Re: [Qt-creator] Lost in 4.2

I didn't get into computers because I was a "people person". But I still don't want to be rude. Well that's a large component of my surprise. The Qt UI stuff is usually better than I imagine. > Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 at 4:26 PM > From: "Mike Jackson" > To:

Re: [Qt-creator] Lost in 4.2

Funny, I had a really long drawn out response but it really boils down to this: We all want QtCreator to be best in class. We are all passionate about QtCreator and want to see it succeed. That is all. Some of us just may not possess the "socially acceptable phrasing" you write about. --

Re: [Qt-creator] Lost in 4.2

Thank you Andre, for putting that much more tactfully. My frustration is not due to anyone on this list, but a more general frustration with modern UIs that lack intuitiveness. It seems that it's assumed tht people will click around and explore the UI, however I claim this is a product of bad

Re: [Qt-creator] Lost in 4.2

On Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 05:33:08PM +0100, Jason H wrote: > > Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 at 5:02 PM > > From: "Andre Poenitz" > > To: "Mike Jackson" , "Jason H" > > Cc: qt-creator > > Subject: Re:

Re: [Qt-creator] Lost in 4.2

Jason, I do not work for the Qt Company, nor I do QtC programming. So my position is my own. We might differ in opinions on who drives which changes & why. But I'm sure we can agree on the truth that we can cooperate in several ways to move QtC stuff as we think it should be, some of them are:

Re: [Qt-creator] Lost in 4.2

I reject your position entirely. 1. We do not need to conceed change for the sake of change. Change should only happen when there is an improvement.  2. Metro has flopped. Even MS can't move the market. It's wrong to assume that they dictate UI, or UX culture. Culture is a societial construct.

Re: [Qt-creator] Lost in 4.2

I agree that there may be more than one way to do things right. This I don't have a problem with. My problem, just so we are clear, are UX/UI designers who come up with something "new" but do not base the new design on any type of user research, studies or actual user feedback that tells them

Re: [Qt-creator] Lost in 4.2

Mike, It's romatic to look at good old times, and I understand your frustation, but things are just that way now. You need the market force of Apple, Google or Microsoft to set a trend (just like skeu-then-flat, paper and metro). Better to adapt, there are more than one way to do things right,

Re: [Qt-creator] Lost in 4.2

> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 at 4:40 PM > From: "Tobias Hunger" > To: "qt-creator@qt-project.org" > Subject: Re: [Qt-creator] Lost in 4.2 > > On Thu, 2016-12-01 at 16:32 +0100, Jason H wrote: > > What about the attached UI says that you can

Re: [Qt-creator] Lost in 4.2

Oops, he did. My email client showed it to me in my inbox and my Creator folder. Weird. Anyway, I can make some statements about how ridiculous the glossiness was in the mid 2000s. It was really getting out of hand. And there were information density overload, particularly on the PC UI side.

Re: [Qt-creator] Lost in 4.2

Did you mean to reply to all? Because I completely agree and think you should share that. > Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 at 12:21 PM > From: "Mike Jackson" > To: "Ariel Molina" , qt-creator , > "Jason H" >

Re: [Qt-creator] Lost in 4.2

> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 at 5:02 PM > From: "Andre Poenitz" > To: "Mike Jackson" , "Jason H" > Cc: qt-creator > Subject: Re: [Qt-creator] Lost in 4.2 > > > Mike Jackson >

Re: [Qt-creator] Adjusting colors in one of the Themes

Hi, Short version: For a higher contrast, you can set "PreferredStyles=Windows" in the "[General]" section of your *.creatortheme file. Long version: You can influence palette colors in the *.creatortheme files like this: ... [Colors] PaletteButton= ... "PaletteButton" sets the

Re: [Qt-creator] Lost in 4.2

Mike, Simple is good, but getting things simple in the right way is a very hard thing to do. As an UI expert (postgrad level and working on UI every day) I understand your rants, but I also understand the UI team. Thing is that what's "easy" is hard to define, it tends to come and go as fashion

Re: [Qt-creator] Lost in 4.2

Rule 1: "new" way of doing user interfaces dictates that in no way should the UI widgets indicate that they can be clicked, moved or interacted with. It is entirely up to the user to simply click all over the interface until some hidden menu shows up or something happens. Rule 2: Ensure

Re: [Qt-creator] Lost in 4.2

On Thu, 2016-12-01 at 16:32 +0100, Jason H wrote: > What about the attached UI says that you can right click on  Build & Run? > > It just looks like bold text. You can right-click for a context menu *everywhere* in that sidebar. Best Regards, Tobias -- Tobias Hunger, Senior Software Engineer 

Re: [Qt-creator] Lost in 4.2

On Thu, 2016-12-01 at 16:29 +0100, Jason H wrote: > The rest of these are less critical, but could cause problems: > 2. When I did the import the shadow build directory was: > /Users/jhihn/Projects/build-prep-iphonesimulator_clang_Qt_5_6_2_for_ios-Debug, > > however it was really

Re: [Qt-creator] Lost in 4.2

> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 at 10:11 AM > From: "Jason H" > To: qt-creator > Subject: [Qt-creator] Lost in 4.2 > > I'm completely lost on 4.2 project management. > > I don't see where I can add a kit anywhere? > > I imported a build from 4.1,

Re: [Qt-creator] Lost in 4.2

Hello, The new Build & Run sidebar options are described here: http://doc-snapshots.qt.io/qtcreator-4.2/creator-configuring-projects.html And adding kits is explained here: http://doc-snapshots.qt.io/qtcreator-4.2/creator-targets.html Hope this helps, Leena Leena Miettinen Documentation

Re: [Qt-creator] Lost in 4.2

On the left theres a list of all kits suitable for the project. You can activate a kit for the project by left-clicking on it, or right-clicking and selecting "Enable Kit " . Andre' ___ Qt-creator mailing list Qt-creator@qt-project.org

[Qt-creator] Lost in 4.2

I'm completely lost on 4.2 project management. I don't see where I can add a kit anywhere? I imported a build from 4.1, but I only got ios... I'm not sure how I am to use this, or how to subsequently import my desktop and android builds? ___