Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-05-03 Thread David Tubbs
At 20:10 02/05/2007, you wrote: Could that be useful to you too ... ? Very poor, tho' good for killing startop progs, the DEFRAG is pathetic, it left 200 files in 1800 pieces for XP to clean up. The graphic was utterly deceptive. You have to register, when installed, which just means you then

Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-05-02 Thread Norman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: didn't it have 1 word, 2 bytes per sector: the file number in one byte ($f8 = sector map, $fd = free, $ff = dead) plus the block number within the file in the othe byte? I can't remember :o( Note tpp, every file fragmented of necessity by the interleave factor

Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-05-02 Thread David Tubbs
At 16:54 01/05/2007, you wrote: Try www.gtopala.com Very useful [and free for private use] :-) Searched in vain for a download. THis is a better link: http://www.shareup.com/SIW-download-23742.html Tony It was a struggle to find the download, and when done just loads of info but no

Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-05-02 Thread Tony Firshman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Tubbs wrote: At 16:54 01/05/2007, you wrote: Try www.gtopala.com Very useful [and free for private use] :-) Searched in vain for a download. THis is a better link: http://www.shareup.com/SIW-download-23742.html Tony It was a

Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-05-02 Thread David Tubbs
At 12:32 02/05/2007, you wrote: Yes - but a great deal of very good info. It is alarming, for instance, to see all ones passwords stored unencoded. More use in cracking open someone else's machine -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 /

Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-05-02 Thread Robert Newson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... LOAD and SAVE load and saves files in order (ie SuperBasic files). SAVE was the equivalent of OPEN#channel,file:LIST#channel:CLOSE#channel? SBYTES and LBYTES does the scatter loading. So the interleave is good for LOAD/SAVE but meaningless for SBYTES/LBYTES.

Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-05-02 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Tubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Clip I am always on the lookout for things that will strip out some of the bloat, have used XPLITE, Remove features and end up with more files and less space ! Anybody know something that works I recently got a copy of the

Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-05-01 Thread Norman
Morning Ade, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I must admit, I was assuming Sinclair had used 1024 byte blocks on his microdrives - I may need to be corrected on that. I suspect that 1024 is correct. Although, the freespace/total space numbers (on a DIR or STAT) was reported in sectors with a sector

Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-05-01 Thread Norman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I must try and write a program to see just how many directories there are. Assuming Linux (because you mentioned it) how about : cd \ ls -Rl | grep ^d | wc -l I got 2,889 on a test system I have here at work - and that's not from the root of the drive. Cheers,

Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-05-01 Thread Phil Kett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I must try and write a program to see just how many directories there are. Assuming Linux (because you mentioned it) how about : cd \ ls -Rl | grep ^d | wc -l I got 2,889 on a test system I have here at work - and that's not

Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-05-01 Thread Tobias Fröschle
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Norman, investigation ist simple: * ls -lR | grep ^d | wc -l 11.735 seconds of real time to find 2,889 directories This will put a directory of _all_ files on your harddisk into the pipe, grep will search through it and throw away most of it. * find ./ -type d

Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-05-01 Thread Robert Newson
David Tubbs wrote: At 15:10 30/04/2007, you wrote: I must admit, I was assuming Sinclair had used 1024 byte blocks on his microdrives - I may need to be corrected on that. 512 byte seectors. one map sector, one byte for each potential sector, I had a few mdvs of 250 sectors. didn't

Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-04-30 Thread Stephen Usher
Actually. I'd like the proper answer to that as well. I guessed that unformatted capacity represents the total amount of data that can be stored on the disk. Formatting added extra information (like an [un]allocated sector/cluster map, root directory, boot info and program, etc) that

Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-04-30 Thread Tony Firshman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David McCann wrote: All this has prompted me to look at my own 40GB disk. It is reported to have a capacity of 35.5GB (just 5.5GB used!), showing that Seagate used factors of 1000 and Linux of 1024. Looking at unused directories shows that every

Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-04-30 Thread Robert Newson
Ade Vickers wrote: ... I must admit, I was assuming Sinclair had used 1024 byte blocks on his microdrives - I may need to be corrected on that. Sinclair used 512 byte blocks/sectors on the mdvs. ^_^ (AFAIK) When a cartridge was formatted, the blocks were written with decreasing block

Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-04-30 Thread Ade Vickers
Robert Newson wrote: I must admit, I was assuming Sinclair had used 1024 byte blocks on his microdrives - I may need to be corrected on that. Sinclair used 512 byte blocks/sectors on the mdvs. ^_^ Of course I'd forgotten that. It's been too long since I used a QL in anger -- even

Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-04-30 Thread Robert Newson
Ade Vickers wrote: ... Sinclair used 512 byte blocks/sectors on the mdvs. ^_^ Of course I'd forgotten that. It's been too long since I used a QL in anger -- even though I have one set up right here in the office :-/ So... My estimate of 3.5million MDVs is, in fact, wrong; it should be

Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-04-30 Thread Ade Vickers
Robert Newson wrote: Ade Vickers wrote: ... Sinclair used 512 byte blocks/sectors on the mdvs. ^_^ Of course I'd forgotten that. It's been too long since I used a QL in anger -- even though I have one set up right here in the office :-/ So... My estimate of 3.5million

Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-04-30 Thread David Tubbs
At 15:10 30/04/2007, you wrote: I must admit, I was assuming Sinclair had used 1024 byte blocks on his microdrives - I may need to be corrected on that. 512 byte seectors. one map sector, one byte for each potential sector, I had a few mdvs of 250 sectors. Note tpp, every file fragmented of

Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-04-29 Thread Robert Newson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Of course, the capacity decreases when you format the disc as well (how did they work out the unformatted capacity, because, if it is unformatted then you cannot store anything on it !) I'd like the proper answer to that as well. I guessed that unformatted

Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-04-26 Thread Ade Vickers
Norman wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I am toying with getting a 400GB hard drive ... I I wonder how many QL microdrives that is the equivalent of ? Using 400 * 1024 * 1024 * 1024 bytes and dividing by 110 * 1024 bytes we get a grand total of 3,813,003.6363 (recurring)

Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-04-26 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Yes, I am toying with getting a 400GB hard drive ... I guess we just = can't get enough of it ... :-) I wonder how many QL microdrives that is the equivalent of ? Using 400 * 1024 * 1024 * 1024 bytes and dividing by 110 * 1024 bytes we get a grand total of 3,813,003.6363 (recurring)

Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-04-26 Thread Malcolm Cadman
? - Original Message - From: Malcolm Cadman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] new hard disk In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Last week I was pestering you all with questions about formatting

Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-04-26 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Yes, I am toying with getting a 400GB hard drive ... I guess we just = can't get enough of it ... :-) I wonder how many QL microdrives that is the equivalent of ? Using 400 * 1024 * 1024 * 1024 bytes and dividing by 110 *

Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-04-25 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Last week I was pestering you all with questions about formatting a new Hitachi Deskstar 250GB hard disk I was having problems with. I sent it back, the company quickly sent me a replacement and it worked first time when set up

Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-04-25 Thread John Gilpin
PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] new hard disk In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Last week I was pestering you all with questions about formatting a new Hitachi Deskstar 250GB hard disk I was having problems with. I sent

Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-04-24 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Last week I was pestering you all with questions about formatting a new Hitachi Deskstar 250GB hard disk I was having problems with. I sent it back, the company quickly sent me a replacement and it worked first time when set up today, exactly how all the helpful replies suggested it ought to.

Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-04-24 Thread Robert Newson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... like the new and useless NHS project or Trident etc. What I find extremely funny is that the first two episodes of Yes, Prime Minister! (originally broadcase Jan '86) were about scrapping Polaris and replacing it with Trident; and the comments given - eg

Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-04-23 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Tubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes The Defrag with DOS/Windows packs the data together, removing the fragments that got separated to be a whole continuous area of data. This is correct. Or is it ? Defrag as done by Windows only attempts to stitch FILES back

Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-04-21 Thread Dilwyn Jones
But after all the trauma, I wish I'd known about the 'Manage' window before, it makes life so easy. It has always been there ... :-) ... although now hidden from casual use. What comes of having such a simple life on a QL I suppose. Want to format something? Just enter a FORMAT command :-(

Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-04-19 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Try fdisk d: in a command line and see what transpires. I wouldn't expect that (fdisk d:) to work as d: wouldn't exist. IIRC when you run fdisk on a PC under [some form of] DOS, you select the drive number you wish to partition from a prompt [somewhere]. Although there's a Command Prompt

Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-04-19 Thread P Witte
Dilwyn Jones writes: Which has made me think - do QL hard disks (QXL.WIN or QUBIDE) ever need defragmenting? If so, how do we do it? (Never thought about that!) I dont know for sure whether QXL.WIN files ever need defragging. However, if they do, the easiest method currently available (I

Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-04-18 Thread Dilwyn Jones
: [ql-users] new hard disk OK, I give up. How do you get Windows XP to format a new second hard disk? The answer is simple if not very intuitive. Windows hides the Device manger because ;yer casual user' can easily destroy the system from there. Go to the start menu, right click anywhere

Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-04-18 Thread Dilwyn Jones
You really can't blame MS or Uncle Bill if you don't bother with what is on your PC (XP I presume). OK, hands up, I didn't know about this Manage utility (and it's great now I do). But I had been along the FDISK and FORMAT path which was a much clumsier way of doing it. After all that, it

Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-04-18 Thread Dilwyn Jones
OK, I give up. How do you get Windows XP to format a new second hard disk? I suspect that you need to partition the drive before Windows can use it. I beleieve that fdisk (fdisc maybe) is your 'friend'. Try fdisk d: in a command line and see what transpires. I'd been along this line and

Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-04-18 Thread Rick Chagouri-Brindle
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Morning Dilwyn, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I give up. How do you get Windows XP to format a new second hard disk? I suspect that you need to partition the drive before Windows can use it. I beleieve that fdisk (fdisc maybe) is your 'friend'. Try

Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-04-18 Thread Robert Newson
Rick Chagouri-Brindle wrote: ... Try fdisk d: in a command line and see what transpires. I wouldn't expect that (fdisk d:) to work as d: wouldn't exist. IIRC when you run fdisk on a PC under [some form of] DOS, you select the drive number you wish to partition from a prompt [somewhere].

Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-04-17 Thread Phil Kett
Dilwyn Jones wrote: OK, I give up. How do you get Windows XP to format a new second hard disk? I uninstalled the old drive D:\, switched off, restarted, the New Hardware Wizard found the new drive and it's now listed as drive D:\ in Device Manager. Now, how do I format it? It doesn't

Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-04-17 Thread John Gilpin
From the DOS Command line, have you tried FDisk? I think it is self explanatory but be careful to format the right disk - Formatting your C Drive would be disastrous. If in doubt, most basic DOS books will walk you through the procedure or the Help facility in Windows (if you search FDisk)

Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-04-17 Thread Tony Firshman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Gilpin wrote: From the DOS Command line, have you tried FDisk? I think it is self explanatory but be careful to format the right disk - Formatting your C Drive would be disastrous. If in doubt, most basic DOS books will walk you through

Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-04-17 Thread David Tubbs
At 09:27 17/04/2007, you wrote: OK, I give up. How do you get Windows XP to format a new second hard disk? I uninstalled the old drive D:\, switched off, restarted, the New Hardware Wizard found the new drive and it's now listed as drive D:\ in Device Manager. Now, how do I format it? It

Re: [ql-users] new hard disk

2007-04-17 Thread Paul Holmgren
Dilwyn Jones wrote: OK, I give up. How do you get Windows XP to format a new second hard disk? I uninstalled the old drive D:\, switched off, restarted, the New Hardware Wizard found the new drive and it's now listed as drive D:\ in Device Manager. Now, how do I format it? It doesn't