Re: spam and well known smtp servers

2000-07-05 Thread Erwin Hoffmann
Hi again, At 22:37 4.7.2000 +0200, Andre Oppermann wrote: Erwin Hoffmann wrote: Hi, since I'm dealing with the SPAMCONTROL patch, I would like to comment your problem: 1. You are right. Within the filtering mechanisms a logical "AND" scheme is missing. To implement this requires some

Re: spam and well known smtp servers

2000-07-05 Thread wolfgang zeikat
this is a bit off topic, but i consider it useful anyway ... http://spamcop.net offers handy online forms that process spam mails (do whois / dns lookups) and prepare a ready-to-send complaint emails with choices which ISP/Mail Server to send them to ... i use it a lot with spam arriving in our

cannot authenticate

2000-07-05 Thread webmaster
Hi there: I'm not sure if this list is the right place, or I should post it to vpopmail list. But please help. --- I'm new to qmail, but have installed it according to the INSTALL file, and faq. I also installed vpopmail. Problem is when I tested the system the delivery works fine. All mails

Converting mbox to maildir.

2000-07-05 Thread Morten Liebach
Hi I have used procmail to deliver to ~/Mail/* for a long time. There's a lot of mail in mbox-format that I would like to convert (actually 20 mbox-files, gee!) in one go, like: $ convert -R ~/Mail ~/Maildir or something like that. I couldn't find any programs/scripts for that anywherei, any

Re: spam and well known smtp servers

2000-07-05 Thread Cerberus - the Guardian of Hades
i need to unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] from this list as he is no longer a user at this server. please help. regards, mark On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Erwin Hoffmann wrote: Hi again, At 22:37 4.7.2000 +0200, Andre Oppermann wrote: Erwin Hoffmann wrote:

qmail-start

2000-07-05 Thread Dennis Robertson
Hello List, I am back after a disaster which caused a complete loss of all data including backups. I am trying to reinstate my previous mutt-qmail-fetchmail-procmail setup but unlike the first time I cannot do an error-free install of qmail. Firstly as user when I open a term I get the message:

RE: URGENT!!! HELP!!! HP-UX fault

2000-07-05 Thread Dave Kitabjian
Would you mind also posting the contents of your file, /var/qmail/rc? Thanks, Dave -Original Message- From: Eldar Imangulov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 2:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: URGENT!!! HELP!!! HP-UX fault Hello ppl! I have HP-UX

Re: URGENT!!! HELP!!! HP-UX fault

2000-07-05 Thread Eldar Imangulov
here it is: #!/sbin/sh # Using splogger to send the log through syslog. # Using qmail-local to deliver messages to ~/Mailbox by default. exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \ /var/qmail/bin/qmail-start ./Mailbox splogger qmail Regards, Eldar Imangulov

RE: tcpserver alpha linux problems

2000-07-05 Thread Hubbard, David
Hey thanks a lot Wayne, that fixed my problem. And here I was ready to blame the alpha. :-) Dave -Original Message- From: Wayne Chan To: Hubbard, David Sent: 7/3/00 11:14 PM Subject: Re: tcpserver alpha linux problems If you have setup your qmail according to life-with-qmail, try

RE: URGENT!!! HELP!!! HP-UX fault

2000-07-05 Thread Dave Kitabjian
Hmm. My untrained eye isn't seeing anything offhand, but perhaps the gurus here can comment. You might start isolating the problem by removing the " echo -n ' qmail'" from your script, and running it again. Also, look in /var/log/maillog; are there any messages being produced? Dave

Re: Converting mbox to maildir.

2000-07-05 Thread Ronny Haryanto
On 05-Jul-2000, Morten Liebach wrote: lot of mail in mbox-format that I would like to convert (actually 20 mbox-files, gee!) in one go, like: $ convert -R ~/Mail ~/Maildir or something like that. I couldn't find any programs/scripts for that anywherei, any ideas? (I've looked at

Re: Error message - Again

2000-07-05 Thread Dave Sill
Roberto Samarone Araújo (RSA) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't have any alias ... If a remote host send me an email , the qmail doesn't put it in Maildir ... it logs the error message : delivery 38: deferral: Unable_to_chdir_to_maildir._(#4.2.1)/ Did you check ~alias/Maildir? It's not

Clearing dead mail from queues

2000-07-05 Thread Barry Dwyer
I had to re-compile qmail. Prior to the recompile, there were 10 messages (all for local delivery) in 'todo'. After the recompile, with qmail running properly, those 10 have moved to the queue but are not being delivered. The log is showing the same error message for all - "wrong owner" (or

security issue

2000-07-05 Thread John Steniger
Hello, Running a network test against my recent qmail installation, I get reports on the mailto programs hole, which allows users to telnet to port 25 and issue: MAIL FROM: root@this_host RCPT: any program This allows users to potentially execute any command with root authority. The warning

Re: URGENT!!! HELP!!! HP-UX fault

2000-07-05 Thread Dave Sill
"Eldar Imangulov" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my qmail start script runs Ok, but qmail stops. When? Shortly after rebooting? When I restart qmail deamon manualy it keeps runing. Until you reboot? If so, it sounds like you need to disassociate qmail from the controlling tty, e.g. by "nohup"'ing

Re: qmail and dial-on-demand

2000-07-05 Thread Paul Jarc
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The other question that arises is that I'd quite like qmail *not* to accept SMTP mail from the outside world (my ISP delivers using SMTP but want it to continue to accept SMTP mail from other computers on my home LAN. How can I do this? man tcprules. If you have

Re: qmailq problem

2000-07-05 Thread Dave Sill
Steffan Hoeke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What *does* the last number in @4000395b7d5233ba0ecc delivery 123: success: did_1+0+0/ stand for ? The first number is a local delivery The second number is a remote delivery The third number is .. ? program deliveries -Dave

Re: spam and well known smtp servers

2000-07-05 Thread Rogerio Brito
On Jul 04 2000, Markus Stumpf wrote: But this is exactly the point. Valid (e.g.!!!) hotmail.com eMails should come from an outgoing hotmail.com smtp server. If they don't they're most probably faked sender addresses used by spammers. No, they should not. For instance, all my

Re: Re[4]: The most secure POP server

2000-07-05 Thread Scott Gifford
"clemensF" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Scott Gifford: to use apop, germanynet (calisto) barked, thay would not change their entire setup for just one customer, when i asked them for apop. i dared to ask only because their greeting looks like an apop prompt, and it even changes on

Re: security issue

2000-07-05 Thread Aaron L. Meehan
Quoting John Steniger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Running a network test against my recent qmail installation, I get reports on the mailto programs hole, which allows users to telnet to port 25 and issue: MAIL FROM: root@this_host RCPT: any program Huh. I've never heard of this exploit! Now,

Re: qmailq problem

2000-07-05 Thread Steffan Hoeke
On Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 11:41:16AM -0400, Sill, Dave wrote: Steffan Hoeke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What *does* the last number in @4000395b7d5233ba0ecc delivery 123: success: did_1+0+0/ stand for ? The first number is a local delivery The second number is a remote delivery The

Re: security issue

2000-07-05 Thread Scott Gifford
It is not an issue. I don't remember if qmail will silently drop these messages or return a bounce for them, but it most certainly will not run any programs as root because of them. ScottG. John Steniger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, Running a network test against my recent qmail

qmail on Digital UNIX 4.0D -- syslog problems

2000-07-05 Thread Bjørn Nordbø
Hello, I fixed the /sbin/loader errors I mentioned before the weekend by increasing the softlimit to 5000, but now I have another problem: According to TEST.delivery qmail should syslog a line whenever it starts. In my logs, I can't find anything, even though all of the qmail processes

Re: URGENT!!! HELP!!! HP-UX fault

2000-07-05 Thread Kvazimodo
my qmail start script runs Ok, but qmail stops. When? Shortly after rebooting? can't see when but when after the login into the system right after the reboot and say "ps -e | grep qmail" I see nothing. When I restart qmail deamon manualy it keeps runing. Until you reboot? Yes, untill next

Re: qmailq problem

2000-07-05 Thread Dave Sill
Steffan Hoeke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 11:41:16AM -0400, Sill, Dave wrote: Steffan Hoeke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What *does* the last number in @4000395b7d5233ba0ecc delivery 123: success: did_1+0+0/ stand for ? The first number is a local delivery The

Trying to get QMTP protocol to work....

2000-07-05 Thread Igor
I've read the information in the four page printout that covers Quick Mail Transfer Protocol (QMTP-19970201). Qmail and Qmtp has been set up on a linux machine. I can telnet into port 209 (no problems). The problem is, while writing a piece of software, I cannot "QMTP" e- mail to the linux

CNAME_lookup_failed_temporarily._(#4.4.3)

2000-07-05 Thread Claudinei Luis Bianchini
Hi, I had applied the patch for this and work very well with BIND. recently, I changed to DNScache and this message came back. where's the problem ?? -- Claudinei Luis Bianchini [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: CNAME_lookup_failed_temporarily._(#4.4.3)

2000-07-05 Thread Dave Sill
Claudinei Luis Bianchini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had applied the patch for this and work very well with BIND. recently, I changed to DNScache and this message came back. where's the problem ?? Exactly. What makes you think this message indicates a problem on your end? -Dave

Re: does qmail+ezmlm divid subscribers in chunks by domain?

2000-07-05 Thread Magnus Bodin
On Mon, Jul 03, 2000 at 09:54:25AM +0800, ??? wrote: for example: If I use ezmlm to build a mailling list. Which has 26 subscribers : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] All on the same host "remote.host" Then I send a message to the mailling list, does qmail+ezmlm 1.Send ONE

Mails vanished when remote2local via fetchmail

2000-07-05 Thread Karl Voit
On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, wolfgang zeikat wrote: Also sprach Karl Voit [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 04.07.2000: Ow. This is getting complicated now :( No its not. its logical: ;) I ment _my_ needs/configuration. [EMAIL PROTECTED] connects to your qmail via SMTP with a mail for [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bounce questions

2000-07-05 Thread Dave Sill
"Ian Layton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you for all the comments I received about my previous question. I am now needing to make a program that will analyses bounced messages from Qmail and be able to distinguish between hard (permanent bounces) and soft (temporary) bounces. Is there any

Re: tcprules, rcpthost, ip address problem

2000-07-05 Thread Tetsu Ushijima
Barry Dwyer writes: My tcp.smtp file has proper settings to allow the local clients to work as RELAYCLIENTS: 127.0.0.1:allow,RELAYCLIENT="" 192.168.0.:allow,RELAYCLIENT="" :allow Just a speculation, but is the firewall doing NAT? Does the mail server really see 192.168.0.n as client IP

Re: Masquerading while sending remote mail over ISP

2000-07-05 Thread Tetsu Ushijima
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When sending all mail as user me for remote hosts out of ./mailppp/ by: me@bbrade:~ maildirsmtp ./mailppp "" mail.arco.de bbrade I get following answer: It seems to me that this has nothing to do with masquerading issues. What are you trying to do? If you would

Re: spam and well known smtp servers

2000-07-05 Thread Paul Jarc
Cerberus - the Guardian of Hades writes: i need to unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] from this list as he is no longer a user at this server. please help. 0. Arrange for mail to those addresses to be delivered somewhere where you can get to it. 1.

Re: qmail-start

2000-07-05 Thread Paul Jarc
Dennis Robertson writes: Firstly as user when I open a term I get the message: env: qmail-start: Permission denied. I have followed both LWQ and the how-to and have checked permissions without finding what is wrong. Secondly, when I open a term I get a number like [1] 27087 in the top left

Changing bounce message

2000-07-05 Thread Ben Beuchler
The Powers That Be are making noises about not liking the text of qmail's bounce message. The whole "This is the qmail-send program at" thingy. I don't want to mess with DJB's pristine code, so I would rather not change it. Are there any good, concrete reasons to leave it alone? Or am I being

Re: Mails vanished when remote2local via fetchmail

2000-07-05 Thread Karl Voit
Now here's my problem: When my fetchmail sends all mails from my provider-server (sbox) to my server (tux), the mails don't come to my account. In fact, I don't know, where they're delivered to anyway :( Jul 5 19:03:36 tux qmail: 962816616.563087 delivery 160: success:

Re: qmail install question

2000-07-05 Thread Dave Sill
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Upon starting qmail, I get a looping error as svscan attempts to acquire these two directories, returning this error: supervise: fatal: unable to acquire qmail-send/supervise/lock: temporary failure supervise: fatal: unable to acuire qmail-smtpd/supervise/lock:

Re: Mails vanished when remote2local via fetchmail

2000-07-05 Thread Dave Sill
Karl Voit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When my fetchmail sends all mails from my provider-server (sbox) to my server (tux), the mails don't come to my account. In fact, I don't know, where they're delivered to anyway :( That's a fetchmail issue. What's in your .fetchmailrc? Have you looked in

Re: Changing bounce message

2000-07-05 Thread Magnus Bodin
On Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 01:55:44PM -0500, Ben Beuchler wrote: The Powers That Be are making noises about not liking the text of qmail's bounce message. The whole "This is the qmail-send program at" thingy. I don't want to mess with DJB's pristine code, so I would rather not change it. Are

Re: QMAIL delivery delay problem

2000-07-05 Thread Dave Sill
Peter Mitev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just installed the QMAIL package (i've done this many times). It seems to be running KO, except that when a message is delivered to the queue - nothing happens. QMAIL waits for about 10-20-60 minutes and then it sends the messages that are in the

RE: Changing bounce message

2000-07-05 Thread Chad Day
Big wigs probably don't like the humor in qmails bounce message. It's a shame.. I know I got a chuckle out of it the first time I read it. Chad -Original Message- From: Magnus Bodin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 3:13 PM To: qmail list Subject: Re: Changing

Re: Moving vpopmail users

2000-07-05 Thread Dave Sill
Charles Boening [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can get everything working just fine. It's when I try to copy my domains directory from my current production server that all goes bonkers. No kidding? Bonkers? Bummer... Perhaps if you were more specific about how exactly it went "bonkers" we could

Re: Changing bounce message

2000-07-05 Thread Ben Beuchler
On Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 09:12:46PM +0200, Magnus Bodin wrote: Because it's the nearest to a suggestion to a standard that is: http://cr.yp.to/proto/qsbmf.txt It's well defined and polite. What part of this bounce is it that you don't like? I *do* like it! I don't want to change it.

Re: Clearing dead mail from queues

2000-07-05 Thread Dave Sill
Barry Dwyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I clear the queue of these messages? I don't care if they get deleted in the process. You have several choices: 1) Do nothing: they'll be purged automatically either by being delivered or bounced. 2) Stop qmail, delete the queue files associated

Re: Changing bounce message

2000-07-05 Thread Dave Sill
Ben Beuchler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I *do* like it! I don't want to change it. I'm just trying to come up with reasonable arguments defending my position. Feel free to change it, but if you do, be careful not to break QSBMF (qmail-send bounce message format), which bounce parsers like those

Re: spam and well known smtp servers

2000-07-05 Thread clemensF
wolfgang zeikat: http://spamcop.net offers handy online forms i have used all sorts of anti-spam tricks, but presently i just look at the headers of a spam-mail trying to spot from which domain it really originated by scanning the recieved-lines and use "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" as well as

Re: spam and well known smtp servers

2000-07-05 Thread clemensF
Rogerio Brito: For instance, all my e-mails use iname.com as the envelope and as the From: field, but I don't send mail from them (in fact, they are in another country); I use my ISP's relays. my spam peeked up when i got myself an iname.com-account. i think they sell

Re: Mails vanished when remote2local via fetchmail

2000-07-05 Thread Karl Voit
On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Dave Sill wrote: Karl Voit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When my fetchmail sends all mails from my provider-server (sbox) to my server (tux), the mails don't come to my account. In fact, I don't know, where they're delivered to anyway :( That's a fetchmail issue.

Re: email error from outlook express

2000-07-05 Thread Einar Bordewich
Please, do not misinform users of qmail out there. By deleting rcphosts file, you open up qmail for third-party relaying. DON'T. What you rater ought to do, is to control who can relay against your SMTP-server with tools like tcpserver http://cr.yp.to/ucspi-tcp.html package. Keep helping

Re: spam and well known smtp servers

2000-07-05 Thread clemensF
Cyril Bitterich: But there is a good Point in you proposal. Maybe you just wanted to reject the mail with a notification that you do not accept this mail because they are not sent via Hotmail. that's dangerous. my experience told me never to answer suspect spammers. clemens

Re: Mails vanished when remote2local via fetchmail

2000-07-05 Thread Charles Cazabon
Karl Voit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now here's my problem: When my fetchmail sends all mails from my provider-server (sbox) to my server (tux), the mails don't come to my account. In fact, I don't know, where they're delivered to anyway :( The biggest problem here is that you're

rejecting subscribe/unsubscribe requests

2000-07-05 Thread Hand, Brian C.
How does one setup qmail and ezmlm to allow subscribes and unsubscribes to be done ONLY by command line. I apologize if this is documented somewhere but I only found out how to prevent posts to the mailing lists itself. Brian

Re: rejecting subscribe/unsubscribe requests

2000-07-05 Thread Paul Jarc
Hand, Brian C. writes: How does one setup qmail and ezmlm to allow subscribes and unsubscribes to be done ONLY by command line. If you remove listdir/public, ezmlm-manage will stop responding to all administrative requests, including -subscribe, -unsubscribe, and -get. If you want -get to keep

RE: Moving vpopmail users

2000-07-05 Thread Charles Boening
Apologies ... amazing what lack of sleep and frustration can do. I figured it out though. When I installed the new server, I put vpopmail in a different location and neglected to change the home directory in the vpasswd file. Thanks Charles -Original Message- From: Dave Sill

Re: Masquerading while sending remote mail over ISP

2000-07-05 Thread bbrade
On 05-Jul-00 Tetsu Ushijima wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When sending all mail as user me for remote hosts out of ./mailppp/ by: me@bbrade:~ maildirsmtp ./mailppp "" mail.arco.de bbrade I get following answer: It seems to me that this has nothing to do with masquerading issues.

.qmail

2000-07-05 Thread Eddie Greer
I need a little help, I got finally got qmail installed and everything appears to working fine. The problem is when I telnet to localhost 25 and follow the direction from the TEST.deliver, I connect to the port and run all the commands but the mail does not get delivered. I took a look at the

no more splogger

2000-07-05 Thread M.B.
I want to move away from splogger w/o making the full jump (yet) to supervise and other daemontools... here is my qmail rc file: mail1.wlv# more /var/qmail/rc #!/bin/sh # Using splogger to send the log through syslog. # Using qmail-local to deliver messages to ~/Mailbox by default. ulimit -n

Re: no more splogger

2000-07-05 Thread Adam McKenna
On Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 05:27:05PM -0700, M.B. wrote: I want to move away from splogger w/o making the full jump (yet) to supervise and other daemontools... here is my qmail rc file: mail1.wlv# more /var/qmail/rc #!/bin/sh # Using splogger to send the log through syslog. # Using

Re: no more splogger

2000-07-05 Thread Mark Mentovai
Adam McKenna wrote: On Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 05:27:05PM -0700, M.B. wrote: I want to move away from splogger w/o making the full jump (yet) to supervise and other daemontools... here is my qmail rc file: mail1.wlv# more /var/qmail/rc #!/bin/sh # Using splogger to send the log through

Re: no more splogger

2000-07-05 Thread Adam McKenna
On Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 08:50:52PM -0400, Mark Mentovai wrote: I don't know about the correctness of that line, but before adding it in you would also want to add "setuidgid qmaill" before it. Not true. qmail-start starts the logger as the log user (qmaill), eliminating the need for

RE: no more splogger

2000-07-05 Thread M.B.
exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \ qmail-start ./Maildir/ /usr/local/bin/multilog t s100 /var/log/qmail qmail unfortunately the above does no logging for me... nor if i put some quotes in... exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \ qmail-start ./Maildir/ '/usr/local/bin/multilog t

Re: no more splogger

2000-07-05 Thread Mark Mentovai
Adam McKenna wrote: On Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 08:50:52PM -0400, Mark Mentovai wrote: I don't know about the correctness of that line, but before adding it in you would also want to add "setuidgid qmaill" before it. Not true. qmail-start starts the logger as the log user (qmaill), eliminating

RE: no more splogger

2000-07-05 Thread Mark Mentovai
M.B. wrote: exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \ qmail-start ./Maildir/ /usr/local/bin/multilog t s100 /var/log/qmail qmail unfortunately the above does no logging for me... Get rid of the trailing qmail. It was an argument to splogger to tell it what program name to use. nor if i put

Re: no more splogger

2000-07-05 Thread Adam McKenna
On Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 09:39:56PM -0400, Mark Mentovai wrote: Adam McKenna wrote: On Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 08:50:52PM -0400, Mark Mentovai wrote: I don't know about the correctness of that line, but before adding it in you would also want to add "setuidgid qmaill" before it. Not true.

RE: no more splogger

2000-07-05 Thread M.B.
M.B. wrote: exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \ qmail-start ./Maildir/ /usr/local/bin/multilog t s100 /var/log/qmail qmail unfortunately the above does no logging for me... Get rid of the trailing qmail. It was an argument to splogger to tell it what program name to use.

RE: no more splogger

2000-07-05 Thread Mark Mentovai
M.B. wrote: now how might i pipe this thru tai64nlocal to get some readable (by me) time stamps in there? Yup. tai64nlocal converts what it sees on stdin and places it on stdout, so instead of "cat /export/home/qmaillogs/current" (or similar), you can use "tai64nlocal

Re: spam and well known smtp servers

2000-07-05 Thread David Benfell
On Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 09:41:50PM +0200, clemensF wrote: that's dangerous. my experience told me never to answer suspect spammers. As I recall, the argument is that by responding, you confirm that the e-mail address is valid. I can't say I've dealt with enough spam to have relevant

Re: Re[4]: The most secure POP server

2000-07-05 Thread clemensF
Scott Gifford: Just a guess; if the provider that won't provide APOP can provide you with plaintext passwords, then I don't know what their excuse is. well i told you mom! first they asked what apop is and when i explained it and hinted i'd want it -- pause -- and then they said they

Re: no more splogger

2000-07-05 Thread clemensF
Adam McKenna: should i be able to replace splogger w/ a multilog entry? say like: 'multilog t s100 /var/log/qmail' instead of the splogger above? would this then write files into /var/log/qmail? yes. clemens

Re: no more splogger

2000-07-05 Thread Adam McKenna
On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 07:04:51AM +0200, clemensF wrote: Adam McKenna: should i be able to replace splogger w/ a multilog entry? say like: 'multilog t s100 /var/log/qmail' instead of the splogger above? would this then write files into /var/log/qmail? yes. clemens Hi, I

Re: no more splogger

2000-07-05 Thread clemensF
M.B.: now how might i pipe this thru tai64nlocal to get some readable (by me) time stamps in there? qmail-start ./Maildir/ multilog t s500 !tai64nlocal /export/home/qmaillogs then every log that gets rotated out of business (current - @...) will have human readable timestamps. clemens