re: £ 0.00 to spend! (1st attempt)

2004-03-18 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Just wondering if making a new Q60 SMSQ/E would be a matter of bolting on Q60 specific modules to standard SMSQ/E releases? There already are Q60 specific modules. That's what I meant. Not having a Q60 here I didn't know if SMSQ/E for Q60 was same SMSQ/E version as QXL, QPC, Gold Card etc

Re: [ql-users] problem with the new C68 pieces for WMAN

2004-03-18 Thread Geogwilt
In a message dated 14/03/04 11:39:37 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: After compiling, I am getting an undefined symbol 'RELOC_START'. Looking at my original LIBC_A file, I see it in there but I don't see it in the new version with George's updates. Any ideas? I'm sorry if

Re: [ql-users] £ 0.00 to spend! (1s t attempt)

2004-03-18 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 18 Mar 2004 at 9:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You might try driving without tyres. But would that be driving? Wolfgang

Re: [ql-users] Re: [ql-users] Re: [ql-users] Re: [ql-u sers] Re: £ 0.00 to sp end! (1st attem. ..

2004-03-18 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 18 Mar 2004 at 14:00, Dilwyn Jones wrote: Space permitting, I might put a little summary of recent changes and version numbers into QL Toady soon. Want me to wend you a text file with the changes? Wolfgang

Re: [ql-users] (1st attempt)

2004-03-18 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 18 Mar 2004 at 13:48, Dilwyn Jones wrote: (...) That's what I meant. Not having a Q60 here I didn't know if SMSQ/E for Q60 was same SMSQ/E version as QXL, QPC, Gold Card etc etc Yes. Of course. That's the whole purpose, innit? Wolfgang

[ql-users] Re: [ql-users] Re: [ql-users] £ 1000 to spend! (2nd attempt!)

2004-03-18 Thread gwicks
- Original Message - From: Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ql-users] Re: [ql-users] £ 1000 to spend! (2nd attempt!) Does this fall into the parameters of what you were looking for Geoff - the possibility of paying someone to extend the SDUMP system. Of course, a small(ish

[ql-users] Re: [ql-users] Re: [ql-users] Re: [ql-users] Re: [ql-u sers] Re: £ 0.00 to sp end! (1st attem. ..

2004-03-18 Thread Dilwyn Jones
On 18 Mar 2004 at 14:00, Dilwyn Jones wrote: Space permitting, I might put a little summary of recent changes and version numbers into QL Toady soon. Want me to wend you a text file with the changes? Wolfgang I've taken what's on your website, unless you have more? -- Dilwyn Jones

[ql-users] Re: [ql-users] Re: [ql-users] Re: [ql-users] £ 1000 to spend! (2nd attempt!)

2004-03-18 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Does this fall into the parameters of what you were looking for Geoff - the possibility of paying someone to extend the SDUMP system. Of course, a small(ish) job, but one that could be incoporated into a lot of programs. Perhaps we should start thinking of what sort of routines we would

[ql-users] Fancy testing the New Mailing list address ?

2004-03-18 Thread Bruce N
I am in the process of making changes to a more robust mailing list solution for ql-users and would like a few volunteers to test the new system. If you have the time and bandwidth to receive 'two messages for one' please contact me at the address below. - Bruce

[ql-users] Please ignore

2004-03-18 Thread Bruce N
Please ignore this test message.

[ql-users] Beginning a succesful QL journey

2004-03-18 Thread s m gadd
Hi all.. Have been lurking here for a while, reading the various threads, along with looking at different websites, faqs etc. As a beginner, the QL world seemed very complicated, with strangely named Trump Cards, Gold Cards, and hundred of programs, expansions and websites uncomfortably

Re: [ql-users] problem with the new C68 pieces for WMAN

2004-03-18 Thread James Hunkins
This weekend I will try rebuilding everything from scratch (with the suitable backup since I can't afford the downtime :) ). I am thinking that the RELOC stuff might have snuck in during one of the interim 'patches' to the library and might not be needed. Will post my success after I do the

[ql-users] Re: Re: Re: [ql-users] £ 0.00 to spend! (1s t attempt)

2004-03-17 Thread Tony Firshman
On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 at 18:31:04, wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Personally, the lack of Internet access for the QL/Q40 is not an issue for me. I have a PC for most of my Internet use (dial up) and use the system at work for larger downloads (T-1). I look at the QL as a nice hobbiest

[ql-users] Re: £ 0.00 to spend! (1st attempt)

2004-03-17 Thread pgraf
Bill Cable wrote: I would also be willing to chip in some $$ also and it could possibly work in one of 2 ways. Either buy the rights to put SMSQ/E under the GPL or pay Peter to release his work under GPL for QDOS Classic or Minerva. This looks like a fundamental misunderstanding. I do not

Re: [ql-users] Re: £ 0.00 to spend! (1st attempt)

2004-03-17 Thread Dave P
On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This looks like a fundamental misunderstanding. I do not want any money for my work. A person who does not want money must want something more valuable. ;) Dave

Re: [ql-users] Re: £ 0.00 to spend! (1st attempt)

2004-03-17 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 17 Mar 2004 at 9:37, Dave P wrote: A person who does not want money must want something more valuable. ;) Value, like beauty, lies in the eyes of the beholder... Wolfgang

Re: [ql-users] Re: £ 0.00 to spend! (1st attempt)

2004-03-17 Thread Peter Graf
proportion of QL users. Re that, I answered your previous posting. But it didn't seem to have been redistributed by the listserver. Maybe just a matter of days. Peter

[ql-users] Re: [ql-users] Re: Re: Re: [ql-users] £ 0.00 to spend! (1s t attempt)

2004-03-17 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Mind you the 300bps acoustic coupler modem is a bit limiting (8-)# It was Z88 like, but with a great keyboard, but poor screen. Acoustic coupler? Is that a modem that plays the sound through the telephone handset rather than plug into the phone line? I remember reading about that kind of thing

[ql-users] Blobs

2004-03-17 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Aftera recent comment on this list, I again tried (and failed) to get blobs and patterns to work in Easyptr programs. Anyone had any success and able to hint at where I might be going wrong? Files seem to get saved OK (I seem to be able to produce blobs and patterns) but things go wrong when I

[ql-users] Re: [ql-users] Re: £ 0.00 to spend! (1st attempt)

2004-03-17 Thread Dilwyn Jones
I would also be willing to chip in some $$ also and it could possibly work in one of 2 ways. Either buy the rights to put SMSQ/E under the GPL or pay Peter to release his work under GPL for QDOS Classic or Minerva. This looks like a fundamental misunderstanding. I do not want any money

Re: [ql-users] Re: £ 0.00 to spend! (1st attempt)

2004-03-17 Thread Bill Cable
This looks like a fundamental misunderstanding. I do not want any money for my work. All the best Peter Sorry about that. I am always hoping for that elusive web capability for the QL one way or another. I have several computer related projects at home but none could possibly be done on

[ql-users] Re: [ql-users] £ 1000 to spend! (2nd attempt!)

2004-03-17 Thread Dilwyn Jones
This means that Quanta would have a sum of about £1,000 each year to spend on QL development. How should they spend this money? In fact Quanta would have two possible ways of financially stimulating QL development. Major projects (SGC successor?) could be financed out of the capital. These

[ql-users] Re: [ql-users] £ 1000 to spend! (2nd attempt!)

2004-03-17 Thread gwicks
- Original Message - From: Jeremy Taffel [EMAIL PROTECTED] You have said that Quanta is heading towards a £1000 a year structural profit. I am also interested in how much Quanta has in realisable assets. The reason I ask, is that as has been pointed out, the pond is now a puddle

[ql-users] Re: [ql-users] Re: [ql-users] Re: £ 0.00 to spend! (1st attempt)

2004-03-17 Thread Roy wood
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes SNIP Alternatively, instead of forcing money he doesn't want onto Peter Graf, an alternative approach might be to buy into Q60 SMSQ/E maintenance, i.e. whoever is building and releasing the new SMSQ/E gets paid to produce a Q60

Re: [ql-users] Re: [ql-users] Re: [ql-users] Re: £ 0.00 to sp end! (1st attem...

2004-03-17 Thread RWAPSoftware
In a message dated 17/03/2004 20:40:47 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writesSNIPAlternatively, instead of forcing money he doesn't want onto PeterGraf, an alternative approach might be to buy into Q60

Re: [ql-users] Blobs

2004-03-17 Thread RWAPSoftware
In a message dated 17/03/2004 18:31:38 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Aftera recent comment on this list, I again tried (and failed) to getblobs and patterns to work in Easyptr programs.Anyone had any success and able to hint at where I might be goingwrong? Files seem

Re: [ql-users] Hyperbrowser

2004-03-17 Thread RWAPSoftware
In a message dated 16/03/2004 18:54:50 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I had looked at your browser efforts briefly as I was looking for a Help solution for QDT (haven't found one yet) and am still interested. Still would be interested in using it with some added

[ql-users] Re: [ql-users] Re: [ql-users] Re: Re: Re: [ql-users] £ 0.00 to spend! (1s t attempt)

2004-03-17 Thread Tony Firshman
On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 at 18:21:03, Dilwyn Jones wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Mind you the 300bps acoustic coupler modem is a bit limiting (8-)# It was Z88 like, but with a great keyboard, but poor screen. Acoustic coupler? Is that a modem that plays the sound through the telephone handset

Re: [ql-users] Re: [ql-users] Re: £ 0.00 to spend! (1st attempt)

2004-03-17 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 17 Mar 2004 at 18:28, Dilwyn Jones wrote: How much of SMSQ/E for Qx0 is modular and how much inbuilt (i.e. has to be rewritten every time a new SMSQ/E is released)? Nothing has to be rewrittenfor the Q60 (or any other machine) every time a new SMSQ/E is released, unless some changes are

Re: [ql-users] Re: [ql-users] Re: [ql-users] Re: Re: Re: [q l-users] £ 0.00 to spend! (1s t attempt)

2004-03-17 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 17 Mar 2004 at 23:37, Tony Firshman wrote: (...) You had to dial manually, listen for the tones, and fit the coupler. ... and the 'monitor' was a wide carriage IBM golfball printer. Those were the days (8-)# May they never come back! Wolfgang

Re: [ql-users] £ 1000 to spend! (2nd attempt!)

2004-03-16 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
I haven't answered on this thread until now mainly because (in the first attempt...) I wasn't sure whether that kind of money would conceivably around in this matter. Now that Geoff has given more details, here's my 2 cents' worth. I don't know whether offering something like 1000 pounds for

[ql-users] Hyperbrowser

2004-03-16 Thread James Hunkins
Hi Tarquin, I had looked at your browser efforts briefly as I was looking for a Help solution for QDT (haven't found one yet) and am still interested. Still would be interested in using it with some added capabilities (pointer, simple graphics, perhaps a few other things). Unfortunately no

[ql-users] Re: [ql-users] £ 1000 to spend! (2nd attempt!)

2004-03-16 Thread gwicks
- Original Message - From: Wolfgang Lenerz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] £ 1000 to spend! (2nd attempt!) SNIP I don't know whether offering something like 1000 pounds for software would be a good idea. The reason is that it is, in my mind, too much and too little

Re: [ql-users] £ 0.00 to spend! (1st attempt)

2004-03-16 Thread Tarquin Mills
Tarquin Mills wrote: [snipped] A refund plus damages, or small claims court action are looming. Peter Graf wants me to point out D D Systems would be liable not him. This all could have been avoid, but the ball has not been in my half of the court, so I could do nothing. --

[ql-users] Re: [ql-users] 1000 to spend! (2nd attempt!)

2004-03-16 Thread Phoebus R. Dokos ( . )
On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 19:22:18 +0100, Wolfgang Lenerz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't answered on this thread until now mainly because (in the first attempt...) I wasn't sure whether that kind of money would conceivably around in this matter. Now that Geoff has given more details, here's my 2

Re: [ql-users] Hyperbrowser

2004-03-16 Thread Tarquin Mills
Rich Mellor wrote: Everything aside, what would it take for you to finish the HyperBrowser ?? While people are surfing, a Internet (not web) Browser con never be finished. Also when you think of the size of Mozilla it cannot be finished. However HB can certainly be improved significantly.

[ql-users] Re: [ql-users] Re: [ql-users] £ 1000 to spend! (2nd attempt!)

2004-03-16 Thread Jeremy Taffel
: gwicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 7:52 PM Subject: [ql-users] Re: [ql-users] £ 1000 to spend! (2nd attempt!) - Original Message - From: Wolfgang Lenerz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] £ 1000 to spend! (2nd attempt!) SNIP I don't

Re: Re: [ql-users] £ 0.00 to spend! (1s t attempt)

2004-03-16 Thread swensont
Personally, the lack of Internet access for the QL/Q40 is not an issue for me. I have a PC for most of my Internet use (dial up) and use the system at work for larger downloads (T-1). I look at the QL as a nice hobbiest computer. I find it fun to use and to work on. I find learning more

RE: [ql-users] Eindhoven 27 mars

2004-03-15 Thread Claude Mourier 00
Désolé : non pour ma part Claude -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de Arnould Nazarian Envoyé : lundi 15 mars 2004 07:50 À : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : [ql-users] Eindhoven 27 mars Bjr, Est ce que qq'un de la région parisienne irait à

[ql-users] £ 0.00 to spend! (1st attempt)

2004-03-15 Thread pgraf
Hi, a short visit to this list, since I've been asked for a comment on a similar subject. As some of you know, I'm working on a software that has the realistic potential to provide - Native ethernet for Q40/Q60 - Driver for Nasta's unfinished ethernet extension (QL/GC/SGC...) - Native

Re: [ql-users] dragdrop

2004-03-15 Thread P Witte
Ive tried to post a certain message on this topic a number of times, but it doesnt get through! It doesnt contain any obscene language or anything like that (although the words size and large appear three times - could that be the problem?) I dont find this list server very reliable. Messages

[ql-users] Re: [ql-users] £ 0.00 to spend! (1st attempt)

2004-03-15 Thread P Witte
Peter Graf writes: Time for an offer: I could possibly be persuaded to try and integrate my drivers into SMSQ/E for the whole range of QL style machines, by a simple act of wisdom: Place SMSQ/E under the GPL. (I have no problem to accept modifications to allow QPC remain commercial.) Speaking

Re: [ql-users] £ 0.00 to spend! (1st attempt)

2004-03-15 Thread swensont
On 15 Mar 2004 at 17:55, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Time for an offer: I could possibly be persuaded to try and integrate my drivers into SMSQ/E for the whole range of QL style machines, by a simple act of wisdom: Place SMSQ/E under the GPL. (I have no problem to accept modifications to

Re: [ql-users] dragdrop

2004-03-14 Thread Wolfgang Uhlig
Per wrote: I thought Id have a go just to demonstrate: 100 s = SCR_BASE + SCR_LLEN + 4 : rem Start at top left of screen 110 xs = 100: ys = 10 : rem X/y size 150 POKE_L a, $2200020: rem Mode 32 sprite w alpha channel Per, this is

Re: [ql-users] Menu_rext

2004-03-14 Thread Dent
Merz wrote: Per was referring to WIN and RAM ... and I tried it the way described and it worked fine - no directories listed, no crash. Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: It does crash here, though, as said in my second message... I just never used win, because I use dev It happended on

[ql-users] Re: [ql-users] 1000 to spend! (2nd attempt!)

2004-03-14 Thread Wolfgang Uhlig
Geoff Wicks wrote: This means that Quanta would have a sum of about £1,000 each year to spend on QL development. How should they spend this money? On march, 8th, Laurence Reeves answered:: 1000 pounds to the person who ports OpenOffice? ;) That seems like a lot of cash for what is a pretty

[ql-users] problem with the new C68 pieces for WMAN

2004-03-14 Thread Christopher Cave
In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have been using this new stuff from George Gwilt with no problem BUT I suspect that in my setup the old version of the library can still be found by the linker. Is it not possible to extract this module from the old library using ar and then stick it in the

[ql-users] Re: [ql-users] £ 1000 to spend! (2nd attempt!)

2004-03-14 Thread Dent
gwicks wrote: snip This means that Quanta would have a sum of about £1,000 each year to spend on QL development. How should they spend this money? snip Remember your subscription is your money, not Quanta's. How would you like them to spend it on your behalf? Geoff Wicks. Hi Take a

Re: [ql-users] £ 1000 to spend! (2nd attempt!)

2004-03-14 Thread Arnould Nazarian
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: I was thinking on the subject of what next for the QL. I think we really need something that acts like a web browser. This means the display of text and graphics in the same viewer. There was an attempt a few years back at writing a web browser for the QL (from

[ql-users] Turbo

2004-03-14 Thread P Witte
Just thought I should mention something that might cause a few strange hiccoughs: Turbo Toolkit (TTK) comes in two different forms, one version for SMSQ/E and one generic version. The generic PEEK$ and POKE$ are a sub-set of SMSQ/E's PEEK$ and POKE$ and have therefore been ommitted in the SMSQ/E

[ql-users] Re: [ql-users] £ 1000 to spend! (2nd attempt!)

2004-03-14 Thread P Witte
Geoff Wicks writes: Remember your subscription is your money, not Quanta's. How would you like them to spend it on your behalf? In a way, hardware development is more deserving as hw developers have real outlays apart from spare time, ie their profit can go negative rather than just zero. But

Re: [ql-users] dragdrop

2004-03-14 Thread P Witte
Wolfgang Uhlig writes: I have two questions, though: 1) With the PVAL procedure (result%(10 and 11)) I can determine the origin of a window. How would I have to alter your line 100 when PVAL returns xorg%=500, yorg%=300 (just to take an example) As you will know by now, I sent you the

Re: [ql-users] Re: [ql-users] 1000 to spend! (2nd attempt!)

2004-03-14 Thread Lau
Wolfgang Uhlig wrote: Geoff Wicks wrote: This means that Quanta would have a sum of about £1,000 each year to spend on QL development. How should they spend this money? On march, 8th, Laurence Reeves answered:: 1000 pounds to the person who ports OpenOffice? ;) That seems like a lot of cash

Re: [ql-users] problem with the new C68 pieces for WMAN

2004-03-14 Thread James Hunkins
Actually, I believe that if you have both versions of the library available (your make file would have to include both), you would get notices of doubling defined items. I probably could extract this piece and move it over but am concerned that I have a piece that is old which is calling this.

Re: [ql-users] Menu_rext

2004-03-13 Thread Wolfgang Uhlig
Hi, no problem here whatsoever QPC, Menurext 7.65, SMSQ/E 3.04 Wolfgang

Re: [ql-users] Menu_rext

2004-03-13 Thread P Witte
On March 13, 2004 6:52 AM, Wolfgan Lenerz wrote: On 13 Mar 2004 at 1:37, P Witte wrote: (...) On 13 Mar 2004 at 3:17, Marcel Kilgus wrote: (...) Don't you guys ever sleep? Of course. Only we get up a wee bit earlier than you ;) Per

Re: [ql-users] Menu_rext

2004-03-13 Thread P Witte
Wolfgang Lenerz writes: On 13 Mar 2004 at 1:37, P Witte wrote: (...) I've now also tested this on ram, and the problem does, indeed, exist there But this is still with a patched version of menu_rext Thanks for your help - Marcel too. This gave me enough info to get a grip on the issue.

Re: [ql-users] dragdrop

2004-03-13 Thread Dilwyn Jones
when you program with EasyPtr, it is very easy to create dragdrop-routines where you do as if you'd really move the contents of a menuitem by setting the pointer to a sprite. I have done this in Launchpad with the Icon Move routines. If the contents of the menuitem is already a sprite, this

Re: [ql-users] Menu_rext

2004-03-13 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 13 Mar 2004 at 10:40, P Witte wrote: Don't you guys ever sleep? Of course. Only we get up a wee bit earlier than you ;) Per I didn't realize we had vampires on this list. Back into the coffin at the crack of dawn, huh? Wolfgang

Re: [ql-users] dragdrop

2004-03-13 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 13 Mar 2004 at 11:59, Wolfgang Uhlig wrote: Isn't there a possibility to make a sprite out of the string on the fly? Possibly with a background-system-colour? I know that there is something like blobs and patterns but I have never understood how this works. I'd like that very much

[ql-users] £ 1000 to spend! (2nd attempt!)

2004-03-13 Thread gwicks
Thanks to all the people who have replied to this thread. Nice to know I can still stir things up! Just a pity that the subject was hijacked into a discussion on printers although there were one or two other good suggestions. Thus a 2nd attempt to get answers. Let me be more specific why I

Re: [ql-users] Menu_rext

2004-03-13 Thread SMSQ - Jochen Merz
The first thing I do is replace every instance of DEV in menu_rext with ZZZ, thus avoiding this automatic replacement, which I just absolutely don't want. I thought that the problems with total memory corruption somehow were connected to that. I have never seen this on win devices, nor ram

Re: [ql-users] dragdrop

2004-03-13 Thread Wolfgang Uhlig
@ Dilwyn The easy alternative is to make a 'text' sprite which is made into the pointer sprite when the item to be dragged is text. This could be as simple as a sprite which looks like the letters 'TEXT' with a black border around it! (This is what I do in my programs). That's not what I mean. I

Re: [ql-users] dragdrop

2004-03-13 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Wolfgang Uhlig wrote: Do yo want to make a string into a sprite on the fly? Yes, I thought, I wrote that ;-) This would be a rather non trivial task! That's what I was afraid of. What would be the problem when trying to do this? That I'd like to know, too ;-) Sounds rather trivial to me.

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