MX and POP3 on 2 machines

2000-06-15 Thread Michael T. Babcock
' that are for the virtual domains and stores them for POP3 or IMAP retrieval. 'mx.ourdomain' is also the SMTP box for sending messages out to the Internet. -- Michael T. Babcock

Re: MX and POP3 on 2 machines

2000-06-16 Thread Michael T. Babcock
. -- _/~-=##=-~\_ -=+0+=- Michael T. Babcock -=+0+=- ~\_-=##=-_/~ http://www.linuxsupportline.com/~pgp/ ICQ: 4835018

Re: [PATCH] Transparent maildir compression.

2000-06-16 Thread Michael T. Babcock
with tails) and does not change anything to the POP3 nor SMTP protocols. -- _/~-=##=-~\_ -=+0+=- Michael T. Babcock -=+0+=- ~\_-=##=-_/~ http://www.linuxsupportline.com/~pgp/ ICQ: 4835018

Limiting SMTP connections

2000-06-16 Thread Michael T. Babcock
of information. -- _/~-=##=-~\_ -=+0+=- Michael T. Babcock -=+0+=- ~\_-=##=-_/~ http://www.linuxsupportline.com/~pgp/ ICQ: 4835018

tcprules script

2000-06-16 Thread Michael T. Babcock
Does anyone have a quick script to check if a given tcprules file is newer than the .cdb version and generate the new one if it is? I'm not a big shell-script person. In other words, I'll write it in C if I have to ... -- _/~-=##=-~\_ -=+0+=- Michael T. Babcock

Re: tcprules script

2000-06-16 Thread Michael T. Babcock
I need to quit answering myself ... http://www.linuxsupportline.com/~pgp/linux/newer-0.1.tar.gz Returns 1 if first file is newer, 2 if second is newer, 0 if neither is. (I don't know if anyone else wanted this, but ...) "Michael T. Babcock" wrote: Does anyone have a quick scrip

Re: vpopmail + qmail

2000-06-17 Thread Michael T. Babcock
? Or are there any text based (pine-like) MUA's that can grab the mail via POP3? Or how about any docs on vpopmail -- _/~-=##=-~\_ -=+0+=- Michael T. Babcock -=+0+=- ~\_-=##=-_/~ http://www.linuxsupportline.com/~pgp/ ICQ: 4835018

Netscape Progress Patch

2000-07-18 Thread Michael T. Babcock
Are there any downsides to using the Netscape Messenger progress patch? In other words, does it violate the standards in such a way as to potentially break any other clients? Reminder of what patch does: replaces "okay();" in qmail-pop3d.c with puts("+OK ");

Re: questions about performance and setup

2000-07-18 Thread Michael T. Babcock
Nothing wrong with 100% CPU usage. It just means that the kernel was able to soak the CPU with work ... which is good. Maxing out your performance on a RAM disk at 75% CPU usage means your system has a problem somewhere. As for performance though, I'd be interested in seeing the actual numbers

Re: RBL list

2000-07-18 Thread Michael T. Babcock
If you use a caching nameserver, frequent domains will automatically be cached for a given amount of time. If you read the entire website for the RBL (or other related lists) you'll find that they have subscription options ... basically you'd set yourself up as a slave server that downloads the

Re: questions about performance and setup

2000-07-18 Thread Michael T. Babcock
Is UTIME necessary in a mail queue? If a logging filesystem were mounted on a separate disk (or network array, etc.) specifically for the mail queue, shouldn't it be mounted without UTIME? Bruce Guenter wrote: The only way to get truely zero seek performance is to use a log-structured file

Re: Netscape Progress Patch

2000-07-18 Thread Michael T. Babcock
Does anyone know if this behaviour persists in Mozilla? http://bugzilla.mozilla.org Russell Nelson wrote: Petr Novotny writes: Well, yeah. "+OK" field is mandatory, the rest is optional and can be anything. Netscape is brain-dead to parse the comment and try to make anything of it.

Re: qmailanalog and zoverall.

2000-07-18 Thread Michael T. Babcock
Is awk perhaps using an output format that uses scientific notation when the number (mbytes) is too large? Should you change "print mbytes" to "printf ("%d", mbytes)" ??? Moragues Ramón, Antonio wrote: Hi, I run a qmail server and I want know the total number of bytes sent trought it, y

Re: questions about performance and setup

2000-07-18 Thread Michael T. Babcock
these off may or may not reduce performance penalties of fsync()'s. Might be an issue for the ReiserFS or EXT3 people to think about. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 18, 2000 at 01:25:36PM -0400, Michael T. Babcock wrote: Is UTIME necessary in a mail queue? If a logging filesystem were

Re: questions about performance and setup

2000-07-18 Thread Michael T. Babcock
Yes, sorry ... utime. But as I said in the other message ... it would be nice. Bruce Guenter wrote: You cannot mount without mtime (I misspelt it -- utime is the syscall) AFAIK. You can mount without atime (access time). mtime is changed every time the file is modified. ctime is changed

Unable to fork

2000-07-21 Thread Michael T. Babcock
I've got a problem: Jul 21 09:20:10 gw2 smtpd: 964185610.174990 tcpserver: status: 1/50 Jul 21 09:20:10 gw2 smtpd: 964185610.175379 tcpserver: warning: dropping connection, unable to fork: temporary failure Jul 21 09:20:10 gw2 smtpd: 964185610.175566 tcpserver: status: 0/50

Re: orbs.org accuses qmail of mailbomb relaying!

2000-07-21 Thread Michael T. Babcock
I would have to agree with the multiple connections == bad neighbour behaviour (if this is true). I might encourage re-ordering of sends to have parallel, per-MX queues ... msg1 - mx1 (in progress) msg2 - mx2 (start another process) msg3 - mx1 (queue and send on same connection as #1 when #1 is

Re: orbs.org accuses qmail of mailbomb relaying!

2000-07-21 Thread Michael T. Babcock
The issue of bandwidth management is the #1 issue for higher level ISPs right now. Obviously you don't read the trade magazines or talk to those persons. The move to lower bandwidth consumption of websites in general has picked up speed as well. Many many sites and organisations are taking a

Re: orbs.org accuses qmail of mailbomb relaying!

2000-07-21 Thread Michael T. Babcock
John White wrote: On Fri, Jul 21, 2000 at 10:30:41AM -0400, Mark Mentovai wrote: That's very easy on a host-by-host basis, and I use it for certain setups. The problem is that there shouldn't be any "domain in question," an MTA should make efficient use of a limited number of SMTP

Re: orbs.org accuses qmail of mailbomb relaying!

2000-07-21 Thread Michael T. Babcock
Don't get me wrong. I like Qmail for the most part. I just think there's room for improvement. And room for less attitude ... hint. Petr Novotny wrote: The problem is that there shouldn't be any "domain in question," an MTA should make efficient use of a limited number of SMTP sessions

Re: orbs.org accuses qmail of mailbomb relaying!

2000-07-21 Thread Michael T. Babcock
I agree. But I think we're both just labelled as radicals for wanting better than the best there is. Microsoft ended up with good software at some point in time ... best of its class even ... then stopped making it better. Hint ;-). Mark Mentovai wrote: I use qmail because it meets most of

Re: orbs.org accuses qmail of mailbomb relaying!

2000-07-22 Thread Michael T. Babcock
and the 25 or 30 copies all show up in parallel to the remote site. PS, 2 months ago. Petr Novotny wrote: On 21 Jul 00, at 11:17, Michael T. Babcock wrote: While you ponder the answer to those questions, qmail will have delivered the mail. Or crashed a mailserver. Please stop

Re: orbs.org accuses qmail of mailbomb relaying!

2000-07-22 Thread Michael T. Babcock
John White wrote: On Fri, Jul 21, 2000 at 11:20:00AM -0400, Michael T. Babcock wrote: No, but if qmail is making the deliveries to another MTA, that MTA doesn't have much choice about whether its going to accept deliveries from Qmail or not, so why not make Qmail a nice neighbour while

Re: orbs.org accuses qmail of mailbomb relaying!

2000-07-22 Thread Michael T. Babcock
I'd love to. Read my previous message. If I see some discussion about it, and enough people are actually interested, I may end up investing enough time to get this off the ground. I may not. I have four other pieces of software to write (from scratch) over the next week. John White wrote:

Re: orbs.org accuses qmail of mailbomb relaying!

2000-07-22 Thread Michael T. Babcock
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not really going to re-enter this recurring fray, but it is amusing to note that web browsers open multiple connections at once in an effort to speed up their perceived performance. I don't see much push to stop that sort of greedy behaviour. I do. HTTP 1.1 was

Re: orbs.org accuses qmail of mailbomb relaying!

2000-07-22 Thread Michael T. Babcock
I would be really interested in seeing those numbers in the FAQ somewhere ... Charles Cazabon wrote: A few people have done the math; MTAs which aggregate recipients to save bandwidth tend to have more overhead network bandwith (additional MX lookups, etc), and the savings is not as great as

Re: orbs.org accuses qmail of mailbomb relaying!

2000-07-22 Thread Michael T. Babcock
Ok then, on an honest note, the point would then be to have an MTA regulate its incoming connections in an 'intelligent' manner so as to allow mail to actually get through from non-qmail MTAs within a reasonable time frame? If I allow 20 simultaneous connections (hypothetically) and mail is

Re: orbs.org accuses qmail of mailbomb relaying!

2000-07-22 Thread Michael T. Babcock
David Dyer-Bennet wrote: I would have to agree with the multiple connections == bad neighbour behaviour (if this is true). I might encourage re-ordering of sends to have parallel, per-MX queues ... This is very hard to do, and expensive. And it would slow down mail delivery, both

Attitude

2000-07-22 Thread Michael T. Babcock
I think a large number of people on this list need to spend more time actually listening to and considering people's concerns than simply saying 'thats not how we do things here'. Anyone else read DJB's discussions about being on the nameserver mailing list? I'm not being moderated out (I

Re: orbs.org accuses qmail of mailbomb relaying!

2000-07-22 Thread Michael T. Babcock
3) Opening M connections (where M N) and sending the messages down those M pipes without marking the message as having gone through a "could not connect to mail server" situation but queuing it for that MX instead. ?? Dave Sill wrote: Mark Mentovai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not? You

Re: orbs.org accuses qmail of mailbomb relaying!

2000-07-22 Thread Michael T. Babcock
If, however, you admit that it causes problems for sendmail installations, and you admit that a lot of sites use sendmail, then you'll probably agree that defining "good netizen" would include "limiting outgoing connections to a particular MX" ... to some reasonable number (heck, you can detect

Re: orbs.org accuses qmail of mailbomb relaying!

2000-07-22 Thread Michael T. Babcock
, Michael T. Babcock wrote: And DJB has already proposed other protocol solutions that don't handle this issue either. That said, your comment is moot. SMTP has lots of problems, why _not_ solve them? This isn't a problem with SMTP -- It's a problem with MTA's that don't handle lots of incoming

Re: Unable to send a huge file

2000-07-22 Thread Michael T. Babcock
Yes, I've seen this too. I can almost guarantee that the user on the remote server has exceeded their storage allocation. They've probably received a message from the server telling them they should delete some mail. Incidentally, in RFC 821, that is the exact text for error 552. Hotmail et.

Re: Permissions Dilemma?

2000-07-22 Thread Michael T. Babcock
You might just be running into chown user.group problems ... try escaping the '.' or wrapping the username in quotes. That failing, does al.koch have an entry in /etc/passwd? Your final question makes me believe that none of your users are in /etc/passwd at all. You might want to convert to

Re: [spam score 2.14/10.0 -pobox] qmqpc load balancing

2000-07-22 Thread Michael T. Babcock
Wouldn't you just rotate the mailservers? Go from A to B to C instead of picking one randomly? I don't see how random distribution is going to be less balanced than a simple round-robin, and generating random numbers tends to take more computation than incrementing a variable. "Austad, Jay"

Re: minifaq

2000-07-22 Thread Michael T. Babcock
"John van V." wrote: I am building a site to toot the horn of public domain products that have industrial strength. I'm not aware of Qmail being public domain ... I see a public domain statement in sgetopt and subgetopt ... but that is all. (please correct me if I'm wrong -- and the

Re: Data in exel to Vpopmail

2000-07-22 Thread Michael T. Babcock
Export to CSV format, then you can import them into MySQL with very little difficulty (LOAD DATA ... see MySQL manual). If you're not using MySQL authentication, sorry. "Javier Vino R." wrote: I have a big table in MS exel with de login and pass, How can I do to import from VPOPMAIL all the

[Fwd: Returned mail: User unknown]

2000-07-22 Thread Michael T. Babcock
] Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 08:29:08 -0400 From: (Michael T Babcock) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: (Charles Cazabon) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: orbs.org accuses qmail of mailbomb relaying!

Re: Alan @ ORBS

2000-07-22 Thread Michael T. Babcock
I'd have to agree. I'm using ORBS ... but it was a lot of internal arguing (my head :-) At some point I need to rewrite the ORBS interface software to both bounce the messages and deliver them to a temporary store where I can review them. Russell Nelson wrote: Alan is the south end of a

Re: qmqpc load balancing

2000-07-22 Thread Michael T. Babcock
True, but its quite valid to round-robin several servers to keep any one from ever getting a high load in the first place. eg. the way load-balancing HTTP usually works. Russell Nelson wrote: Austad, Jay writes: Instead of having qmqpc picking the first available server, I would like it

Re: orbs.org accuses qmail of mailbomb relaying!

2000-07-22 Thread Michael T. Babcock
I understand the point you're correcting (of mine) but I would like a clarification on Qmail's behaviour when a given message is about to be delivered and the foreign host refuses the connection because it has too many incoming sessions open. Peter van Dijk wrote: Also, the other hosts will

Re: orbs.org accuses qmail of mailbomb relaying!

2000-07-22 Thread Michael T. Babcock
Well written. Pavel Kankovsky wrote: Hmm...RSET needs one roundtrip (C: RSET, S: OK). A new SMTP connection needs 3 roundtrips: 1. C:TCP(SYN), S:TCP(SYN+ACK), 2. C:TCP(ACK), S:server hello, 3. C:HELO, S:OK. Moreover a typical TCP implementation will open every new connection with most

Re: another broken mailer [MAILER-DAEMON@infoteen.com: Returned Mail: user qmail@list.cr.yp.to unknown!]

2000-07-22 Thread Michael T. Babcock
I think unsubscribing them is probably unnecessary, but blocking their 'bounce' messages at the list server would probably be smart. "Aaron L. Meehan" wrote: My mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] bounced, so I malleted them into badmailfrom--they are kind enough to send their bounces with a non-null

Re: another broken mailer - #2

2000-07-22 Thread Michael T. Babcock
Scratch previous comment -- bounces are going to individual senders, not to list (because headers are not rewritten, which is a good thing, I suppose). I'll add a filter myself for my host. "Aaron L. Meehan" wrote: My mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] bounced, so I malleted them into

Re: remote load management, was orbs.org nonsense

2000-07-22 Thread Michael T. Babcock
For your #1: this would be similar to the Linux kernel approach to DMA on hard drives ... enable by default, except on those drives we have in database of broken drives. As for #2 and #3: this adds overhead, of course, but could inherently reduce overhead down the road, as long as the algorithm

Re: orbs.org accuses qmail of mailbomb relaying!

2000-07-22 Thread Michael T. Babcock
Considering the number of useful patches that aren't part of the qmail distribution that the average qmail admin seems to be using, I disagree. Russ Allbery wrote: If you really want to have separate queues and streaming of mail through a single connection per peer rather than qmail's

Re: orbs.org accuses qmail of mailbomb relaying!

2000-07-24 Thread Michael T. Babcock
for Qmail, I don't really care. Example: I use vpopmail to replace the usual pop authentication, for instance. Do I think it should be part of the Qmail distribution? No, I think it works better on its own. Russ Allbery wrote: Michael T Babcock [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Considering

Re: orbs.org accuses qmail of mailbomb relaying!

2000-07-24 Thread Michael T. Babcock
Joe Kelsey wrote: If a major point of Qmail's existence is to provide reliable E-mail delivery, then this _must_ include cooperating with other MTAs (without violating standards) at least enough to keep from crashing / giving them headaches so that we don't 'encourage' them to lose

Re: orbs.org accuses qmail of mailbomb relaying!

2000-07-24 Thread Michael T. Babcock
I must have mistakenly added the message to the list. As my own comment stated, I didn't mean to subject the list to our discussion. I wrote: That said, I'm leaving this off the list because I don't like noise, so I'm not going to subject others to it. Joe Kelsey wrote: You don't bother

[Fwd: Attitude]

2000-07-24 Thread Michael T. Babcock
Score: Apology for indirection: 1 Asanine comments: 1 Thanks everyone. I think this discussion has been very helpful to the Qmail cause ... really. Adam McKenna wrote: On Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 12:37:55AM -0500, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: Probably our responses are by now somewhat cryptic,

Re: Want to know your potential multiple recipient savings?

2000-07-24 Thread Michael T. Babcock
This is what I've asked for too -- and been given "do it yourself". Best of luck. Frank Tegtmeyer wrote: In his measurements that indicated that qmail used less bandwidth in real-life situations than sendmail, Dan counted the DNS traffic due to sendmail. And I have never seen numbers,

Re: Solaris / DoS / Broken bare LF mailers / thousands of qmail-smtpdqmail-queue procs

2000-07-24 Thread Michael T. Babcock
The 'problem' as it relates to RFCs, not to Qmail's implementation, is probably the original question. Dave Sill wrote: "James Blondin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The question I have is, and excuse my ignorance if it's something silly: why not just accept the bare linefeeds? From what I can

Re: void main (no, not a long one)

2000-07-24 Thread Michael T. Babcock
I don't see how "If there is ever a compiler dumb enough to break void main(), I will happily advise everyone to use a different compiler" engenders any trust in someone's ability to write C code. Qmail is well written, sure. But void main() is and always has been wrong on 99% of platforms and

Re: orbs.org accuses qmail of mailbomb relaying!

2000-07-24 Thread Michael T. Babcock
Russell Nelson wrote: Are these records in relays.orbs.org? How can you say that ORBS doesn't block them, then? Oh, I see, ORBS made up their own semantics for the DNS zone entries. Semantics which nobody else uses. That's very nice, but what about the people blocking using

Re: MailDir

2000-07-24 Thread Michael T. Babcock
Philipp Steinkrüger wrote: Here is definitely an error - if you use vpopmail you cannot use the checkpassword provided by DJB. I found this in the qmail-FAQ, Question 5.3: how do i set up qmail-pop3d. So there is a problem with my startup script ? Just a poor assumption -- qmail-pop3d

Re: orbs.org accuses qmail of mailbomb relaying!

2000-07-24 Thread Michael T. Babcock
You are free to tell me where I was supposed to agree to a license agreement before downloading it and/or where the LICENSE file is and/or where the license is embedded in C source files ... "Nathan J. Mehl" wrote: In the immortal words of Michael T. Babcock ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

Re: void main (no, not a long one)

2000-07-24 Thread Michael T. Babcock
Dan's comment was that 'void main()' was done because 'int main()' caused compiler warnings. If so, int main() should now prevail because void main() causes the warnings. Dave Sill wrote: I don't see how "If there is ever a compiler dumb enough to break void main(), I will happily advise

Re: void main (no, not a long one)

2000-07-24 Thread Michael T. Babcock
Well said, considering how often DJB waxes eloquent about non-standards compliant and/or broken software. Paul Jarc wrote: Dave Sill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Theoretically, "void main" is wrong. In practice, it works just fine. Personally, I could not care less. Theoretically, BIND's

Re: void main (no, not a long one)

2000-07-24 Thread Michael T. Babcock
I was hoping for an admission of guilt rather than a fight. Petr Novotny wrote: However, what do you expect, Michael? qmail-1.04 which would only "fix" void main()?

Re: orbs.org accuses qmail of mailbomb relaying!

2000-07-24 Thread Michael T. Babcock
I understand Copyright law as much as many long time free / open source software advocates do. That said, I have still seen nothing about the licensing of his software besides that he doesn't care about anything that isn't implicitly illegal. That said, in a case-law country, I can do pretty

Re: licensing

2000-07-24 Thread Michael T. Babcock
The question is: does DJB prefer that one modify (should they wish to) 55% of the source code (say) and make this mod available as a patch, or simply rename it to "rmail" (or whatever) and mention that it is derived from Qmail, available at ... blah ... Vince Vielhaber wrote: I understand

QMTP MX encoding

2000-07-24 Thread Michael T. Babcock
DJB mentions on his 'future of qmail' page that a way to encode that a host supports QMTP into its MX data is in the works. What method for doing so is proposed?

Re: QMTP MX encoding

2000-07-24 Thread Michael T. Babcock
will be _magic.s.* I can receive mail by SMTP _magic.q.* I can receive mail by QMTP _magic.qs.* I can receive mail by QMTP or SMTP with the possibility of future extensions such as _magic.abcdqrsz.* -X- James Raftery wrote: On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 05:32:17PM -0400, Michael T. Babcock wrote

QMTP via EHLO type command

2000-07-24 Thread Michael T. Babcock
I was wondering if it wouldn't be smart to use an extension to EHLO as a way to detect QMTP availability on an MX. I decided to check and 'QMTP' 'EHLO' only appear together 4 times. Chuck Foster seems to be the first to have asked whether it wouldn't be smart to add a "250 QMTP" (later

Re: QMTP MX encoding

2000-07-25 Thread Michael T. Babcock
more comatibility and standards potential than the MX magic, especially when DJB mentionned not using the MX magic preference values. Russell Nelson wrote: Michael T. Babcock writes: (stuff) I think that's a silly idea. Better to pick a "magic" MX preference,

Re: orbs.org accuses qmail of mailbomb relaying!

2000-07-25 Thread Michael T. Babcock
-x- A package is the concatenation of three strings: first, an encoded 8-bit mail message; second, an encoded envelope sender address; third, an encoded series of encoded envelope recipient addresses. -x- The encoded envelope sender address isn't expanded on beyond the examples

Re: QMTP via EHLO type command

2000-07-25 Thread Michael T. Babcock
To make this a little more QMTP compatible, and to agree with some of Peter Norton's comments from late 1998, the sending MTA could also immediately 'transfer' the request to the QMTP by opening a new connection on the QMTP port when it 'saw' the QMTP response from the foreign SMTP MTA. It would

rblsmtpd and not bouncing

2000-07-25 Thread Michael T. Babcock
I would like to offer an option similar to pobox.com's [spam: 84%] "Subject:" munging for incoming messages from RBL or RSS listed sites. Instead of actually bouncing the message as RBLSMTPD does, allow the message but add [spam - rbl] or [spam - rss] or the like to the Subject: field of the

Re: ezmlm

2000-07-25 Thread Michael T. Babcock
Has anyone made an auto-responder to work with ezmlm (or others??) that would reply to messages containing such "remove" messages to the list and ask the sender if they wished to unsubscribe (with the proper instructions)?? Guy Rosinbaum wrote: REMOVEremove

Re: orbs.org accuses qmail of mailbomb relaying!

2000-07-25 Thread Michael T. Babcock
Replies are in private ... anyone actually interested may ask for ensuing discussion :-). Markus Stumpf wrote: This may get somewhat off topic ...

Re: Open letter

2000-07-31 Thread Michael T. Babcock
Agreed: PGP (et. al.) is definately the answer, not server-to-server encryption. However, properly authenticated DNS (or an evolution thereof) and resulting authenticated (S/Q)MTP sessions would be a leap forward as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem with your solution is that server

Re: Open letter

2000-07-31 Thread Michael T. Babcock
And unfortunately, zero-effort security is, with current technology, an oxymoron. Swipe-card key systems that do the authentication would be low-effort. Retina scanning cameras built into your monitor to do authentication would be low effort as well. Until then, people have to decide if its

Re: [offtopic?] RE: Encryption (was: Open letter)

2000-07-31 Thread Michael T. Babcock
Potentially long, off-topic message: (follow-ups and/or flames probably best kept private :) "Ihnen, David" wrote: Would you consider PGP more than a low-effort? It would be zero effort if we weren't concerned about the privacy of our own secret keys, thus keeping them encrypted behind

Re: [offtopic?] RE: Encryption (was: Open letter)

2000-08-01 Thread Michael T. Babcock
True -- but that would require the countries the software manufacturers do business in to relax their export regs. and allow for open encryption hooks in their tools. Dave Sill wrote: It's not even this complicated with 6.5. You click on the window whose text you want to encrypt, click on

Re: tai64n -- why?

2000-08-01 Thread Michael T. Babcock
Are you asking more for something like: 2000/07/31 06:02:10.42 (GMT+05) This has always been the date format I've prefered ... its sortable (as the year comes first -- although its quite narrow-minded of me to not allow for 5 digit dates), its human-readable, and quite parsable. The decimal

Re: RE: Blocking Spam, badmailfrom not working

2000-08-01 Thread Michael T. Babcock
That's more of what the RBL is for -- if you want to take that step. The RBL is supposed to be a good list of sites that are producing spam, not that are necessarily open relays at all. "Hubbard, David" wrote: Thanks for responding Chris. I am currently using the MAPS relays.mail-abuse.org

Re: MUA HTML support (was: question)

2000-08-01 Thread Michael T. Babcock
Actually, no. The problem is that his E-mail client (Outlook Express) has the option of sending BOTH plain and html versions of the message and is sending them encoded as seperate MIME segments. Netscape Messenger also supports this, but IMHO, its an incorrect reading of how MIME should be

Re: why qmail is more secure, was: Mailing list performance

2000-08-02 Thread Michael T. Babcock
The multiple UIDs provide a few failsafes, if nothing else, whereby one broken / buggy / replaced binary can't do damage to files it doesn't own. DJB has comments about this in the readmes, if I'm not mistaken. - Original Message - From: "Ronny Haryanto" [EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: updated load balancing qmail-qmqpc.c mods

2000-08-02 Thread Michael T. Babcock
Re-read my point: its unnecessary. I didn't say it wouldn't work. I said the CPU use of doing it this way was unnecessary over a simpler round-robin approach (After picking an initial random server). Note: I think using an array of pointers to server addresses would allow you to do your

Re: updated load balancing qmail-qmqpc.c mods

2000-08-02 Thread Michael T. Babcock
My pseudo code was supposed to infer that one would re-select (randomly, if you wish) a server at a certain % of the time, based on how many times it had been polled and turned out to be down. Simply replace my first (increment, go to #2) with (go to #1). - Original Message - From:

Maildir archiving

2000-08-03 Thread Michael T. Babcock
, find messages older than 3 months and 1) (maybe) move to different folder with (3 month ago's) date attached 2) compress messages I prefer something with the moving of the files as listing the contents of the folder becomes much faster. -- Michael T. Babcock (PGP: 0xBE6C1895) http

Re: Anti Virus

2000-08-04 Thread Michael T. Babcock
I beg you to cite the place where this list abides by these "Age-old standards". I've cited some standards about mailing lists to people before -- but usually along the lines of "don't quote 100 lines and give only 1 of your own" or "don't use 10 line signatures". I don't complain about whether

Re: Anti Virus

2000-08-04 Thread Michael T. Babcock
ombination of Stoned or Monkey with a few other oldies. These are all caught by modern anti virus software and thus it _should_ be installed on machines. McAfee VirusScan for workstations is only $15 (cost). I don't classify that as snake-oil -- Michael T. Babcock CTO, FibreSpeed

Re: legit mail being blocked because of relay methods

2000-08-10 Thread Michael T. Babcock
What you're describing, if it is indeed happening, sounds more like an unintentional result of open relays and strange mailing list server logic. To justify my opinion; how could this reduce Internet traffic unless the mailing list server chose E-mails _purposely_ (not just "20 or so") for a

Re: filters

2000-08-14 Thread Michael T. Babcock
A slightly different version of the question: how would one go about filtering for Mailing List (etc.) and adding [qmail] to the subject line on one's own mail? - Original Message - From: "Raul Beltran" [EMAIL PROTECTED] hi, is there a possibility to automatically concatenate a string

Re: rblsmtpd and relays.mail-abuse.org

2000-08-14 Thread Michael T. Babcock
I'm using it too -- but everything seemed fine with the patch so ... - Original Message - From: "Jon Rust" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Odd that this issue has been so quiet. Are there really so few people using rblsmtpd?

Re: legit mail being blocked because of relay methods

2000-08-14 Thread Michael T. Babcock
dream ;-) - Original Message - From: "Eric Long" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 8/10/00 2:31 PM, Michael T. Babcock at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What you're describing, if it is indeed happening, sounds more like an unintentional result of open relays and strange mailing list se

Re: rblsmtpd and relays.mail-abuse.org

2000-08-14 Thread Michael T. Babcock
Actually, no. The output from one is automatically sent to the input of the next as they execute each other. The "\"'s are to allow the commands to be on multiple lines. - Original Message - * Robert Sander ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [11 Aug 2000 04:07]: It seems to me that rblsmtpd can

Re: Someone have a bad experience with qmail once.

2000-08-14 Thread Michael T. Babcock
And those on each side still disagree with each other. The mailing list archives are, of course, full of this discussion and should be consulted so that you can draw your own conclusions. Unless you disagree with ORBS, stating your opinions here is probably hazardous. - Original Message

Re: MYSQL y QMAIL

2000-08-16 Thread Michael T. Babcock
The most-frequently used way to do this is with LDAP or vpopmail (both well-used, "non-standard" qmail modifications). - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello friend... I am from Peru I need change of Sendmail to Qmail agent MTA, but I would like use MYSQL as database of

Re: Queue Time

2000-08-17 Thread Michael T. Babcock
The current algorithm is probably fine for most users, but what about configuring the initial frequency? I can see some people being interested in trying again in 5 or 30 seconds, and others wanting to wait a few hours. - Original Message - From: "David Dyer-Bennet" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Proper secondary MX configuration

2000-08-17 Thread Michael T. Babcock
What is the correct way to configure a secondary MX machine (qmail using qmqp) so that the messages are sent with the standard exponential backoff until '24 hours', and then every day for two weeks? I've been asked to secondary a machine that is down sometimes for extended periods of time (they

Re: Queue Time

2000-08-17 Thread Michael T. Babcock
- Original Message - From: "David Dyer-Bennet" [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes on 17 August 2000 at 11:32:00 -0700 I can't see much harm in being able to define the queuelifetime on an individual submission - perhaps limited to between 0 and some

Re: Proper secondary MX configuration

2000-08-17 Thread Michael T. Babcock
- Original Message - From: "David Dyer-Bennet" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Michael T. Babcock [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes on 17 August 2000 at 13:30:37 -0400 What is the correct way to configure a secondary MX machine (qmail using qmqp) so that the messages are sent with th

Re: Queue Time

2000-08-17 Thread Michael T. Babcock
- Original Message - From: "Charles Cazabon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] If I send an email to mother saying "I'll be home for lunch" I'd like to tell my MTA to drop/bounce the mail after that event has occurred. One frequently-proposed (and possibly implemented) solution for such

Re: rblsmtpd emergency

2000-08-17 Thread Michael T. Babcock
- Original Message - From: "Mate Wierdl" [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, Aug 16, 2000 at 09:55:53AM -0500, Ben Beuchler wrote: On Wed, Aug 16, 2000 at 07:08:28AM -0500, Mate Wierdl wrote: That would not allow for the rapid changes necessary in a blackhole list. Imagine you are an

Re: Queue Time

2000-08-18 Thread Michael T. Babcock
I'm not Dan, but this is slightly less mathematical than it sounds. The main point (if I understand DJB here) is: Its only an hour late? Another 10 minutes will hurt about "this much". Its a day late? Another hour will probably also hurt about "this much". Its a week late? Another (day?)

Re: rblsmtpd emergency

2000-08-18 Thread Michael T. Babcock
). That was the jist of my original coment. - Original Message - From: "Mate Wierdl" [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, Aug 17, 2000 at 06:34:21PM -0400, Michael T. Babcock wrote: The best approach to this is to have rblsmtpd use A records, as it should have from the beginning (t

Re: SMTP port 25

2000-08-21 Thread Michael T. Babcock
- Original Message - From: "Brett Randall" [EMAIL PROTECTED] simply change an IP address on our port forwarding machine and its done - no external DNS and TTL hell to live through... You COULD alternately try ipmasqadm with ipchains but I haven't had any luck with port forwarding

Re: patching qmail with multiple patches

2000-08-21 Thread Michael T. Babcock
Also double-check with the appropriate patch author (especially if its a larger patch, like LDAP) to see which configurations he/she has tested it with. - Original Message - From: "Dave Sill" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would: 1) Select only patches that I have a proven or mandated need for.

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